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Your GA nomination of Bin Tepe

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Regarding deletion of reference in Greek Dark Ages article

You deleted the reference of the following text: "Around this time, large-scale revolts took place in several parts of the eastern Mediterranean. Attempts to overthrow existing kingdoms were made as a result of economic and political instability by surrounding people, who were already plagued with famine and hardship." I did not put that text in the article, it was another editor, but I found the source recently and I decided to place it there anyway. Of course that source is not too reliable, but it's the only source. So putting "citation needed" tag is useless as there is no other source as far as I know. Maybe the solution is to change all the phrase and find a new reference. --Carlos Eduardo Aramayo B. (talk) 03:50, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, thanks for your reply. If the only source that supports that text isn't reliable, that would be reason to simply remove the text. I do think the article would benefit from a characterization of the LBA/EIA transition, and for that you might look at recent(ish) work by Guy Middleton and Oliver Dickinson. (I might eventually do so myself but I'm short on time at the moment.) Botterweg14 (talk) 16:45, 23 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Bin Tepe

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Proposed deletion of Glossa Psycholinguistics

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Proposed deletion of Semantics and Pragmatics

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Nomination of Glossa Psycholinguistics for deletion

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Nomination of Semantics and Pragmatics for deletion

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Thanks! I will use the tools sparsely but carefully! Botterweg14 (talk) 23:17, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Croesus

Thank you for adding a link to Ú (cuneiform) in the article on Croesus, much appreciated, but I am still not clear what "U₂" refers to, or what the combination "Ú/U₂" means. Can you further clarify, please? BobKilcoyne (talk) 06:07, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Heya, thanks for following up! U₂ is just an alternative notation for Ú. If it would be clearer, I would support removing the "U₂". Botterweg14 (talk) 18:59, 6 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks, and certainly that would be clear from my point of view. BobKilcoyne (talk) 06:19, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Gotcha, done, and thanks! Botterweg14 (talk) 22:54, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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REGARDING PARTIAL REVERSION OF ASSUWA

==History==

Chronology=

Assuwa appears in Egyptian, Mycenaean and Hittite records from the fifteenth century BC to the thirteenth century BC.

Egyptian records refer to it together with Keftiu of the Minoan civilization as of the Occident, suggesting a land to the west.[1]

The Linear B texts of the Mycenaeans identify it as a region (not a regular administrative district) dominated by the polity at Pylos associated with levies of rowers,[2] suggesting a location separated by water from the Peloponnese.

The region is likewise mentioned in six surviving Hittite documents including the Annals of Tudhaliya I/II, which gives a detailed account of a rebellion of a league of Assuwan cities in the aftermath of a Hittite campaign against Arzawan controlled territories west of the Maraššantiya.[3][4][5]

It is last mentioned during the reign of Ramesses III where it refers to "Assuwan allies" of Twentieth Dynasty Egypt.[6]

NOTE: Edited & merged w/ Location section

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Hey, I agree that the article is pretty weak but most of what you've copy-pasted here is actually still in the article. Among these bits, I removed the part about the Keftiu since it's sourced to a book from the 1940s (=very out of date), and we have better more recent evidence for placing Assuwa in the west. I removed the claim that Assuwa was a dependent of Pylos since that's a very surprising claim that would need clear verification and I wasn't able to verify it in the given source. But I'd be happy to have it added back if I made a mistake or if you can find another source for the claim. Botterweg (talk) 04:00, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe the chronological appearance of Assuwa doesn't belong in a section headed "Location?" I did that because my rework was going from the general to the specific. But now I've reworked the deleted material to address your concerns and to preserve the mention of Assuwa in three different culture's records over the three hundred years of its known existence. A brief synopsis of the changes:
1. The 1940s Keftiu/Isy translation in the second paragraph is replaced w/ one from 2006.
2. The third paragraph no longer characterizes the relationship between Pylos & Assuwa. Added Wikipedia link to Pylos.
3. You didn't say anything about the other three deleted paragraphs so they remain the same, except changing the terminus ad quem in accordance with the date of the records.

--Permanentaccounts (talk) 00:45, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Additional changes: add sourced text to Location, additional sources to same, consolidate language

--Permanentaccounts (talk) 17:01, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

curprev 22:33, 18 November 2024 Botterweg talk contribs 10,251 bytes −389 →Chronology: Removing statement that's based on a primary source, and isn't supported by the primary source as far as I can tell (I see the Keftiu mentioned in it, but I don't see Assuwa unless I'm overlooking something) undothank

Assuwa is called Isy in Egyptian records per the statement in Name.

--Permanentaccounts (talk) 22:56, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

curprev 22:46, 18 November 2024 Botterweg talk contribs 9,782 bytes −469 A couple problems here: (1) Redford describes the Assuwans as allies of *each other* not of Egypt (2) Redford doesn't use the association with Lukka to locate Assuwa (3) Redford does mention that the Lukka were a member of the confederation but other sources actually question whether this is the right reading of the text undothank

Looking for alternate translation. If confirmatory will rework.

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  1. ^ Palaima, T.G. (1942). When Egypt Ruled the East. University of Chicago Press. p. 62. ISBN 0-226-77198-9.
  2. ^ Palaima, T.G. (1991). Thalassa: L'Egee Prehistorique et la Mer. Universite de Liege. pp. 273–310.
  3. ^ Cline, Eric H. 1177 B.C.: The Year Civilization Collapsed. pp. 35–36, 40–41.
  4. ^ Rose, Charles Brian (2013). The Archaeology of Greek and Roman Troy. Cambridge University Press. pp. 108–109. ISBN 978-0-521-76207-6.
  5. ^ Cline, Eric H. “Achilles in Anatolia: Myth, History, and the Assuwa Rebellion,” in Crossing Boundaries and Linking Horizons: Studies in Honor of Michael Astour on His 80th Birthday, Gordon D. Young, Mark W. Chavalas, and Richard E. Averbeck, eds. (Bethesda, MD: CDL Press, 1997), pp. 189–210.
  6. ^ Redford, Donald B. (2018). The Medinet Habu Records of the Foreign Wars of Ramesses III. Brill. pp. 108–109. ISBN 9789004354180.