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Edwardx You've now reinstated a BLP violation, specifically companies house, that contains personal information specifically against the policy I've linked above. Can you please explain that? CHRISSYMAD❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯13:41, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Chrissymad, your edit summary reads "what part of WP:BLP were you struggling to understand ?" If you scroll down to WP:BLPPRIMARY, Companies House can be used to use to "augment the secondary source". It is just the month and year of birth after all, not the full date of birth. Edwardx (talk) 13:51, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
That's not my edit summary and BLP policy specifically says Do not use trial transcripts and other court records, or other public documents, to support assertions about a living person. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses.CHRISSYMAD❯❯❯¯\_(ツ)_/¯13:56, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
An oversight for which I apologise, it was Nick's edit summary. You are quoting the first paragraph of WP:BLPPRIMARY; I was quoting from the second, and as I have already stated CH does not provide the "date of birth", just the month and year. Edwardx (talk) 14:05, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
I was simply trying to make the point that primary sources can sometimes be used to support secondary ones - otherwise, what would be the point of the second paragraph in BLPPRIMARY? Edwardx (talk) 14:26, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
That's my edit summary, and Companies House cannot be used to "augment the secondary source". The BLP policy is explicit. Do not use public records that include personal details, such as date of birth, home value, traffic citations, vehicle registrations, and home or business addresses. You refer to a primary source being used to augment a secondary source, but that does not include any sources explicitly barred by the BLP policy, such as those which include personal details etc (Where primary-source material has been discussed by a reliable secondary source, it may be acceptable to rely on it to augment the secondary source, subject to the restrictions of this policy, no original research, and the other sourcing policies). Please do take time to read, at length, the BLP policy before making any further edits to BLPs, as it's quite clear your understanding of this policy is not sufficient. Nick (talk) 13:58, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
Nick, could you please give an example of where a primary source could be used to augment a secondary source for someone's year of birth? Edwardx (talk) 17:18, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
You could take their DoB from an autobiography, a personal website etc. Just not a site like Companies House which links to their home address etc. Nick (talk) 17:30, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
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Some of the interface icons and text sizes will change slightly, as part of the updates for improved accessibility and consistency. These icons are used in many features, including Notifications, Recent Changes, Beta Features, Visual Editor, 2017 Wikitext Editor, Code Editor, and others. While editor toolbars, dialogs, and menus will appear slightly bigger; elements on special pages will be slightly smaller. Functionality will not change. [1][2]
The deprecated #toc and #toctitle CSS ids have been removed. If your wiki was still using these for fake Tables of Content (ToC) then these might lose their styling. They can be replaced with .toc and .toctitle classes where appropriate. [3]
TemplateStyles will be deployed to the Wikivoyages on 28 March 2018. [4]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 27 March. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 28 March. It will be on all wikis from 29 March (calendar).
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From 9 April, the sort order of categories will be distorted for a short time. We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a maintenance script to update existing database entries. This will last anywhere from a few hours to a few days, depending on wiki size. Read more details. [5]
Changes are coming to search for Serbian projects. Cyrillic and Latin variants of a word and different grammatical forms of a word will be able to find each other. Read more on MediaWiki in Serbian or English.
You may want to consider using the Article Wizard to help you create articles.
A tag has been placed on Lukas Gage, requesting that it be deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under two or more of the criteria for speedy deletion, by which pages can be deleted at any time, without discussion. If the page meets any of these strictly-defined criteria, then it may soon be deleted by an administrator. The reasons it has been tagged are:
It is a very short article providing little or no context to the reader. (See section A1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Wikipedia has standards for the minimum necessary information to be included in short articles; you can see these at Wikipedia:Stub. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.
It appears to be about a person, organization (band, club, company, etc.), individual animal, or web content, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. (See section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion.) Such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.
If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Makro (talk) 16:41, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
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New Page Review Newsletter No.10
Hello Edwardx, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
ACTRIAL's six month experiment restricting new page creation to (auto)confirmed users ended on 14 March. As expected, a greatly increased number of unsuitable articles and candidates for deletion are showing up in the feed again, and the backlog has since increased already by ~30%. Please consider reviewing a few extra articles each day.
Paid editing
Now that ACTRIAL is inoperative pending discussion, please be sure to look for tell-tale signs of undisclosed paid editing. Contact the creator if appropriate, and submit the issue to WP:COIN if necessary.
Subject-specific notability guidelines
The box at the right contains each of the subject-specific notability guidelines, please review any that are relevant BEFORE nominating an article for deletion.
While patrolling articles, if you find an editor that is particularly competent at creating quality new articles, and that user has created more than 25 articles (rather than stubs), consider nominating them for the 'Autopatrolled' user right HERE.
News
The next issue Wikipedia's newspaper The Signpost has now been published after a long delay. There are some articles in it, including ACTRIAL wrap-up that will be of special interest to New Page Reviewers. Don't hesitate to contribute to the comments sections. The Signpost is one of the best ways to stay up date with news and new developments - please consider subscribing to it. All editors of Wikipedia and associated projects are welcome to submit articles on any topic for consideration by the The Signpost's editorial team for the next issue.
Edwardx, I was wondering why you created this redirect to War for the Planet of the Apes. As far as I can tell, there is no mention of the actor Chad Rook (assuming that's who you meant) on the article page, so it's effectively useless in helping to identify this person. Someone added a wikilink to a non-linked mention of Chad Rook today, and when I followed it, found it was confusing rather than helpful. Is the redirect no longer relevant? Thanks for any help you can give me. BlueMoonset (talk) 05:16, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
On 1 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Trump Street, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Trump is directly connected to Russia? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Trump Street. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Trump Street), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
And thank you, Andrew D. and Katherine for tweeting about it. I may have started both articles way back in early January, but others were responsible for most of the writing and the DYK machinations. Here is another London street nom that you may find amusing, Oakley Street, Chelsea.
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Recent changes
Template Wizard script available for testing. It will show up as a puzzle-piece icon in the 2010 WikiEditor. You can click on the icon to insert a template.
The Wikimedia Communities and Contributors survey is to be sent to participants around the world this week. If you are volunteer developer, and have contributed code to any pieces of MediaWiki, gadgets, or tools, please take 20 to 40 minutes to complete the survey.
Problems
MediaWiki deployment train has been rolled back to version 1.31.0-wmf.26 on week 13, due to a multiplication of lost connections during MySQL queries. Some of the recent changes may have not been applied. They will be deployed next week. [6][7][8]
The Notifications badge icons were overlapping other links. This has been fixed. [9]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 3 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 4 April. It will be on all wikis from 5 April (calendar).
User subpages ending in .json will now be protected from other people editing them, like .js and .css pages already are. If you have a tool that stores static configuration, you can now use a subpage like User:Example/mygadget.json to do this without concerns. [10]
Tidy will be replaced by RemexHtml on the next set of wikis. On April 4, we plan to turn off Tidy on all Wikiquotes (except frwikiquote) and Wikimedia chapters and user groups wikis. 23 wikis will have Tidy replaced this time. [11][12][13]
AbuseFilter will transition to use OOUI starting April 4, and the rule editor will also be changed to a CodeEditor (ACE) similar to what is found on user JavaScript pages. The move to OOUI will continue over the next few weeks. [14][15]
In Special:Preferences, the preference "Reload the watchlist automatically whenever a filter is changed (JavaScript required)" is now only visible for users who have opt-out the New Filters for the Watchlist. [16]
You can see names of individual abuse filters in Special:AbuseLog. Now if the name of an abuse filter contains some wikisyntax like links, it will not change to a link when displayed. [17]
You can now search through filter patterns at Special:AbuseFilter. You may specify either a plain string or a regular expression and the matching filters will show a snippet of their pattern with the match highlighted. [18]
Meetings
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Future changes
If you're using, creating or improving Lua modules, you can give your feedback to help harmonizing the modules across wikis and add more useful functions.
On April 11th, we plan to turn off Tidy on all wikis with less than 50 entries in all high priority linter categories. About 60 wikis will have Tidy replaced. Currently about 600 wikis have had Tidy replaced and we have another 300 wikis to go. We plan to finish this transition from Tidy to RemexHtml by end of June 2018. Please follow T175706 to monitor progress of Tidy replacement. [19][20]
Edwardx, it has been over four weeks since this was nominated, and you still haven't provided a QPQ. That needs to be done right away, and you'll probably want to address Gerda Arendt's comments in her review as well. Many thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 18:15, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
On 7 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Christian Boros, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Christian Boros owns an art gallery in a former bunker in Berlin? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Christian Boros. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Christian Boros), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
Open Citations Month, with its eminently guessable hashtag, is upon us. We should be utterly grateful that in the past 12 months, so much data on which papers cite which other papers has been made open, and that Wikidata is playing its part in hosting it as "cites" statements. At the time of writing, there are 15.3M Wikidata items that can do that.
Pulling back to look at open access papers in the large, though, there is is less reason for celebration. Access in theory does not yet equate to practical access. A recent LSE IMPACT blogpost puts that issue down to "heterogeneity". A useful euphemism to save us from thinking that the whole concept doesn't fall into the realm of the oxymoron.
Some home truths: aggregation is not content management, if it falls short on reusability. The PDF file format is wedded to how humans read documents, not how machines ingest them. The salami-slicer is our friend in the current downloading of open access papers, but for a better metaphor, think about skinning an onion, laboriously, 100 times with diminishing returns. There are of the order of 100 major publisher sites hosting open access papers, and the predominant offer there is still a PDF.
Red onion cross section
From the discoverability angle, Wikidata's bibliographic resources combined with the SPARQL query are superior in principle, by far, to existing keyword searches run over papers. Open access content should be managed into consistent HTML, something that is currently strenuous. The good news, such as it is, would be that much of it is already in XML. The organisational problem of removing further skins from the onion, with sensible prioritisation, is certainly not insuperable. The CORE group (the bloggers in the LSE posting) has some answers, but actually not all that is needed for the text and data mining purposes they highlight. The long tail, or in other words the onion heart when it has become fiddly beyond patience to skin, does call for a pis aller. But the real knack is to do more between the XML and the heart.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Some pages have templates that describe problems with that article. There is now more information for mobile readers and what is wrong with the article and how they could help fix it. [21]
The sort order of categories will have errors for a short time starting Monday 9 April (UTC). We are upgrading versions of an internationalisation library (ICU) and using a script to update the database. This will take between a few hours and a few days depending on wiki size. You can read more details. [23]
Tag filter titles will now work better on wikis where the tag filter title is in a language that is written in another direction than the language of that wiki. This could for example be an English title (written from left to right) on a Hebrew or an Arabic wiki (written from right to left). [24]
Problems
The bookmark icon for saved filters on the recent changes page disappeared because of new icon changes. This has now been fixed. [25]
For a week in March rollbacks got both the rollback and the undo tag on the recent changes page and other pages where you see tags. This has now been fixed. [26]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 10 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 11 April. It will be on all wikis from 12 April (calendar).
Patrolled edits now have three states instead of two. Recent changes filters are updated to show unpatrolled, autopatrolled and manually patrolled edits. [27]
Meetings
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Hi, Edward. I believe you know a little more about this subject than I do. I was wondering if you could offer any advice on how to have one of these banners removed from a page, and suggestions on how to make language less promotional and more neutral sounding. Obviously, I want to make sure I'm working within Wikipedia's content rules. Thanks for any help you can offer. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elvis1957 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Changes later this week
Profiling statistics for an abuse filter tell how often edits match the filter. The statistics for the abuse filters were reset after 10000 actions. Wikis can now decide to reset it more or less often. They can file a phabricator task to do so. [28]
Abuse filters will now treat integers and floats more precisely. For example, 5/2 was rounded down to 2 but will now be 2.5 and 2*4 will be the integer 8 and not the floating-point number 8.0. Division values are the only ones changed. For the rest only strict comparisons (=== and !==) will be affected leaving the values unchanged. [29][30]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 April. It will be on all wikis from 19 April (calendar).
Meetings
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Future changes
The new PDF renderer could not create PDFs from books. Books are in this case collections of pages on a Wikimedia wiki. PediaPress will take over development of the books-to-PDF function. [31]
Pywikibot will no longer support Python 2.7.2 and 2.7.3. [32]
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tony Wood (British businessman) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Uhooep (talk) 15:39, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
Johnny Sandelson
This page needs updating with more current information,but I am being prevented from doing so and I don't understand why. It is factually correct, supported by citations and I do not work for the person profiled. Please can I have specific instructions on what needs to be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veriwiki (talk • contribs) 16:49, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
I will try to incorporate some of that information in a more neutral way. I notice you have added [[File:Johnny Sandeslon.jpg]], stating that it is your own work. The metadata shows the author as being "Ronya Galka Photography". Is that you? Edwardx (talk) 22:47, 16 April 2018 (UTC)
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Question about your edit- Hi Edwardx,
You deleted my edits (2 sentences) on the Michael Capponi page and said Fox Business and VOX were not reliable sources. I was under the impression they are reliable sources. Can you explain? Thank you. Settherecord (talk)SetTheRecord —Preceding undated comment added 01:29, 19 April 2018 (UTC) ]
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Business Initiative Directions until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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The iOS and Android apps now have synced reading lists. This means you can save articles to a private list that can be seen on your other devices if you use the apps.
The visual editor and the 2017 wikitext ask you to write an edit summary after you press Publish. This button now also shows an ellipsis. This is to show that pressing Publish is not the last step. [34]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 April. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 April. It will be on all wikis from 26 April (calendar).
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Future changes
<mapframe> will come to most Wikipedias in May. This means that you can put interactive maps in the articles. Nine Wikipedias that use a strict version of flagged revisions will not get this feature in May. [35]
The rollback function could change. This was a German community request. All editors with rollback rights can leave feedback on the proposed solution. The last day to leave feedback is 4 May (UTC).
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Recent changes
The parameter for unpatrolled edits in recent changes filters changed name. You might need to update saved filters and links. [36]
Problems
We are migrating wikis from Tidy to Remex. Because of a bug the 250 wikis which do not yet use Remex were switched on 23 April. This is two months early. This meant that pages with broken wikitext showed wrongly to readers. The bug was undone the next day. You can help fix broken wikitext to avoid this problem when your wiki switches. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. You can follow the process on Phabricator. [37]
When an administrator blocks someone they will have a calendar they can use to choose when the block ends. This is to make it easier to pick a specific date. [39]
You can soon turn on the Performance Inspector in the Editing section in your preferences. It shows information about the performance of pages. This could be the size of modules in the page, how many CSS selectors are defined on the page and how many are used, or the size of the images on the page. This tool is intended to help editors fix pages that load slowly. [40]
There is a new abuse filter function called equals_to_any. You can use it to check if its first argument is equal (===) to any of the following ones. For example you can use it to check if the page's namespace is amongst a given set of values in a more compact way than you could earlier. You can read more on mediawiki.org.
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 1 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 2 May. It will be on all wikis from 3 May (calendar).
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Future changes
The Wikimedia Cloud Services team is working on a new project called Toolhub. The goal is to make it easier for Wikimedians to discover software tools they can use. You can leave feedback on the talk page or email jharewikimedia.org to leave private feedback.
All wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in all namespaces will switch to use the Remex parsing library. This is to replace Tidy. It will happen on 2 May. Other wikis will be recommended to switch soon when they have fixed the errors that must be fixed. Wikibooks wikis with fewer than 100 high-priority linter errors in the main namespace will switch on 9 May. Tidy will be removed on all wikis before July 2018. [41][42][43]
The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rashid Al Habtoor until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. -- Dlohcierekim (talk) 04:41, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
