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Due to temporary absence of home computer I am forced to edit from my phone. All blunders due to clumsiness not malice Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 10:38, 15 February 2016 (UTC

Normal service resumes (cross fingers!) Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 19:45, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

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The math bothers me

In your change of Feb 2013 to George Jeffreys, 1st Baron Jeffreys you give a date for second marriage as "1665-6". Yet the preceding paragraph has the first marriage as "1667". Could you re-check that? Shenme (talk) 01:19, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

Sure thing.

Ah-turns out 1665-6 was a sloppy reference to her father's year as Mayor. She married Jeffreys in 1679. Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 08:48, 24 May 2016 (UTC)

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Some questions and observations about an edit you made to Edward Hyde, 1st Earl of Clarendon

When you edit an article as you did here. Please do not split paragraphs that are covered by a citation without adding the citation to the first half of the now divided paragraph:

This time was not wasted. In later years, Clarendon declared that "next the immediate blessing and providence of God Almighty" he "owed all the little he knew and the little good that was in him to the friendships and conversation... of the most excellent men in their several kinds that lived in that age."[1] These included Ben Jonson, John Selden, Edmund Waller, John Hales and especially Lord Falkland. From their influence and the wide reading in which he indulged, he doubtless drew the solid learning and literary talent which afterwards distinguished him.[2] The diarist Samuel Pepys wrote thirty years later that he never knew anyone who could speak as well as Hyde. He was one of the most prominent members of the famous Great Tew Circle, a group of intellectuals who gathered at Falkland's country house Great Tew.

Text in the EB1911:

This wandering from the beaten track, however, was not without its advantages. In later years Clarendon declared “next the immediate blessing and providence of God Almighty” that he “owed all the little he knew and the little good that was in him to the friendships and conversation . . . of the most excellent men in their several kinds that lived in that age.”[1] These included Ben Jonson, Selden, Waller, Hales, and especially Lord Falkland; and from their influence and the wide reading in which he indulged, he doubtless drew the solid learning and literary talent which afterwards distinguished him.

So when you split the paragraph into two:

This time was not wasted. In later years, Clarendon declared that "next the immediate blessing and providence of God Almighty" he "owed all the little he knew and the little good that was in him to the friendships and conversation... of the most excellent men in their several kinds that lived in that age."[3] These included Ben Jonson, John Selden, Edmund Waller, John Hales and especially Lord Falkland, who became his best friend.

From their influence and the wide reading in which he indulged, he doubtless drew the solid learning and literary talent which afterwards distinguished him.[2] The diarist Samuel Pepys wrote thirty years later that he never knew anyone who could speak as well as Hyde. He was one of the most prominent members of the famous Great Tew Circle, a group of intellectuals who gathered at Lord Falkland's country house Great Tew, Oxfordshire.

References

  1. ^ Life, i., 25
  2. ^ a b  One or more of the preceding sentences incorporates text from a publication now in the public domain: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). "Clarendon, Edward Hyde, 1st Earl of". Encyclopædia Britannica. Vol. 6 (11th ed.). Cambridge University Press. pp. 428–434.
  3. ^ Life, i., 25

Your broke the support of the inline citation to EB1911 from supporting the sentence "These include..." So you needed to add the EB1911 citation tag to the end of the sentence "The diarist ...".

Also you added a new fact "who became his best friend". How do you know that and why did you not include an inline-citation for that fact?

In the same edit (or more precisely series of edits) you added several quotes. See Verifiability Poliy—It states "All quotations,... must include an inline citation that directly supports the material." To add the quotes to the article you must have got them from somewhere so please add them (if needed you will find two citations to the Goring quote in the article Cavalier).

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All points duly noted. The quotes were from a selection of Hyde's own writings. I will check the references. Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 13:43, 28 January 2017 (UTC)

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Hope the present reference is better. Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 20:19, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

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FRankly after so long I can'e even remeber making the edit. If it's wrong feel free to change it. Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 09:04, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

Great! Thanks. Ehmellookup (talk) 19:49, 12 March 2018 (UTC)

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Your last edit to William Brooke (MP, died 1643) created a confusing sentence. I have edited it to something that makes sense grammatically, but could you check it to make sure that I didn't change your intended meaning? Thanks, Leschnei (talk) 21:49, 2 November 2019 (UTC)


No that's fine thanks Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 22:04, 2 November 2019 (UTC)

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Francis Osborne, 5th Duke of Leeds

I've tagged the last sentence in the lede for this page, because it contains some pretty damning assertions that - especially given the entirely offline nature of the references section - I feel need backing up directly. Would be great if you could assist by adding a reference for this sentence. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Speaktorob (talk • contribs) 14:50, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

Hello- On reflection I think the tone is too critical- though I don't think anyone would claim him a one of the great Foreign Secretaries. I will check my sources and do a rewrite. Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 21:53, 17 December 2019 (UTC)

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Added the references. In fact I'd just been tsking a short break before doing the tedious work. Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 22:38, 21 February 2020 (UTC)

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Thomas Dillon, 4th Viscount Dillon

Dear Chrisdoyleorwell. The article Thomas Dillon, 4th Viscount Dillon is one of the many where you are a major contributor. I am busy trying to add more citations to the article so that it might pass something better than Start-Class in the next rating. I found nothing to support the statement you added at 9:31 on 12 Feb 2014 reading "He was briefly one of the Lords Justices". Do you still remember where you got it from? In Warner (https://archive.org/details/historyrebellio00warngoog/page/n30) I found: "... [Charles I] appointed Lord DILLON and Sir W. PARSONS Lord Justices of that kingdom, but finding the former not agreeable to the committee and the English Parliament because of his intimacy and alliance with the Earl of STRAFFORD, his Majesty imprudently cancelled the commission ..." and in Bagwell (https://archive.org/details/irelandunderstua01bagw/page/312) "As soon as Wandesford's death was known Robert Lord Dillon and Sir William Parsons were appointed Lords Justices.". So this Lord Justice was well a Dillon but perhaps not Thomas. However, one often finds contradictory information in older sources. I hope that the source in which you found the information is a different and more explicit one than Warner. With many thanks for your precious time (a lawyer's!) Johannes Schade (talk) 13:29, 9 May 2020 (UTC) Hello- Sorry for the confusion. If Lord Dillon was Robert, this would be the future 2nd Earl of Roscommon Best wishes Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 17:24, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Dear Chrisdoyleorwell. Thank you very much for your answer. Yes, it seems to be a confusion. I found yesterday evening that Carte also says it was Robert, the 2nd Earl of Roscommon. I feel that it is quite sure that Thomas never was Lord Justice and I will remove that from his article. Best regards, Johannes Schade (talk) 08:55, 10 May 2020 (UTC)

Robert Dillon (judge)

Dear Chrisdoyleorwell. The article Robert Dillon (judge) mainly deals with Robert Dillon (c. 1540 – 1597) but also contains material that belongs to another Robert Dillon, whom I call Robert Dillon of Newtown (following Ball). Oxford Dictionary of National Biography has articles for both of them, called Dillon, Robert (c. 1540–1597) and Dillon Robert (d. 1579?) respectively. You can see these two Robert Dillons also on the family tree of the article Lucas Dillon. The existing article "Robert Dillon (judge)" should be cleaned up and a new article should be created for "the other judge Robert Dillon". I feel that this honour should be yours. Otherwise, I might do it. Best regards Johannes Schade (talk) 11:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)


Many thanks I was aware of the confusion and always intended to get aound to it someday. Lockdown isn't the ideal time but I will do my best. Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 11:28, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

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Embleton

Thank you for your edits - I am there right now, so I was tickled to see it so recently edited. (I do get it that you have come at it from the perspective of Robert ... but even so! Cheers DBaK (talk) 22:07, 27 July 2020 (UTC) Cheers! Chrisdoyleorwell (talk) 17:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

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Many thanks. Dormskirk (talk) 20:38, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

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