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Recent edit at Cannabis (drug)

You may be interested in my recent addition to the Talk page of Cannabis (drug). This further highlights some peer reviewed medical journals. Rlsheehan (talk) 15:10, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

More recent edits on the article today involve an editor removing the section you worked on the other day. I wonder if you've got this article on your watch list? I ask because it seems to be under attack, along with other cannabis-related articles, right now and could use extra watchers. petrarchan47tc 22:31, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is, but today's been a mess. Thanks for keeping my heads up -I'll look now. --Cyclopiatalk 00:09, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
No problem, it is probably more of a long-term request. petrarchan47tc 00:37, 13 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like we could use you again when you're available. Parts of the "safety" section that seemed well con-sensed are coming under question. I said I would ask you to come by and comment. petrarchan47tc 01:23, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, however I suspect you'll be disappointed. --Cyclopiatalk 09:40, 18 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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He's right, you can't copy verbatim copyrighted stuff. --Cyclopiatalk 19:17, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Andiva

Hello! You created the article about Andiva, I think this article will be interesting to you.

Ivantsov, A. Yu (2007). "Small Vendian transversely Articulated fossils". Paleontological Journal 41 (2): 113–122. Free temporary link to pdf

Andiva, Ovatoscutum and Dickinsonia had an no carapace. It was a fantasy of the Mikhail Fedonkin, which is not confirmed by fossils. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 22:28, 20 January 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks! In fact I wrote "in the original Fedonkin reconstruction" or something like that. I'll look at the paper. --Cyclopiatalk 22:38, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Can you point me where in the paper it discusses the existence or less of the carapace hypothesized by Fedonkin? --Cyclopiatalk 22:44, 20 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
The hypothesis of the Mikhail Fedonkin not discusses in published articles. I discussed this idea with Andrey Ivantsov. In the published articles you can find that imprints of the Proarticulata are usually strongly compressed, distorted, curly or sprained (particularly this pertains to Ovatoscutum, Yorgia, Andiva and Dickinsonia) that disagrees to the carapace hypothesis. For example read Feeding traces of Proarticulata - the Vendian Metazoa Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 21:10, 23 January 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Thanks, but if I want to fix the article, I need WP:RS explicitly refuting it, otherwise I sin of WP:SYNTHESIS. I however made clear it's just the original interpretation. --Cyclopiatalk 09:50, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
For this reason I not create the new articles in Wiki and not edit the existing Wiki articles about some Ediacaran organism. I do not want to the promote invalid published information, and I can not refer to the not published information. We shall wait the new scientific articles. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 14:25, 24 January 2013 (UTC))[reply]
Then what are you doing here? Anyway, thanks a lot, and I'll be cautious in the future: however I'm curious to know why such new information is unpublished. --Cyclopiatalk 14:28, 24 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
It is published: for Yorgia see Ivantsov 2010, for Dickinsonia see Ivantsov 2010, Gehling 2005, Dzik and Ivantsov 1999, Runnegar 1982.
Chondroplon is known from single deformed fragmentary specimen, and can be Dickinsonia (Hofmann 1987).
WTF? You said it wasn't published, above, when I asked for papers. I'll look. --Cyclopiatalk 21:08, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
In these articles the Fedonkin hypothesis is not discussed and mentionned, there broughted facts which disagrees to his hypothesis. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 21:25, 26 January 2013 (UTC))[reply]
But that's fine as well -I mean, if they explicitly state an alternative interpretation ,then I can put it in the article. --Cyclopiatalk 00:27, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Shortcoming of these article is not about Andiva. Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 08:13, 27 January 2013 (UTC))[reply]

There are two ways to express disagreement or doubt to the hypothesis:

  1. Ignoring. The idea is not popular amongst inhabitants and broad scientific public, is not accepted amongst specialists. No need in special immediate disclaimer. There are more hot topics.
  2. Disclaimer (for example, Kimberella)

There are more hot topics. M. Fedonkin proposed that Kimberella had a dense shell and a proboscis with two teeth. He had interpreted this animal as oldest mollusk (Fedonkin and Waggoner 1997, Fedonkin, Simonetta and Ivantsov 2007). This idea is become popular amongst inhabitants and scientists, is become the base for other hypothesises. However many characters of the imprints contradict the hypothesis of a shell and proboscis. The general body plan of Kimberella is substantially different from those previously proposed. (Ivantsov 2009, Ivantsov 2010, Ivantsov 2012) Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 21:05, 26 January 2013 (UTC))[reply]

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I know it's late in coming, but I posted a reply for you in Wikipedia talk:Notability (events)#Isn.27t language here too vague.3F. I would love to get more ideas on how to tweak the wording there. Location (talk) 20:44, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Taxobox for Vendian/Ediacaran fossils

I offer not to use generator Template:Taxonomy for Vendian organisms. Their classification and interpretation are weakly designed, inconsistent and changed in the time.

Arumberia is not trace fossil. See Kolesnikov et al. 2012 Other articles about Arumberia

links to pdf-files are temporary Aleksey (Alnagov (talk) 15:41, 27 January 2013 (UTC))[reply]

Thanks a lot!! Edit the page as you see fit. --Cyclopiatalk 16:47, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Ouch! You've used a template to send a message to an experienced editor. Please review Wikipedia:Don't template the regulars or maybe listen to a little advice. Doesn't this feel cold, impersonal, and canned? It's meant in good humor. Best wishes. — alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 17:27, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Are you just kidding, or are you really thinking that the addition of that image with that caption is a standard content dispute? --Cyclopiatalk 17:30, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Tell me which one of these it is: WP:VANDTYPES. It may be that it's one of these: WP:NOTVAND, but as you can see, those are not vandalism. I would say that a change in infobox image with any reasonably descriptive caption is in fact a content dispute. You may legitimately disagree with that, but there is no way it's vandalism, and you should not have used twinkle to issue a vandalism warning template. Your failure to AGF strikes me as WP:TWABUSE.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 17:42, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
"Uploading shock images, inappropriately placing explicit images on pages, or simply using any image in a way that is disruptive. It was trolling, pure and simple. --NeilN talk to me 17:53, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Given that I never used the word "vandalism", nor does the template I used, there's little you can wikilawyer around the definition of vandalism. It was trolling, and as such I marked it as disruptive editing, and that it was disruptive is clear. --Cyclopiatalk 18:03, 7 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Misquoting

This [1] is not what I said. Do you have the ability to understand "A is true, and B is false"? True, the articles are nice and well-written. False, they do not belong on the home page. The two facts are independent of one another. I get the feeling that you are more interested in winning and argument and gloating than in coming to some sort of shared understanding. Jehochman Talk 19:47, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

You get wrong feelings, and yes, that is what you say: it is a verbatim copy of your post. I honestly do not fathom what's wrong with having "nice, well written" articles on the front page, and I am asking a honest question. --Cyclopiatalk 20:00, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I specified on the thread we're talking about their placement on the talkpage. The question still stands, and I am still baffled. --Cyclopiatalk 20:04, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]
(If you want, the question is exactly about the fact that "the two facts are independent of one another" -in my opinion they're not independent at all, and that's what I do not understand).--Cyclopiatalk 20:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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