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Proposed deletion of Westbury Street Holdings

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Julian Richer

You have removed external links for the charities that Julian has set up and maintains, which are referenced and cited in the article. I am confused as to why and would want these reinstated, as they have been included on this entry for years and were just added to. 88.151.154.237 (talk) 12:42, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

There were eight external links. Clearly too many. Readers can always use a search engine to find these websites. Please read WP:LINKFARM and Wikipedia:External links. I have copied this thread to Talk:Julian Richer Edwardx (talk) 13:22, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

Romesh Wadhwani page

I noticed the page for Romesh Wadhwani looks like it's out of date according to recent reports from CNBC, TIME, Forbes, and elsewhere. His LinkedIn profile shows him to be head of SAIGroup - https://www.linkedin.com/in/romesh-wadhwani/ Would it be okay to go in there and make some edits, or are there others I should check in with? TheChrisGale (talk) 08:46, 20 March 2024 (UTC)

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Why do I need a secondary source?

if I am providing a valid source for an update - why am I being told to add a secondary source. Does that mean the one I used does not provide enough? Aliperkins91 (talk) 15:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Aliperkins91 Thank you. A secondary source, not a second source. Please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, Wikipedia:Citing sources, and Wikipedia:Reliable sources. Edwardx (talk) 18:11, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

Yes I understand secondary source - but the one I provided was a PDF from the state secretaries website. So is that not enough to be a secondary source? Does it need to be an article with an author? 136.29.34.197 (talk) 14:57, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Please read WP:PSTS. Edwardx (talk) 15:09, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

Howard McCleod

Pinging you because of your past involvement with the article: an IP has appeared to make some edits that I have some COI concerns about at Howard McLeod. Perhaps you'd watchlist the article for a while? Russ Woodroofe (talk) 16:33, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. IT is on my watchlist (22,000 pages, but many are old AfDs). Have left a warning message at User talk:134.215.247.38. I have been getting better at leaving such messages, thanks to Wikipedia:Template index/User talk namespace. Edwardx (talk) 18:10, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

"serving as" non-neutral?

Hi, can you point me to the policy or discussion where it was determined that "serving as" is non-neutral language? cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 21:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, anastrophe. I am not aware of any discusssion, and it is not an easy thing to search for. It is a subject that I have been thinking of raising at Wikipedia talk:Neutral point of view or Wikipedia:Village pump. As for policy, perhaps WP:WIKIVOICE, "Prefer nonjudgmental language. A neutral point of view neither sympathizes with nor disparages its subject ..." I have largely been removing this sort of language from business biographies, especially as it is almost never found in the articles of the most prominent businesspeople. For example, rather than "John Doe serves as the CEO of XYZ Inc", a more neutral phrasing would be "John Doe is the CEO of XYZ Inc". With the added benefits of brevity and clarity. Just because the business press sometimes use "serves/serving as" does not make it encyclopaedic. I am also sceptical as to whether we should be using it for politicians and military personnel (where these are paid roles), but have avoided removing it in those cases as that may be more contentious. Edwardx (talk) 22:05, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Okay, but I'm still unclear in what way describing someone as serving a particular position or role is non-neutral - it doesn't sympathize with nor disparage the subject in any way that I can discern. Politicians and military personnel work within the broader scope of what is commonly and accurately characterized as "public service". With the exception of extremely minor public service, such as serving on a small town's city council, where the members only fill that role part-time and earn a living elsewhere, those in public service aren't expected to work for free. Being paid doesn't change what their role is. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 22:29, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

When private sector companies use "serves/serving as" (and they only do this for the most senior staff), they do this to encourage us to (at least subconciously) see some sort of equivalence between private sector business roles and what you describe as "public service". Edwardx (talk) 22:53, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

But is that the case? I hate to throw out the original research argument, but that's what this appears to be. Absent a concrete policy stating that the terminology is overtly violating WP:NEUTRAL, rather than an individual editor's notion about what the term might mean, I think you should bring the matter up in the appropriate place for broader discussion, rather than imposing this as a blanket change. I'm unable to find any reliable sources that support your opinion on this. I've seen 'serving as' used to describe a "low level" customer service representative position - that's why it's described as "customer service". cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 23:22, 15 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, anastrophe. The most appropriate venue to facilitate a wider discussion is likely to be Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biography. Incidentally, I have searched the archives there for "serves as", "served as" and "serving as", and have found nothing pertinent. I intend to post something there later today. Edwardx (talk) 13:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

And thank you, Edwardx. I'll keep an eye open over there. cheers. anastrophe, an editor he is. 17:43, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

Have started Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style/Biography#"Serving/serves/served_as". The input of other editors would be very much appreciated. Edwardx (talk) 19:20, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

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You delete my edition

There are many links and discussion. Which one do you want to add? ... Majority of Jews (80%) are on Humanitarian/Palestinian side !!! Let say 90% new foreign settlers and atheistic Zionists (of probably 2 mio in Israel) are some not enough informed are against because of material and other profits regardless on all humanitarian standards of our civilisation in 21th century - see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakba should be the last one !!! In other way - we are in 3rd WW JurijBavdaz (talk) 11:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/04/world/middleeast/israel-haredi-military-service-idf.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LffzmqbGbFY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HH0Lr2nM2qY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVuHgaTdysY https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neturei_Karta#Relations_with_the_Palestinians JurijBavdaz (talk) 11:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, JurijBavdaz. I presume you are talking about Robert Kraft#Philanthropy, where you added controversial content without any citation. I have now added something there, properly cited. Of those sources you mention, only the NY Times would be suitable, and only if it specifically mentioned Robert Kraft, which I suspect it does not (paywalled to me). 15:51, 24 April 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Tarang Jain for deletion

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Richard Parker (mayor)

Hi, with this article and related edits you've made: Parker has not been confirmed as mayor yet. Currently, we have some sources saying Parker is now likely to win with Labour claiming victory, however he has not been elected. Thanks, --Ferien (talk) 19:21, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. Agreed. I moved it into mainspace (slightly) prematurely, to avoid the possibility of multiple creations. As you will see from the talkpage and Richard Parker, there is no obvious first choice to disambigute it. Edwardx (talk) 19:40, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

I see, thanks. I am hoping they would just get this over with and confirmed already ;) --Ferien (talk) 19:44, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Parker won by 1508 votes. Now official. At last... Edwardx (talk) 19:58, 4 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Philip Kirsh for deletion

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Akash Ambani

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Happy first edit day!

Happy First Edit Day! Hi Edwardx! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of the day you made your first edit and became a Wikipedian! Finch (talk) 22:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Finch (talk) 22:31, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. 18 years ago. Tempus fugit. Edwardx (talk) 10:06, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Sam's Chicken for deletion

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Bill Priestap's personal life

Hi. Do you think this should be reverted please? Also, check your e-mails. Thanks!Zigzig20s (talk) 11:15, 21 June 2024 (UTC)

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Ruby Modine page you created

Hey there. I don’t know why but the wiki page you created in 2017 isn’t allowing my DOB edit to stick for more than 10 or 15 hrs.

The earlier version has her incorrectly listed as being born on June 20, 1991.

Her actual DOB is July 31, 1990

you can verify it here:

https://issuemagazine.com/ruby-modine/#/

can you help please? GrubletGrutKing (talk) 15:38, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

Also, she’s is currently 5,10”. Not 5,7” GrubletGrutKing (talk) 15:39, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

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Herbert William Allingham

Hi, hope all good with you. Have you ever seen an image of Herbert William Allingham please? Whispyhistory (talk) 18:10, 31 July 2024 (UTC)

You could try a fair use version of this. Philafrenzy (talk) 22:04, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Philafrenzy. Edwardx (talk) 22:13, 1 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, Philafrenzy. Whispyhistory (talk) 05:27, 2 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for the thanks. Philafrenzy (talk) 21:00, 3 August 2024 (UTC)

Nomination of Dirk Van de Put for deletion

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Tule-hog (talk) 22:49, 6 August 2024 (UTC)

MOS cleanup

I need for MOS cleanup for Ferdinand de Lesseps, as required per MOS:INFONAT and MOS:POSTNOM. As per MOS:POSTNOM, if a person's subject of an article has received honours or appointments issued either by the subject's state of citizenship or residence. 49.150.12.163 (talk) 22:33, 5 August 2024 (UTC)

Done. Edwardx (talk) 22:01, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Matt Lintz

Somehow, I need improvements in the lead section and infobox, by using MOS:NICKNAME, MOS:INFOBOXPURPOSE and MOS:INFOBOXREF. 154.66.159.34 (talk) 02:12, 24 July 2024 (UTC)

Matt Lintz looks to be in decent shape. I do not see the problem? Edwardx (talk) 22:02, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Hello!

Hello Edward, thank you for your modification on the following: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suisse_Secrets I was searching on the Internet and in the following article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%27Ndrangheta. The name of that person is not mentioned in the referenced Wikipedia article. On the other hand, stating that someone is a "money launderer" when there is no final and effective sentence goes against the neutrality and objectivity of the Wikipedia encyclopedia. I wanted to know if, as a middle ground, we can at least establish an acronym or initials. I believe that the permanence of this information is not in line with Wikipedia's policies. Thank you! Sawyer19 (talk) 07:57, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

Is this about Antonio Velardo? Wikipedia is based on what is published in reliable sources, and is not a court of law. Edwardx (talk) 22:06, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

FYI

Hello Edward, maybe you should have a look at the article of Karel Komárek. Yesterday, a Greek WP:SPA has added a lot of dubious content that violates WP:BLP. It is poorly written, and largely based on Ukrainian and Russian sources of low quality, some even appear to be blog posts and press releases. Now, some Hungarian IPs are trying to have an edit war about it. Can this be remedied without silverlocking? Thanks! 46.135.29.2 (talk) 14:37, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

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Who are The Editors?

There's an interesting book launch at Newspeak House today and I plan to attend to see if liberties have been taken with our circle. Hope to see you there. Andrew🐉(talk) 10:24, 29 August 2024 (UTC)

Elizabeth Penrose Howkins

Hi Edwardx, I moved page you created in 2021‎ Betty Penrose to Elizabeth Penrose Howkins. I chose Elizabeth Penrose Howkins because that is the name that appears in ANB. I cannot figure out a preferred way to get the name Betty Penrose into the article. Please take a look at your convenience. Best, --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:16, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, WomenArtistUpdates. I have had a go. And expanded the article further. Edwardx (talk) 09:19, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Vance

It was good to chat with you and Broichmore yesterday. Following up, I looked around to see if The Dragon Masters is readily available online. I found that the Internet Archive has a copy and I borrowed it for an hour and read a few chapters. The story is still engaging and I especially enjoy the barbed repartee of the various antagonists. This may be useful on Wikipedia...

Note that the Internet Archive's library facility is at risk following a recent court decision so make the most of it while you can.

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