User talk:Flcelloguy/Archive08
More Vandal ProxiesUser:216.153.21.205, [[User:Sam_Korn/RI think I know where our vandal got his/her proxy list. :-) I'm thinking it'd be good just to block all of those IPs on that page. Netscott 22:25, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
A KISS Rfa ThanksThank you, I've been promoted. pschemp | talk 01:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC) Ref converterHey, I'm glad to hear that you've been enjoying the ref converter. I just rolled out version 2 which is significantly better; you don't have to download separate text files and you definitely don't need to need to worry about characters from foreign character sets getting mangled. --Cyde Weys 07:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC) Please sort immediatelySee bottom of WP:AN to see what I mean 84.9.99.252 00:26, 14 April 2006 (UTC) MediaWikiCan you please comment on my MediaWiki:talk comment. Thanks.Voice-of-AllT|@|ESP 19:17, 14 April 2006 (UTC) InvitationThe Mediation Cabal You are a disputant in a case listed under Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases.
We invite you to be a mediator in a different case.
Please read How do I get a mediator assigned to my case? for more information. Fasten 21:09, 14 April 2006 (UTC) ThanxThat "WikiTruth" vandal linkSPAMmer was getting annoying! 68.39.174.238 01:54, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Happy Spring celebration / Easter (as your preferences and beliefs dictate)KnowI know all about Wikipedia. I've been on Wikipedia since December, 2003. You please don't take me off that list until the 20th. I just want to try to run. You know if your anxious to become an adminship. General Eisenhower 17:55, 16 April 2006 (UTC) Heh, Bush gets a free pass because of Wikipedia policyYou and I both know Bush is a War Criminal, but one cannot espouse the opinion on Wikipedia discussion pages (not the actual entries) because no other agency has the guts to do it first...:) Oh well, feel free to delete my post from the Bush pages. I won't take it to heart. TheKurgan 20:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC) Reference / external linkHiya, I was reviewing the Wikipedia article, and saw that there's an item there that's listed as a reference, which in actuality is just a blog post. Normally I'd just edit the page myself and move the item down from "References" to "External links", but upon reviewing the history and discussion page, it looks like it's pretty busy over there. ;) So, I didn't want to make a change without talking it over first with someone who's more familiar with the political culture there. What do you recommend? Should I make the change directly, or bring it up first on the talk page, or is it considered "okay" on that particular page to cite blogs as references? Or would you like me to run it past you first to get your opinion?[1] Thanks, --Elonka 23:28, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
Original researchMy post wasn't original research. The US Constitution and the Hague Convention of 1907 clearly prove Bush is a War Criminal. Just because no one else has had the guts to say/publish it doesn't make it any less true. But, I understand your policies. Don't want to get sued for telling the truth and all that...it makes business sense. But this American Hitler is getting away with murder and unless the public stands up against him, the US is going to go down the toilet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheKurgan (talk • contribs) 01:10, April 17, 2006 Flcelloguy's Tool and SourceForgeHello, Flcelloguy. I've started the SourceForge registration process, as AWB did and some have suggested, so we can have CVS and hosting access for the tool, but I'm at a slight hang due for the most improbable of reasons: Licensing issues. The code has been stored on Wikipedia, which places it under the GFDL - however, the GFDL is not one of the approved licenses for SourceForge. The only way I can put it there is if I put it under the GPL, which our article on the GFDL license says it is incompatible with. So, as AySz88 (I've talked to him on IRC) and myself don't mind about dual-licensing those contributions, what do you think about this? Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:36, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
Tim Pat CooganCould you please review what is going on on the Tim Pat Coogan wikipage and Discussion page?? Someone keeps deleting my adds/edits claiming I am a "sockpuppet". My additions are sourced and cited, and I believe that there is an element of censorship going on here. 70.19.67.28 23:36, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Why did you move this policy?!You recently moved the policy Wikipedia:Restrictions on Anonymous Editing from Shared IPs to a subpage, which now leads others to believe the archived discussion about a former rendition of this policy applies to the current policy. This is grossly inaccurate, and I request that you immediately return the policy to its original loaction. Please discuss these changes on the talk page before implementing. Thanks. AmiDaniel (Talk) 03:42, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
ReaganGreetings. I have reviewed the Teflon business... I apologize for the reversions... I thought I was reverting improper grammer - after the end of the day it wasnt making sense to me. After re-reading it now I see I was changing the context of the Teflon statement... it just wasnt reading right to me after a day of studying and work. Id also like to get some peer review and additional opinions into the article. Both editors are Republican and seem to have an interest in portraying the president favourably no matter what. Im just trying to get a halfway balanced introduction into the article. Your comments are appreciated. Yours, CanadianPhaedrus 07:39, 22 April 2006 (UTC)CanadianPhaedrus My search into mediation options has led me back to you - I did not see the mediator tag directly infront of my face. But I did see it on the Wikipedia Mediation page and recognized it. Specifically, there are two issues I'd like you to address in the Reagan article if you have the time. First, the inclusion of a paragraph containing references to Reagan's documented "wishful thinking". The reason I'd like to see it included is because it injects some balance into the opening paragraph. The current edition being reverted to touts Reagan under his "Great Communicator" name and also has the recent addition of "At his death he was hailed as one of the most important leaders of the 20th century". I have changed the sentence to "At his death he was hailed by American media as one of the most important leaders of the 20th century".... which I think adequately describes the position of the coverage of the major news networks. It is my position that if information that is slight POV positive is allowed in an opening summary, then surely there is a place for some criticism as well - rather than it being regulated to the depths of this exceedingly large article. Secondly, regarding his role in the demise of the Soviet Union. While the best solution is probably for the creation of a separate article focusing on the role of Reagan and the differing view points... I think the description I have added of his impact being debated by historians is most accurate - as previous definitions indicated that "most historians" credit Reagan as being responsible for the collapse, and "a distinct minority" seeing the economic factors as important. Thanks! CanadianPhaedrus 07:59, 22 April 2006 (UTC)CanadianPhaedrus I'm coming to you because you appear to be pretty fair-minded. Would you mind looking over this user's edits from the last few hours? I do believe that he's preparing to use Wikipedia to aid in his upcoming U.S. Congressional campaign. I first noticed that he was adding articles for dictionary-type definitions, such as "Swim Coach" and "youth leader." When I visited his userpage, I realized that he added the articles because they were linked in his userpage bio, which is also duplicated at the mainspace article Simon Ribeiro. I don't really see anything there that would lead me to believe that he is currently notable enough for his own article, but I wanted to get another opinion on this. Joyous | Talk 23:54, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
The information you have on headlight restoring and such iss completely incorrect. I was under the impression that since I am patented I can uinclude my name, product name, website address, and content about this. Obviously I am wrong. What can I include here to correct this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dmaillie (talk • contribs).
Old Skool Esperanzial noteSince this isn't the result of an AC meeting, I have decided to go Old Skool. This note is to remind you that the elections are taking place now and will end at 23:50 UTC on 2006-04-29. Please vote here. Thanks. --Celestianpower háblame 20:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC) Flcelloguy, I am backHi Flcelloguy, I am back. I hope this finds you well. You were nice enough to help out with a word usage question, "outwith" that turned out nicely. I wish this was as non-contriversail but I have moved onto bigger and better things:) Over on the Turkey article, I saw that a user had added an internal link to the Armenian Genocide. It has now become an edit war since this topic is VERY senistive to BOTH sides. I really hate to go to RFA, is that the right term, or spend energy on this battle since its really not mine to fight but I sort of take it personally now which I know I shouldn't. It just seems like there should be at least SOME mention SOMEWHERE in the article about the ONGOING contraversy over whether Turkey/the World community recognizes WHATEVER took place to the Armenian people back in 1914 or thereabouts. Just because it happened BEFORE the Turkish republic was formed doesn't mean there can be NO mention of subject it seeems. Anyways, I am sure your VERY happy to get sucked into this mess by me :) Thanks! ps maybe I should just stick to topics like computer chips and tooth paste :) Tom 13:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC) Flcelloguy, DISREGARD EVERYTHING ABOVE! I have decided to move on and NOT edit the above mentioned article anymore. I will try to edit where I can improve and make a difference and leave the contraversial battles to the fanatics:) Thanks anyways! Tom 16:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)p.s. Do you preffer gel or paste for your tooth paste?? ThanksThanks for your help with American liberalism. Rick Norwood 00:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC) News and notesCan you link me to this week's News and Notes? Ral315 (talk) 01:19, 25 April 2006 (UTC) News and notesI figured as much; they're already done. Don't worry about it; it happens to the best of us (myself most often, it seems.) Ral315 (talk) 02:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC) Thanks buddyI am n00b to be frank, so I knew the hyper-encryption would be a bit screwy, thank you very much. Just wonderin,D'you truly know about hyper-encryption? Because I am quite interested in it, and I dunno if you know something that could help me understand it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bassistphysicist (talk • contribs). On Welcoming CommitteeHi! Just wanted to touch base. You 'first' greeted me a year back with a welcome message, et. al. Congradulations on the various elections! I was snooping your user page for the wikipedian category coresponding to the 'welcoming committee'. I seem to do a lot of that these days, and thought I'd join the patrols. I thought I'd steal the CAT from you. ;( Now I have to find it the hard way! <G> Re the whole de-bureaucrating thingHi, I never came to thank you for the message you left for me a month ago when I stepped down from being a bureaucrat. Thank you for the things you said, it's good to know there are still plenty of good people about in this project. I do not see myself standing for bureaucrat again anytime soon though who knows what the future may bring! Thank you once again. -- Francs2000 09:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC) Elections
Esperanza elections
Thanks for supporting me in the Esperanza Advisory Council Elections. Although I wasn't elected to the Advisory Council, I am very happy with the response I received from my fellow Wikipedians. I was shocked at the support, and was touched by it. Hopefully I will re-apply in June and try again for the job. Thanks again, Highway Rainbow Sneakers AutoWikiBrowserCan you add me (or not, if I am not eligible) to the list of users allowed to use WP:AutoWikiBrowser? I'm asking you because you know how to use your own edit counter, which is the only one that displays me as having 500 main namespace edits. Thanks. P.S. If you feel I'm not eligible, please do not add me. Image Tagging Image:TDWaterhouseCentre.jpg
Thanks for uploading Image:TDWaterhouseCentre.jpg. I notice the 'image' page currently doesn't specify who created the content, so the copyright status is unclear. If you have not created this media yourself then there needs to be an argument why we have the right to use the media on Wikipedia (see copyright tagging below). If you have not created the media yourself then it needs to be specified where it was found, i.e., in most cases link to the website where it was taken from, and the terms of use for content from that page. If the media also doesn't have a copyright tag then one should be added. If you created/took the picture, audio, or video then the {{GFDL-self}} tag can be used to release it under the GFDL. If you believe the media qualifies as fair use, consider reading fair use, and then use a tag such as {{Non-free fair use in|article name}} or one of the other tags listed at Wikipedia:Image copyright tags#Fair_use. See Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the full list of copyright tags that you can use. If you have uploaded other media, consider checking that you have specified their source and copyright tagged them, too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any unsourced and untagged images will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. ccwaters 23:55, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
I find your lack of faith... disturbing.Dear Flcelloguy/Archive08,
Sunday Times Golden Globe RaceHi, sorry to bug you, and feel free to ignore if you're not interested, but I found your comments on the recent Cape Horn FAC so helpful that I wondered if you would be interested in looking over the Sunday Times Golden Globe Race FAC. I feel that this is an interesting article; it currently has a couple of "support" votes, but seems to be suffering from a lack of interest. I'd much rather have it fail because of 100 specific objections than for simple lack of readers; so, if you have too much time on your hands ;-), I'd welcome any comments you might have, positive or negative. Cheers, — Johan the Ghost seance 14:42, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Thank you!
The ToolFlcelloguy, Great job on the Tool. I use it every week, (^'-')^ Covington 02:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC) ITNNoticed you'd just been on ITN, could you possibly do this? The whole tense problem looks worse every time I see it. Many thanks. Ian3055 14:39, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Esperanza Newsletter, Issue #3
Red links are now more confusing than they used to be.Hi Flcelloguy. I picked you out of the crowd because I saw that you worked on the template MediaWiki:Nocreatetext, and I think there is still a major flaw with it, and/or with red-link functionality in general. At the moment, I think a lot of unregistered users would be saying "WTF?" upon following a red link. May I direct you to the comment I made here? : MediaWiki_talk:Nocreatetext#Red_links_now_more_confusing_than_they_used_to_be. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coelacan (talk • contribs) Hello friend. I was the original creator of this article, under the title Canadair CL215. It was redesignated by User:Rlandmann as a redirect to the existing title, but he used a cut-and-paste instead of a move to recreate the article at its current title. Therefore, my creation and subsequent edit were lost. I note that they still do not appear with the article - it looks like User:Simetrical was attempting to restore them but either gave up or did not do so correctly. Can you fix this? Thanks! Denni ☯ 00:09, 11 May 2006 (UTC) Canadair CL-215Thanks for completing the history merge. My creation edit is not at the beginning as it should be, but I guess this far after the fact, I can't hope for better. Denni ☯ 19:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC) Thanks for reverting my user pageMany thanks for the speedy revert of the recent vandalism of my user page. It was greatly appreciated. All the best, Gwernol 01:24, 14 May 2006 (UTC) Could you pop into the above discussion and give more detail on the div you removed? I just want to know what it was doing or why it is no longer needed... Thanks. ++Lar: t/c 15:45, 14 May 2006 (UTC) (I prefer to keep things threaded where they are started... ++Lar)
You reverted my edit on Lebron James having vertigo. On the vertigo page it says he has the disease as well. —Preceding unsigned comment added by W123 (talk • contribs) GA spam on featured templatehi, i see that the "good article" spam has been put back in Template:featured despite objections from several users. this seems to be the way the GA project works: boldly putting something into a page that doesnt want it, then claiming consensus is required to *remove* it again (consensus is never required to put it there in the first place). this is exactly the same behaviour as witnessed on the attempt to create an article space "good article" star, which i & raul654 finally managed to have deleted (a huge effort since they had already spammed a 1000 articles with it), and on the Community Portal where this non-policy wikiproject has pride of place - its apparently far more important than any of the other dozens of collaborations! they even had the cheek to remove the "non-policy process" template from the top of their project pages claiming they now had "enough support to be policy" - this is despite clear consensus on the talk page that its NOT policy. an attempt to put it back was quickly removed. as an admin, would you be so kind as to unlock the featured template and remove the GA spam? i'm really fed up with fighting these GA spam battles everywhere, its quite tiring. why do they have to constantly spread their GA spam everywhere? hope you can help! Zzzzz 09:45, 15 May 2006 (UTC) Why so stressed?Hi, I was just wandering by your user page and I noticed that you're pretty stressed. I was wondering, if you wanted to tell me, whats the cause of said stress? Mopper Speak! 02:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC) I think you may have unprotected this early, not sure. I just moved it off the main and went to unprotect it and saw that you had unprotected 10 min after I put it on in the last update. Or maybe I was looking at things wrong... PS you can answer here, I watch... ++Lar: t/c 12:53, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Simple English WiktionaryHi Flcelloguy. I notice you haven't edited on SEWikt in quite a while. I guess it has to do with your extremely busy state. Don't forget to take that warning off here when it no longer applies. :) Hope things are going well for you. You'll be glad to know that community consensus is getting most of the necessary changes made on SEWikipedia. There are even links to all the SE projects on the new Main Page there. Back in February you mentioned getting Patrolled Edits turned on for SEWikt. I read up on it a little bit, and found that it is standard with MediaWiki 1.4, but it doesn't seem to be working yet on SEWikt. Could you check on that for me? Thanks. It is kind of lonely being the only editor that is really active on a project, as I am currently on SEWikt, SEB, and SEQ. Oh well. I shouldn't complain, since I was kind of asking it working on these tiny projects. I'll just have to try some recruiting on the English projects. Happy editing! --Cromwellt|Talk 22:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC) Editcounter ToolWhen it downloads the data during an edit summary check, is it downloaded temporarily or is it stored somewhere on the the hard drive?—G.He 02:15, 18 May 2006 (UTC) A medal for Flcelloguy
You're welcome. . .Thanks for the note and for preventing a dust-up on the Gerald Ford Talk page. FYI, the most recent article from WPMichigan on the Toledo War and Detroit, Michigan are in Peer Review. Jtmichcock 23:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC) Mediation Committee BusinessMediation CommitteeHi Flcelloguy, I really welcome your questions and the fact that you have clearly reviewed my Wikipedia contributions. Let me take your question in turn, if I may. Firstly, the issues to do with Jimbo. As you quite rightly point out he had never used his power to ulitmately control the encyolpedia, and I can certainly understand the situations where he needs to via say User:Danny (although of course, that is not the WP:OFFICE account, which I can't remember off-hand). I was merely pointing out that on an ideological basis I feel that the final control of Wikipedia should rest with Wikipedians and not lie with some 'leader'. It is more an unachivebale goal than a realistic overnight dream. I would suggest that you look at my contribution to the debate on the Lolicon image deletion which can be seenhere. Secondly, you ask about my views on Arbitration and Mediation and the relation between the two. Obviously the two are separate and distinct but there are some similar themes in both: namely that you are dealing with conflicts and edit wars etc.. The differences lie in how to deal with them; MedCom using mediation and more 'peaceful' methods; ArbCom looking at more persitent or serious problems usually have to resort ot more drastic measures. I would suggest that the MedCom serves as a very good grounding for ArbCom as it enables Arbitrators to understand a lot of the common edit-war problems and causes, but also allows them to see how a wide-range of solutions can work to a problem. I think that it also increases an editors experience of the Wikipedia Community, and of the huge range of opinions and views of Wikipedians. Looking now at the issue of lack of edits/experience on Wikipedia. This was in relation as well to my Admin Coaching, and the fact that if I stood, at that time, for RfA I think that would have been one of the first comments to arise. I feel that since making that statement I have increased my range of use on Wikipedia, I am now a mediator on VandalProof, I stood for election to both CJ and Esperenza. I am trying as much as possible to get more invovled in the community. I would like to say that I think that my mediations should speak for themselves with relation to the MedCom. I don't see how edit counts etc. have too great bearing. I'm sure there are many editors out there with many times the number of edits I have, but who equally would not amke as good a mediator. I'm currently starting what looks to be a fairly complex mediation, the Medical Analysis of Circumcision one, so feel free to vote after looking at how I handle that one. There is also the Russian Language one which I successfully mediated last month. The real-life mediation experience I mention is quite broad and wide-raning. I have basic mediator training and have done some work-expereience with realtion to ADR. I have also been invovled with the Centre for Non-Violent Communication. Now I hope that goes someway to answering your questions. Now I'm happy to discuss things further with you, be it via Wikipedia or on MSN, Skype, GoogeTalk, AIM, IRC whatever. If you do have any further comments or questions do please get in contact. --Wisden17 22:46, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
Smile :)—G.He has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling to someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Smile to others by adding {{subst:smile}}, {{subst:smile2}} or {{subst:smile3}} to their talk pages. Happy editing! —G.He 23:06, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
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Outage
Could you merge User:ForestH2/Signpost/Outage into your news and notes article for 8/21? It's to short- and I don't know any other news than already on there unless you or someone else can expand it. ForestH2 t/c 03:22, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- O.K. By the way I arranged your comments on the newsroom. Hope you don't mind. ForestH2 t/c 03:25, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- I'll start it in your userspace. When will you be back on tommorow? ForestH2 t/c 03:30, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Started. Well I'll complete it since I'm departing now but I'll be back on at around 14:00. (UTC) ForestH2 t/c 03:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Before you leave, on News and notes can you get rid of the in other languages bar? How do you do that? ForestH2 t/c 03:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Signpost
I've finished N & N, along with Ral315. I just started the article and he made the sections longer after I finished. You can check it out at User:Flcelloguy/Signpost/News and notes 8 21. Let me know if you ever need help with N & N again, I'm going to be doing technology reports for the Signpost. ForestH2 t/c 17:19, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Your welcome again, though I was late due to slow computer service. Nice page on the board elections though. It was also very hard to find many N & N stories to cover; this week so I thought I'd cover the sidebar proposal, and Wikimania 2007 which you also did last week. ForestH2 t/c 20:53, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
- Oh that was fixed. You see, I notice on the meta news think that's linked from the newsroom/other that there's always :en: but this week people forgot to add it so it was en: and the bar below the toolbox kept showing up but I fixed it. ForestH2 t/c 20:54, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
Bot issues: SEWiktionary
Hi Flcelloguy,
I just wanted to let you know that we have a bot that has been working on the SEWiktionary for a while now and it is really making a mess of the rc page. If you could botflag it, that would be great! Thanks. Your friend, --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 00:33, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry, wrong admin! I was trying to contact the bureaucrat, but that's h2g2bob! In any case, I hope you haven't forgotten about us. Happy editing! --Cromwellt|talk|contribs 00:34, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
I replied to your questions
I replied to your questions on page where you posted them [3] Thank you Ross.Hedvicek 18:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Signpost material
I replied at m:User talk:UninvitedCompany. The Uninvited Co., Inc. 19:05, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
Signpost questions..
Please see my meta talk page for the answers to the signpost questions --Improv 02:15, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
- Hope I've made it in on time; mine are located at m:User:Mindspillage/Flcelloguy's_questions. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:08, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- Mine are located at m:User talk:Zuirdj#Board_of_Trustees_elections. --Zuirdj 04:19, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Hadraj
HELLO I dont unterstand english if possible to tranlate me what do mean merci Utilisateur:Hadraj196.206.66.17 07:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
Election questions
I'm not sure exactly when your deadline is, but I'm currently working on answering your questions at User_talk:AaronSw/Election/Signpost. AaronSw 17:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Hi I am currently answering your questions. I will be ready in about one hour. I sadly didn't have any time up to now. When was/is the deadline? Arnomane 21:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
- Done , see. http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer_Diskussion:Arnomane#Board_of_Trustees_elections Arnomane 22:58, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
Problem with my contribution being labeled "vandalism"
Dear Flcelloguy,
I have just made my first contribution to an existing page on Wikipedia, only to find that someone who claims to be an editor has removed it and sent me a caution that my entry was vandalism, and if I "want to experiment I do so in the sandbox."
I am asking if you will serve as a mediator in this dispute and protect my rights to contribute responsibly to Wikipedia even if that contribution infuriates certain political extremists who happen to be editors. I chose you because you are from a southern state, as am I, and my challenged contribution concerns a political conservative personality, Glenn Beck. My contribution is outlined below and the name of the editor who has removed my entry is "Kuru."
As you are a cellist, you may be interested in two volumes on Venetian Violin craft, "Luitieri e Sonadori" by Stefano Pio that my wife and I translated from Italian to English. They are quite a beautiful set, lavishly illustrated and very informative. Many thanks for your help and I hope this matter can be amicably resolved and mediated in a manner consistent with the rights all contributors who wish have to responsibly contribute. sincerely, Robert Schoen schoenrobert@hotmail.com
details of disputed entry contribution, and my corespondence to the editor who removed it follow:
I had never seen or heard of Mr. Beck prior to last week, and in checking him out on Wikipedia, thought I could make a productive contribution to his entry which follows.
“Glenn Beck on Headline News” subsection in Wikipedia under "Glenn Beck"
(My Additions are in parentheses) CNN Headline News calls Beck's show "an unconventional look at the news of the day featuring his often amusing perspective on the top stories from world events and politics to pop culture and everyday hassles."[10] Beck's TV program is not supposed to be a traditional news program. He says it is a news talk show for people who can't take the news anymore.[11] “Perceived by many viewers to be a mirthful but venom spewing clown, Beck has been cited as a "Rush Limbaugh lite" type who uses his QVC salesman personality to sell the repugnant ideas scripted for him on a daily basis by his illuminati handlers. Like Limbaugh, Mike Savage, Ann Coulter, or George Bush, the Illuminati appears to harvest their spokesman from among those most susceptible to substance abuse, which accounts for the irrationality and toxicity of their comments. CNN's hiring of Beck for its primetime slot signals that corporation's abandonment of its long-held policy to provide its viewers with the illusion of a free press. It is also a strong indicator of the administration’s confidence in the effectiveness of its ongoing mind control programming of the general populace, by various means which include the fluoridation on most drinking water supplies, debilitating pulsing ELF signals emanating from cell phone towers, and subliminal Wernike commands embedded within most popular radio and television programs. These unpublicized citizen control programming tactics have become so effective that a large portion of the population still believes the media's cries of "Wolf" over terrorist attacks, even though it has been proven beyond doubt that spectacular events such as the attack and demolition of the Twin Towers on 9/11 were orchestrated by the U.S. Government to pave the way for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Because of this technology's proven effectiveness at keeping people from realizing what is really going on, CNN has expressed every confidence that the foisting of this pathological liar clown upon the general public will go largely unnoticed and uncommented on.” Beck is the host of a weeknight hour-long show on CNN Headline News which premiered on May 8, 2006. As Beck is a controversial figure, many of his critics have wondered why CNN would hire him. Part of the reason CNN has gone out on a limb with Beck is to attract younger viewers, which in this case means under 60.[12] At the time CNN hired Beck, his radio show was the third highest-ranked national radio talk show among adults ages 25 to 54 according to Premiere Research/Arbitron.[13] Glenn Beck on Headline News airs nightly at 7:00pm Eastern Time, repeating at 9:00 pm and 12:00 am.
My contribution to the Glen Beck Wikipedia entry was removed, only to be replaced by me, and this went on several times. I assumed they wanted me to correct the spelling and happily complied. However I was given a warning by a self-appointed editor named “Kuru” that my contribution was considered “Vandalism.”
I am including below some correspondence with Wikipedia editors.
I hope this is the proper way to reach you with my reply to the controversy that has erupted over my contribution to the "Headline News" section to the Glenn Beck entry. "Kuru" has removed my contribution, claiming it is abusive. I am of the opinion that it is a valid and worthy observation pertinent to this section and well written. I am enclosing a copy of my response to "Kuru" and would like for you to instruct me on how I may appeal for a third party intervetion or overview of this dispute. many thanks Robert Schoen
Dear Kuru, As a new contributer to Wikipedia, I am appalled by your characterization of my contribution to the Glen Beck page as "Vandalism." Every element of my small contribution to the section devoted to the subsection, "Glenn Beck on Headline News." was factual and pertinent to the topic. What you may consider "Vandalism" will no doubt be regarded as honest and worthy commentary by many others. In fact, my insertion is merely a collection of pointed observations by an objective and unbiased viewer who had never heard of Glenn Beck before two days ago and could therefore have not held any previous opinion on him as a broadcaster one way or another, as opposed to someone like you who seems to be motivated by a distinct political agenda and affinity for Mr. Beck's extremist views. Through my addition to this entry, I was seeking merely to add a deeper perspective and analysis to the extraordinary circumstances under which a major news organization with a reputation for objectivity would hire such an inflammatory persona to fill their most watched newshour.
An intent to disparage Mr. Beck or create vandalism on this site would have included the use of abusive language, indiscriminant commentary, and extensive changing of any of the ten subcategories or frames prior to the section devoted to "Glenn Beck on Headline News." Instead I limited my comments to a only few sentences devoted to the reasons why CNN picked up this controversial host that was literally buried within the body of the entire article in the eleventh subsection, and addressed an area of expertise which I am qualified to contribute.
As someone truly alarmed by the decline of our nation's civility, morality and decency, my entry is a heartfelt contribution which no doubt runs contrary to much of the prevalent negative and biased political thought that dominates our nation and the irrational hopes expressed by Mr. Beck and his supporters for further war in the Middle East. Just because you do not agree with my contribution, I think you are being completely abusive to the spirit of Wikipedia, by engaging me in an "edit war" though your continued removal of my contribution and am writing to inform you that I intend to take this matter up with other editors at Wikipedia, who may question the political biases behind your ungracious actions, which from my perspective, are abusive and undemocratic. sincerely, Robert Schoen
If you need to get in touch with me, I am Robert Schoen schoenrobert@hotmail.com 24.252.98.130 21:48, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
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I think I've done all I'm going to be able to today; I have to run off to a meeting now. Answers. AaronSw 23:12, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
my answers a bit more delayed because of hardware crash
i am sorry, i am late, my harddisk died :-( anyway, better late than never, so here are my replies... thanks for patiently reminding me btw :-) oscar 16:35, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
Have finished working on my answers
Just want you to know that I just got your questions and I am working on my responses. Thank you. Alex756 02:19, 31 August 2006 (UTC) I just emailed you a link to my answers. Thanks. Alex756 05:40, 31 August 2006 (UTC). If you did not get the email here are two links: User:Alex756/questions and w:meta:User_talk:Alex756. Alex756 23:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
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