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PokerTracker image

Does the {{clear}} command solve your concern with the image at PokerTracker?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 16:05, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

John Douglas (architect)

You may have noticed that this was successful at FAC and is now a FA. Many thanks for your help in getting it there. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 08:33, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Socrates Hotchkiss Tryon, Sr.

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BorgQueen (talk) 08:35, 23 June 2009 (UTC)

rhyolite, nevada, u.s.a.

hey, just a quick heads up to let you know i've uploaded some pd-usa-pre-1923 media relating to the town.

in addition to the mine 3 panel panorama, there's a plat/map from 1907-8, & a couple of general views of the place, from the same period. will add more photos as/when i have time; don't really have time to place them on the article properly right now, tho (& the map & mine 3 panel should likely both be re-sized/smaller)

if you want to play with layout, etc. go right ahead

hope you like the new/old images anyway; i think they'll add something to the piece

cheers

Lx 121 (talk) 11:30, 24 June 2009 (UTC)

hey; sry i haven't had much time for wikip & i'm behind on my correspondence. glad the image thing got sorted out; sry i kno you edited the single panel, didnt meant to step on your toes.

side issue: can we determine if the town in the right b/g actually is Rhyolite (or one of it's neighbours)? if it is rhyolite, that should be noted in the caption; but i didn't want to add it, without being 100% sure.

re: other pictures. i am/will be uploading more historic photos of rhyolite in its prime-to-pre 1923 (US public domain cutoff date). if you check the rhyolite stuff on wmc, there is now a town plat map (pdf & png) from 1908, & 2 general views of the town from the same era. i'll be adding something like a dozen+ more photos mostly of specific subjects in rhyolite, mostly from the same era, all from pre-1923. i honestly don't have the time to work on photolayouts for this article right now; i just swapped the mine photos because it was an easy fit. if you guys want to have a go; feel free. the new material will (hopefully) be uploaded by month's end.

Lx 121 (talk) 18:24, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

ha! it happens. looks good otherwise. i moved the retouched version to a new file name; want to keep the original as good archival procedure, also as a historic document; it has value as an original 1907 3 panel panorama. changed the link of the rhyolite article to connect with the new filename. didn't know you were a specialist in photo restoration; do you do it much? have you got more of your resto work on wiki? Lx 121 (talk) 12:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

re: image formats: from what i've read on wikip (Graphics_file_format, JPEG, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Phalaenopsis_JPEG.png , & Portable_Network_Graphics) .png has 2 advantages,:

1. the format is open source.

2. it is better as a lossless compression format; especially for (repeated) editing work.

one article recommended that for jpeg, it is best to only use that format for the final version of an image, after all edits are completed.

my take on it is that:

1. .png is slightly "preferred" on wikimedia, both as an open source format , & as a lossless edit-friendly one (it's not quite as universal as jpeg, but almost all modern web browsers can handle it; at least as many as can handle .ogg).

2. whatever format is used, the emphasis should be on loss-less data compression, because image quality degrades if you use lossy compression & do repeated edits. (or if users of the file want to edit further, or create derivative works)

sry for the point form, i'm a little too tired to make tidy prose atm. ha

Lx 121 (talk) 18:08, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

quick note, before i go on an extended break: (just noticed) there are photos of c.m. schwab from 1901 & 1911 in his wmc cat:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Charles_Michael_Schwab

the one we have in place @ rhyolite is from 1919.

i have no strong opinions, but the 1901 image does look more "period", & is close(st?) in date to his rhyolite, nv/S&M mine investment activities (depending on how you count) & better than the 1911 image (personal opinion)

Lx 121 (talk) 19:45, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

...in his youth, his taste in neckties was a bit quirkier too, apparently XD

Lx 121 (talk) 19:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)

done see what you think? i included the date info, because i'm a finicky perfectionist that way; change/swap it back as you think best. i'm going to try to escape my computer for the evening, have a good rest-of-sunday

Lx 121 (talk)

hey; i was thinking about something tillman said on the rhy. talkpage, about how it was nice to be able to zoom in on the details in the mine photo... was wondering if you'd mind if i switched it back to the max-res version, until you get a chance to do a resto @ max res? it does look good without the wide seams; but if somebody actually cares enough to click on the image, it's nice for them to be able to really see the details. let me know what you think, whenever you get this? Lx 121 (talk) 14:43, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Illahe, Oregon

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BorgQueen (talk) 02:35, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Peer review of Sustainability article

Further to your peer review of the Sustainability article in March, we have worked through your comments and made many changes. We went though a period of disruptive editing. However, that seems to be in the past now. There have been major overhauls of the lead and several other sections. Would you be willing to take a second look at it? If that is not generally done, we can either re-submit for peer review or go directly to FA review. Please let me know your thoughts. Sunray (talk) 06:40, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for your response on my talk page. And thanks for your help with the article. It has been most valuable to us. Sunray (talk) 18:38, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

I have a quick question, though. We weren't sure whether we had to source everything in the lead. Some editors were of the opinion that since it was a summary, there was no need for citations, other than one quote. Thoughts? Sunray (talk) 01:52, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

File:Ioneoregongrainelevator.jpg

Nice pic! Katr67 (talk) 00:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

Boz rates the day a Perfect Ten

Greetings and salutations to members of WikiProject Oregon. We hear bye announce another Collaboration Of The Week. Thanks to anyone who participated in updating any FA articles and for the improvements on FLIR Systems. This week we have two requests: former Blazer Sidney Wicks, and a key historical event with Oregon land fraud scandal. Again, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:33, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

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Thanks!

I meant to thank you earlier, and I apologize for not doing just that, but thank you for all your helpful work with OWH! Hmm, that makes two favors that I owe you now. Feel free to cash them in whenever you're in need. :) Take care, María (habla conmigo) 19:39, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Peer review

Many thanks for the detailed peer review on Virtual camera system, it really helped improve the article! Laurent (talk) 10:47, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

The Hardy Boys

Dear Finetooth, since you were kind enough to peer review this article, I thought I would ask your advice. There's a big dispute going on over at Talk: The Hardy Boys re: the cultural impact section, specifically, whether the sources that talk about gay readers should be included. I would really appreciate your input, if you have the time. Ricardiana (talk) 18:50, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

York peer review

Many thanks for your detailed peer review of the York article. Such attention to detail must have been time consuming and I am truly grateful for your advice. Your comments have been noted and will help us to carry out improvements. Thanks again.--Harkey (talk) 15:03, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

PR talk page

No problem - Brian does the review stats (he looks at the archives for the PRs closed each month) and one month you beat me (congrats!). I do try and do a more detailed review the closer something is to FAC.

I have also thought about writing a "Common problems (issues?) seen at Peer review" article for the Signpost and listing the most common issues seen. Then perhaps adding a link to that to my boilerplate for pasting into weak articles for further reference. Off the top of my head I would have: Lead, refs, images (lots on each of these three), short paragraphs, failing to provide context for the reader, writing from an in-universe perspective for fiction articles, perhaps header issues, not sure what else. WOuld you be interested in working on something like that? If we do this, I would ask Brianboulton too. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks! By the way, I have some boilerplate at User:Ruhrfisch/PR that I started because I also got tired of typing the same things over and over. I will ask Brian about this article too. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:37, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Star Trek

Finetooth. Thank you so much for the through and thoughtful review. Your edits have been very helpful, and your advise has been extremely valuable. Thanks again for all your hard work. Maybe I will try and do a peer review sometime for another article. Oldag07 (talk) 04:30, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Missing talk page template

I fixed it just now - they removed it when they nominated the article at GAN. I usally look at the talk history and see if they had a notice or not (some manage to start a PR without a talk page notice - not sure how). It is never a problem to readd a link to the proper PR, so I just added {{Peer review|archive=1}} again. Thanks for the heads up, and for all the reviews! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:24, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

My recent peer review of Joey Hamilton

I recently reviewed this article about this baseball player. Here is my review and the editor's responses. I think the article ought to be looked at by someone who knows a bit about baseball; if you could look at it in a few days' time (backlog and other commitments permitting) I'd be most grateful. Brianboulton (talk) 23:19, 15 July 2009 (UTC)

PokerTracker

The reviewer was patient, diligent and helpful and we got it through. Thanks for your advice.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:30, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

History of Florida State University

Thank you very much for the feedback regarding the History of Florida State University article. It was exactly what I needed and wanted and you have helped to substantially improve the work. Yes, the references are a hodge-podge as I come and go from Wikipedia as my workload in the real world varies and I forget over time how exactly to correctly include references. I really was more interested in the material and figured I could clean up the presentation later. You are a great credit to Wikipedia! Sirberus (talk) 14:24, 18 July 2009 (UTC)

List of College of William & Mary people

Just wanted to let you know that I finished editing List of College of William & Mary people and await your input. I honestly don't know if there's much else that can be done to it to make it FL worthy – it's pretty darn good if I say so myself. I'm also posting this same message to Brianboulton. Jrcla2 09:20, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

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Amador Valley High School

Thank you for your peer review on Amador Valley High School. I have addressed all of the issues from your peer review comments. I would appreciate a second look at the article to point out what I have missed and how I could have addressed your input better. Deltawk (talk) 17:48, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Is this ready for FA?

Hi Finetooth, Thank you again for your time looking over Amador Valley High School and giving second comments. I've have look over your comments and have made necessary changes and replacements. Do you believe that this article is ready for FAR? My major concern is that the Athletics section does not satisfy the comprehensive criteria under FAC. 131.243.99.229 (talk) 21:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC) Deltawk (talk) 03:24, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

I also asked this same question on the peer review page. Wikipedia:Peer_review/Amador_Valley_High_School/archive1 131.243.99.229 (talk) 21:35, 22 July 2009 (UTC) Deltawk (talk) 03:24, 23 July 2009 (UTC)

McDonald's Cycle Center

I just found a few more articles. I will let you know when I have finished incorporating them. Wait to take another look until after I do.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 15:47, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

OK. Finetooth (talk) 16:30, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

I have added everything I could find.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 01:54, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

I'll have another look tomorrow. Finetooth (talk) 02:18, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

As the PR reviewer, I am letting you know this is now at WP:FAC, FYI.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM) 02:27, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

99p Stores

Hey, thanks for peer reviewing 99p Stores; your comments were very constructive and useful, and they certainly will allow me to improve and develop the article further! Bungle ^(talk • contribs) 17:39, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Peer Review Manchester, Maryland

Thank you for your thoughts, they are very helpful Mopenstein (talk) 12:12, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Peer review

You carried out a peer review on John Douglas (architect) which, to my delight, led to its success at FAC. I wonder if you would be interested in having a look at a related list here which I am working up towards submitting it as a FLC. Many thanks. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 15:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the review and for your helpful suggestions. I will change the title as you advise and deal with the rest; I had been anxious about over-linking, but if you think the links are needed, no problem. Peter I. Vardy (talk) 18:57, 2 August 2009 (UTC)

Now the Front Page FA?

Way to go. :-) -- llywrch (talk) 05:09, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

My congratulations too! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 11:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Raul works in mysterious ways ;-) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:13, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Frederick Van Voorhies Holman

I saw Forest Park on the main page, congrats. I then saw the above guy, who is notable as an author about John McLoughlin, the OHS bit mentioned in the FP article, and apparently was responsible for the nickname Rose City for Portland. If you are interested I have a PDF with most of this info and a nice picture, as the Rose City bit would be good DYK material. Normally I would, and eventually I will if no one else does, but I've got other plans for the next couple months. Let me know. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:43, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Go ahead and send me an email so I can send you back the PDF, plus a little bonus material for it. As to FAs, it would be nice to get a person as I think the current people Oregon FAs are of limited Oregon connection. So, Charles McNary and Mark Hatfield are the two GAs that have been expanded to the level of FA and I think just need some refinements. Either one works for me, and thanks for the assistance. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:02, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Email sent. I'll look over McNary and Hatfield and choose or flip a coin. Finetooth (talk) 22:27, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Just sent the email, but its 37MB, so it might take a while. If it takes too long or fails I do some work to shrink the file sizes. Aboutmovies (talk) 22:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

The big file did fail, but it wouldn't let me cancel. I just forwarded the second one again but with the file info, though it looks like you figured it out. Aboutmovies (talk) 02:37, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Daredevil

It looks like our Daredevil (Marvel Comics) article was copied on June 28 2008 to the other Wiki, not the other way around. Please, if you are willing, continue the review. Thanks! BOZ (talk) 12:57, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

De nada! I wasn't mad, it was just a simple mistake. Now, if you'd been a tad more accusatory, or worse, well then... :) But no biggie! BOZ (talk) 16:39, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Wright Brothers

Thanks for your thoughtful and thorough review. I'll be referring to it repeatedly. DonFB (talk) 04:20, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Frederick Van Voorhies Holman

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Oregon DYKs

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Peer Review of Zoroastrianism

Could you please peer review the article Zoroastrianism. The archive can be found here. Mr.TrustWorthy----Got Something to Tell Me? 06:07, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Peer review for 2008 Maryland Terrapins football team

Thanks for the in-depth peer review. Your comments were very helpful. Strikehold (talk) 06:12, 9 August 2009 (UTC)

Daredevil peer review

Thanks for reviewing the article! So many points. Thanks! -- A ^talk/_contribs 17:28, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

York Park peer review

Thankyou very much. I'll get to work straight away. Aaroncrick (talk) 05:42, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

PR rudeness

In response to my note that I would review Snow patrol discography, five days after its PR nomination, the nominator responded "About time!". I have told him to find another reviewer - I'm not prepared to give review time in those circumstances. Depending on how - or if - the nominator responds, it might be worth sending him a short note explaining that PR reviewers are hard-pressed editors who nevertheless commit themselves, entirely voluntarily, to helping other editors improve their articles. If he wants help from the review process then he/she needs to show respect to the people who do it. (I have copied this to Ruhrfisch) Brianboulton (talk) 16:59, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Later: Happily, I have resolved this with the editor concerned, so no action needed. I may have overracted, it's been a bad day. Brianboulton (talk) 18:41, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Welcome back, welcome back, welcome back, Mr. COTW

Howdy after a long message absence to those of WikiProject Oregon. To answer a common question, no you did not get removed from the COTW notification list, I was just too busy to send out the notification for the last change. So, thank you to all those who helped improve Central Oregon and Mount Jefferson, as well as those who added infoboxes and adopted a governor. For this edition of the COTW, we have partly by request and in honor of the return of college football, Duck football and Beaver football. If you are a fan of neither, maybe go back and work on a governor or add infoboxes this time around. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:27, 15 August 2009 (UTC)

Nestucca River

Good day Finetooth, I just removed a great deal of apparently copied and pasted content from this article. If you could turn your expert river-article-improving skills to this at some point, it could really use some attention. Cheers! Katr67 (talk) 22:29, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Re Columbia River

Thanks - I knew something was up from all of the recent edits, but had missed the FAC nomination. I will look at the article and weigh in - also need to look at Aliso Creek, which is languishing in FAC. Take care, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 04:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I started reading Aliso Creek and think it needs at least a copyedit - I have already said I will work on that on the FAC page. Just FYI (if you want to wait). Thanks, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

It is something I also need to do - of the 18 FAs I have been a major contributor to, only 2 have alt text (and Awadewit and Niagara did almost all of the work there). The alt text viewer does not work for the Geobox alt text, not sure why. Aliso is not attracting reviews, so if you do a get a chance I am sure it would be apppreciated. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 19:19, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

I think it is because the Geobox can have more than one image, so it needs a unique name for the alt text. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:58, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

Ruhrfisch, glad you were alerted -- I'm actually thinking I should alert everybody who's been involved, as it seems maybe a number of people have missed the FAC. Finetooth, I think you just undid all the USGS fixin' I did -- I had opted for one spelled out version followed by abbreviation, and it looks like you went the other way. (Though I suppose it's likely I missed some.) No biggy, I just thought it was funny :) Thanks for all your hard work, you've been taking on some of the most tedious stuff and handling it very nicely, and I really appreciate it!! -Pete (talk) 06:14, 2 September 2009 (UTC)

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PR article

I took a stab at starting something for the Dispatch section of the Signpost here (which I mentioned to you long ago). Any ideas or contributions are welcome. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 14:55, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

Emporia, Kansas

Thanks for the compliment about the Emporia, Kansas, photo. I'm visiting friends in Kansas and am taking a few pictures along the way. - Ichabod (talk) 01:24, 6 September 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Peer review/Raymore Drive/archive1

Thanks so much for your comment. I fixed almost everything but I have a few more questions there. I also added maps, so that could benefit a second lookthrough. Thanks a lot! Maxim_(talk) 14:37, 7 September 2009 (UTC)

The Rivers

Finetooth, I can't thank you enough for your attention to detail throughout the Columbia River FA. I think we still have a bit of work to do, but I think it's pretty well confined to a couple or a few specific paragraphs. Hopefully Pfly can take a look, as he seems to have the best handle on the geology stuff. But really, I can't imagine dealing with all of the details you've taken care of...it's been an incredible help, as always!

I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed with this at the moment, but I'll take a look at Tryon Creek soon. As for the Columbia Basin, are you thinking of keeping it as a single article both for the entire watershed, and for central Washington? I think that's probably the best way to do it, but it'll be kinda tricky. But, I was thinking maybe just moving over the existing "watershed" section, merging with existing content, and summarizing on the Columbia River article might be a good way to approach it...interested in your thoughts. -Pete (talk) 19:14, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

I've been meaning to thank you too, especially for working and fixing up the various non-RS citations I had added to the article. Thanks! Pfly (talk) 02:47, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Klaxons and confetti...can't wait! I'm not doing the PA nomination though, I'll leave that to you :) -Pete (talk) 18:26, 9 September 2009 (UTC)

Achtung Baby

You did a very thorough review of the Indonesian killings of 1965-66 article. Choosing a slightly differnt - OK, very different type of article, would you be interested in doing such a review of Achtung Baby? I have just nominated it for peer review. In my experience, attention is often not given to articles in peer review, but every now and then, one does get a great review. I would really like to get non-pop culture editors to look at it. Sometimes I cringe at the language used in music articles, and having the eyes of a non-music writer could be very valuable. cheers --Merbabu (talk) 14:51, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

PS, I did follow up on most of the suggestions you gave for the Indonesian killings article - but have not finished the changes. many thanks --Merbabu (talk) 14:54, 12 September 2009 (UTC)

Against the Giants

Thank you for your peer review; I have addressed most of your comments, and posted questions on the rest. :) BOZ (talk) 00:52, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

Copy Edit

Hi, I was wondering if you have time to do a copy edit on Davenport, Iowa. I'm almost ready to renominate it for FA, and need some good copy editing. Thank you! CTJF83Talk 20:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

Ok! Thank you very much for your help!! CTJF83Talk 19:24, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I did the best I can with the images. What would you do with the overlap here? The text is just too short for the image. CTJF83Talk 19:09, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

Is this image usable on Wikipedia? CTJF83Talk 18:37, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

Re Update

Thanks for the update - the new camera sounds very nice. Have fun taking pictures. I am working on Upper Pine Bottom State Park and hope to get it to PR soon - it is one of the three smallest state parks in Penna. and is today little more than a parking lot and a few picnic tables with (wait for it) a nice little creek, but I think there might be enough there to get it to FA (which would probably be the silliest FA ever).

I have thought of reformulating the Dispatch in terms of the actual problems seen, so "A common problem is a very short lead. The lead can be up to four paragraphs long and should be a summary of the whole article..." Not sure if that would work better or not. I have also noticed a drift in the MOS - and am aware I need to add ALT text to many articles. I think one of the best ways to prepare an article for FAC is to participate in a few first. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 20:13, 16 September 2009 (UTC)

PS I was also sorry Aliso Creek did not make it and have offered to look at it again at Shannon's talk page. I think your comments made it much better. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:23, 17 September 2009 (UTC)

Nice to see you've also caught the covered bridge bug - nice photos of and article on Hayden Bridge. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:04, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I will be glad to look at Tyron Creek for PR, though I have a fairly full plate at the moment, so it might take me a few days (3 other PRs, a FAC review, and some maps). I am somewhat amazed at the recentness of Hayden Bridge (1918) - the three surviving Sullivan County bridges were all built in 1850, for example. Your talk page is on my watchlist, so your user page is too and I saw Hayden Bridge in new articles or new photos and took a look (does this meet the definition of wikistalking?) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 16:01, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I made a few more comments on the PR after your (edit conflict). I think it looks very good and please let me know when it is at FAC as I will be glad to support. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 18:54, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Finetooth. You have new messages at Katr67's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

I don't usually use these, but I wanted to make sure you saw my reply. Cheers! Katr67 (talk) 21:48, 18 September 2009 (UTC)

I've never used one, but I'm always happy to learn new things. I'm saving this one so I can imitate it in the future. Finetooth (talk) 19:14, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

DYK for Hayden Bridge

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Goodbye summer, hello Dolly!

Hello WikiProject Oregon member, it is time for another Collaboration of the Week. First, thanks to those who helped out the last few weeks improving the Portland Hempstalk Festival and the Munson Valley Historic District articles. This week we have by request Rasheed Wallace and the Oregon Zoo. The later should have lots of recent news with the new/old exhibit opening. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:21, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

Pennsylvania State Capitol

Since you had helped out with Kinzua Bridge, I was wondering whether you could take look at the Pennsylvania State Capitol at PR. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^Don't give up the ship 19:59, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

It's been awhile but I believe taken care of your initial comments. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^Don't give up the ship 00:57, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks. The {{Infobox Canal}} used in Leiper Canal wasn't set up for alt text, but it is now. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^Don't give up the ship 20:14, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Thought I'd let you know, Pennsylvania State Capitol got its star today. Thanks for the peer review and the support. ​​​​​​​​Niagara ​​^Don't give up the ship 04:07, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Chatteris peer review

Thank you for your very thorough and helpful review. I look forward to implementing your suggestions! Rob (talk) 23:40, 26 September 2009 (UTC)

Alumin(i)um

I reinstated my edit to the spelling of this element per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (chemistry); we use the IUPAC spellings for element names. --John (talk) 03:18, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Columbia River

Congrats on bringing this up to FA. Columbia River and the Gorge are undoubtfully among the most scenic natural environments in the US, and they now have an equally fine article to complement it. Dabomb87 (talk) 23:54, 29 September 2009 (UTC)

My warmest congratulations too! (IN case you had not seen the log diff) Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 00:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Klaxons AND confetti. :-) Pfly (talk) 01:41, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

You are very welcome - I was glad to play a small part. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:26, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Congrats! Sorry about the East/West typo; I was trying to write too quickly - and thanks for correcting, Awickert (talk) 04:27, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Tryon Creek

I will take a look at the FAC in a day or two - have to reread the article. I did look quickly - should there be a footnote somewhere that some sources erroneously say it is 7 miles long? Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

Rogue River

I took some pictures of the Rogue River near Indian Mary Park yesterday (they're posted here). Feel free to use them if you want to, and I'm okay with it if you don't. Also, since you are amazing at writing river articles, could you take a look at Little Butte Creek if you have time? I started it the other day and I think it could become quite a good article if done properly. Thanks, LittleMountain5 23:16, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

I also just noticed that you deserve one of these:

		WikiProject Oregon Silver Badge
		This user has earned a Silver Badge for contributing 10 Oregon related DYKs! Congrats! LittleMountain5 15:51, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

Project 86

Thank you for taking the time to review the article. -- Noj r (talk) 00:36, 7 October 2009 (UTC)

Music of Canada

hello there i know its been a some time but thank you for the review on the article... I am sorry i did not notice sooner for i have been writing a new article Aboriginal peoples in Canada after we get our GA review passed ..i will get back to the music article and get it ready for a GA review ...again tks man

		The Invisible Barnstar
		Awarded to Finetooth for not seeking recognition or reward for his many peer reviews.Buzzzsherman (talk) 04:11, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Poundland peer review

Thanks for taking the time to write a peer review on the Poundland article. Whilst by your own admission the review wasn't thorough line by line, I think you made sufficient comments and suggestions for it to be of benefit, so many thanks for that. Bungle ^(talk • contribs) 21:22, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations!

Just saw Tryon Creek made FA! Well done! Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:51, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

You are very welcome, thanks for all the PR backlog reviews - I have been a real slacker there lately. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Osteitis fibrosa cystica

Thank you for the peer review: I hadn't even thought to check the links for the images. Strombollii (talk) 23:48, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

Merry Columbus Day 2 all and 2 all a goodnite, beware of large windstorms bearing gifts

Greetings fellow WikiProject Oregon member, time to uncork a fine wine as it is once again time for the Collaboration of the Week. As always, thank you to those who helped out the last few weeks improving the Oregon Zoo, the Rasheed Wallace, Willamette Bridges, and the Vanport articles. This week we have by request Jim Paxson and Films shot in Oregon. The later can easily be improved just by adding some sources. As always, click here to opt out of these messages, or click here to make a suggestion for a future COTW. And with Halloween fast approaching, remember that pennies really suck as a “treat” and you can expect toilet paper and or eggs on your residence for your “trick”. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

For some of your Oregon work

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		You are hereby granted this shiny object for all your hard work at WikiProject Oregon! Another award for all your FA work in Oregon. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:22, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Speaking of a certain Senator McNary, I've gone ahead add listed it at FA. Now's as good of time as any. Thanks for your work on it. Aboutmovies (talk) 09:40, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

My brain is shot at trying to format a complex citation. Can you take a shot at re-doing the KeizerTimes ref, there is additional info at the bottom of the article, which should help improve the "high qualitinessness" of the source. Then its time to go to the library this week. Thanks. Aboutmovies (talk) 08:49, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

Request

Hello. Was looking through my articles and remembered you'd peer reviewed Silent Alarm and A Weekend in the City. Never got round to saying thanks properly. So, cheers. My most recent nom was Remain in Light and I asked User:Brianboulton to comment. If you're feeling left out, the article is now at FAC and I'd love to hear what you think. RB88 (T) 19:03, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

Lock Haven

I'd be more than happy to take a look at Lock Haven for you. If my parents hadn't met there, I wouldn't be here to do it. If you don't hear back from me about it, soon, I have probably forgotten about it. I don't think I'll forget, but if I do, don't hesitate to ask. Thanks for the compliment on the Jersey Shore pic, I had a good time that day wandering around my old stomping grounds taking pics of places here and there. Also congrats on the latest FA. Very nice work. When I first saw that a place called Tryon Creek I assumed that it was in North Carolian where you'll find Tryon Palace. Dincher (talk) 20:04, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

No problem with moving the review. I wasn't sure where to put it in the first place. My family settled in Limestone Township and later moved to Williamsport and South Williamsport. I love the area and really miss it alot. Wiki helps me with missing it and learning about it too. Dincher (talk) 03:02, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the dab lesson. That's what I thought they were. Tons of flickr pics of Lock Haven here. They're easy to upload with this free tool. (In case you don't know about it). Dincher (talk) 03:33, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

The flickr tool is very, very nice. I sometimes use it for my on pics from flickr. I check flickr regulary for PA and PA state park pics. Glad you like it. Dincher (talk) 03:56, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

When would you like for me to do a "blue pen edit" of the Lock Haven article? Dincher (talk) 02:00, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I'll wait until you're ready to send it to GA. Glad you like the flickr too. It's really, really handy. Dincher (talk) 19:52, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

I uploaded a new version of File:Clinton County Pennsylvania Courthouse.JPG (may have to WP:BYC to see it) and tried a panorama at File:Clinton County Pennsylvania Courthouse 2.JPG. Have a few more LH pix to upload eventually too, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 01:37, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

OK, the ten most recent pics here are all of Lock Haven. Added three to the University page (as it had none of the campus) already. Enjoy, Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 03:08, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

I am printing it now and will give it the blue pen edit. Dincher (talk) 21:10, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Done. Dincher (talk) 22:27, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Considering the trolley source issue, I guess you'd have to stop at GA. Dincher (talk) 22:51, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

You might want to ask User:Ealdgyth about it. Have you seen the NRHP forms for the historic district, Heisey House, and archeological site? I also have Wallace's "Indian Paths in Pennsylvania" which has some on the paths that met at the Great Island if you want. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 23:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks: Free State of Galveston

Thanks so much for the review on Free State of Galveston. Very helpful!

I had a few questions on a couple of the comments. Please don't feel obligated to respond. I only mention these because I am not sure what to do with those specific comments without further clarification.

• Some of the references are incomplete - You are right that I need accessdates and ISBNs on some of these. However, you mention some of the "Handbook of Texas" references as requiring author/publisher information. "Handbook of Texas" is a standard template for creating citations for articles from this TSHA publication. I could avoid the template and cite directly but my understanding is that this template is what articles are supposed to use for citing the HOT.

• The postcard ... licensing information looks contradictory. - I didn't post these images so I have no direct stake in whether they are legal or not. Are you suggesting that I shouldn't include them in the article or what?

Thanks again.

--Mcorazao (talk) 16:03, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

FYI: I have worked through most of your suggestions. I am getting feedback from the originators of those images (the Hotel Galvez image the editor assures me is legit).

Since the GA requests are severely backlogged I went ahead and submitted the article figuring that I can resolve the few remaining items quickly.

--Mcorazao (talk) 19:39, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

I worked through the rest of the suggestions and posted responses on the Peer Review page. I think I have addressed all of them. On the images, I believe that there have been adequate answers on their legitimacy (including the editors adding information on why they are legitimate).

Did you want to review my changes further or shall I close the Peer Review (leaving the GA nomination)? Thanks. --Mcorazao (talk) 16:27, 14 October 2009 (UTC)

An Oregon creek for later

Here's a likely candidate for an article: Mission Creek (Marion County, Oregon) (or perhaps Mission Creek (Willamette River)), linked from St. Paul, Oregon. Probably lots of good early Oregon history that could be added to that one. And belated congrats for all your recent FAs and such. As always, when I see you're on the job, I have little cause to worry. Cheers! Katr67 (talk) 17:47, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Snake River

Hi Finetooth. (I know Aliso Creek isn't done yet but I've been working with that as well.) I noticed recently that Columbia River became a FA. It would be nice if the Snake River article could also be lifted to GA or FA, as it is the most important tributary. I have some things prepared at sandbox 2, it would be appreciated if you could help decide which sections and references could be placed on the Snake River article. Thanks, Shannon^talk _contribs ^sign!_:) 02:46, 19 October 2009 (UTC)

Bull Run River

Hello Finetooth. I'd be happy to collaborate with you on the Bull Run Article. I have full access to the watershed and I can take pictures anywhere that you'd like. Here is a link to a GIS map that shows the boundary between Multnomah and Hood River County. I'd post the full map but it is exempt from public disclosure under the sunshine law, and our policy isn't to give it out. Let me know what I can help you with and I'd be glad to do it. I'm pretty knowlegeable about the geography and physical features, and protection (fire and enforcmeent) for the watershed. Dwight911 (talk) 03:43, 21 October 2009 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks - it was a lot of work to make that map (the other two were easier) but I was also really pleased with how it turned out. Of to finish a PR and write two start articles on moths that eat oak leaves. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 02:18, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Peer review

can you leave comments at Seth MacFarlane artical's pr.--Pedro J. ^the rookie 21:47, 29 October 2009 (UTC)

Treaty with the Rogue River, 1853

Actually, that is its name. That's the pattern to the way the Government named these things. See the list I've compiled in my sandbox: User:Katr67/Sandbox. I've also added it to Joel Palmer. (I left the dates out of the titles unless there were two treaties with the same name, as with the one with the Rogue River Indians [sic]). See also: List of United States treaties#U.S. Native American treaties. If the article ever gets written, numerous alternative titles will certainly need to be redirected to it. This all stemmed from my work clearing up the confusion on the front-page-featured Kalapuya Treaty, which actually described two different treaties. I made several redirects for that one, likely there are several more. If you disagree with my reasoning, be sure you clean up all the links. Cheers, Katr67 (talk) 20:05, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

I happened upon this comment and without knowing the context can say Katr67 is right. Here's links to the original treaties, from Kappler, as definitive a source as there is: TREATY WITH THE ROGUE RIVER, 1853, TREATY WITH THE ROGUE RIVER, 1854, and AGREEMENT WITH THE ROGUE RIVER, 1853. Apparently the US government called the Indians the "Rogue River tribe", so as treaties with, for example, the Cherokee, are called "Treaty with the Cherokee, [date]"--without the word "tribe" in there, so the "Rogue River tribe" got a "Treaty with the Rogue River". There are other, similar examples, like Treaty with the Eel River. Pfly (talk) 09:42, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Oop, I see Katr67's sandbox already had these links. Time for bed. Pfly (talk) 09:44, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Paul Bako

Thanks for your thorough review and encouraging comments on this article. Would you mind re-visiting the peer review page? I've left some comments there that you might be able to clarify. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:50, 2 November 2009 (UTC)

Tax revolt in critical care at a hospital near you

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Franklin's lost expedition

I'm simply trying to link ships to their pages and things like that... if they don't belong, take 'em out... I have no objections... Magus732 (talk) 02:52, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

I would link it directly, but the appropriate page doesn't exist, so I don't know what else to do, since I don't have any sources or info to create the page... Magus732 (talk) 03:12, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Thanks... I'll see what I can come up with... who knows, maybe I'll get lucky and find a copy of the captain's private journal or something... Magus732 (talk) 03:31, 4 November 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, Finetooth. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Peer review/2007 Pan American Games medal table/archive1.
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Cannibaloki 22:00, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

Hi, [please] later take a look at Wikipedia:Peer review/Cavalera Conspiracy/archive1. You saw what happened with the list 2007 Pan American Games medal table? I think I'll close this peer review.--Cannibaloki 05:27, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

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