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I see you reported me to the administrator page. I can't frankly understand your attitude. I did not breach the "3R" rule, and finally only put a POV tag on the Greek genocide article. The comment by one of the users is preposterous: I did not delete sourced material, but only rephrased it in a less controversial and more NPOV form. I believe you've been overzealous and oversaw how the two users who reverted my bona fide edits are engaging in simultaneous attacks against other users who are in disagreement with that POV. 87.9.140.146 (talk) 23:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
You may not have breached WP:3RR, but you were edit warring. Edit warring is disruptive even if you think you're right. You should have gone to the article talk page after being reverted the first time (see WP:BRD). clpo13(talk)23:41, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
I would like to make you aware that the first revert (18:55, 9 April 2016 Alexikoua) was based on false reasons because I never amused myself with a "disruption of sourced content". In fact, I did not even remove sourced content, but only rephrased it in a more balanced and nuanced way. The second revert (19:18, 9 April 2016 Dr.K.) started talking of "edit-warring", but in fact that user is engaging in her/his own edit wars with other users who do not share her/his same point of view.
In any case, I stated my arguments on the talk page and I shall leave it at that. It is a pity that Wikipedia becomes a platform for nationalist propaganda or an outlet to vent resentment against other parties rather than trying to be what it was supposed to be — a balanced encyclopedia that reflects the state of the art of the scholarly debate through a balanced language. 87.9.140.146 (talk) 00:39, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
I thought I'd tell you anyway just in case you see the similarities in usernames and mistake me for him in in future. Adam9007 (talk) 15:38, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
As per What Every Science Student Should Know, I do not see how this can meet wp:NBOOKS. The only reviews are from Oakland Press, from Oakland County, Michigan (seems to be the home of one of the students); Yonhap News Agency, of South Korea; and the Dartmouth Undergraduate Journal of Science, which is a student paper. The AMA Wire article is not about the book but is about the students themselves. What do you see as meeting GNG? LaMona (talk) 00:18, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
You can filter Special:Log in more detail. You can filter different imports and new users. [1][2]
MediaWiki wikis can handle bigger file uploads. The new limit is 4 GB. [4]
Changes this week
Wikimedia has a new backup data center in Dallas. Because of planned work on this, you will be able to read but not edit the wikis for a short period of time on both 19 April and 21 April. This will start at 14:00 UTC and last for 15 to 30 minutes. [5]
There is no new Mediawiki version this week. This is because of the data center test.
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on April 19 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
You recently offered a statement in a request for arbitration. The Arbitration Committee has accepted that request for arbitration and an arbitration case has been opened at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others. The scope of this case is Gamaliel's recent actions (both administrative and otherwise), especially related to the Signpost April Fools Joke. The case will also examine the conduct of other editors who are directly involved in disputes with Gamaliel. The case is strictly intended to examine user conduct and alleged policy violations and will not examine broader topic areas. The clerks have been instructed to remove evidence which does not meet these requirements. The drafters will add additional parties as required during the case. Evidence that you wish the arbitrators to consider should be added to the evidence subpage, at Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case/Gamaliel and others/Evidence.
In regard to my edit on wasserman Schultz. I had reverted an edit done by another editor that REMOVED the material under the 2012 race, while leaving the 2012 heading. That was an edit that was unconstructive and I will leave it to you to sort it out and correct it. Is that okay? The article in question has races going back to 2006 including all upto the 2014. The editor wished to insert information on the 2016 race and apparently did not know how to add a new section. , which is what they should have done. I will leave her article alone and will leave it as is as I merely wanted someone to fix it after my first revert was reversed to avoid an edit war. Thank you for your attention to her article and the the desire to correct it. Have a blessed day. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE98:1510:4CEF:D74C:D98C:4A0E (talk) 15:54, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
Mistake in my technical requests
I screwed up. I should not have stated that most sources don't use the comma for Conrad Hilton, Jr. and W. S. Stuckey, Jr., even if that's true of most 21st century books. The point of WP:JR is that we have our own style, without comma, except for subjects that can be shown to uniformly use the comma (and we haven't found an example of one of those yet). If I put those back with a more correct rationale, will you still think it's not uncontroversial? Dicklyon (talk) 00:24, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
@Dicklyon: After reading through the extensive discussions at WT:MOSBIO, I think I made a misjudgment in contesting those moves, especially since the sources I found were less than ideal for indicating comma usage. You can move them as you wish and I won't object. clpo13(talk)18:58, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
No make sense for such edits [7]. User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (who marked these articles for speedy delection) is very known for trolling and conflicts. In category there are 1,013 articles and most of this articles have the same arguments who marked (by Hullaballoo Wolfowitz) articles but User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz inserted delete-tags to several articles created by one user, which is in conflict. Better would be a warning for Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (intensification of the conflict, Wikipedia:Harassment against user, which is in conflict) and later maybe administrator's mediation beetwen Hullaballoo Wolfowitz and one user. Subtropical-man talk (en-2)18:11, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
All I noticed is that the building doesn't appear notable, something Hullaballoo Wolfowitz likely noticed as well. If you have a problem with HW's behavior, I'd advise you to take it to WP:ANI. clpo13(talk)18:25, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
User:Hullaballoo Wolfowitz inserted delete-tags [8] only to several articles created by one user, which is in conflict. In Category:Skyscrapers between 100 and 149 meters there are 1,013 articles and most of this articles have the same arguments to leave but for Hullaballoo Wolfowitz only articles created by one user, which is in conflict are to delete? Even Stevie Wonder noticed trolling and destructive behavior by user Wolfowitz. Second case: most of 1,013 articles of Category:Skyscrapers between 100 and 149 meters are also non notable and to remove? When you create AfD's pages for other articles of Category:Skyscrapers between 100 and 149 meters??? ;) Subtropical-man talk (en-2)18:39, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
WP:GEOFEAT says: Buildings, including private residences and commercial developments may be notable as a result of their historic, social, economic, or architectural importance, but they require significant coverage by reliable, third-party sources to establish notability. I'm not going to go through every article in that category to see if there's significant coverage on each and every one, but this one clearly lacks it. clpo13(talk)18:47, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Problems
Wikimedia tested a new data center last week. This meant that the wikis could be read but not edited for 45 minutes on April 19 and for 20 minutes on April 21. [9]
When the data center was tested, new edits were not shown in the recent changes log for 20 minutes. They are in the logs now. You can read more about how to find the edits.
Unread notifications were sometimes counted incorrectly. This has now been fixed. [10]
Changes this week
Wikimedia Commons will have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Commons. This will happen on April 26. [11]
It will be easier to choose if you want to watch files you have uploaded with the upload wizard. [12]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from April 26. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from April 27. It will be on all wikis from April 28 (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on April 26 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
The "Save page" button when you edit will be called "Publish" instead. This is to help new editors understand what it does. It already works like this on some wikis. [13]
Substantially reduced server load for item and property displaying (phab:T132662)
There are currently some issues with the order of latitude/longitude inn coordinates in the query service map visualization. It will be fixed tonight.
Removed unsupported sort and dir parameters from the wikibase.api.RepoApi JavaScript module. This may break user JavaScript calling getEntitiesByPage (phab:T119856).
Worked on new flyers for institutions that want to cooperate with Wikidata and developers wanting to use our data (will be published on Commons once they're done)
Moved forward with internationalization of the query service interface (not on translatewiki.net yet but being worked on)
Worked on making it possible to extend SPARQL queries in simplified natural language version. It will also no longer add query prefixes when editing the query. Those are not live yet.
Fixed a bug where admins got a blank page when trying to view deleted revisions (phabricator:T132645)
Investigating issues with bad suggestions for properties when adding new statements (phabricator:T132839)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The visual editor now works when you use Internet Explorer 9. [14]
Problems
There was a security problem with the MobileFrontend extension. It showed information that had been oversighted. This has now been fixed. [15]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 3. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 4. It will be on all wikis from May 5 (calendar).
Pages could be added to new users' watchlists by default when they edit them. New users could also by default get email notifications when pages they watch are edited. This is discussed on Meta. [17]
That editor got a warning for refactoring other users' comments from you then did it again. I will support you if you now report them since is a serious infraction. Ogress18:39, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
Eric Barron/Penn State Sexual Abuse Controversy
Well, I won't belabor the point. But I fancy that the exclusion from President Barron's page from any mention of this matter cannot be sustained in the long run. No doubt various people, with a closer association to Penn State than I have, will try nonetheless. I should be surprised if their efforts were ultimately successful — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.15.18.142 (talk) 23:42, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
Wikidata weekly summary #208
Here's your quick overview of what has been happening around Wikidata over the last week.
Events/Blogs/Press
Past: OpenTechSummitslides for SPARQL intro at OpenTechSummit
Our Main Page now has a section for popular items to show you what is trending on Wikidata based on several people editing an item over the last few days
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Wikiversities now have better access to Wikidata. They can use data from any page on Wikidata on any page on Wikiversity. This happened on May 3. [18]
Users are invited to try Cross-wiki Notifications on all wikis. This is the last test session before the release by default, scheduled for May 12th at 23:00 UTC. [20][21]
You can use keyboard shortcuts to open the visual editor (meta+V) or the wikitext editor (meta+E) (on certain wikis, even if you have chosen a favorite editor). [22]
Uploading files bigger than 100 megabytes on Wikimedia Commons required to opt-in in your preferences. This is not necessary anymore. [23]
The UploadsLink extension is now available on Wikimedia Commons. [24]
Deleting a translation unit page didn't remove the corresponding content from the translation page. This is now solved. [25]
Translation suggestions based on Apertium are now available on Mediawiki.org. [26]
Problems
MediaWiki 1.27.0-wmf.23 has been rolled back from Wikimedia wikis, due to a performance issue. [27]
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 10. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 11. It will be on all wikis from May 12 (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on May 10 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Today, in categories, a page titled "11" comes before "2". We plan to reorder that: "2" will come before "11". Please tell the developers if the change will cause problems. [28]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Some image thumbnails now load faster on mobile. They also take up less bandwidth. [29]
Problems
Last week's MediaWiki version was late on some wikis. [30]
Changes this week
Special:Notifications will have "mark as read" buttons for each day. The non-JavaScript version will get it this week. A JavaScript version will come later. [31]
Wikis can now locally decide what wikitext they want the signature button to produce. [32]
A one-time welcome message for users will now be shown in the wikitext editor. This will include existing users. [33]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from May 17. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from May 18. It will be on all wikis from May 19 (calendar).
Using self-closing tags like <div/> and <span/> to mean <div></div> and <span></span> will not work in the future. Templates and pages that use these tags should be fixed. When Phabricator ticket T134423 is fixed these tags will parse as <div> and <span> instead. This is normal in HTML5. [34]
would you be willing to reinstate my collapse in the reference desk thread (as it was a totally proper collapse, as anyone would agree)?? Quixotic Potato reverted it in bad faith a few times already...the collapse itself isn't that big of a deal but I don't like the idea of him getting away with acting against policy and arrogantly thinking he can just get away wit it...that way he'll get the message without having to make a big case about it via ANI...68.48.241.158 (talk) 17:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
You now see a warning message on pages that try to use {{DISPLAYTITLE}} but it doesn't work because it doesn't match the page's actual title. [35]
Problems
Commons had problems with server lag. This meant that it took longer time for files to turn up in categories. [36]
Changes this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 May. It will be on all wikis from 26 May (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on May 24 at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
Future changes
All HTTP access to Wikimedia sites and APIs will stop working. Some bots still use HTTP. They will need to use HTTPS instead. This will happen on June 12. [37]
I'm still unable to make any edits on the 2016 Summer Olympics page unless an admin unlocks edit protection for me to edit out the Concerns and Controversies section and add a sub-section to it. And until the page protection has expired, I can do absolutely nothing about it as I don't have admin privileges to make any edits. VGN34D (talk) 23:57, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
@VGN34D: In the future, when you use {{edit semi-protected}}, please state exactly what changes you want made so someone can make those changes for you. The template isn't for requesting additional user rights or removal of the protection level. clpo13(talk)03:36, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
America vs the United States of America
Check the origin of the word "America" in the Oxford English Dictionary.
The United States is not all of "America." Think!
America is all of North, Central, and South America combined.
The United States of America is geo-politically located within the geographical boundaries of North America.
Remember... Wikipedia is not specific to the United States. Other people around the world have access to the content and should not have to decipher United State slang when the United States is specifically referred to, rather than the entirety of America.
Personaly speaking, I am not a citizen of the United States and am tired of seeing and hearing your media outlets refer to the United States of America as explicitly America. Your citizens are not the only Americans. Everyone born upon the landmasses known as North, Central, and South America are all Americans.
Think! This is website is supposed to be unbiased.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
There is now a standard way to get the target of a redirect page from a Lua module. [38]
Problems
A new way to handle rollback was introduced. It broke some tools and scripts and was reverted. This will be re-planned after review. [39][40]
CentralNotice didn't work in some older browsers. This has now been fixed. [41]
Changes this week
When you edit a file or category page with the visual editor the rest of the page will be shown in its normal place. [42]
A change to the <charinsert> feature could break some user scripts. Contact Bawolff if the "click to insert special characters" links in the edit window break on your wiki. [44][45]
Elasticsearch will be upgraded on Wikimedia wikis this week. This should not affect you, but if you have problems with the search function this is probably the reason. [46]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 May. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 June. It will be on all wikis from 2 June (calendar).
Meetings
You can join the next meeting with the VisualEditor team. During the meeting, you can tell developers which bugs you think are the most important. The meeting will be on 31 May at 19:00 (UTC). See how to join.
2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey
The Board of Trustees of the Wikimedia Foundation has appointed a committee to lead the search for the foundation’s next Executive Director. One of our first tasks is to write the job description of the executive director position, and we are asking for input from the Wikimedia community. Please take a few minutes and complete this survey to help us better understand community and staff expectations for the Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director.
An arbitration case regarding Gamaliel and others has now closed and the final decision is viewable at the link above. The following remedies have been enacted:
DHeyward (talk·contribs) is admonished for engaging in incivility and personal attacks on other editors. He is reminded that all editors are expected to engage respectfully and civilly with each other and to avoid making personal attacks.
For conduct which was below the standard expected of an administrator — namely making an incivil and inflammatory close summary on ANI, in which he perpetuated the perceived BLP violation and failed to adequately summarise the discussion — JzG is admonished.
Arkon is reminded that edit warring, even if exempt, is rarely an alternative to discussing the dispute with involved editors, as suggested at WP:CLOSECHALLENGE.
The community is encouraged to hold an RfC to supplement the existing WP:BLPTALK policy by developing further guidance on managing disputes about material involving living persons when that material appears outside of article space and is not directly related to article-content decisions.
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
MathML/SVG is now the default <math> rendering mode on Wikimedia projects. [47][48]
Changes this week
The history page can tell you if a page on your watchlist was updated since you last visited it. This now works the same way in Vector as in other skins. The change broke local designs on some wikis. This will be fixed this week. [49]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 June. It will be on all wikis from 9 June (calendar).
Hello everyone, welcome to the June 2016 GOCE newsletter. It's been a few months since we sent one out; we hope y'all haven't forgotten about the Guild! Your coordinators have been busy behind the scenes as usual, though real life has a habit of reducing our personal wiki-time. The May backlog reduction drive, the usual coordinating tasks and preparations for the June election are keeping us on our toes!
May drive: Thanks to everyone who participated in last month's record-setting backlog reduction drive. Of the 29 people who signed up, 16 copyedited at least one article, 197 copyedits were recorded on the drive page, and the copyedit backlog fell below 1,500 for the first time! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.
June Blitz: this one-week copy-editing blitz will occur from 12 June through 18 June; the themes will be video games and Asian geography.
Coordinator elections:
It's election time again; how quickly they seem to roll around! Nominations for the next tranche of Guild coordinators, who will serve a six-month term that begins at 00:01 UTC on 1 July and ends at 23:59 UTC on 31 December, opens at 00:01 UTC on 1 June and closes at 23:59 UTC on 15 June. Voting takes place between 00:01 UTC on 16 June and 23:59 UTC on 30 June. If you'd like to assist behind the scenes, please consider stepping forward; self-nominations are welcomed and encouraged. All Wikipedia editors in good standing are eligible; remember it's your Guild, and it doesn't run itself!
Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Jonesey95, Miniapolis and Baffle gab1978.
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
Wikimedia wikis now use AuthManager. If you have new problems related to logging in or being logged in, report them. [50]
Visiting Special:Notifications doesn't automatically mark notifications as read anymore. You can go between read, unread or all notifications on Special:Notifications. Notifications on Special:Notifications are grouped by day. You can mark every daily group as read individually. Notifications are displayed by groups of 50 on Special:Notifications and you can find former notifications by using navigation arrows. [51][52][53][54]
Changes this week
You can filter user contributions to hide minor edits. [55]
It will be easier to edit galleries with the visual editor. [56]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 14 June. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 15 June. It will be on all wikis from 16 June (calendar).
