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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, January 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 looks Australian artillery in World War I Op-ed: Hawkeye7 on no-win scenarios

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USCGC Tampa (1912)

Hello Cuprum17,

could you please explain me what "1930" means in this sentence?

"At 1930 that evening, as she transited the Bristol Channel, the warship was spotted by UB-91."

As it can’t be the year (as the ship was engulfed on September 26th, 1918), I thought it was the time of day, hence I added an h, which you removed: "19h30". I’m a little bit confused.

Best regards from Berlin, Herwarth — Preceding unsigned comment added by Herwarth (talk • contribs) 22:59, 18 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Herwarth: 1930 in this sentence is the 24-hour clock time for 7:30 PM. The American military time convention uses no colon between the hour and the minute, as in the first edit you made (i.e. 19:30) nor does it use an "h" (i.e. 19h30). The 24-hour clock is used militarily to avoid confusing 7:30 PM with 7:30 AM and in many military history narratives where certain events are told in sequence the convention is carried over in the narrative. Occasionally some authors in describing a military event or series of events will use a variation in the 24-hour military clock style that uses the style "1930 hours". I hope this helps and greetings from the state of Kansas in the United States! Cuprum17 (talk) 00:45, 19 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CLXXVIII, February 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Works on the Gallipoli Campaign, Battle of Perryville and US 1st Infantry Division

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Service main image discussion - Coast Guard in particular

Hey, I was wondering if you'd be interested in providing any input at Talk:United States Space Force#Lead image, specifically about the Coast Guard lead image since it looks like the discussion may expand to that (and I know it's one of your primary topics). Thanks!Garuda28 (talk) 19:23, 21 February 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIX, March 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on female computers, Nick-D on the Israeli Defence Forces

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April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive

Hey y'all, the April 2021 WikiProject Military History Reviewing Drive begins at 00:01 UTC on April 1, 2021 and runs through 23:59 UTC on April 31, 2021. Points can be earned through reviewing articles on the AutoCheck report, reviewing articles listed at WP:MILHIST/ASSESS, reviewing MILHIST-tagged articles at WP:GAN or WP:FAC, and reviewing articles submitted at WP:MILHIST/ACR. Service awards and barnstars are given for set points thresholds, and the top three finishers will receive further awards. To participate, sign up at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_History/April 2021 Reviewing Drive#Participants and create a worklist at Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/April 2021 Reviewing Drive/Worklists (examples are given). Further details can be found at the drive page. Questions can be asked at the drive talk page. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 17:23, 31 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Stable Door

Hi I've just created Operation Stable Door, if you're inclined to review it that would be very useful. best regards Mztourist (talk) 08:17, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mztourist: I looked at the article and everything looks good for a B-class article except that there are a couple of paragraphs missing citations. Fix that and I'll be happy to assess it as a B-class article. Thanks for your contribution to the understanding of the Vietnam War operations. Cuprum17 (talk) 13:12, 7 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks Cuprum, I've added one ref but details are lacking for the replacement of a couple of teams, the available reports just refer to the MIUWS 23 at Qui Nhon and then later reports refer to IUWU-3 and the same for MIUWS 22 at Nha Trang then refer to IUWU-4. Mztourist (talk) 04:58, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mztourist: The Cutler reference I put in the article kind of covers the replacement problem by flat stating that there were five IUWU units in country in early 1968. Hope that helps...however, now that I have contributed to the article I don't feel that I should change the class of the article to "B", even though the referencing question is solved. Suggestions? Cuprum17 (talk) 14:14, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, I don't have a copy of Cutler, so that's good to have. I also just created a page for the Strike Assault Boat about which there's very little information, does Cutler say anything about them? Regarding the page assessment, can just wait for a bot or reviewer to assess it. regards Mztourist (talk) 02:58, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cutler does not mention the Strike Assault Boat or STABRON 20. Cuprum17 (talk) 13:43, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks anyway, seems there's very little written about them and I've probably exhausted the sources. regards Mztourist (talk) 06:44, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Cuprum, I've just created Light SEAL Support Craft and was wondering if Cutler mentions it? regards Mztourist (talk) 05:49, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I checked the Cutler source and he doesn't mention the Light SEAL Support Craft. I am checking a couple of other sources but I don't think they will be of much help. Stay tuned... Cuprum17 (talk) 14:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks, much appreciated, they really seem to be little known vessels. To complicate things further it seems that in 1967 the SEALs used a boat called the Seal Team Assault Boat, which abbreviated to STAB - the same acronym used for the 1970 Strike Assault Boat. There was also a Medium SEAL Support Craft, but again there's very little available information. Mztourist (talk) 04:55, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Mztourist:No joy on my other sources. Sorry. Cuprum17 (talk) 13:59, 5 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Cuprum, thanks anyway, that's the problem with trying to write about little-known vessels I guess. best regards Mztourist (talk) 04:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The Bugle: Issue CLXXX, April 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on Montgomery's doctrine and Nick-D on Mussolini's wars

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Greetings!

@Cuprum17: I hope this finds you and your family well. I've been mamaging to beat the odds every day and so far so good. Best wishes!

Pendright (talk) 05:55, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Pendright: Hey! Good to hear from you. I hadn't seen much activity on your talk page (one of the few that I follow) and figured you must be staying out of trouble; at least as far as Wikipedia is concerned. I have started and stopped writing several small articles in the last few months. Somehow I just can't quite get them massaged into a final form. My edits have mostly been corrections of other peoples mistakes. I have a tendency to be able to see others mistakes in material but not my own! My machine shop hobby has taken up quite a bit of my time lately, probably too much if the truth be known. I miss being in my job shop when I was in business, but thankful I don't have to put in the hours to pay the bills. I'm getting out more now that I have received my two COVID shots and the threat of passing something along to friends and family are reduced. I hope you are staying healthy, my Wiki-friend and thanks for the shout-out! Cuprum17 (talk) 13:47, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]

@Cuprum17: Great to hear from you! I’m all vaccinated-up and staying well, thankfully! I have a few articles I think might be worthy of FAC, and I plan to nominate them by the end of the summer. Although I have not ben too active on Wikipedia, I have been reviewing AC article nominations for the past two years. Not all of them have been success stories, but some have been well received. In any event, it has been a positive experience for me, and I have seen improvement in my own writing and have a better appreciation and understanding of the rules of grammar. Give it a try; my guess is you would be good at it. I like the interaction with others, and I think you might too. Thanks for keeping in touch, and enjoy the summer.

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXI, May 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick- D and Hawkeye7 look at intelligence gathering, doctrine and strategy

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXII, June 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick-D on RAAF aircraft, Hawkeye7 on mission command and nuclear secrecy

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIII, July 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Peacemaker67 and Nick-D on World War I

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXIV, August 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on Commonwealth armies and an Australian spy, Nick-D on the American Revolutionary War and RAAF mine laying Op-ed: RobDuch on United States coastal defenses

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"Bernie Webber" reverted

You have reverted my one-word edit to "The Finest Hours". In the "Plot" section it starts "Bernard 'Bernie" Webber", but after that it's all "Bernie", "Bernie", "Bernie". Then suddenly only FOUR WORDS after the last reference to "Bernie", it's "Webber and his crew". Not everyone reading WP has an IQ as high as yours. For people who have the short-term memory of a goldfish, (there are such people and it's not a convenient life), is it too much to ask that this last reference to "Bernie" should be as "Bernie Webber"? 202.142.52.94 (talk) 11:55, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I object to the tone of your post on MY TALK PAGE. I find it insulting. Do not post here again, please. Cuprum17 (talk) 12:05, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

You are being over-sensitive. There is no "MY TALK PAGE". User talk pages, like all other WP pages, are for the development of the encyclopedia. That is what I was doing. Yes, my tone was rather sharp, but I believe I also have reason to be offended by your simple reversion of what I consider to be a reasonable change. Would you prefer it if I had put my "offensive tone" in public on the article Talk page? I am discussing it here in private. WP editors are supposed to resolve matters by reasonable discussion. I believe my original post made a reasonable point and asked a reasonable question (if you disregard the tone. I have said why I did that, let it be quits at that). Do you consider it unreasonable that after so many references to "Bernie", the last reference should be to "Bernie Webber" rather than just "Webber"? 202.142.52.94 (talk) 12:42, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

I asked you not to post here nicely once, and I will ask again. Please do not post on MY TALK PAGE again; it is MY TALK PAGE because I control what is posted here. I can delete this whole conversation on a whim, if I wish. You do what you want on the "The Finest Hours" article. I am done. Cuprum17 (talk) 13:48, 11 September 2021 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject Military history coordinator election voting has commenced

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on Australia and the UK in Iraq and Afghanistan Op-ed: Nick-D on writing about military procurement

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXXV, September 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on Australia and the UK in Iraq and Afghanistan Op-ed: Nick-D on writing about military procurement

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, October 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Nick-D on British conscription and German warship raiders

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J. William Kime Article

I noticed the "thank you" note from you regarding my recent edit to the article I previously created on former U.S. Coast Guard Commandant J. William Kime. I went ahead and removed the stub tag from the article and submitted a request for WikiProject Maryland to reassess the article's current Stub assessment from them, although I am not sure what kind of response I will receive because WikiProject Maryland is currently listed as semi-active. Any further assistance you can provide with regard to that article would be most appreciated.--TommyBoy (talk) 23:30, 29 October 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVI, November 2021

Your Military History Newsletter Project news: From the editors; awards and honours; contest results Articles: Last month's new featured and A-class content Book review: Hawkeye7 on Canadian junior officers in World War II

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The Bugle: Issue CLXXVII, December 2021