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WikiProject Disambiguation Talk Request

This is a form message being sent to all WikiProject Disambiguation participants. I recently left a proposed banner idea on the WikiProject Disambiguation talk page and I would appreciate any input you could provide. Before it can be approved or denied, I would prefer a lot of feedback from multiple participants in the project. So if you have the time please join in the discussion to help improve the WikiProject. Keep up the good work in link repair and thanks for your time. Nehrams2020 21:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

Sixth Party System

I am genuinely puzzled. Why is it important to have an article on Sixth Party System if what it says is that the idea is a null, rejected idea? If I saw the point, I might be persuaded to agree, or suggest another way to achieve it; but I don't. Septentrionalis 15:17, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the question. I elaborated a bit at the AfD. In part, I have a very low bar for notability or admission of academic topics. In the absence of any subject-specific guidelines, I'm very reluctant to send academic content out the door.--Chaser T 09:42, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

I'm appealing to DRV, again. To make sure there's no slip-up, your copy is at User:Chaser/Sixth Party System. I look forward to what you come up with. Septentrionalis 15:15, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

PROPE

Hi, thanks for replying to my enquiry. A little unsure how to flag up an undelete request for prope. Would you mind pointing me in the right direstion? Thanks in advance.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.137.159.61 (talk • contribs)

Stub marking

Hello,

Thank you for your stub submission. You may wish to note that it is preferable to use a stub template from Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types instead of using simply {{stub}}, if you can.

Thanks!Eli Falk 10:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

edit

Hi there, this edit, by 86.41.222.250, was signed with your user name. I was just checking to see if it was in fact you. -MrFizyx 15:54, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

It wasn't me. Thanks for bringing it to my attention, though.--Chaser T 11:57, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Huh, thats plain weird. No problem though. -MrFizyx 13:50, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

WhoIS info. Incidentally, I am in Europe, but in Italy, not Ireland.--Chaser T 18:44, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

United States v. Hubbell

Do you mind taking a look at the United States v. Hubbell to see that I have done everything according to the portal's standards? --Ineffable3000

I did a minor copyedit, but I'm still somewhat confused about what the court ruled. Unfortunately, I don't have time to read the case myself, but I'll add it to my to-do list and hopefully look into clarification later. Thanks for your help!--Chaser T 12:13, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Shiny new buttons

Two weeks ago I couldn't even spell administratur and now I are one (in no small part thanks to your support). Now that I checked out those new buttons I realize that I can unleash mutant monsters on unsuspecting articles or summon batteries of laser guns in their defense. The move button has now acquired special powers, and there's even a feature to roll back time. With such awesome new powers at my fingertips I will try to tread lightly to avoid causing irreversible damage and getting into any wheel wars. Thanks again and let me know whenever I can be of use.

~ trialsanderrors 06:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Opus Dei RFC

After lots of NPOV problems, I have recently done a major rewrite on the Opus Dei article and am requesting comments on its talk page. I think the new page is better, but there are a lot of single-purpose accounts who have been edit warring with me over it. Could you look over the page and comment on whether the rewrite is an improvment and maybe help out in the ensuing discussion? --Alecmconroy 12:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

RfB typo

I think in Q1, you mean "avoid anything unilateral" rather than "invade anything unilaterally". I intend to ask an optional question, as well, but will probably support, so don't let the early opposer get you down.--Chaser T 05:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

lol completely intentional humor! - crz crztalk 05:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Is not correct!

No. People needing credits include me. I want admin. (Я сила редактировать. Я хочу кредит для редактировать)

--BoredLikeCardboard 10:01, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Article of Mine Gone? (Податливость назад, котор я умоляю!!)

Why my writings for vilnius gone? --BoredLikeCardboard 10:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Writing signature not again! (for article main) --BoredLikeCardboard 10:07, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Responses at User talk:BoredLikeCardboard.Chaser T 10:11, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

Have a Barnstar!

		The RickK Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
		I, Persian Poet Gal, award you this barnstar for all your hard anti-vandal work! *¤~Persian Poet Gal* ^(talk) 00:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Ooh! My first. Thank you very much, Persian Poet Gal.--Chaser T 00:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

"Marlie"

Hi. Thanks for the note; I've undeleted the article, but it's pretty short. That's probably one of the reasons someone tagged it as a speedy. I did, however, put cleanup temps on it, so it will hopefully catch some attention. I may try expanding it myself. - Lucky 6.9 17:30, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Reply at User talk:Lucky 6.9.--Chaser T 17:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

You bet. Good catch! I look forward to seeing how this turns out. - Lucky 6.9 17:33, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Problem with Daily Illini page

Hello. There's been a bit of a back and forth on the Daily Illini page about a false piece of information. One user has updated the "controversies" section of the article to add how the paper's Nov. 29 editorial incorrectly identified Rep. Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) as a Republican, which is accurate. But the user has insisted on inserting the fact that the Chancellor sent out an e-mail that same day to all faculty members that called the newspaper "a disgrace" and asked the journalism school to start a new paper. The user first linked to a Web site that list all e-mails sent out via Massmail, a method commonly used by the University administration to readch faculty, staff and students. While there was a Massmail that was sent out on Nov. 29, the e-mail was about W-2 tax forms. When thi was pointed out, the user then said the e-mail was FOIA'd by a local journalist and that the article would appear in the Champaign News Gazette, a local newspaper. Anybody who knows anything about the nature of FOIAs and the amount of time it typically takes institutions as big as the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign would question this, since that means the reporter filed the FOIA request that day and then had it processed by the University on the same day, as well as receiving the requested material on the same calendar day. According ot Illinois statute, the university could have up to 14 days and at least 7 days to respond to any requests, and the university certainly takes up that offer. Further, I have contacted the university's Dean of the College of Communications, Ron Yates (who I have had as an instructor and know personally) to see if I could get a confirmation on the existence of the letter, and he knew nothing about it. There is no "journalism school" at the university, per se; there is a journalism department within the College of Communications. If the chancellor really did request the journalism program to start a new paper, I believe it is safe to say that he would know of it. If you could address this problem as soon as possible, it would be appreciated.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Vagrant829 (talk • contribs)

Thanks for the note. I removed the sentence and left a note on the talk page at Talk:Daily_Illini#November_controversy_and_alleged_email and handed out 3rr warnings all-around. We'll see if that resolves the problem.--Chaser T 19:54, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Good work. -Will Beback · † · 08:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

The editor at the same IP address once again reverted the edit today. Something must be done, and I will be happy to assist. Vagrant829 08:43, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

2481

Did you know that you are number 2481 on this list? -- Jreferee 18:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Wow. Last place. I better get to work. Here's one more. Thanks for telling me.--Chaser T 19:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for voting on my administrator tryout.--Rat235478683--

My article again.

Hi Chaser, On the principle of the five pillars, I thnik Brookie is threatening the principle of freedom. As Brookie posted a protection on that title, I cannot edit it again. I consider this as a kind of vandalism'. Please be aware of this situation. I still have a strong belief on the accuracy and accountability of Wiki. User_talk: Hulaa

That's not exactly what the third pillar means. The idea is that Wikipedia is a free information resource for anyone to use passively. In principle, it is a freely-editable resource, as well, but this is limited by several guidelines that have the consent of much of the community, among them a notability guideline for companies and businesses. In any case, Brookie hasn't edited since your last message on their talk page, so I'd wait for a response and then try to discuss it as politely as you can with them. Best of luck. Feel free to ask me more questions as you want.--Chaser T 20:11, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Hi, thank you again for your patience/. I found that currently this issue is dealocked. I dont want to push this issue too much, but I do believe that there is a solution. I will try to cool down several days and seek a mediation on this dispute. I still consider Wiki as a place for information flows. User_talk: Hulaa

In re: Erie Doctrine articles

Hello again, Chaser. Right now, I am up to my eyeballs in law-school related work (and I have to apply to take the bar exam soon!), so I haven't had much time to do any editing here. Things will calm down a bit in a few months, so maybe then we can get some work done. Wikipedia is sort of a hobby for me, a hobby which I must unfortunately put aside when real-life concerns loom large.

On the plus side though, I will be able to practice law once it is all over :)

--Eastlaw 08:34, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Please delete my user pages.

I have decided to leave Wikipedia for now. I would be thankful if you could delete my user pages for me. Memmke 19:04, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm not an admin, but one seems to have attended to things. Hope to have you back sometime soon.--Chaser T 04:03, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

George W. Bush

Yes of course, Never Again. It's one of those things everyone fells as though they have to do once. I would have reverted it myself were it not for the swift and honorable actions of JForget. I will not hesitate to eat you. 03:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC) P.S. Please ignore my very bitter threatening Signature.

eLUXURY article?

Hi, I'm the one who added all the info to the eLUXURY article... so is it now possible for the deletion nomination to be removed from the eLUXURY page? I'm fairly new to WikiPedia and am not sure how that process works. Thanks. -- Vincentanton 23:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Normally AfDs run five days. They are occasionally closed early when there's no reason to keep them open, but it just depends on whether and when an admin sees it and decides to close it. In any case, leave it to one of the administrators watching AfD to decide what to do. Thanks for asking, first, and thanks for your great contributions to the article!--Chaser T 00:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Trustiness

Hi, I'm confused by your revert; WP doesn't provide redirects to incorrect meanings for other words either. "Trustiness" is an existent word, which means that either Trustiness should be an article on trustiness or it should be deleted. It should not be a redirect to an incorrect meaning or opinion on the word. --Espoo 07:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused about why you think it shouldn't be a redirect. My reading of WP:R is that it should be kept because it makes a duplicate article on Trustiness less likely, which would almost certainly be a dicdef in any case. A disambig page would be warranted if you want to provide a soft-redirect to wiktionary.--Chaser T 08:04, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Down syndrome picture caption

Sorry if my comment on the Talk page was slightly over the edge, vandalism can get you in a fighting mood mighty quick... Fvasconcellos 21:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

You're fine. I totally understand.--Chaser T 21:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Road Rules

why the hell did you delete that Road Rules stuff? Who the fuck are you? Are you close with production? No. Do you know anyone on the show or with it? No.74.195.3.11 01:49, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your very civil tone; 'tis appreciated. If you're referring to this edit, I suppose my edit summary was a bit harsh. Nonetheless, the reason I deleted it is because it was an unsourced warning from an IP who claimed to be an MTV exec. Such warnings are inherently suspect. In addition, there was a brief signed diatribe, left by you, that also did not belong in the article, not least of which because it was basically an extension of this signed conversation at the end of the article. That's why I deleted that Road Rules stuff.--Chaser T 01:57, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

Rushmore

I replied here: Talk:Mount_Rushmore#Appearances_section.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Blamblamblam (talk • contribs)

admin graphs

Your idea would be interesting to see. I don't make any graphs myself. Tariqabjotu and Petros471 (who is currently inactive on WP) did the earlier ones if you want to ask them. I keep copies of admin graphs here, please add any new graphs you find or request be made to that page :). Cheers, NoSeptember 14:28, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Rfa questions

In reference to your questions, why I ask them may be best answered here. Basically, I'm testing the candidate's understanding and interpretation of policy. I used to ask them of every RfA, but since I've had to cut back my participation I've taken the personal policy of only asking them of newly posted RfAs that don't appear to be a snowball accept and ones where only the generic questions have been answered. —Malber (talk • contribs) 17:56, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you for voting

File:In-the-dark.jpg

Thank you for voting in my RfA which at 51/20/6 unfortunately did not achieve consensus. In closing the nomination, Essjay remarked that it was one of the better discussed RfAs seen recently and I would like to thank you and all others who chose to vote for making it as such. It was extremely humbling to see the large number of support votes, and the number of oppose votes and comments will help me to become stronger. I hope to run again for adminship soon. Thank you all once more. Wikiwoohoo 20:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

Religion and terrorism pages

I like your idea, but I a have never done something like that before and do not know how. How would I go about doing this? KazakhPol 06:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

You'll want to start a subpage at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion and leave messages on the talk pages of all the articles subject to the discussion. Have a look at Wikipedia:Centralized discussion/Apartheid; unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have resolved anything, but perhaps you'll fare better. Good luck!--Chaser T 06:40, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

PETR PRUCHAKSHAKSHA

It's not nonsense, it's true. HE'S A NIGGER!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.61.114.215 (talk) 07:33, 12 December 2006 (UTC).

Sorry about the vandalism. My cousin is staying with us and he was fucking around on my computer.

Brisbane Catholic

We're working on sourcing it. It's being written by , the creators of the show, who are also the stars, so we can't really imagine how to reference it. DarkTurtle 09:38, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Patrick O'Riley

Hey, I am new to the user pages and I'm not sure what I did wrong on my page. If you could explain that would be cool. Thanks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by PatrickORiley (talk • contribs)

You're fine. It was my mistake. I came across your page during a maintenance task and thought you created a page about yourself in the space for articles (without the "User:" prefix), so I tagged it for speedy deletion. It's fine where it is.--Chaser T 18:12, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

re: User:86.148.84.73

It was another of the penis images vandals that have put the featured articles under assaults these last few days. They are getting more deceitful. I count 3 edits that didn't involve getting or removing penis images on the current FA since it went live! Circeus 01:28, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I've been thinking of uploading a smaller copy of that enormous scrotum closeup, since it's size in scrotum is quite small, and it's usually enlarged considerably for vandalism. Your thoughts?--Chaser T 01:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Don't give them more ammo. They already have a talent for locating the most annoying images. Circeus 14:45, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Input

In regards to the comment you made on this AfD Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/James_Kim_(timeline_of_death). Could you also stop by and give your opinion here Talk:James_Kim#Timeline.3F as we're having a consensus issue.--Crossmr 19:04, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Adminship

Congratulations, you are now an administrator! If you haven't done so already, now is the time to read Wikipedia:Administrators' how-to guide and the pages linked from the Wikipedia:Administrators' reading list before using any of your admin abilities. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me, or at the Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard. Best wishes, Warofdreams talk 14:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thank you, Warofdreams.--Chaser T 16:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Congratulations! Have fun with the tools! If you ever need help, feel free to contact me. =) Nishkid 64 15:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Nishkid.--Chaser T 16:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Well done! Let me know if you need any help with admin tasks. Regards and happy mopping! (aeropagitica) 16:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I will.--Chaser T 16:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Mazel tov. And if I ever get confrontational again, now there's something you can do about it! - crz crztalk 17:09, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

lol. Thanks, crz!--Chaser T 17:12, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for voting

I appreciate the feedback that I received during the RfA process. Unfortunately, I withdrew my candidacy. However, your participation is appreciated. I have made my New Years Resolution (effective immediately) to attempt to vote on at least 50 WP:XFD/week (on at least 5 different days), to spend 5 hours/week on WP:NPP, to be active in WikiProjects and to change the emphasis of my watchlist from editorial oversight to vandalism prevention. I have replaced several links that I had on my list to some that I think are more highly vandalized (Tiger Woods, Barry Bonds, my congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr., my senator Barrack Obama and Jesse Jackson). My first day under my newly turned leaf was about what I hope a typical day to be. I quickly found a vandal, made a few editorial changes to Donald Trump, voted at WP:CFD and WP:AFD, continued attempted revitalization of Wikipedia:WikiProject_Chicago and proposed a new stub type as a result of WP:NPP patrol. I hope this will broaden my wikipedia experience in a way that makes me a better administrator candidate. I hope to feel more ready to be an admin in another 3000 or so edits. TonyTheTiger 16:11, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Simpson vandal

Hey, I see you removed the ip that keeps deleting cats from the List of characters from The Simpsons, since they appeared to have stopped. That's fine, but I would like to alert you to the fact that they are kind of intermittent (I seem to have been the one to catch them every time, since I have the list watchlisted). They usually do these deletions once every few days, but it is always the exact same thing. So they may not actually have stopped. Just a head's up. Natalie 20:59, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Sure. You can add {{longterm4im}} to their talk page if it continues. Actually, they seem to be productive, now.--Chaser T 21:10, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

Yargh. I don't know what the vendetta is. Thanks for the tip on that template. They apparently have a static IP, so a block could actually work, but I would like to give them a chance to knock it off. (If I did relist them, it could go on the longterm noticeboard, yes?) Natalie 21:22, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

No, just send it to AIV. We can handle it there. Thanks, Natalie.--Chaser T 21:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

User:Westtexasman

You have blocked the User:Westtexasman. So far as I can tell the newbee was doing a right thing - removing unsourced negative information about a living person. See WP:BLP. Quite possible he is somehow involved in the matter the more reasons not to block him, IMHO.

Unless there is something I do not understood, I propose to unblock the guy Alex Bakharev 05:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, looks like he had good intentions and an edit war without any explanation got started. Sorry I was a bit happy on the trigger finger. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.--Chaser T 05:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks! Alex Bakharev 05:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

IP vandal 20.137.52.231

Hi, Actually this IP was warned with a test3 in November - did you not notice? Take care and thanks for your work here! Kla'quot 06:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I gave the test2 because the IP has a history of mixed contribs (some productive, some vandalism) and it may be shared amongst multiple people, though that's not completely clear from the whois info. Also, we're generally not supposed to block unless they've received the full range of warnings recently. See "Only list here if:" at WP:AIV and look at that list to see what I mean. Unrelatedly, the IP seems to have quit, now.--Chaser T 06:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Ethiopian Environment

I have completed the merge you may delete---Halaqah 21:42, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Membership

What are some benefits of becoming a member? I became a member but saw no use of it. As far as I can tell you can still do all the things that a non-member can do.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.3.15.129 (talk • contribs)

It's all explained at Wikipedia:Why create an account?. Thanks for asking!--Chaser T 22:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for responding so quickly, your info was helpful.

Anytime. That's what I'm here for.--Chaser T 22:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

Reported vandal

Sorry, they changed usernames rapidly, so I didn't list any(it was stupid of me), the latest one is mimicing my username with User:Ikanreed76. Again, sorry i kan reed 07:14, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Another user account just used was User:Deakke34, i kan reed 07:16, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Rossnixon's categorization at Abortion

Hello. I, indeed, attempted to initiate a dialogue on Talk:Abortion after my second revert of Rossnixon's edit. My post "Miscategorization," can now be seen below yours on the Talk page, and, in fact, when I went to post it I encoutered an edit conflict, as you had added your thoughts while I was still composing mine.

Also, I am a bit confused as to what you are referring to by "naivete." What part of Rossnixon's talk page convinced you that your initial assessment of the situation was incorrect? -Severa (!!!) 11:04, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the note on my talk page. However, the policy I apply in such situations is IAR. Protecting the quality of an article against edits that degrade that quality, and are widely objected to, is more important than 3RR. I don't like edit wars, but, in my experience on Abortion, I've found I've had to be "firm" more often with difficult editors than "fair." -Severa (!!!) 06:13, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Is something an issue? (P.S. Sorry about the ping-ponging replies. I know your user page states you prefer to keep discussion on one Talk page. I'll reply to you only on mine if that's what you prefer). -Severa (!!!) 06:18, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

That's alright. I understand. I always try to keep a handle on myself when I'm in a tense situation, and, usually, after the second revert I'll attempt to open a discussion on Talk. If the person continues to push even after the discussion has been opened, though, I usually revert it, even if it means IAR over 3RR. I see that as an attempt to be difficult and uncooperative. However, in this situation, it seems like all the parties involved are being cooperative and are open to discussion, so we're a long way from protecting the page, I hope. I think Homestarmy was unaware of the ongoing discussion on Talk and didn't mean to be difficult or defiant by reverting. -Severa (!!!) 06:39, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Orneryboy on deletion review

An editor has asked for a deletion review of Orneryboy. Since you closed the deletion discussion for (or speedy-deleted) this article, you might want to participate in the deletion review. Fethers 18:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC).

How do i do tilds

I need to know how to write ~ with out having to copy and paste them Wildman7856 18:37, 16 December 2006 (UTC)WildMan7856

Welcome

I actually just left this Wikiproject. I do not have enough time and literature to work on the Supreme Court projects with the group. However, I am still planning to do some contributions in the future. --Ineffable3000 21:01, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I removed my own message on your talk page. I didn't look at the diff, just the history. Oops!--Chaser T 21:02, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

Why?

Why cant you edit the top of a lot of pages. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.3.15.1 (talk) 00:50, 17 December 2006 (UTC).

Followed up on IP's talk.--Chaser T 03:16, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.3.15.130 (talk) 01:05, 18 December 2006 (UTC).

Unprotection

Hello, I noticed you recently unprotected an article on the Main Page per WP:NOPRO. I would like to mention that it may not be the best to take actions based on a very clearly disputed "policy". Cheers, ✎ Peter M Dodge aka "Wiz" ^{(Talk to Me) (Support Neutrality)} 01:35, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Do you have a problem with the unprotection, or the reliance on disputed policy? This is well-covered by Wikipedia:Protection_policy#Page-move_protection, as well.--Chaser T 03:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

David Ruben RfA

Chaser/Archive 4, thank you for your support in my RfA which passed on 13th December 2006 with a tally of 49/10/5. I am delighted by the result and a little daunted by the scope of the additional tools; I shall be cautious in my use of them. I am well aware that becoming an Admin is not just about a successful nomination, but a continuing process of gaining further experience; for this I shall welcome your feedback. Again, many thanks for supporting my RfA. :-) David Ruben 01:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

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