User talk:Exdg77

May 2023

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Tharoor was a source material for the page on Jawaharlal Nehru before I expanded the article. I would like to see a discussion where there is a consensus that Tharoor is to be avoided? In addition, Tharoor follows scholarly material, including Nehru's autobiography and other works. If there, indeed, is a consensus to avoid Tharoor, I can put those sources instead. In any case, Thaoor is not the only source I cited; I include other relevant scholarly material. Lastly, the lead has been expanded to reflect the main body of contents. I can't agree with your justifications for reverting my edits. Exdg77 (talk) 19:58, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

I have started a discussion on Talk:Jawaharlal_Nehru. You will be happy to know that Tharoor has been completely replaced wherever I cited him with scholarly alternatives. Exdg77 (talk) 03:27, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Aman Kumar Goel ^(Talk) 19:47, 29 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for letting me know about this, much appreciated. Exdg77 (talk) 08:14, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Thanks for letting me know. I will respond there soon. Exdg77 (talk) 21:22, 30 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Very well, thanks for letting me know. Exdg77 (talk) 03:25, 31 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Nehru

Removed from the Talk:Nehru page and pasted here, as this is more personal.

You shouldn't make edit runs over long stretches of prose with no edit summaries to speak of. Contrast that with the two sections I edited for prose (only) and the detailed summaries. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:56, 25 January 2025 (UTC) I've just read your edits: There are errors.[reply]

• Your first sentence is, "Jawaharlal Nehru was born on 14 November 1889 in Allahabad, British India, as the eldest child and the only son of Motilal Nehru (1861-1931) and Swarup Rani Nehru (1868-1938)"

• No one is born as the eldest child; that is an epithet others bestow on a child when siblings appear. :*Similarly, no one is born as the only son (for the same reasons).

Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:05, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• @Exdg77: I hope you don't mind this criticism; it is not a criticism of you, only constructive help, so you and others may be mindful of some things.
• Second sentence: "He was born into an affluent Kashmiri Pandit family, which included his two younger sisters, Vijaya Lakshmi (1900-1990), and Krishna (1907-1967)."

• Being born into a family references the people already existing in the family, not those who will populate it later.
• The sisters, in any case, did not make the family affluent. Had you said, "... an affluent family, which included Jamsedjee Nusserwanji Tata, the Nawab of Hyderabad, and Maharaja of Kashmir," it would have made more logical sense.

Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:12, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

• Third sentence, "His father, Motilal, was a wealthy English-educated barrister who wanted to bring up his son in the model of an upper-class English gentleman."

• You can't raise someone "in a model." You could say, "in the manner of an upper-class young English gentleman." But that is not helpful either because it is not accurate. I'm sure Motilal had more complex motivations.

• Looking ahead at your other edits, I sense that you might be tackling too complicated material. If I were you, I would work on biographies of ordinary people for which there are only one or two sources. Then, I would submit that biography to WP:DYK and wait for suggestions for improvement from the referees. That is how I started life on Wikipedia. It is the best way forward. If you are interested, you could post on WT:INDIA and say you want to work on small-scale biographies and invite suggestions from editors there. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:39, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  All the best. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:42, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  Reply to your Talk:Nehru question. Yes, sandbox and talk page would be certainly better, but at WT:DYK you would get more focused suggestions (made by people who are more experienced). But I do think that you should start with less complex biographical material (than Nehru's); otherwise, you might be setting yourself up for disappointment. All of us began with simple articles and then worked our way up. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:52, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Fowler&fowler: Hi , thanks for taking the time to offer advice, this is much appreciated. I will go through your feedback and consider how I can contribute. Exdg77 (talk) 08:45, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Very welcome Fowler&fowler«Talk» 17:52, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]