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Bleeding heart recordings

Hi Don, you messages me a few days ago. Would it be alright if you deleted the first bleeding hearts page please?

Thanks! Hattie — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hattiecooke91 (talk • contribs) 11:40, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Ars Nova (theater)

Hello! Your submission of Ars Nova (theater) at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Secretlondon (talk) 21:01, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

Hey Don. :-) Just letting you know I'm working on editing/expanding the page. Have added a bit more clarification to a couple of the programs and created a section for awards and honors. Still doesn't bring it to 1500 words, but it's a work in progress. :-) RunnerOnIce (talk) 15:51, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I would not worry too much, this article Brow Monument and Brow Monument Trail in my Watchlist appeared as DYK today, I counted < 900 words. --  :- ) Don 15:55, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Awesome, that makes me feel loads better. :-) RunnerOnIce (talk) 16:06, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

According to Word, this one's up to 1337 words, excluding the table of contents, references, etc. So getting there, at least. :-) RunnerOnIce (talk) 16:10, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Anatman (Hindu philosophy)

Sir, I have revised this article which article you made me realize was more in the form of an essay. I had initially posted this article so as to highlight the concept of Anatman in Hindu Philosophy as propounded by Adi Shankara. I still believe this particular concept deserves a separate page. I am to request you to re-review this page. I might have erred in language and presentation, if so, kindly help me improve this article. Thanks.Soni Ruchi (talk) 06:36, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Soni,

Yes, I think it looks very nice and is much better. I cleaned out comments and corrected the section order only. I would prefer that someone else review it this time, so as to get a different perspective, and I may be prejudiced either in a good or bad way. I do not like to review an article twice, unless it is very bad, and I want it to go away. Thank you for your efforts. --  :- ) Don 16:16, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

Daniel James

Thanks for the help. I think I have sorted out a few things. As you know research goes on and I will update as and when and try to link to other articles.

Ted

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Speedy deletion nomination of Chad Price (disambiguation)

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Hi

Thank you for your message.

To be honest, I am slightly at a loss re notability. I have reviewed many other entries for other musicians etc. Apart from making a factual, impartial account, I don't believe I can do much more. This person is far more notable and referenced, than many of the other musicians/artists already included.

There are endless reviews etc in addition to the extensive discography. (personally, I believe that playing independently with 2 members of Cream should be reason enough - but, I suppose that's why I'm not an editor..... :-))

Can you help me please? I did my very best to adhere to all the guidelines and read everything I could on Notability + Puffery etc.

Please help if you can - or at least indicate what aspect of this musician's life/career is not worthy of inclusion.

Thanks for getting in touch. I was beginning to feel that things had dropped into a Black Hole.

Gordon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Intagen (talk • contribs) 20:42, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Gordon,

The article is very well done. It is not your fault that the required notability we are looking for does not exist(at this time). Like I said, it's sort of 50/50 at this time. Let me see what I can do over the next day. I will grab the submission for now. --  :- ) Don 20:51, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks. Perhaps I could do more with the refs - as some of the press reviews and comments are pretty notable (Inter/National Press etc). It's my first article - so thanks for your encouragement. I was hoping to follow up with a couple more - I can see how this becomes rather addictive.....

Thanks for your interest in this subject.

Kind regards

Intagen (talk) 20:57, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

DYK for Ars Nova (theater)

On 9 October 2012, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Ars Nova (theater), which you recently nominated. The fact was ... that in the "drinking and hacking" scene in The Social Network, Jesse Eisenberg, as Mark Zuckerberg, can be seen wearing an Ars Nova T-shirt which originally belonged to Eisenberg himself? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Ars Nova (theater). If you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Aaaand it's apparently been removed, since another editor decided to remove the fact from the article's page. :-/ Well, we tried. RunnerOnIce (talk) 14:42, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Strike that. It was removed because it cycles throughout the day. :-p But the fact was removed anyway. RunnerOnIce (talk) 15:46, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_creation/Dr._John_Psarouthakis

Hello Don and thanks for the review.

I am trying to add references but how many do I need? ie if there are 1-2 referemces that cover most of the information for Dr Psarouthakis how do I put it in the article?

Basically it is a biographic presentation of the person. If I find all this info in a good source is it an adequate citation? and where do I put the reference number? to the start? nowhere? only at the last section?

Thank you for all the help! Periklis — Preceding unsigned comment added by Perrygogas (talk • contribs) 08:40, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Periklis,

Your article has several problems:

• First we need references that establish notability: WP:NOTE Notability has to be established by independent sources: WP:SOURCES All your references seem to be directly associated with or come from the subject, so they don't count. One good external link I found [1] seems to talk about the subject as an entrepreneur, not an engineer which is what the lead says.
• The lists seem to be copied directly from his online CV, which could be considered a copyright violation:WP:COPYVIO
• You have 2 paragraphs and 19 lists, it should be the other way around.

We need to establish notability first from third party independent sources. Since this is a WP:BLP (Biography of a Living Person) more rules apply. The article should have foot notes to each assertion showing it's source. Sorry, more reading: Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners with citation templates and Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners without using templates

I think your subject is notable, but we need proof. Try to find references in the external links list that are independent. Those are the ones you want to use. Then see how much you can write about the subject using the information that is available from those sources and add a reference in the article for each reference as you used them.

I hope what I have said is not too confusing. I know it is very complicated, but this is what we hope makes the Wikipedia an accurate resource.

If you have specific questions, you can always leave a message here or add {{Help me}} to your talk page. More help is also available at Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Help desk and on IRC at #wikipedia-en-help ^connect Thanks for your efforts. --  :- ) Don 19:07, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Astrological aspect (Hindu Astrology)

Thanks.I am not that experienced yet but can you change the page title to "Astrological aspects (Hindu astrology)". Thanks again. Kind regards.Soni Ruchi (talk) 04:25, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

Soni,

I do not think that emphasizing or bolding in an article title is possible and if it is, I think it would be frowned upon. I will check to be sure if you insist. I see you have link from the astrology article. Very nice. --  :- ) Don 22:23, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

I've been ANI stalking...

Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

I'm not actually involved in it, but I was reading ANI and saw this thread, titled User:Dcshank. Also noticed that no one notified you, so here ya go. Best of luck. RunnerOnIce (talk) 20:32, 10 October 2012 (UTC)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Save22

Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Save22 The second reviewer to review this article said the following, "You raise some good points. Perhaps I was a little hasty in declining your submission. If you'll resubmit it, I (or some other editor if they beat me to it) will re-review it once more, as I do believe I might have made a mistake in saying that it wasn't notable enough. Thanks for bringing this to my attention."

I resubmitted because of it, now you(the third reviewer) seems to have rejected it because the second reviewer declined it, I submitted this on the advice of the second reviewer. For good measure, I include a new ZDnet article referencing the app in this submission.

I don't want to get stuck in this loop of getting declined because a previous reviewer declined it. Gmon32 (talk) 08:25, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Gmon32,

My apologies. Those comments were on your talk page but not the article, so I did not see them. The last reviewer is fairly new and perhaps did not know how he could have reversed his decision, it is a little complicated. Since it was declined twice, and no changes were made (which happens a lot), I was not going to reverse the last reviewer's decision. I will review your article in the next hour or so. Thanks for telling me the situation. --  :- ) Don 15:49, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Article submitted entitled "SOFTWARE MEDICAL DEVICE"

Dear Don,

There appear to be two persons (of which you are one) who've reviewed this submission (title is mentioned above) and left comments indicating it could perhaps merge with (and thus implying its pretty much "the same subject as") the article called "medical software". This, in my view, is not quite correct. If i may, i'll try to explain why below.

The 'umbrella-like', non-risk-orientated concept of medical software is actually very vast and has been around for 3 decades or so. It generally encompasses lots of things, such as "embarked" software (helping operate or pilot a given machine or instrument in a medical domaine, under instruction or "operation"), "static" medical programs (having absolutely no diagnostic or therapeutic function, but still being used in one form or another in a medical domain) and other forms of software that are loosely (and yet correctly) called "medical software".

Nonetheless, and in a domain that is separate and very much "apart" from this, the area of MEDICAL DEVICES (of which there are perhaps 10,000 distinct TYPES in europe and perhaps a similat number in the USA, despite a totally different classification system that sets them a world apart too!) exists as a very distinct category of products. Though vast it may be, its expansive and rather complex in terms of the sheer numbers of families and types that exist. But here's where it gets interesting. Within this clearly defined product type there is now, for the first time ever, a category of pure MD that is qualified as a "software" MD (update in 2007 to the european medical device directive 93/42). It represents a fascinating delve into definitively acknowledging that a "non-visible" (virtual) product is now, for the first time, seen as a "standalone" medical device. Please refer to definition in the MDD 93/42 rev 2007 for details.

And what does this mean? Well, to more clearly explain why this category can be "set apart" from the more general (and NOT herein 'all-encompassing') term "medical software", i would also point out the following important consideration: You can, and already do, have lots of "medical software" programs (notice i didnt say 'products' here, nor do i exclude them) that don't in any way fall under the "definition" of a medical device. Subject to licence agreements, these can be programs that are shared or used in a myriad of different ways or they could indeed be "marketable/commercialiazible" products in their own right that can be sold or distributed and, though doing this means they would fall under any applicable commercial laws, they wouldn't as such "require" marketing authorizations by medicines regulators in the same way as pharmaceuticals and MDs do (e.g. though obtention of "CE" marketing as a medical device in EU, or through the 510k process for a MD in the USA).

Naturally, the factor driving the trend for this distinction is risk management in order to protect users. Regulators (ANSM, FDA, MHRA...) in western countries want to promote product innovation whilst simultaneously upholding minimum reasonable performance and safety considerations. Hence it is sometimes said that this very new area of Software MDs is emerging (rapidly) as a terrifying one for regulators, owing to the rate of innovation being right now in a state of "explosion" (revolution in smartphone, tablet, appstores...). In terms of trying to explain this through an analogy, i'd say that "bread" is still commonly sold and continues to be subject to commercial laws that you'd expect. But, for your average coeliac patient, you can't expect the lady running your kind-and-cheerful next door "bakery" to produce "Gluten-Free Bread" that is widely sold and marketed (and labelled) as being appropriate to the needs to this particular patient group right across the EU (at least not without checking the processes used to make this 'special' bread and then providing a sort of 'licence' for this special bread to be allowed to be sold whilst making this claim). Similarly, in terms of devices that are "standalone software", they make specific 'claims' in relation to their diagnostic and/or therapeutic ability. Other software in the medical domain, whether embarked or not, DO NOT do so.

Summary: There is an important distinction that is made between a "software MD" and a non-decision-focused (zero autonomy and zero risk), static software program that simply does what you tell it to do (in your role as a HCP or patient). Indeed its the same story for those that simply "replace" paper storage of medical information records. By being either "algorithm-loaded", "alert-driven" or a "doctor-in-your-pocket" in their own right, the "software MD" category that i tried to explain a far cry from the other category. Regulation has not tightened up enormously in this area without good reason (for yet another example of such regulation please refer to: "medical device data systems" (MDDS) category, also created in US in recent years).

I do acknowledge, having re-read the article on medical software, that there are 1-2 points that bear direct relevance to some uses of medical software. However, aside frome these points (that i propose to remove), I firmly believe this subject/article needs an existence in its own right. May i kindly ask that you how recommend i might modify / adapt (shorten? simplify?) the article i submitted so that it becomes more comprehensible? (taking into account the clear & important distinction that i mention above)

Thank you in advance for your guidance and kind regards,

Damien McKeon — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mckeond (talk • contribs) 22:45, 11 October 2012 (UTC)

Damien,

Let me be direct, because 1) I don't have a lot of time right now and 2) it is 2am here and I don't have a lot of time right now. But, I repeat myself. Being merged does not mean they are the same, it means they are related, either a variation or a subdivision of. Medical software has major problems, mentions medical devices already, and is relatively short for it's subject. One half of your article is regulations and discounting the regulation stuff is short for any subject. I don't see a problem. The best solution at this time, in the interest of over all quality, would be to take two okay articles and make one better article. Hopefully adding your information as a separate section to Medical software will make it more complete as a subject page. Sometime in the future when Medical software is 100kB's long, then it will be broken into individual articles. --  :- ) Don 08:00, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for your edit on Su-a Lee. Looks much better with the pic resized. Still getting to grips with things. I have received permission by text for both the pics used - but, still awaiting completion of the form and email to Wikipedia etc.

Thanks again.Intagen (talk) 08:20, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Boredom

I'm bored and feel like page-stalking. :-p Updated my Userpage, if you're interested. Also, thank you so much for everything you've done for me the past couple of weeks--I've really appreciated it, so much. :-) It's like having a protector. RunnerOnIce (talk) 16:16, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

I saw your user page earlier. I would be interested in seeing your stuff, if you like. You can email me. The Wiki can be very intimidating, I know from experience. Nothing I would not do for a newbie who shows promise as part of a team. Next time we are in NYC, you can do us an off Broadway tour.(We went for New Year's Eve 2012, but could not get north of 40th Street) I forgot street numbering so I checked map and Ars Nova can not get much more off Broadway without swim wings.

If you're bored there is always WP:AfC which needs help big time then there Wikipedia:Community_portal/Opentask.

Time for real work here and taxes due Monday :-( --  :- ) Don 16:39, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Have emailed you. :-) When dyou think you'll be in NYC again? If you're here New Years or earlier, I can get you comp tickets (though I'm not sure we're doing many more shows before then), and we're doing a New Years Eve extravaganza that will be somewhat pricey but totally awesome--20s themed, with a ton of entertainment. New Years is tough for getting around the city, but if you're coming in via Grand Central, Penn Station, or Port Authority, it's fairly easy to catch subway transit here--closest stations that would help you avoid Times Square would be at 57th and 7th or Broadway, but there might be some that are even easier around 10th or 11th, albeit further away (will look into it). If you're coming from JFK or La Guardia, not sure what would be the easiest way to get here, but will let you know. Also, I get pretty much every notification about every off or off-off Broadway event, ever, so can totally help guide you around here. :-)

Re AfC, have suddenly become busy at work again, but might go on later. Hope yours is going well! RunnerOnIce (talk) 17:00, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Wow, small world. I used to hang out at F&M when in high school. Way before your time, I'm sure. I'll hit you later from your page. Thank you --  :- ) Don 17:15, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Did you really? No idea you were originally from Lancaster. Awesome, though. RunnerOnIce (talk) 18:34, 12 October 2012 (UTC)

Kindle Writer Article

Thanks for reviewing Kindle Writer but it was failed due to unreliable sources. Please can you explain what you mean.

Kindle Writer is a software product and full details are supplied on the Kindle Writer website which I have included with the article. On the website are testimonials, reviews from users etc. What do you need for reliable resources? If I add links to users who have created books with Kindle Writer,

Users http://www.kindlewriter.co.uk/review-kindle.htm

Reviews

http://www.the-digital-reader.com/2011/07/23/review-kindle-writer/ http://miexperienciakindle.blogspot.co.uk/2011/07/kindle-writer-crea-tus-libros-para.html

or links to forums where people talk about the software, is that what you want? Do I send you a copy of the product as evidence that the software exists ... I don't know what I need to do.

I welcome your suggestions

Thanks Fred Harding (talk) 07:06, 14 October 2012 (UTC) Fred Harding

Hi Fred,

The first and main hurdle with any article is to establish that is is notable enough for inclusion. The decline reason I used was the most obvious because, your two references were the Wikipedia, and the Wikipedia can not be used as a reliable reference. Your external link is to the Official website which may be reliable, but is not independent. The main thing that must be proven is that the product is notable by references from independent sources. I think you have included one above. However the blogspot.co.uk is not usable, blogs and forums are not considered reliable sources because there is no editorial oversight. There are two fairly short pages that explain the basics: WP:NOTE and WP:SOURCES. I think the Kindle Writer is probably notable, we just need to prove it. I hope I have explained the problem. If have any other questions just respond back here, or at the AfC Help desk WP:AFCHD. There is also live help on IRC. Thanks for you efforts. --  :- ) Don 08:07, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

P.S. I changed your two Wikipedia references into what we call Wiki-links. They simply point to the appropriate Wikipedia article where needed. Usually the first occurence on a page. --  :- ) Don 08:23, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Mughal Artillery

The Mughal Artillery is listed as a new article review, but it is tagged as a copyright violation. If you can be of assistance, please do so. --DThomsen8 (talk) 14:48, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

 Fixed How did you get my name for this article? --  :- ) Don 19:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Easy, your user id is on Talk:Mughal Artillery. Was there a copyvio? --DThomsen8 (talk) 22:14, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Hummm... Ok, makes sense. No, the book is public domain. He/she was doing good job of summarizing, and good that they added that tag, so that it got fixed up correctly. Just need to provide reference to the original source. Thanks. --  :- ) Don 22:17, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

Sir I have an doubt. These images are suitable for Article. Please make answer on my talk page.--Goldduck58 (talk) 06:20, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Evelyn Robinson

Thank you so much for your help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glad 2B Mad (talk • contribs) 08:30, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

You still have 2 bare URL's reference 19 and 20. I can't figure out how to get to them and retrieve a title. They should be covered. --  :- ) Don 08:36, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

AFC Backlog Elimination Drive

Hi there, on the AFC talk page you mentioned that the last BED was on September 23. Did the WikiProject create a sub-page like this or did you guys basically just say, "review and you get a barnstar"?--Dom497 (talk) 23:56, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Hi Dom,

Nothing so fancy. Just dropped notices like the above section 29, I think. A page that that would be cool, might get some people moving, but I think any scoring in AfC would have to be very carefully thought out. It is quality we are looking for, we already have plenty of quantity. --  :- ) Don 00:02, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Ya I know, but just in general, would you be interested in seeing a page created for it (I can create it)?--Dom497 (talk) 00:09, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

It looks like a lot of work. I think it would motivate some people. Feedback is always good for anyone, and we don't have AfC statistics any longer. I think it's worth a shot if you're willing to put forth the effort. As I said before, if it is to motivate competition, it would have to be carefully done so as to no degrade quality. I think anything is worth a shot, but I'm not sure that the people who remain at AfC are much motivated by trinkets and baubles. If someone needs stroking all the time, AfC is the last place you want to work. --  :- ) Don 00:21, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

So now comes the part that I know you will love (sarcastically)! If I can get one or more users to assist as reviews for reviews, we can insure quality remains. With this proccess, there will definatly be a delay in giving out the rewards/barnstars by several months as to make sure quality is still priority.--Dom497 (talk) 00:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't have a lot of definitely free time for the near future, but I will volunteer, I'm not here to make friends (this will guarantee that). I think months is a reasonable time frame. --  :- ) Don 00:39, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Ya, just remember that I am not committing to anything just yet. :P --Dom497 (talk) 01:00, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Hey Dom,

I'm assuming you saw this stuff? I was digging, looking something else and saw this and others: Wikipedia:WikiProject Articles for creation/Backlog Drive 300 article back log going back 18 months. --  :- ) Don 05:17, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Actually, no I never saw that page. Did you guys review the reviewed articles in that drive?--Dom497 (talk) 23:28, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

That was before the time of me being seriously involved. There is more stuff lying around. Go to special pages and search for prefix "WikiProject Articles for creation" in WP and WT. --  :- ) Don 23:38, 15 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you take a look at the awards for the drive that I've included and tell me which ones should be changed (if any)? Thanks!--Dom497 (talk) 00:54, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

You're asking me to comment on the awards only? Not the rules, spelling, grammar, etc.? Psychologically, the awards don't matter as long as they are rare, unique, coveted, i.e., an award. Wiki-poop will work if nobody else has it. I think the awards are fine, especially the brownie. --  :- ) Don 01:07, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

I haven't asked you about the rules, spelling, etc yet because I'm still working on that.--Dom497 (talk) 18:38, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

NP, understand completely. I was just going to ask if ok that I do some touch up to page. Your instructions appear to primarily be for manual reviewing and some of the decline part is for redirects. I would also make the suggestion that it run from 00:00 UTC on November 1 through to 00:00 UTC November 30, that is exactly one month. Still trying to get my head around the processing and accounting part. --  :- ) Don 19:14, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

You do realize that I just copied everything from the page you showed me above and I'm just changing/adding things now. Anyway, ya you can edit the page if you want, I have no problem with that!--Dom497 (talk) 19:29, 16 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you please read the comment I made on the AFC talk page?--Dom497 (talk) 13:20, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Guidance regarding citations

Hi Dan,

First, thank you for your help in getting my username changed.

I have been working on an article for Dr. Christenbury. I have recently entered in more citations but still have some more to go. Recently I requested confirmation from the American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery (ASCRS) to verify Dr. Christenbury is a member. The reply email is as follows :

Hi Ivan, I was forwarded your email. Dr Christenbury has been a member in good standing of the American Society of Cataract and Refractive Surgery since 1996. I don’t have a citation or link, per se. What exactly, do you need? If you need to credit the information, perhaps you can use this email as a citation. Please let me know if this will suffice. Thanks,

Cindy Sebrell Director of Public Affairs ASCRS ASOA 4000 Legato Road, Suite 700 Fairfax, VA 22033 Direct: 703.788.5753 Cell: 703.975.7740 www.ascrs.org www.asoa.org

Is there any way to use the e-mail as a citation to verify that info?

I am having difficulty getting citations from other associations as well and am wondering if written proof from these associations is enough for Wiki. Your guidance and help is greatly appreciated, thank you.

Also, I just noticed in the preview that my username shows as "Christenburyeye", the old username, instead of the new one. It just changed a few days ago, so will this eventually update?

Christenburyeye (talk) 19:42, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Let me check on your user name change. References must be public and verifiable by anyone with reasonable effort. Public means generally available to the public, not a posting on some sub-directory of some server somewhere. --  :- ) Don 19:47, 19 October 2012 (UTC)

Footnotes/references

Ok. I have no objection --Goldduck58 (talk) 04:09, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Unfortunately not having much luck making it simple. Will do more research. --  :- ) Don 04:13, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Sir I have problem with table. How can i Merge cells in a row. How can I add subtitle in header.--Goldduck58 (talk) 04:17, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Can you show me what you have and what you want to do? Wiki markup can be confusing. --  :- ) Don 04:22, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I will be busy for a while here, so give me a little time please. --  :- ) Don 04:29, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

In article Ahsham (Mughal Infantry) Pay tables requires merging of some cells with same name with in one caption.--Goldduck58 (talk) 04:49, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Is that what you wanted? When using rowspan or column span, ignore the entry for that number of rows or columns that would normally be there. --  :- ) Don 05:38, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I tried. But failed. Please help me.--Goldduck58 (talk) 05:46, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Is this table the way you would like it?

Class	Rank	Qadimi(Old)	Jadidi(New)	Remarks
Suwar(Mounted)	Hazari Duaspah(Tow Horsed)	Rs.45, 40, 32	Rs. 40, 35
	Id. Yakshpah (One Horsed)	Rs. 22, 20, 17	Rs.20, 17 and 1/2
Piyadah (foot)	Sadiwala	Rs.9	Rs.8
	Mirdahaha	Rs.8	Rs.7
	Sair(Remain)	Rs6, 5 1/2, 5	Rs. 6 1/2	Cash Rs.6 and additional jagir, 8 annas

I just grabbed the first table. I did not see the other tables. --  :- ) Don 05:49, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

I am indian. If you want to talk with me on chat I have no problem--Goldduck58 (talk) 06:00, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

Cool. I have good friend in Kochi. You are probably 13.5 hours ahead of me. Late for me now. Maybe tomorrow? I am usually on #wikipedia-en-afc ^connect.
Keep working on tables. I am sure you will figure it out. --  :- ) Don 06:10, 20 October 2012 (UTC)

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ahsham (mughal infantry)

Sir I added many images to this article. please see them add suitable captions of them. If you wish to remove unsuitable images. I have no problem.--Goldduck58 (talk) 14:06, 21 October 2012 (UTC) Hi Goldduck58,

I think it looks very good, but I'm not an expert. If you do something terrible, I'll tell you. Don't worry too much others will adjust your article over time. I have been reviewing different citation methods and I think a Harvard method would work best. Today, I will adjust what you have done so far, then you can continue citations as you wish. Please stop calling me Sir, or I will have to use Sahib Goldduck58. --  :- ) Don 14:30, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Majka Burhardt Article

Greetings! Thanks so much for taking the time to review my page. This is the third submission of the Majka Burhardt article that I have made and the third time that it has been rejected. I have gone through the sources many times to upgrade them in a way that seems to be in compliance with the Wiki culture, but am still a flailing Wiki neophyte! Whaaa! (grown woman crying)  :-)

I definitely want to learn how to do this better, so I am wondering if you can clarify a few things for me...mainly, can you tell me which sources are reliable and which are not? Or, if you can't help me with this, is there a forum where I can discuss this with others in a way that is efficient and supportive?

Many thanks for your time on this fine Sunday.

Best, JS — Preceding unsigned comment added by OffGridJulia (talk • contribs) 18:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Dear JS,

Please don't cry, it only the Wikipedia. Many people fail to grasp the concept of notability. For example, Majka Burhardt is a author, professional climber, and mountain guide. That might be notable to you or me, or notable if I did it. But, it's her job. It's like saying I'm notable because I go to work in the morning. Being recognized by totally unrelated sources for excellence in her job would be notable.

To be honest, I think I quit going down the reference list when I saw the last group of eight or ten were who she has written for. Checking those, the last two from the Economist and VOA I think are good. She did not write them, and they are about her, so actually the last two references are wrongly used. The one from Afar magazine was good until I found the link pointing to her page. That kind of makes the whole thing appear biased. Your article would probably benefit by removing all the irrelevant links of who she works for and what she has written. Like me, most reviewers will give up after so many.

Another thing is WP:NPOV. I think you have done better than many, but one rule I have is that after three or four items in a list, it is advertising, and not NPOV. Which shows up here:

including Climbing [17], Alpinist [18], Ski Journal [19], The Explorer's Journal [20], Men's Health [21], Afar [22], Forbes.com, Voice of America[23], and The Economist [24].

Pick the best two or three, maybe four.

Even though it is only three, I get the same feeling with:

the American Alpine Institute in Bellingham, Washington;[2] Colorado Mountain School in Estes Park, Colorado;[3] and Mooney Mountain Guides in New Hampton, New Hampshire.

It would be better to fix your references to give information, not just a link, and list it as:

the American Alpine Institute,[2] Colorado Mountain School,[3] and Mooney Mountain Guides.[4]

Then, give the complete information in the reference. If people want to know more, that is why they are there.

That is my opinion. There is good reason to ask others, if you have not already, and get their take. Good luck, and hang in there. -- :- ) Don 20:05, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Anthony "Tiny:" Biuso

Dear Dcshank, Ive written an article which was declined initially by a reviewer that stated that (Anthony "Tiny Bubz" Biuso) wasn't even listed on the Wikipedia pages of the bands he's listed as playing on. Now I wrote him back and told him that was not true and all he did was apologize and say i needed independence references other than from the artist like a magazine or book, etc... Well i have listed a book entitled "Sticks 'N' Skins which has 500 drummers from the last 70 years that was just published as one reference, two magazines one of which is Modern Drummer which is one of the most popular and respected Drum Magazines today and two major drum manufactures that not only endorse Anthony Biuso they have him on their Web sites as well. (Sabian Cymbals and Evans drum heads) as well as a few other independent sources.He is also interviewed on the popular drum site and magazine Drummer Zone. Is more than that required? I did actually add a few more references as well that he has no control over. If Being the current drummer for T.S.O.L amongst all that "Tiny Bubz" has played on is worth being a notable then please assist me in getting this article accepted. I would love to know why the book and Magazine's and Major Drum manufactures web sites are not acceptable, as well as i just added Fender guitar's site which also list Biuso as drummer for T.S.O.L. There are five additional references.Thank You for the consideration, (Punkinfo (talk) 21:45, 21 October 2012 (UTC)).

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A barnstar for you!

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	For all your help in preparing the AfC backlog elimination drive with me! Thanks a lot! Dom497 (talk) 23:45, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks very much Dom497. Not expected and really not necessary, but appreciated. I just try with what time I have to keep things going here. -- :- ) Don 23:50, 21 October 2012 (UTC)

WikiProject:Articles for Creation October - November 2012 Backlog Elimination Drive

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

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If you dont mind.. That will be great — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bentpuc (talk • contribs) 19:34, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Unité de formation et de recherche médicale Paris Île-de-France Ouest

As I understand it, that article is notable because a) it's a medical school, and b) it meets the guidelines set at Wikipedia:Hospital#Notability. If it needs more sources, I think we could pull some from fr:Université de Versailles-Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines, which is the main university article. Legoktm (talk) 20:10, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

All three sources appeared to be related. -- :- ) Don 20:16, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

Daniel James - Phelps, Dodge & Co.

Thanks for the edits 28OCT12; sent you email as well. Ted

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	For your work in archiving the AfC help desk. I had a look at how much work that archiving would entail and shrank away - you wade in time and again. A big thank you! Huon (talk) 16:34, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

Thanks Huon. It's really not so bad once you get a system figured out. Still, I hope the bot comes back sometime soon. It's pretty much mindless work, maybe appropriate for me. :-p -- :- ) Don 17:05, 29 October 2012 (UTC)