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You deleted the Performance (band) page I wrote and i didn't understand why at the time (i'm a newbie here so please bear with me...). I then made a request for undeletion and another admin explained me what was wrong with my article : the lack of reliable sources about the notability of the band. You can see the discussion here.
The deletion was under CSD A7 so my request for undeletion can't be processed.
Criteria 7 of the notability of a band can be met for them. I found better sources that shows of the notability of the band on the Manchester (UK) scene :
Furthermore, Joseph "Joe" Cross could fill the criteria to have his own wikipedia page as a musician because of his work as a composer and producer for The Sound of Arrows and Hurts and remixer for other major artists. Joe Stretch already have a wikipedia page. So it would lead to the kafkaesque situation where two member of a band are notable enough to deserve a page on wikipedia but not the band itself...
With these additional sources, would you consider to undelete this page?
Hi, sorry if I'm not understanding this correctly, but which refs show that this band "[h]as become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city" as stated in criteria 7 of WP:BAND? The BBC ref says that they "blasted onto the local scene" but it says nothing about being "the most prominent of the local scene of a city". Eagles24/7(C)01:38, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
Me and user:Paralympiakos are currently involved in a discussion over whether the Marcus Jones article should be titled Marcus Jones (athlete) or Marcus Jones (fighter). I believe that the title should be "athlete" since he played six years in the NFL and is not only a fighter, while Paralympiakos believes the title should be "fighter" because he is more notable as a figher. I was just wondering what your opinion is and maybe help solve the issue.--Yankees1023:40, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
In reply to the post on my talk,I will go through with my RFA page. I believe strongly that I know a lot about wikipedia, and I could be a asset to the organization. Please do not delete the page, and if I fail; I will try again some other time. I am determined. Thanks for the post, and i read the links you sent me. --StartrekismylifeJadzia (talk) 23:29, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I have already deleted your RfA. I will restore the page if you would like, but you will have to transclude it at WP:RFA if you want other users to !vote. Again, please know that you do not have a good chance at succeeding due to your low edit count and experience. Eagles24/7(C)23:32, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
I was going to copyedit the game summaries as I was having difficulty seeing how they could be split off but decided that my knowledge of US football is too small being limited to sort of following the Miami Dolphins for a season and a half during the late 90s on UK TV late night shows.
I suspect there is a reasonable amount of info that could be cut out though, in many places it is written more like a magazine/newspaper article than an encyclopaedic entry.
"The teams alternate home and away each year, and this year the Sooners played host. They occupied the bench under the press box and wore their red home jerseys while Texas will wore their all-white road uniforms. The stadium, as usual, was split down the 50-yard (46 m) line with Sooner fans sitting on the south side of mid-field. The division is visually striking with a difference in crowd noise levels from one end of the stadium to the other."
Also things which seem more general and not really specifically about the particular 2006 season meet. This, I suppose, should be in a more general section about the whole season rather than in the Oklahoma game section-
"With the two teams in the south division of the same conference, it is difficult for either team to win their half of the conference without winning this game although this did occur in the 2006 season. The winner of the game has a much greater chance to be the Big 12 South division champion and play in the Big 12 Championship Game at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. The game often has national title implications as well. Since 1999, the winner in of this rivalry game has gone on to the BCS National Championship on 3 occasions, the Sooners in 2000 and 2004, and the Longhorns in 2005. Prior to the game, the sports line in Vegas casinos was 4 to 41/2 points with Texas the favorite.
I will leave it as my knowledge is not great and fear any changes may have implications I may not have realised. Thanks once again for the work so far :¬)
I have removed the two paragraphs you listed above. Be bold and remove anything else that you think is unnecessary. The material can always be added back if you are wrong. Eagles24/7(C)03:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
I just saw the news of his firing. Typically, big events like this (such as Heisman winning, Super Bowl winning, coach firing, etc.) get a ton of vandalism. Kind of a coincidence, but I commented at WP:RFPP anyway. Eagles24/7(C)22:01, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
It's certainly appreciated as the vandalism was piling up on itself. In cases where people are just using Huggle and such to revert, the multiple vandal hits are sometimes missed with only the most recent vandalism being reverted. Cheers again. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots22:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
A case like this is exactly why I wanted to become an admin. Too often, mass-vandalism to articles that occurs due to a very recent major event is unnoticed for hours. When Mark Ingram, Jr. won the Heisman last year, there had to be at least 100 counts of vandalism within a few hours. If you need anything else in the future, just message me here. Eagles24/7(C)22:07, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
I know exactly how you feel - there are some issues in which I am completely uninvolved that would be so simple to resolve, but I have to bang on doors to make it happen. Given the complete drama-fest ANI has been the past 24 hours, many active admins have been distracted. Thanks for your help, it's very appreciated. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots00:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
But that's not the end of the question. Have you checked for news coverage on the others to see if they have had non-trivial coverage sufficient to meet general notability standards? Cbl62 (talk) 22:46, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Another possible redaction.
If only there was some tool that administrators could use just to identify vandal edits that add at least 400 KB (or in this case, 3.8 MB) to the page and immediately redact them in a similar ease to just pressing Q (with a different key, though). mechamind9022:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
Do I even want to click the diff? Anyway, admins only have a couple tools non-admins don't have: block, delete, protect. And the ability to undo those three moves. I don't think there are any tools for that, although ClueBot is usually quick to revert edits like that. Huggle may also have a button for that, but I don't know. Eagles24/7(C)23:03, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
So I take it you don't have a redaction tool? By the way, in case you didn't actually look at the diff, somebody presumably typed over 600,000 tildes, which all turned into time stamps (except the last one which turned into a user stamp. mechamind9002:39, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Oooooooh! I get what you're saying now. RevDel, or Revision Deletion, is a tool that comes in the admin tool package. I didn't understand that you wanted me to delete the edit. Am I correct? Eagles24/7(C)02:44, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I would nominate it, but I'd like to see how the other 7 articles I nominated that were similar fare at their AfDs first. Cornelius may meet WP:GNG and I'm going to hold off for now. Feel free to nominate it yourself if you feel strongly about its deletion by following the instructions at WP:AFDHOWTO. Eagles24/7(C)20:15, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
I deleted the article because the consensus of the deletion discussion you have linked above was delete. The concerns brought up in the discussion were copyrighted text in the article, no reliable sources and an apparent conflict of interest with the creator of the article and a director of the organization. If you can provide reliable sources for this organization that assert its notability, I will restore the article. Eagles24/7(C)20:19, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, but that is not enough. Being a registered charity is not enough to warrant notability, and the second source you provided only lists SCWIST in a list of mentor programs. The first source is okay, but according to WP:ORG#Primary criteria, more than one reliable source is needed for the notability criteria. Eagles24/7(C)23:08, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
The first source is a trivial mention as a list, but the second source is okay like the one I mentioned previously. If you can find newspaper articles that feature SCWIST, that would definitely help. Eagles24/7(C)01:36, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Again, these links are not enough. YouTube is not a reliable source, and a request for volunteers does not show notability. The first link is just like the previous ones mentioned, but it does not satisfy the statement at WP:ORG#Primary criteria which says "attention solely from local media, or media of limited interest and circulation, is not an indication of notability; at least one regional, national, or international source is necessary." Eagles24/7(C)20:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
CBC interview with 2008 CBC Radio 1 interview about gender issues in science & technology & SCWIST's Volunteer Program. The program name is On The Coast but the link is not working anymore: http://www.cbc.ca/onthecoast/features/help-wanted.html.
A local news radio station and a book about local volunteer organizations do not satisfy the criteria I have listed above. If you want a second opinion on the deletion you can start a thread at WP:DRV, because I'm just not seeing the organization's notability. Eagles24/7(C)21:16, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
You have right. What can I achieve by starting the thread?
CBC is a local news station for the whole Canada though. I guess an article in Vancouver Sun (local Vancouver newspaper) would not meet the criteria either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.102.98.187 (talk) 01:14, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
By starting the thread, you can view other administrators' opinions on the deletion. A deletion can be overturned by consensus at DRV, or it can stay deleted. Per CBC Radio One#CBC Radio One stations, there are many CBC Radio One stations for each region of Canada. The Vancouver Sun is the seventh largest newspaper in Canada, but if the organization just gets a brief, trivial mention in the paper it won't meet the WP:ORG criteria. However, if it gets a featured article in the newspaper, then it may meet WP:ORG. Eagles24/7(C)01:45, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
Request for Adminship
Hello Eagles,
You can delete my RfA page - I do not intent to be an administrator for now. Some other admins here gave me some advices and I still need to get more editing skills in order to go further with the another request. Thank you. Denisxavier (talk) 23:25, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
Auburn Tigers football
Eagles, I would be grateful if you would apply some level of protection to the "2010 Auburn Tigers football team" page. It suffered multiple vandalism edits by multiple IP and SPA users last night for a period of something like four hours, and again this morning. Given Auburn's BCS ranking and the ongoing controversy over Cam Newton, I suspect that we can expect increasingly nasty levels of vandalism and smack edits to this page. Probably should be protected through the end of the season, IMHO. Cam Newton's page, too, if it isn't already protected. Thanks. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 12:14, 11 November 2010 (UTC)
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I trust Pats' decision on the matter. PFW is the most reliable transactions wire in the NFL, but if they're wrong, this can easily be corrected. Eagles24/7(C)20:01, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
The two questions.
Hello! I have 2 questions here! First is that all emblems of canada is copyrighted? Second question is how do i create my subpage? Please Reply! Umutcan123456 (talk) 22:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
I fixed the article you were editing. If you use "collapse = yes/no" at the Start, you must use "collapse = yes/no" at the bottom, which is why you were seeing an extra |}. Thanks! 134.253.26.12 (talk) 21:47, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Done. It's not entirely bullet proof (e.g., I don't check for all parameters, but just the most major ones), but it's better than what was there before. I will ping another knowlegable template programmer as well. In my experience, User:Thumperward, User:Plastikspork, and User:WOSlinker are all very good at this sort of thing. I asked Spork to look it over, since he/she has done so for me in the past. 134.253.26.12 (talk) 22:08, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry to bother you again. Can you please delete Chris Archer? It seems kinda pointless to direct it to a video game when there is now a baseball player with that name.--Yankees1022:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
I have converted the redirect to a disambiguation page that links to the previous redirection and the baseball player's current team. Eagles24/7(C)22:50, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
Hello! Thanks for created to your own subpages. But your "Userfied Pages of Deleted Pages" must be split. Also, these not appears at the english articles, but still unknown because category means "Userfied Pages". please split the solve this problem. Or i create MfD Nomination. Such as this message removal not means to solve. Thank You Umutcan123456talk21:20, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
I have no idea what you are talking about by saying my subpages "must be split," but I take it you just don't understand what these subpages are. These articles were once deleted, but I wanted to work on them in case these players became notable in the future. There is no policy against this practice, so any MfD would likely result in "keep." Eagles24/7(C)21:29, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
I don't think that is MfD results in "keep". Possibly "Delete" due related to WP:UP#COPIES. Also you have to solve this problem by
To make split Like "Userfied Pages" and "Deleted Pages" or
To make sure you will be explain to Discuss while your subpages is about to MfD Nomination, or
Please apply this choice. Also what is means "rmy"? Note: I hope that you cannot delete the my new subpage /Userboxes. Subpage is coming soon! Umutcan123456talk21:54, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Uh, no, I'm not going to move the pages into mainspace right now. If I move them into mainspace they will be deleted for the same reasons they were deleted before. Eagles24/7(C)22:00, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
mmmm.. Then improve! Did you read my message? Above to your answer. I'll create the new userboxes at /Userboxes. But page still exist yet! I'm imagine to create a my userbox first time, such as |This user is possesses emotions| box :D, with black-yellow colored. I'm saying once again. Improve first, then move the pages into the main space. If you have a problem, ask. Also you can help with professional administrators, if you want to more improving. I'm also support you to improve. When you are completed the one of your pages, then move into the new article. Therefore anyone can see your contributions, even to me. If anyone vandalize to your new article, make a full-protect (I'm not an administrator.). Thus you will be create a new article. Umutcan123456talk22:17, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Hi there. Eagles247 is an administrator. He, as well as anyone, may keep draft articles in his userspace, as pages there are not considered "articles". Nakon22:29, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
Oops! I wrote that message accidently! So i wrote this "Then you must get started"! I apology. But i'm confused with.
I did some more searching. Most sources say DuPree, but some say Dupree. PFR, NFL.com, ESPN, Dallas Cowboys.com, etc. all say DuPree. RevanFan (talk) 04:38, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
Sorry not to have consulted you first, and perhaps I should, but taking into account the unblock request, I've reduced this to 24h as a first block, since I see it as an inexperienced editor getting frustrated and flying off the handle rather than a deliberate vandalism/disruption. If he had been given some constructive advice, rather than templates, perhaps we wouldn't be here. Time alone will tell, however, whether this is going to be a productive editor longterm. Rodhullandemu23:48, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
Thanks for the notification. Per the discussion at User talk:Wayne Olajuwon#User:Uncle Milty, it appears that this user may be abusing multiple accounts. I noticed that in his unblock request, Tomas made it a point to clear himself as just an editor to, and not the creator of, the Tebson article. ([1]) This attempt to clear himself in that aspect raises red flags that suggest he is, in fact, User:Tebsongay. Within 24 hours, an SPI will be filed for this user, so I don't think it really matters if he is blocked the second day or not. Eagles24/7(C)23:53, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
I wasn't aware of the sockpuppetry allegations, but thanks for the heads up. I see no reason to bat on his behalf until this has been cleared up. Rodhullandemu00:05, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
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Eagles, what is the proper infobox to use for former college football players who never played a down in a regular season professional game? For example, former Gators wide receiver Carlos Alvarez. Clearly notable as a consensus All-American and SEC record-holder, but his knee injuries prevented him from playing in the NFL. Should we use one of the infoboxes for College football player, NFLactive or Gridiron football player, or something else? I'm getting ready to add articles for two more first-team All-American Gators who never played professional ball (Bruce Bennett, Charlie LaPradd), and I would like to get it right on the first try. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 18:12, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
With Alvarez, you could use Template:Infobox CollegeFootballPlayer, but if you have any troubles with it (certain required parameters like "class" will not apply for a former player), you can always use Template:Infobox NFL player. If you decide to use the NFL player infobox, for the "pastteams" parameter you can put in Florida Gators. You can really go either way in these cases, and I don't have a personal preference. Eagles24/7(C)19:10, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Thank you, sir, for your prompt response. Have you seen any examples of the College football player infobox used for former college players, or just current undergraduates? BTW, the "class" field will accept "Graduate"; apparently, it is an unlinked field that will accept any ASCII text.
One other infobox question for you: do you have any idea how to turn off fields in infoboxes, so they don't show default text? I'm having a problem with "Infobox college golf team" as used in the "Florida Gators men's golf" article. It automatically includes default text for a "women's coach" even when no women's coach is listed. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 19:50, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
I think I've seen one instance of its use for a former player, but it was in error because they signed a contract with a team in training camp and I immediately converted the infobox. I have changed the Template:Infobox college golf team to make the "mens," "mens-tenure," "womens," and "womens-tenure" parameters optional, so the Florida Gators men's golf article does not include the women's coach. Eagles24/7(C)20:05, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
Hey Eagles! I'm kind of bummed at the loss to the Bears today, but so what. While surfing 2010 NFL Draft, I noticed that the draftyear= parameter links to the current season isntead of last year's. While this may be intentional (i.e., to see how a draft pick affected a team), I would always look to see why that team got that pick insatead of how that pick helped that team. I've changed the first round in the 2010 Draft to reflect my point on this matter. Is this on purpose? Buggie111 (talk) 01:43, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Should we block them both now that they have made it overly obvious, or at least AirTran that that is is Sock, and he has used it as one, reverting his own edits and calling them vandalism etc. Tofutwitch11-Chat -How'd I do?23:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
Nah, there's no point in blocking now. Since both were blocked almost a year ago, they never violated WP:SOCK. He clearly had a conflict of interest and socking issues, but it doesn't matter now. Just keep an eye out in case they create another account. Eagles24/7(C)23:09, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
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