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Nomination of Brendan Kennedy (businessman) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Brendan Kennedy (businessman) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brendan Kennedy (businessman) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Deltagammaz (talk) 16:59, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Richard Sharp (BBC chairman)

On 8 February 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Richard Sharp (BBC chairman), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the new chairman of the BBC has a twin sister who is a leading judge? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Richard Sharp (BBC chairman). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Richard Sharp (BBC chairman)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:01, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Lionel Godfrey Pearson and William Winstanley Pearson

Hello. It has been a while since we talked (we met many years ago). I hope all is well. I think Lionel Godfrey Pearson and William Winstanley Pearson are brothers. Please see Talk:Lionel Pearson and see if you agree. I am asking because you created the Lionel Godfrey Pearson article. Thank you. Carcharoth (talk) 14:37, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Encounter (2018 film) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Encounter (2018 film) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Encounter (2018 film) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

CUPIDICAE💕 23:54, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Heinz Hermann Thiele

On 24 February 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Heinz Hermann Thiele, which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. —Bagumba (talk) 15:43, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

DYK for John Lockhart-Mummery

On 6 March 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John Lockhart-Mummery, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that John Lockhart-Mummery was the king of the rectum? You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, John Lockhart-Mummery), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:02, 6 March 2021 (UTC)

Category:Chan family has been nominated for deletion

Category:Chan family has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. Marcocapelle (talk) 16:07, 7 March 2021 (UTC)

Richard Sharp (BBC chairman) etc

		The Special Barnstar
		For some excellent biographical articles relating to businessmen. Great job! Dormskirk (talk) 15:25, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Christmas Manger

The article Christmas Manger has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Non notable film, tagged since 2018. Seems to fail WP:NFILM

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Donaldd23 (talk) 14:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

ITN recognition for Stephen Bechtel Jr.

On 17 March 2021, In the news was updated with an item that involved the article Stephen Bechtel Jr., which you updated. If you know of another recently created or updated article suitable for inclusion in ITN, please suggest it on the candidates page. Stephen 02:20, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Congratulations

Your DYK hook about rectum king John Lockhart-Mummery drew 5,655 page views (471 per hour) while on the Main Page. It is one of the most viewed hooks for the month of March as shown at Wikipedia:Did you know/Statistics#March 2021. Keep up the great work! Cbl62 (talk) 21:10, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Alligator Rainwear

On 1 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Alligator Rainwear, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that an Alligator in PVC made Mary Quant look wet? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Alligator Rainwear. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Alligator Rainwear), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

New message from Narutolovehinata5

Hello, Edwardx. You have new messages at Template:Did you know nominations/Spare Time (film).
Message added 09:41, 9 April 2021 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Narutolovehinata5 ^tccsdnew 09:41, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Spare Time (film)

On 15 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Spare Time (film), which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Humphrey Jennings's 1939 film Spare Time showed an American audience how the British working classes spent their free time? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Spare Time (film). You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Spare Time (film)), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 00:01, 15 April 2021 (UTC)

Nomination of Brian Rose (podcaster) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Brian Rose (podcaster) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brian Rose (podcaster) (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.

Slatersteven (talk) 10:20, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Yo Ho Ho

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Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:WereSpielChequers/Dec20}} to your friends' talk pages.

Thank you Jonathan. Looks like I need to post a dated reply to get this to move into the archive. Edwardx (talk) 10:30, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Request for help on article Steven Schuurman

Hello EdwardX, I saw you created this article about Lesley_Bamberger. I am also writing about a Dutch billionaire, Steven Schuurman, and I was wondering if you would be willing to weigh in on the discussion[[1]] about the article's deletion. No worries if not! Thank you for all your work on wikipedia Bartholomeus1613 (talk) 11:55, 5 June 2021 (UTC)

Mike Adenuga

Hello, Edwardx.

I noticed that you removed Chief Adenuga's pre-nominal honorific. As it was supported by the cited reference, I was somewhat perplexed. Might I trouble you and enquire why you did so?

O.ominirabluejack (talk) 00:18, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

O.ominirabluejack The sourcing is not great, as the cited article is hardly neutral, rather a gushing hagiography. For example: "As a faithful servant, an engaging entrepreneur, a passionate philanthropist, a dedicated realist and reformer, who can bridge all gulfs, level all mountains and put a lamp in every tunnel, as exemplified by his selfless services to Nigeria ..." But many BLPs have far more serious issues, so I will not seek to remove it again. Edwardx (talk) 10:53, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Hmmmm... I see your point. I will endeavor to find a replacement that is more neutral. Thanks for responding. O.ominirabluejack (talk) 11:43, 11 June 2021 (UTC)

Lubov Chernukhin

Hi Edward,

You removed the link section between Chernukhin and Alexander Temerko and Viktor Fedotov. Without it the following three paragraphs make no sense. The connection between the three (directors of the same company) is important as (per the quote by The Times' Edward Lucas in the subsequent section and the quote from the Parliamentary Russia Report) there is concern as to an number of people, in particular but not solely Chernukhin.

If you tell me what the problem is I can fix it, but as you reverted it the article did not make sense.

Best

Kendalandrew (talk) 16:07, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Kendalandrew I am not the first editor to have reverted your addition of such content to our article on Lubov Chernukhin. And if you want to discuss it with me, why have you re-added it without waiting for a response? Anyway, please see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons. The second para states "All quotations and any material challenged or likely to be challenged must be supported by an inline citation to a reliable, published source. Contentious material about living persons (or, in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced—whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable—should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion." I have removed your uncited content accordingly. I am also copying this to Talk:Lubov Chernukhin as others may wish to contribute. Edwardx (talk) 16:43, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

@Edwardx: had no idea what I stumbled upon. Maybe I am not assuming good faith here, but it looks like Kendalandrew may not be here to improve Wikipedia. Rather, it appears to me that they are on a crusade to villify the Chernukhins (whom I have never even heard of until 30 minutes ago). So many policy violations... most notably WP:NOT with cherrypicked quotes and the list of donations. They appear to be in the news and notable, but the content the user doesn't seem neutral to me. --PerpetuityGrat (talk) 19:27, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

PerpetuityGrat Thank you. I had not heard of the Chernukhins until maybe yesterday. Probably Lubov was linked to from an article on my watchlist ("Your notices"), but I cannot recall. I think User:Kendalandrew is rather overzealous, and like many new editors eager to run before they have learnt how to walk through the seemingly endless maze of policies. Fortunately, there appear to be several experienced editors keeping an eye on this stuff now. For the present, I think we should follow the advice in WP:AGF, although WP:CIR may apply before too long. Edwardx (talk) 20:19, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Please watch a page you contributed to...

Could you please watch Lukas Walton for an IP. That person may be a newbie or a POV-pusher. I do not know. But, the person puts fake documents in the web page. We may need to lock it for editing, since there have been problems with IPs editing the page with wrong information. nepaxt 02:46, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Nepaxt, if I start a page, it stays on my watchlist. Presumably it is the PDF that you believe to be fake. Why do you think that is the case? Looking at the homepage of 990 Finder, it is part of Candid, which is a well-established US nonprofit "information service specializing in reporting on U.S. nonprofit companies". However, such primary source documents raise concerns as set out in WP:BLPPRIMARY. As that policy states, "Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, no original research, and the other sourcing policies."

I cannot access the susbscription-only Crain's (chicagobusiness.com) articles directly, but by typing "samantha lukas walton builders initiative" into a search engine (Google), one can see extracts "She's listed as an equal to Walton in Builders Initiative filings." and "and now heading his own foundation called the Builders Initiative". And with "samantha lukas walton", we get "It is said that Walton met his wife, Samantha, on the Blue Line to O'Hare International Airport". It is clear from articles in a reliable source that Lukas Walton is married to Samantha, and that they co-head Builders Initiative, a foundation.

Can we include "Baiz" (presumably her maiden name)? The only vaguely suitable source I can find is Candid Candace, "Additional notable guests included Amy and Andy Bluhm, Penny Pritzker and Bryan Traubert, Maria Pinto, Lukas Walton and Samantha Baiz Walton..." As the URL states, it is her personal blog, and the Chicago Tribune staff page, for whom she writes a weekly column, confirms this. WP:SPS sets out how self-published material can only be used in limited circumstances, and this does not appear to meet that standard.

Therefore with exception of "Baiz", I think we can reinstate the IP editor's additions, including the primary source, as it could be seen to "augment the secondary source". Are you okay with this reinstatement and my copying all this to Talk:Lukas Walton, as that is the better location for any future discussion of such matters? Edwardx (talk) 12:31, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Nepaxt, as the IP editor has reverted you again, I have copied this to Talk:Lukas Walton, and dropped "Baiz" from their edit. Edwardx (talk) 10:40, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Aşure for you

	Aşure for you
	Believe me, this is the SWEETEST thing in the world. V. E. (talk) 18:54, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, V. E. Many years ago, I enjoyed aşure in Doğubayazıt, close to Mount Ararat itself. Edwardx (talk) 19:06, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Assistance with new article related to previously published subject - Jack Tilton

Hello Edward -

I was hoping you could potentially offer your advice on help with an article I created on a gallery once owned by Jack Tilton. The article is being rejected as a promotional puff piece as I am a new user and I am looking to get assistance on improving it and increasing the chances that it could be approved.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Roberts_Projects

Thanks very much for your time, Ashley

Ashsnomac (talk) 19:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

Thank you, Ashsnomac. Yes, I did start the article on Jack Tilton, who had a NYT obit, and so is notable in Wikipedia terms. I am sceptical as to whether that is the case for this gallery - where is the independent in-depth coverage? You have ref-bombed the article, but it does not look to amount to much. And you are being paid to write this, so as an unpaid volunteer, I will respectfully decline. Edwardx (talk) 19:47, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

many thanks for your prompt reply - I can understand your hesitancy. The gallery is notable in Wikipedia terms in its contribution to artist careers and the history of contemporary art in California. If you think of any other ways I can improve the article please let me know. best, Ashley Ashsnomac (talk) 20:16, 5 July 2021 (UTC)

"Claire Tran" listed at Redirects for discussion

A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Claire Tran. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 July 11#Claire Tran until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. PrimeHunter (talk) 22:17, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

DYK for Hélène Arpels

On 13 July 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Hélène Arpels, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that model and shoe designer Hélène Arpels believed that "diamonds go with everything"? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Hélène Arpels. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Hélène Arpels), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Cwmhiraeth (talk) 12:03, 13 July 2021 (UTC)