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Hi, when updating infobox stats you should update the |club-update= or |pcupdate= parameter for club stats, or the |nationalteam-update= or |ntupdate= parameter for international stats, by adding five tildes (~~~~~), which generates the specific time the update was made. Thanks, Mattythewhite (talk) 17:42, 26 December 2017 (UTC)

There's no need to fake hours and minutes in timestamp. Just add day-month-year or use ~~~~~. SLBedit (talk) 00:45, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

Can you please keep this in mind. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:02, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

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Taichung TRA station

The Taichung TRA station article most certainly does exist. Please revert your edit to the Taichung article. Phlar (talk) 18:43, 2 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. Phlar (talk) 05:49, 3 February 2018 (UTC)

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italy shorts

italian national football team has white shorts. don't look at footyheadlines', todosobrecamisetas' pictures, look at the photos, please.--Luca•M 08:20, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

On that match (and also one against Sweden), they played as away team with the home team used dark shorts. As of 2nd leg vs Sweden, they just released the kit a few days earlier and probably did not have an alternate. But fine I will follow you for now. But when it became clear that THE OFFICIAL RELEASE combinations are the right one, I will change them back. Flix11 14:21, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

the shorts you have used in the page are wrong: the home shorts have blue navy details not light blue details, as you can see in the photos I linkled before. what about the shorts used by buffon against Macedonia? if the blue shorts were the right ones he would used them. footyheadlines isn't always right: look at the "new" milan logo, look at the as roma main sponsor...--Luca•M 14:55, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

the first ones are red so italy will have red shorts? it doesn't prove anything. untill it will be an official announcement from fifa, uefa, figc and so on we have just the fact that italy has not ever used the blue shorts but only white shorts. the under 19 female team has also a squad photo with white shorts, has played with white shorts.--Luca•M 15:20, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

ok. if you want (and if you have time and sources) i have a job for you: in the italian wiki there is a page about FC Monaco's colors and symbols, but there aren't a lot of kits and just only the modern ones are nice. could you draw them? if you want i can help you with some kits.--Luca•M 15:35, 8 March 2018 (UTC)

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April 2018

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to Kyle Walker. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. Mattythewhite (talk) 17:26, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Bolding/national ownership/blind reverts

Hello. As I noted in the edit summary, last time there was a discussion on bolding winners, there was a clear majority of editors against doing so (this applies to both parliamentary and presidential elections – see Azerbaijani presidential election, 2018, Armenian presidential election, 2013, Mongolian presidential election, 2017 etc). I don't generally edit American articles, but what happens there isn't an excuse to ignore the consensus that appears to have been arrived at at WP:E&R. You're welcome to start another discussion there if you disagree.

Regarding your comments about "your country", firstly I don't really edit British election articles either, and secondly Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia; anyone can edit an article on any country, and no one editor or group of editors own a country's articles. I almost exclusively edit articles on international elections (you're welcome to review my editing history), so I don't really appreciate this reference.

Lastly, your reverts of my edits appear to have been blind reverts – i.e. you simply hit undo without actually looking at the substance of the edits (and then had to redo part of them). This is really poor practice, so please avoid doing this in the future. Cheers, Number 57 13:53, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

May 2018

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• the easiest way is just to move US invasion of Grenada, your copy pastes were reverted for a reason. Need help just ask.PRehse (talk) 18:34, 1 May 2018 (UTC)

Template:2017–18 Eredivisie table

If on a Saterday you would notice a traffic sign saying "No Parking Mon-Fri", would you remove it too because it doesn't apply at that specific time? – Sb008 (talk) 06:50, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Hardly nonsense, the KNVB relegations dictate these season rules to apply at all time. Just cause the situation can't occur any more in this season, isn't a reason to delete them. Season rules is general information independent from whether they can occur at a specific time.--Sb008 (talk) 06:57, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Which edit are you talking about? "Season in progress"? The context is that there will be no changes to the table unless something extraordinary happened (point deduction/relegation because of match fixing, etc.). The playoff matches will not change neither the "play" (which max is 34) nor "W/D/L" and "GF-GA-GD". Therefore I concluded so. – Flix11 (talk) 07:04, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Indeed, the table will no longer change. But the rules will not change either. "Rules for classification" is general information, it indicates what applies at each stage/time. Just like the traffic sign indicates what applies at each time. Like you don't remove the traffic sign cause at a specific time it doesn't apply, you don't remove part of the claasification rules cause they don't apply at a specific time/stage. Those rules are general.

Furthermore, the info below "Discipline" on the 2017–18 Eredivisie page is incorrect. I understand you like an English source, but Soccerway is not a very reliable source. Especially for "assists" they are even more off. And if you want to use Soccerway,it's better to use www.soccerway instead of int.soccerway. The www URL has IP origin dectection and redirects to the pages in your language. So, assuming you from a country where English is spoken, you will be redirected to the int URL anyway. However people from countries with different languages will be redirected to the pages of their language. If someone is from a country with a language for which no pages exists, they will be redirected to the int URL as well, which is the default (Similar like Google does).--Sb008 (talk) 08:04, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

I see. Is this really about the "Season in progress"?. Because the Template:2016–17 Eredivisie table and Template:2015–16 Eredivisie table also do not have the "Season in progress". I did not erase the "Rules for classification". The cards stats are done. Thanks for the notice. About the assists I already cross-checked it with the Eredivisie website listed as source so it should be correct. I see that the difference between int. and local version is just the language. How can it define which is right and which is wrong? Just checked those (my local version is id.soccerway) and there is no difference. – Flix11 (talk) 08:12, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

The most reliable source for stats is [1]. My mistake about the "Rules for classification", I looked wrong, I thought you removed all from "Season in progress" to just before "End of Season". But you only removed the string "Season in progress". However that string should be there, it's to indicate the rules slightly differ while the season is in progress and at the end of the season. You must be located in Indonesia since you get id.soccerway. The actual information is of course the same for each language. The interface (like menu's) however are changed in the language for the country. Maybe your English is good, but for someone who doesn't speak English that well, an interface in their language makes it easier.--Sb008 (talk) 08:55, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Read Template talk:2017–18 Eredivisie table--Sb008 (talk) 10:06, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

First, I do not understand what you wrote because it is very long. Second, it has never implemented before, neither in other league tables nor in Eredivisie. The cup winners do not need an X thing because their win is not related to the league and its table, only related to European qualification. It is enough with footnotes like [a] or [b] next to "qualification to ...". I do not understand that you say C-R-O-Q or not at all but you make X there. We no longer need "The winner of the 2017–18 KNVB Cup will qualify for the Europa League third qualifying round , if these winners qualify for the 2018–19 UEFA Champions League that spot will go to the third placed team." because now we know the KNVB Cup winners did not qualify for the UCL. And with that, AZ qualified for the 2nd QR. If you want to explain the qualification in case so, just hope next season will go your way. – Flix11 (talk) 15:13, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

First, being Cup Winner, like Champion is a status. A status which gives a team the right to play EL 3Q round (in this season). For the Champions the starus C is available. For the Cup Winners no letter is available so it has to be defined using X. The Cup may not be earned based on the league ranking, but by a separate tournament, however the Cup and the league are very much related. Because who ever wins the Cup affects the status giving to other rankings in the league. The footnote explains the rules for CL3Q. The rules have not changed because Feyenoord won the cup. The rules are still the same, only a specific part will not come into effect because Feyenoord did not qualify for the CL. Feyenoord winning the Cup changes the status of Feyenoord and not the rules. The rules remain the same. Second, it never been done before is no argument. For centuries mankind thought the earth was flat. Then wiser people discovered the earth was round and not flat. There're millions of other examples like that. If we always would stick to an idea/concept because it's always be thought/done like that, we would still be in the stone age. That doesn't mean the new idea/concept is correct by definition. But I offer reasoned arguments why it is. You offer nothing, you don't understand and it was never implemented before. You don't have a single argument why what you say is correct. In that perspective it's pretty arrogant to say "hope next season will go your way". It's not about "who's way it goes" but about what is correct and what isn't. Whole season you did nothing to update the page. End of season all of a sudden you think you can change things as you like without offering any valid reason. There is a discussion page where you can motivate your opinion. If opinions differ, it can be discussed to reach a consensus. But giving no motivation, and just changing, isn't very constructive. So if you want it your way, present your case, as I did, and it can be discussed. Similar, stop changing the format of the top scorers and assists table until you present valid reasons why it should be different.--Sb008 (talk) 17:31, 8 May 2018 (UTC)

Past tense, present tense

Hi, I would like to talk about your most recent edit in Template:2017–18 Premier League table. I use past tense there because League Cup concluded. FA Cup is yet to finish, but its result was clear enough to make sure that its berth would be passed to the league. It is not related to the fact that Premiership is still going. I think past tense is correct there :) Centaur271188 (talk) 06:25, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Well okay then. No problem. It is not really matter. Thanks for your help on the Eredivisie table. – Flix11 (talk) 13:00, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Coupe de France - refimprove

Hi,

You added a refimprove template to 2017–18 Coupe de France. Could you give me a steer as to where you think additional citations are needed? Each match is cited in a report and there are 33 general citations used/reused in the article. Cheers Gricehead (talk) 07:57, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

There are definitely 195 matches. Thus:

Round	Teams	Matches	Cumulative
7th	176	88	88
8th	88	44	132
9th	64	32	164
R32	32	16	180
R16	16	8	188
QF	8	4	192
SF	4	2	194
Final	2	1	195

Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 13:27, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Okay I miscalculated LOL. Will you update that on 2016–17 Coupe de France and maybe the seasons prior? Thanks a lot. – Flix11 (talk) 13:32, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

 Done for 2016–17 Coupe de France (note: 194 matches due to a bye in the 7th round) and 2015–16 Coupe de France. Earlier than that needs more research as some of the information is missing from the articles. Cheers, Gricehead (talk) 14:15, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

Thank you for your service. Cheers, Flix11 (talk) 14:52, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

2018-19 Premier League

Hi there, I'm TB Chigz. I'm here to talk about the edit you found disruptive on the 2018-19 Premier League page. Cause the only disruptive edit I made was immediately reverted when I found out the truth about it. Otherwise, all of my edits have been constructive since then. Point it out for me then we'll start from there. Thank you.

TB Chigz (talk) 10:19, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that one. I am sorry, I think I made a mistake there. I will erase my comment from your talk page. – Flix11 (talk) 10:27, 10 May 2018 (UTC)

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infobox wp:overlink

Hi, I have just seen your edits in Serie A infobox. I would like to improve it by removing redundant links, many links refer to the same team seems unnecessary. Please support this change :) Centaur271188 (talk) 08:07, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Premier League Playmaker of the Season

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June 2018

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WikiProject Football - continuing debate

Hi, I have just seen it while randomly checking WikiProject Football: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Need assistance with Template: 2017–18 Eredivisie table (continued). It is weird that Sb008 pinged me twice in that page and I received none notifications. Have you got any alerts from him (he also summoned you twice)? Right now, his argument is "since there is no consensus (I think he wants me to show him a formal and written one) on editing tables, then I can edit them in anyway as I see fit". I think I will talk to him about WP:DONTFIXIT. I would also appreciate if you can join this discussion again. Thanks :) Centaur271188 (talk) 17:42, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

@Centaur271188: No, I do not. But this might explain why you received that. – Flix11 (talk) 18:19, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Sorry if my expression confused you, I would like to clarify that I received nothing. :) Centaur271188 (talk) 18:35, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Well might be a glitch. But yes I will rejoin the discussion. Thanks for reminding me :D – Flix11 (talk) 19:39, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Kit articles

Thanks for your advice! I have a question. Blow manufacturer history table based on spanish article. But Original English aritle had another information

Can you check out them?

• English article

Adidas (from 1982 until 1984), Le Coq Sportif (from 1984 until 1992) and Adidas once again (since 1992).

• Spanish article

Manufacturer	Period	Notes
None	1920–1935
Deportes Cóndor	1935–1966
Umbro	1966
Deportes Cóndor	1967–1981
Adidas	1981–1983
Le Coq Sportif	1983–1991
Adidas	1991–present

Footwiks (talk)

It is 1991 all the way. – Flix11 (talk) 09:16, 6 June 2018 (UTC)

Kit history is better article title

After searching in google, I can't find term Kits History. Most article used term Kit History. Please don't move. Footwiks (talk)

@Footwiks: wikt:kits – Flix11 (talk) 06:51, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Firstly, Please stay article title, English native speakers will judge. Footwiks (talk)

@Footwiks: [www.historicalkits.co.uk Historical Football Kits], [www.kitclassics.co.uk] (CLASSIC KITS). Both made by British. As far as I know, they would not even let your pages exist (case of Bradford City FC KITS history). "Most article used term Kit History", you said. Where? Tell me @Footwiks: – Flix11 (talk) 07:07, 8 June 2018 (UTC)

Italian flag

Hi, I saw your edit on 2006 FIFA World Cup article, and I have a question. I know that in 2002 the Italian government firstly announced the exact colors of the Italian flag, but are we sure that "your" flag is the correct one? I saw this file, which indicates the exact "Pantone" colors that you listed in the edit summary, but the flag is quite different. -- Nick.mon (talk) 17:13, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Nick.mon: Hi. It has been a while since the flag was accepted as it is. If you want to talk about it, feel free to discuss that first in the Flag of Italy talk page. Thanks for the notice. – Flix11 (talk) 17:23, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, excuse me if I asked this to you, but I'm not a great expert in flags and I noticed this fact some months ago, so I hoped that you could tell me more about that. Anyway thanks for your help :) -- Nick.mon (talk) 17:29, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

@Nick.mon: And neither am I :) What if you bring this to someone with more knowledge on flags, for instance User:Illegitimate Barrister to help. – Flix11 (talk) 19:16, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Celso Borges

You added caps for Borges, but subtracted 3 international goals, without providing a source. Also, you called it an update, which it can hardly be, as he can't score "negative goals", or something of the like.Quanstizium (talk) 20:31, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

I just update it according to Soccerway profile. Now has fixed. Thanks for the notice. – Flix11 (talk) 20:38, 14 June 2018 (UTC)

Dmitri Cheryshev

Hi there from Portugal,

in the infobox, please, only city and country. Region of birth appears in storyline. Thanks, happy editing --Quite A Character (talk) 00:27, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Andrés Guardado

The same user here,

please do not revert me anymore in this player regarding his international caps. If you see his NFT.com page, you will see he has THREE UNOFFICIAL matches, not recognised by FIFA.

Thanks --Quite A Character (talk) 18:08, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

@Quite A Character: The caps are included even if not recognized by FIFA, for example in Romelu Lukaku and Kevin De Bruyne. This source ([2]) is the official FIFA stats of all players in the 2018 FWC. The caps and goals are updated usually at 21:30 UTC. – Flix11 (talk) 18:11, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Seems it's TWO unofficial caps and not three (per the RSSSF source i just added to the chart) and not THREE. Please i don't think we add them, but i will ask at WP:FOOTY just to be sure. --Quite A Character (talk) 18:21, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

@Quite A Character: If not, include them all and give notes like in those Belgians pages. I suggest to check out the FIFAdata PDF first. The update timestamp is on the page footer. – Flix11 (talk) 18:24, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

SOCCERWAY is not more important than NFT or RSSSF. The match against Panama was even interrupted (!), and Guadeloupe is not recognised by FIFA. I have reinstated the 147, if we engage in an edit war it will only be bad for both of us.

P.S. Don't remove again the NFT source i added for his int'l goals, like you did in your last edit. Thank you. --Quite A Character (talk) 20:29, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

See? There are already several opinions that agree to remove the unofficial caps here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Football#Andr%C3%A9s_Guardado). Please participate, if you want. --Quite A Character (talk) 20:53, 23 June 2018 (UTC)

Found this (please see here http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/2017/09/01/en-2007-un-mexico-vs-panama-se-suspendio-por-lluvia), in the fifth paragraph one can read "A pesar de disputarse un tiempo completo, este encuentro no es considerado como de “Selección A” por la FIFA, por lo que no se encuentra registro estadístico en su página oficial.", which means "In spite of one full half being played this is not considered an A-teams one by FIFA, and thus is not statistically recorded in its official page"; however, after talking with User:Mattythewhite, he made a good point and i reinserted the match against Guadeloupe. But there is no sense in inserting this one against Panama.

Regards --Quite A Character (talk) 21:17, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Updating infoboxes

Please use five tidles (~~~~~) for where the date and timestamp should go when updating player infoboxes, thank you. Govvy (talk) 21:13, 3 July 2018 (UTC)

Updates

Hey, thanks for all the updates of the player articles. But can't you just do one whole edit instead of two? Got me some edit conflicts already. Kante4 (talk) 16:04, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

@Kante4: Well it will take longer amount of time for me though. How about we split so you got one team and I got the other? – Flix11 (talk) 08:52, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Just do the whole edit. Not sure what is so hard about it? I do it aswell and it's easy and quicker than loading the article, edit the box, loading the article, edit the International section and then load the page again... Kante4 (talk) 16:02, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Flix, you're still aren't doing a correct time/date stamp. Be helpful if you could thanks. Govvy (talk) 16:20, 7 July 2018 (UTC)

Update

you must see other user before i am wrote. lihat dulu ya sebelum saya tulis. tahniah emosimu ya. jangan anggap saya salah. lihat dulu usernya sebelum saya tulis. Akuindo (talk) 14:21, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

@Akuindo: Cuba awak tengok [3] line 542. – Flix11 14:28, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

July 2018

Please do not add or change content, as you did at John Stones, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:23, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

@Mattythewhite: Stop the revert. I will type the source. – Flix11 (talk) 16:24, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Maybe mind the attitude, and learn some basic grammar while you're at it. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:32, 14 July 2018 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did on The End of the World (Skeeter Davis song). This violates Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. 75.182.115.183 (talk) 13:40, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

@75.182.115.183: Make an account first. Then we'll talk. Actually I want to cite, but since the movie is uploaded illegally, thus violating WP:VIDEOLINK, I can not cite it. It is in here. Go to 46:28 to hear the song. Please understand. – Flix11 (talk) 14:28, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

You need to get control of your attitude if you want to continue editing here. Wikipedia does not require registration to edit, and that includes issuing legitimate warnings. I suggest reading WP:CIVIL. This is not your personal website to do with as you please. Wikipedia has rules and guidelines, and you don't have any special privilege that allows you to ignore them. Collaborative editing is required. You have numerous warnings on this talk page. If you continue to ignore them you are headed for a another block. Second and third blocks usually are for a long period of time. And it doesn't matter what you or I hear at 46:28. You need a source. Again, read WP:V and WP:RS. The warning stands. 173.209.178.244 (talk) 17:09, 20 July 2018 (UTC)

Tottenham first team kit

The blue/black doesn't go half way up on the shirt, it's only on the bottom part of the shirt. It needs fixing, please review the photo's at the Tottenham website. Govvy (talk) 14:20, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@Govvy: I left the away kit in generic because the templates currently available (made by JonasBR, see on Spurs' Portuguese Wiki page) are wrong. The sleeves have 2 different colours, the one I listed in the generic is the greyish blue below the shoulders. Since the remake will cost me many times I currently do not have, I left it generic for now and I concentrated to both "easier-to-make" kits and my real life (with thesis looms). As for the home, I did not make those (Jonas did), but if I find you are correct, I will make one more suitable for you. If you can make those away kit, can you make one? I will correct the colors if you get it wrong. – Flix11 (talk) 15:10, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

@Govvy: Done. Is that good enough? – Flix11 (talk) 15:26, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

I don't know, still looks like more than needed on the top shirt, I am not good with colours, doesn't help that I have partial colour-blindness! Govvy (talk) 15:45, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Oh sorry to hear that. Well I have lowered the accent a little bit and tested it with white shorts, and I thought it was good. Thank you for bringing this up! – Flix11 (talk) 16:08, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

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Here, 1, Govvy (talk) 15:41, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

@Govvy: Yes I know. I can not make the templates because there are too much details. I will wait for JonasBR. – Flix11 (talk) 15:43, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

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Here is the link for the Indonesian team.--Anbans 585 (talk) 10:44, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

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Hi, are you interested in editing the article? Need few people to help me out.--Hongqilim (talk) 01:08, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

@Hongqilim: With pleasure. Thank you for the invitation. – Flix11 (talk) 15:57, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Welcome.--Hongqilim (talk) 16:02, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

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Special:Diff/865088518 - a lot of Burnley fans would have found it better when the team drew 1 each in their match yesterday than the 5-0 battering which actually happened. Iggy (Swan) 17:18, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

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Calum Wilson

Has scored seven league goals this season, not six. Govvy (talk) 14:35, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

@Govvy: Thank me later – Flix11 (talk) 14:37, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Obviously that source will be updated in due course. Govvy (talk) 14:41, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

@Govvy: It is real time, it was even updated while the match still on the way. Martial's updated already. – Flix11 (talk) 14:47, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

Hmm, I was looking at soccerbase, is that becoming unreliable now? Govvy (talk) 14:52, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

If there is an official source for stats tracking (like premierleague(dot)com), why not follow that instead? – Flix11 (talk) 14:55, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

I hardly use premierleague.com , I like soccerway for stats. Govvy (talk) 14:57, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

It is not really accurate, for instance on many Indonesian MNT players. But there is no other choice for their stats other than SW and NFT.com. The PSSI and Liga 1 website do not update other than goals and assists (this too not so updated either). – Flix11 (talk) 15:02, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

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@Stvbastian: Cek itu sumbernya gan, ga ada hasilnya. Sumber dari FEI udah paling reliable, karena itu federasi berkuda internasional yang resmi. Di sumbernya ada tabel hasil yang agan ketik di halaman itu, peringkatnya ada di sebelah kiri, kolom "Pos.". Untuk situsnya coba agan cek semua halaman di semua cabang atau nomor, bisa diakses apa nggak, soalnya webnya sampai tadi pagi Invalid URL mulu ga bisa di-Wayback pun. – Flix11 (talk) 07:20, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

This is not about an official or unofficial source, but how the citation must verify the statement in the text (Please read: WP:GOODREFS). As you can see in the Equestrian at the 2018 Asian Games – Team jumping, the sentence "This was the eighth appearance of this event since its debut at the Asian Games in 1986 in Seoul", those words cite from the archived version that you said cant be accessed, but when i try to open it was accessible: https://web.archive.org/web/20181112053506/https://en.asiangames2018.id/news/articles/event-preview-jumping-team-equestrian/ . But you removed that source and change with ( https://data.fei.org/Result/ResultList.aspx?p=E35B05C037D77E61EAB3C7DDE7A49B70ADA50D7AD8351E81200F33E2AE668927 ) which doesn't explain the statement at all.

Then, the source from the FEI that you cite was not the most reliable source. You should know which one is better used and accepted as a reference in wikipedia (Read: WP:STICKTOSOURCE, WP:SOURCE). This ref ( https://www.fei.org/stories/saudi-arabia-takes-team-gold-asian-games ), will be more reliable than the the source that you put for the statement "Saudi Arabia won the gold medal, followed by Japan and Qatar."

In the Equestrian at the 2018 Asian Games – Team jumping#Schedule section you also put sources which was not verify the statement in the text. The column in that section talk about date and time, but the source that you put, doesnt cite about "time" at all.Stvbastian (talk) 12:30, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

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@Domdeparis: It is notable as it was the first for the group, if merged to any pages (including what you did) it will be enormous because this year's (now running) is the 5th edition and each contains many info such as results table and timeline. This information should not only be kept in the Indonesian Wikipedia as the ID Wiki usually not comply with Wikipedia policies (too many unsourced info, etc.) and that the fans of the group are not only speak Indonesian. Besides, there are already 2 pages of the 2 later iterations of this and the 4th edition redirected solely because of lack of refs. I want to share information about the group to the English-speaking world since anything JKT48 here are so scarce (only 3 pages with "JKT48" in its title that might deemed notable: profile, members, and discography). It is very little compared to AKB48. All of its singles are in ENWIKI, JKT48 has not mentioned in recent singles covered from AKB48. The election for performers in a group is a thing only happens in the 48 Group (AKB48), currently only exist in Asia. And it is held annually, just like beauty pageant with a twist. So please return the page to the previous version, I hope this will make people know more about the group and its unique tradition. Thank you. – Flix11 (talk) 18:16, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi Flix11, once again you have a problem with "sources". I will give you some suggestions. In Wikipedia we need some media coverage to support the notability, not only the single source from jkt48.com site. So, for your next article, you should add some reliable source to support the article (Read: WP:SOURCE, WP:GNG). I hope it can help you. Stvbastian (talk) 23:58, 13 November 2018 (UTC)

@Stvbastian: Thank you for your enlightenment. @Domdeparis: here are some other sources related: by Detik.com, one of the most prominent news website in ID, by Hai, was also issued teen magazine for about 40 years until June 2017, and by MetroTV, one of the most prominent and is the first news TV in ID. I hope these will be enough. Thanks. – Flix11 (talk) 00:45, 14 November 2018 (UTC)

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I see you have one more brilliant idea but before "fixing" things you should know the reason I created that page Martial arts at the Asian Games and not 4 separate pages for those 4 martial arts sports that wasn't because I didn't want to. because in wikipedia you can't justify creating such pages for sports appearing only "ONCE" in the Games. and since they were held under the name of "Martial Arts" officially I thought that page could cover them all and also that justifies existing that page. I would create separate pages for any of those sports if they are going to be included to any future AG Games. and how do you think you can delete the information without at least creating "List of Asian Games medalists in ju-jitsu" (and Kurash and Sambo) ? and as I said before if someone nominates them for deletion there is a big chance they will get deleted because of wikipedia policy. Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:08, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mohsen1248: I have returned it. As in here wushu is included, should it be added also? – Flix11 (talk) 15:15, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Wushu had been in AG before as a separate sport so I think no. actually personally I would like to create separate pages for all those 4 pages , the current way is not my ideal situation but for now this is the best option (to keep those pages away from deletion) until those sports get into the Games at least one more time in future events. I also don't know what to do for Jet Ski and Paragliding, creating separate pages for them ? or keeping them in one page as "Mechanical sports" (what was the original idea to keep them as one sport). Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:20, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mohsen1248: I think for now it should be either directed straight to 2018 event pages (eg. Paragliding at the 2018 Asian Games) or make a redirect page for each (eg. Paragliding at the Asian Games, the content will be #REDIRECT Paragliding at the 2018 Asian Games), as the content will be almost 100% the same. I prefer the first because to change content in a redirect page is kind of harder as it will summon some admins. – Flix11 (talk) 15:27, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

well yeah I guess so, just to make things clear. so you mean redirecting Paragliding at the Asian Games to Paragliding at the 2018 Asian Games, that makes sense. Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:36, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mohsen1248: Correcting. It is better like now. The 2018 articles already stated on the right column. – Flix11 (talk) 15:40, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

I'm fine with both. even though redirecting won't cause problem here. this is different that moving pages. you can change that anytime you want. Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:57, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mohsen1248: It is better like now. The 2018 articles already stated on the right column. – Flix11 (talk) 15:59, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

One more thing, I see you are blanking the white part of the pictograms. some of them still have it. Water polo, Tennis, Squash, Swimming, Soft tennis, Equestrian and Boxing as far as I check, can u fix them too ? beside that it would be even better if you can keep the height and width exactly the same. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:24, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mohsen1248: I have blanked many of the pictograms, those just won't go in tables. If you click the images on those specific pages, you will see that all of them also have blank BGs. So I have given up on those. LOL. – Flix11 (talk) 16:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Is there anyone know wheres i can find list of canoe polo athletes at the 2018 Asian Games? Mohsen1248, Flix11.. Stvbastian (talk) 15:09, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

@Stvbastian: Oh, you don't know how much I tried and searched for that, I found some lists here and there. mostly from national federations. I also sent few emails to the organizers, still no answer. I also found out Iranian teams were consisted of 7 athletes instead of 6 while the official handbook says each team can't be more than 6 ! Mohsen1248 (talk) 15:33, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

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1962 stadiums

Hi again, I see you are changing stadium names for 1962 AG just because probably those names don't sound familiar for you in 2018. but you should know there is a source for all of them. maybe some of them don't exist nowadays or have different names but I have a PDF final for the organizing committee (something like an official report). you can check it here. Mohsen1248 (talk) 11:15, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mohsen1248: I appreciate it, but the thesis does not distinguish the venues to which sports, therefore still causing ambiguity. For instance the Main Stadium was used for football and athletics. When the athletics (25 to 30 Aug) event was held, the football event (25 Aug to 4 Sep) would of course held somewhere else. That is why I did the edits. But thank you so much for this. – Flix11 (talk) 15:57, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Check page 245, this is a screen shot from the official document, that includes all stadiums for all sports. they mention two stadiums for football. I also have official report from Malaysian NOC having the same document about the stadiums. (with some slim differences) that's not available online I guess but I can email that in case you want to be sure. Mohsen1248 (talk) 16:09, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mohsen1248: I expected to see the venues for football were GBK and Ikada Stadium. On which part it was said two stadiums for the event? Maybe you can put it on GDrive and post the link here. Thank you. – Flix11 (talk) 17:00, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

Found a chart on page 279. Thank you so much for sharing this "buried" thesis. Hopefully Indonesians can learn more about our own history like President Sukarno said amid his last days in office: "Never leave your history!" – Flix11 (talk) 17:05, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

I took screenshot from that PDF file . you can see it here and here

well I spent lots of times searching to find results and reports about the history of the Asian Games. and my search is not finished yet. still lots of missing info. some of my sources are not online , I can't put them as references for the articles. Mohsen1248 (talk) 19:03, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

@Mohsen1248: Wait, there are differences between both, like in football, basketball, and table tennis. Even there was judo according to Malaya's, while there was not in the thesis or any other sources. But the Malaya's on table tennis (took place in Senayan Gym instead of Istora) sounds fit. – Flix11 (talk) 09:36, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

Yeah I said there are small differences, about Judo. I assume that was in original program but didn't held probably because of lack of entries. because I also searched a lot in old newspapers about this Games and never read anything about Judo. now we are here, some medalists are missing in swimming and waterpolo, is that possible for you find them ? I already tried a lot myself and no avail but I thought it doesn't hurt asking. Mohsen1248 (talk) 10:22, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

@Mohsen1248: Well I will leave the medals to you. BTW, I found this map of AG complex (GBK) and there was no volleyball stadium inside. So where were the volleyball event took place in your opinion? – Flix11 (talk) 09:22, 2 December 2018 (UTC)

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