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I'm aware of the delay to this copy-edit and will be prompting Lamercer to start on it if no action occurs in 24 hrs. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 14:43, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. I have also been thinking of asking him/her. Borsoka (talk) 15:13, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
I've requested an update. If there's no response or editing in seven days I'll strike his acceptance. Cheers and HNY, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 02:04, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
I've struck Lamercer's acceptance and the request is now open again. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 01:14, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Thank for your action. Borsoka (talk) 03:07, 7 January 2014 (UTC)

Samuel Aba, King of Hungary copy edit request

Hello! I took up your copy edit request at the WP:GOCE page for this article. While working on the lede, I noticed a slight oddity. His birthdate is given as being either 990 or 1009. It was then mentioned that he or his father married a sister of King Stephen. Is this paradox due to a lack of available sourcing? Blackmane (talk) 08:32, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

Oops, never mind. I see that this is clarified in the later section. Blackmane (talk) 08:34, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
As the article isn't very long, I've done a first pass ce and I've noted that you've made a few follow up edits. Could you have a read over and see if it all stands up as you're more familiar with the material? I've moved a few things around to shorten it up a bit without losing the meaning (at least to my eyes) but you might see it differently. Regards Blackmane (talk) 08:54, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
Dear Blackmane, I highly appreciate your bold copyedit. I made some minor changes. If you do not agree any of them, please feel free to revert it. Now I can start a GAN. Thank for your assistance. Borsoka (talk) 12:36, 3 January 2014 (UTC)

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GOCE Requests

Hi Borsoka, just a quick note to ask you not to remove completed requests from the GOCE requests page without archiving them, as [1]. Thank you for telling us about the copy-edit to the article; I'll check out what's happened and archive it or leave it accordingly. In future though, if you don't want to archive it, please mark the request done and add a note with the name of the user who copy-edited it so we can archive the request. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 05:38, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, thanks. Borsoka (talk) 05:48, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Evangeline hasn't signed up for the January drive and isn't claiming credits for her work, and I don't think her copy-edit—although helpful—wasn't rigorous enough to bring the article to GA status, so I'm going to return it to the list. In the meantime I've hidden your request for Solomon of Hungary until one of your other requests is completed. If any of those are completed before we can archive and remove it, just remove the text between <!-- and --> from the request and leave an edit summary. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 06:41, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your action. Actually I really appreciate Evangeline's work, but I am not a native speaker of English. Baffle gab1978 (talk) 06:41, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
That's ok; I've hidden the request and amended my text above. Of course you may remove your request(s) at any time. I you do remove them, we prefer an explanation so we know nothing strange is happening (vandalism etc). I re-listed Béla I of Hungary because it's usual for copy-editors to mark requests done, not requesters, and I wasn't sure what Evangeline's intent was in leaving the request. Sorry for any misinterpretations on my behalf. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 00:02, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
I've now unhidden your new request. Cheers, Baffle gab1978 (talk) 22:59, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
Many thanks. Borsoka (talk) 03:54, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

Adelaide

I've declined your speedy request as I don't feel that it is a 'blatant' hoax. That criterion applies to things like 'Elvis is alive and playing nightly in Josef Stalin's bar on Mars'. Something that requires more specialised knowledge should go to AfD. Speedy is for admins to make decisions based on clear cut stuff. Looking into Google, I have seen a source quoted backing the article's statements. This may be unreliable. I would suggest that you take the article to AfD and place your evidence on the table there for a consensus to be reached. Peridon (talk) 20:17, 5 January 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Afro-Eurasian, would you specify why do you think that I made disruptive edits? I am afraid that your edits - the deletion of template messages without properly fixing the issues they mar - can easily be described as a distruptive behaviour. Borsoka (talk) 04:10, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Hello, Borsoka. I noticed that you constantly revert my edits and throw around inline templates left and right, even though there are sources to support the claims. It seems as though you are not trying to improve the article, and that you are not familiar with Wikipedia policy. I also took note that you are Hungarian, so I am not sure what your position on the article is. Perhaps we can communicate what needs to be improved with the article rather than revert and delete. Afro-Eurasian (talk) 04:53, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
I agree with you, that reverting and deleting is not the best solution. My concerns are marked in the article. If any of them is unclear, please use the article's Talk page. Just one remark, I think referring to other editors' nationality is not the best approach. As far as I know, no WP policy makes mention of it, therefore it is unrelevant in this context. Borsoka (talk) 04:57, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Great to know that we have an agreement. P.S. I am aware that there is no WP policy that makes mention of it; however, I am also aware that Hungarians in general are not too fond of Romanians, thus, Romanian history. I am not making assumptions, for all I know you could be of Romanian/Dacian descent, but it seemed odd that an Hungarian editor was, or at least what seemed to be, disrupting the article. Either way, I look forward to finding a solution. Afro-Eurasian (talk) 05:04, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Would you specify which of my edits qualify as distruptive? Why do you think that you approach (deleting template messages instead of fixing the problems they mark) contributed to the improvement of the article? Borsoka (talk) 05:10, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Well, as I'm sure you've noticed, almost every sentence you tagged has a proper source at the end, therefore it shouldn't need further explanation. It's a source - you can't add something unless it's in the source given. The specification needed tag is fine because I agree with it. However, as of now, the article is fine, and tomorrow I will work on the tags by adding what is required. Afro-Eurasian (talk) 05:23, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
None of the tags require further citation. The tags refer to specifically marked weasel words or mark the necesity of further clarification. Please read WP:Weasel before editing the article, because you seem to be unfamiliar with this specific policy of our community. Borsoka (talk) 05:28, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
I am familiar with WP:Weasel. You haven't marked any weasel words. I thought we were finally at an understanding... It would also help if you would find reliable sources to improve whatever it is you are wanting, since you are the one adding the tags. Afro-Eurasian (talk) 06:24, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Yes, you think that you are familiar with WP:weasel, but you are not. That is why I suggest you should read it. If thereafter you read more carefully the template messages in the article, you will find that there are several weasel words ("it is generally proposed...", "the Dacians are generally considered...") in the text. Moreover, please also study my edits more carefully: it was me who modified some sentence in order to be fully in line with the cited work (e. g. Oltean's book) and to avoid copyvio. Would you refer an edit by you which was based on a reliable source? I may be wrong, but as far as I can remember you have so far only deleted template messages. Borsoka (talk) 07:11, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
Of course, I provided a source for The name Daci, or "Dacians" is a collective ethnonym.[31] under the Etymology section. Aside from removing the templates (which I apologize), I have done rewording and plan on providing more sources soon. Afro-Eurasian (talk) 15:10, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

I apologize if I came across as rude or unpleasant, I just want to make sure that articles related to Dacia stay clean and bias-free. I come across many users who are anti-Romanian and anti-Dacian and get away with pushing POV nonsense and hate into some articles, such as this one. Again, I apologize, and I want to improve these articles, not mess them up. Afro-Eurasian (talk) 15:45, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

No problem. Good work. Borsoka (talk) 15:51, 11 January 2014 (UTC)

Blökumenn

Hi, Borsoka. I am unable to read this source. Would you mind telling me how I can go about reading page 261? Afro-Eurasian (talk) 19:15, 13 January 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I have no idea. Borsoka (talk) 19:18, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
Alright, I understand. However, I would like to mention that the modern Icelandic word for "Africa" is "Afríka", so I don't understand how "Blokumannaland" could even be an option. I don't find any mentions of Africa when searching that term either. In fact, I found the opposite. I find many mentions of Wallachia, yet none of Africa. Here's one source I found that makes no mention of Africa, only Wallachia. Kind regards, Afro-Eurasian (talk) 19:28, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
I highly appreciate your original research. If you publish it in reliable source, you can use it when editing the article. Borsoka (talk) 03:26, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

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Regarding Latin Europe, Latin Peoples, etc.

What is your problem? All you have been doing is remove content based on your prejudice, add unnecessary tags, and act like you are superior to me. And when things don't go your way, you add a bunch of nonsense into the article like you did here. Yes, I am rather new to Wikipedia. Yes, I may not know every policy (neither do you). And yes, sometimes I mess up (you do too). However, you are not, I repeat, not, helping any of these articles. Instead of seeking deletion of an article or removal of content, try helping by finding sources to improve the article. The level of anti-Latin, anti-Romanian, and anti-Dacian prejudice you have is incredible. You are making it hard for me to actually improve Wikipedia when all you do is constantly revert, delete, etc. I can't even get some time to find proper sources because you keep deleting! Also, you speak to me like I am mentally challenged... I am a native speaker of English, while you are not. So please, don't think that I am speaking negatively to you. I just want peace and for these articles to be improved. Afro-Eurasian (talk) 23:37, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

That is why I suggested you should read WP:NOR. Finding reliable sources in order to substantiate claims made by other editors is not my task. If you want to improve articles, do not remove template messages. Borsoka (talk) 23:42, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Madalibi, I highly appreciate your hard work. Have a nice day. Borsoka (talk) 14:37, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
The article had been a GA candidate for too long! I'm glad I could help! Madalibi (talk) 15:10, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

February 2014

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Dear CambridgeBayWeather, I do not understand your above message. I was not involved in edit war: (1) I did not only revert other editor's edit, but took into account their messages on the Talk page and modified the article, in accordance to them; (2) I initiated the protection of the page. Would you please clarify which of my actions qualify as edit warring. Borsoka (talk) 04:47, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
From my perspective you were in an edit war. See here and here f0r example. I also warned the other editor. I have replied on my talk page to your request. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 15:56, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
Dear CambridgeBayWeather, thank for your answer. Although I do not fully agree with you, I am a law-abiding citizen. :) Borsoka (talk) 17:10, 10 February 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Samuel Aba, King of Hungary?

Borsoka, would you mind if I nominated Samuel Aba, King of Hungary for DYK? — Maile (talk) 12:44, 13 February 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for the nomination. Borsoka (talk) 18:31, 13 February 2014 (UTC)


WP:Naming conventions (Hungary)

Hi, thanks for your edits. I wonder, Category:Wikipedia naming conventions has nothing specific for Hungary. Maybe because it isn't needed. But do you know if there is something somewhere in any other MOS guideline? In ictu oculi (talk) 08:44, 14 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not know. Borsoka (talk) 18:46, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
Maybe it would be an easy thing to make one. Just some simple guidelines.
Could you help out on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Iaaasi#14_February_2014 please. I can see it's the same sock, but I'm not familiar with the content issues. In ictu oculi (talk)
I do not remember Iaaasi. User:Norden1990 may assist you. Borsoka (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

A Barnstar For You!

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I believe you deserve this for your outstanding contribution to Hungarian-related articles, and for all your Good Articles! Cheers, Original European (talk) 03:50, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Dear Afro-Eurasian, thank you for the above barnstar. Borsoka (talk) 03:53, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Dear Afro-Eurasian, please do not edit my messages. Borsoka (talk) 04:11, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

My name

Hi, Borsoka. I would appreciate if you would please call me by my name Original European. If you'd like, you could call me by my real name, which is Alex. Original European (talk) 04:19, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

Dear Afro-Eurasian, I prefer using your original name when communicating with you. Borsoka (talk) 04:22, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I do not understand what you mean. I am trying to be friendly as a new Wikipedian. I assume you are mistaking me for another editor since you are calling me by the wrong name, and I am asking you politely to stop. Original European (talk) 04:25, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Please read WP:Sockpuppetry. Sockpuppetry is a serious issue in our community. Borsoka (talk) 04:30, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, I have read WP:SOCK. That is why I have multiple accounts that I do not edit on. They just redirect to my userpage. All in accordance with policy. I am a busy person and I am not interested in editing Indo-European articles, which is why my main focus is Basque-related articles, since I am Basque-American. You make fine work in Hungarian articles, which is why I gave you a BoNM. Again, you are mistaking me for another editor, and I am not interested in Indo-European topics. I'll be on my way. Cheers, Original European (talk) 04:36, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Dear Afro-Eurasian, I think the best solution if you use your original name. Borsoka (talk) 04:40, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Sigh. Well, aside from you asserting that I am someone whom I am not, it was nice meeting you. Keep up the good work. Cheers, Original European (talk) 04:45, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I still suggest that you should only use your original user name (Afro-Eurasian) in the future in order to avoid banning from WP. Borsoka (talk) 06:13, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
Please stop. At this point you are harassing me. I am not "Afro-Eurasian". Please read WP:BAIT. Original European (talk) 23:03, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
I draw your attention to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Afro-Eurasian. Borsoka (talk) 02:53, 19 February 2014 (UTC)

Translation request

I saw that you're native Hungarian speaker. Could you translate that? Please answer on my Polish Wikipedia talk page. Regards, Żyrafał (talk) 18:52, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

I am really sorry, I cannot translate it, because it is highly technical about car racing, motor sports, etc, etc. I guess, User:Norden1990 or User:Fakirbakir can assist you. Borsoka (talk) 19:01, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
OK, I ask them. Thanks. Żyrafał (talk) 19:43, 18 February 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Samuel Aba, King of Hungary

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Latin peoples deletion

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You just don't get it, do you?

I am Paleolithic Man (a.k.a. Original European). Please, take note, write it on a piece of paper, type it on a note program, do something. I just don't understand what is wrong with you confusing me for another editor. Every time you call me by an another editors name, you harass me. Stop it. I will get an administrator's help if you do not stop. Original European (talk) 12:21, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Draga, you are the little sockpuppet of Afro-Eurasian and you know it. I also know that for the time being you cannot use your original user name, because of this investigation: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Afro-Eurasian. Borsoka (talk) 12:27, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I do not know what "draga" means. I am a completely different being from Afro-Eurasian. We are different people. Please understand and accept that. I am a new contributor to Wikipedia and I focus mainly on Basque-related topics, along with mountains, anthropology, etc. I do not need to explain myself to you, but I do it in hopes that you will finally realize it. Original European (talk) 12:33, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
"And Racism in Romania [2], and in creating a page named Gypsies in Romania instead of the more neutral Romani people in Romania. Borsoka (talk) 12:37, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Yes, and if you'd check my other contributions you would notice that I also edited on other articles regarding racism. Also, does it matter if I create a page that redirects to a main page? No, it does not. I was simply redirecting a common name to the main article. Romani people in Romania already exists if you would pay more attention. Are you assuming that I am Romanian based on that edit? Haha, I am Basque - Euskaldun and proud. Not Romanian, not Moldovan, not Ukrainian, not Bulgarian, etc. Original European (talk) 12:46, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Draga Afro-Eurasian, I know what you are. Borsoka (talk) 12:54, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Again, I don't know what "draga" means and I am not Afro-Eurasian. You remind me of a drunken old man the constantly repeats himself, haha.
Great! You finally know who I am! I am Alex, you know, the Basque guy? Yes, that's me! Now if you don't mind I have to work on a little article then go to school. Cheers, Original European (talk) 13:00, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Draga, but I always know what I want and I always say what I want. I know that this approach is surprising for you. Borsoka (talk) 13:31, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
I don't know what you're talking about. Could you explain what "draga" means? I have to go to school and I will reply later. Cheers, Original European (talk) 13:35, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Draga, interestingly some hours ago you could speak Romanian [3]. Borsoka (talk) 13:47, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
"Draga", apparently means "Dear" (Google Translate). Yes, I am able to understand almost every Romance language at an intermediate level. I never stated that I could "speak" Romanian. Also, I removed the babel list because I could not find a proper position for it, as it took too much space and made my userpage long. How is that any of your concern? Original European (talk) 01:17, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Draga Afro-Eurasian, I know that you are a peculiar person. You like creating a number of user names for yourself, you like making a proposal which contradicts to your own views, and you cannot understand a basic Romanian word (although you state that you can understand almost every Romance language at an intermediate level). Borsoka (talk) 06:26, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I am not Afro-Eurasian. I am not "peculiar". Please do not insult me (see WP:PA). All of the usernames I registered are listed on my userpage, all in accordance to policy. I was asked to state my opinion, which I happily did. Does that violate any policy? No, it does not. You seem to be unfamiliar with Wikipedia's policies. There are multiple ways of saying "dear" (also depending on what way you intend on saying it). "Draga" is not a "basic word", at least not for a youth like me. Original European (talk) 07:46, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Draga, who did ask you to make the proposal which contradicts to your own views? Borsoka (talk) 07:51, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Why do you keep saying "Draga"/"Dear"? It's a bit excessive. Who asked me for my opinion? The details are at the investigation. Did you not take the time to read it? I've got to go, I will reply tomorrow. Original European (talk) 08:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Draga Afro-Eurasian, you are again surprising me. Why cannot you answer a simple question? Who did ask you to propose something which contradicts to your own views on the subject? Borsoka (talk) 08:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Draga Afro-Eurasian, I hope you will learn that sockpuppetry is a serious issue. I told you that you should have only use your original username. See you next time. Borsoka (talk) 19:00, 1 March 2014 (UTC)

That script for HarvErrors :-)

Hi Borsoka! I just saw that your article on Andrew I is under review, and that the eight "Harvard Errors" I mentioned are still there. This means you still haven't installed the amazing script I told you about! :-) You are too good an editor not to have that script installed! In addition to being incredibly useful, the script is incredibly simple to install: (1) Click here. (2) Click "Edit". (3) Add "importScript('User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js');" (without the quotation marks) to the content field. (4) Click "Save page". That's it! Once again, it took me more time to write these instructions than it will take you to install the script. Please install it and you will thank me for it! All the best, Madalibi (talk) 15:59, 28 February 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I could not install it. You do not believe I cannot use softwares. Borsoka (talk) 16:57, 28 February 2014 (UTC)
Hi again, Borsoka! Please give it one last try. Just copy this green text – importScript('User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js'); – (including the ";" at the end) and paste it into the page linked to above, then press save. You don't have to use any software. No programming, no software. All you have to do is cut and paste. I know I'm pestering you, but be confident in yourself and please try one more time, if only just to "give me face", as the Chinese say. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 08:11, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I asked one of our co-editors to help me to understand. He/she could not assist me either. Based on my personal experiences of several decades, if I cannot understand something in 5 minutes, I do not want to understand it any more. Extremly sorry, and thank for your proposal. Borsoka (talk) 17:41, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
I managed to see your page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Borsoka/common.js), but nobody can edit it for you. Actually you did everything right! You're only missing '); at the end of the line. If you add in those three characters, you will have succeeded! One very last try? Good luck with everything in your life! Madalibi (talk) 03:36, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
I did it, but nothing happened. Sorry, this was my last effort. Borsoka (talk) 05:21, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Oh, I'd missed one mistake! All that is missing now is a ' (an apostrophe) left of "User". The whole thing should read importScript('User:Ucucha/HarvErrors.js');. This will be my last message too, I promise. I just hope you can make it work! Madalibi (talk) 06:36, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
Sorry, I gave it up. Borsoka (talk) 06:41, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Borsoka! As I was browsing through the GA nominations, I noticed that two more of your articles are under review. It's impressive how you keep improving Wikipedia coverage of Hungarian monarchs. You must be the only WP editor who can do that, so you're all the more precious for the encyclopedia! I'm posting this message here because I notice there are 11 HarvErrors in Peter, King of Hungary. I encourage you to add that missing     '     left of the word "User" in the above script so that you can see them yourself. Of course, please do this at your own pace and when you're in the mood for it. I wish you all the best with your editing! Madalibi (talk) 01:28, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank for your message and for your understanding. Borsoka (talk) 06:02, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
Thanks. It works now. I am really grateful. Have a nice day! Borsoka (talk) 16:29, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
I'm so glad it finally worked! Have a great day too! Madalibi (talk) 00:13, 19 March 2014 (UTC)

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Talk:Andrew I of Hungary/GA1

Sorry this took so long. One last thing. Adam Cuerden (talk) 03:27, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the work tonight. It's promoted now. Adam Cuerden (talk) 04:56, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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Dear Adam, I highly appreciate your review. Thank you for your assistance. Borsoka (talk) 05:04, 10 March 2014 (UTC)
No worries! It's an interesting article, and quite a good read. I hope you take it to FA. Adam Cuerden (talk) 05:15, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

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Harv error

Szia Borsoka!

Nem tudom mi tortent, es hogyan, de nekem most mukodik ez a "harvesting error" dolog amirol user:Madabili beszel. En is latom pirossal kiemelve Orseolo Peter lapjan, hogy a "Kristo&Makk 1994" forrasmegjelolesek nem mutatnak sehova, tovabba a Bartl, Seges forrassal is baj van (de meg nem jottem ra mi). Fakirbakir (talk) 10:46, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Nem lehet tudni, hogy a Kristo es Makk fele 1994-es "Korai magyar történeti lexikon" a forras(nincs is a secondary sources listaban) vagy az 1996-os "Az Árpád-ház uralkodói" konyv. Fakirbakir (talk) 10:55, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Köszönöm! Javítottam. Borsoka (talk) 14:37, 18 March 2014 (UTC)

Géza, Grand Prince of the Hungarians

Dear Baffle gab1978, thank for your copy edit. Borsoka (talk) 04:34, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Géza I of Hungary

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Hi, I have nominated this and Béla I of Hungary for Did you know, which will hopefully result in the articles appearing on the main page. The links are Template:Did you know nominations/Peter, King of Hungary and Template:Did you know nominations/Béla I of Hungary. May I congratulate you on the great work, and thank you for enlightening me as to the fascinating choice Béla faced. Thanks, Matty.007 12:19, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
Thank for the nomination and for your good wishes. Borsoka (talk) 12:30, 29 March 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Béla I of Hungary

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Great job, congrats on the GA!♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:06, 31 March 2014 (UTC)

This got 12,465 views, which (if you're not familiar with DYK) is lots. (Also, for DYK Stats you get to count today's views, which will probably hike it up further. Thanks, Matty.007 10:31, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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Hi, I have nominated this for DYK, at Template:Did you know nominations/Solomon, King of Hungary. Is there any more info on him being cursed by his mother? Thanks, Matty.007 11:12, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your nomination. No, my sources do not tell the whole story. It is obviously connected to his conflict with her after his defeat by Géza I.Borsoka (talk) 14:10, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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Thank you for your kind words. Working with you was my pleasure. Have a nice day. Borsoka (talk) 03:56, 1 April 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Peter, King of Hungary

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Any relation to Venetian blinds? Thanks, Matty.007 18:40, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
I have no information of any relationship. Borsoka (talk) 02:15, 4 April 2014 (UTC)

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Borsoka, thank you again for the opportunity to review another of your extraordinary articles! As always, it's been a pleasure working with you throughout this process! -- Caponer (talk) 11:58, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
Caponer, it was my pleasure. I hope I will have a chance to work with you in the near future. Borsoka (talk) 13:17, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

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Zegernyei

Hi Borsoka, csak szeretnek idezni Zegernyeitol (nyest.hu) ajanlom figyelmedbe. [4] "Az új genetikai vizsgálatok érdekes irányokba vihetik a finnugor őstörténet kutatását is. Erre vonatkozóan figyelemre méltók a madjarok vizsgálatában részt vett kutatók publikációi (lásd a Budapesti Orvosszakértői Intézet honlapján). Pamzsav Horolma és Németh Endre januárban elhangzott előadása megfelelő történeti szituációba helyezi a genetikai folyamatokat. Nyelvészeknek azonban nem biztos, hogy tetszene, mivel a Pusztay János-féle őshaza-koncepciót támogatja. " Ergo, nem biztos, hogy teljesen a "finnugor eredet" ellen beszel Horolma kutatasa, Inkabb ez a nagy "ellentet" Rasko megallapitasaival szemben arra mutat, hogy a deli finnugor nepek etnogenezise bizony tartogathat meglepeteseket. Fakirbakir (talk) 18:57, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

Én csak arra céloztam, hogy meglehetősen gyenge lábakon áll az egész elmélet (nem ők származnak tőlünk, hanem mi tőlük, amit az bizonyít, hogy ők mások, mint a közép-ázsiaiak). :) Borsoka (talk) 02:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Re: Béla IV of Hungary - succession box

Valóban, ez egy felmerülő probléma, bár megjegyezném, hogy ebből az érvből kiindulva akkor az összes német herceg, őrgróf, palotagróf stb. infoboxját változtatni kellene, hiszen ők a német-római császár allatvalói voltak. (V.) Istvánnak meg legalább volt olyan erős hatalma Erdélyben, mint mondjuk a bajor hercegnek. De ha mindenképp el kell különíteni a címeket, akkor én az Elizabeth the Cuman cikkben követett mintát tudom ajánlani. --Norden1990 (talk) 10:15, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Gondolkodom. Nem tetszik a HRE-re történő utalás: 1221 után a német fejedelmek elméletileg is függetlenek voltak és a császár egy életfogytiglan választott tisztségviselő lett. De még gondolkodom. :) Borsoka (talk) 15:37, 10 April 2014 (UTC)


Madi - jar people

Bíró (who is president of pseudo scientific Hungarian Turan society,and Jobbik Supporter) and originally Central Asian Horolma is not realiable source. Read the critics here: (from page 3) http://ahea.net/admin/?path=admin/modules/journals/4/journalarticles/25/journalarticleattachments&request=modules/journals/journalarticleattachments&download=83&ajax=1

Their real name is madi-jar and not madjar people! It means friends of Mohamed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.46.94.66 (talk) 11:21, 12 April 2014 (UTC)


A madi-jar (Mohamed barátai) sztori Horolma és Bíró közös projektje, a turanizmus szolgálatában áll. Lásd Bírót aki kitalálta az expedíciót és mintákat gyűjtött.

Gondolom ezt láttad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=yZBF4no9EpA#t=169

Te talán elfogadod a turanizmust mint tudományos elméletet? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.46.94.66 (talk) 16:56, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Egyáltalán nem fogadom el, mert marhaság. Ugyanakkor az, hogy egy elmélet X, Y vagy Z szolgálatában áll, nem érv. Borsoka (talk) 01:40, 13 April 2014 (UTC)


Turanizmus = fantasy. Majd ha egy rendes akadémikus (MTA vagy más külföldi tudományos társaság rendes tagja vagy legalább levelező tag) professzortól hallod akkor komolyan veheted. MTA szimpla kis doktora lehetsz egy sima PHD vizsgával. Miért kellene komolyan venni? És mint bizonyítottam. Ez nem más mint Bíró András Zsolt saját ötlete expedíciója és mintái alapján született Horolma iromány, ami egyetlen Y haplocsoport variánsra épít. (mint mondtam a magyar populációban minimum 11 Y haplocsoport jelen van van). http://www.eupedia.com/europe/european_y-dna_haplogroups.shtml Ráadásul legtöbb szláv népben magasabb arányban van jelen. TELJES LOGIKAI BUKFENC, amely politikai motivációk alapján született. Lásd a szoros kapcsolatot az ötlet kiagyalója Bíró és Horolma között.

Már azt propagálta a Bíró, hogy megvannak a Julianus barát által felfedezett keleti magyarok :)))) Csak most éppen madi-jarok ( mohamed barátai)

Egyebkent erdemes megnezni kinek a velemenyet veszik szamba az MTA Ostorteneti Temacsoportjanal egy a magyarsag genetikajaval foglalkozo tudomanyos konferencian [5](Csosz, Egyed, Csanyi, Pamzsav---- epp tegnap volt, remelem lesz belole valami osszefoglalo). Fakirbakir (talk) 21:03, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
Ma lesz. Nincs is kiemelve a nem közép-ázsiai jellegű madjarok kicsi csoportja, akiknek genetikai hasonlósága a magyarok közép-ázsiai eredetét bizonyítja. :) :) :) Borsoka (talk) 04:48, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
Tenyleg ma lesz :), elneztem a datumot. Fakirbakir (talk) 08:13, 25 April 2014 (UTC)

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Hungarian Turanism article

User Maghasito try to spread pseudo-history and fringe theories (which is not supported by academic scholars)in the article which closely related to fascist ideology. That's why I said that he must edit the metapedia instead of wikipedia. He deleted sources references and sentences. He ignored all wiki rules and started an edit war.--Diverser (talk) 14:25, 2 May 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I am not an expert on this field. Borsoka (talk) 04:21, 5 May 2014 (UTC)

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Caponer, thank you for your kind words, for your hard work and for the above barnstar. Borsoka (talk) 01:09, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

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Béla II of Hungary


Péter

Szia. Péterhez beírtam Juditot, amit kivettél. Nem teljesen értem. Gézának három lánya volt, ha abban a dobozban two daughters van, akkor az négy lenne (két névtelen meg még kettő). Amúgy érdemes lenne talán megemlíteni, hogy a másik kettőnek többen az Ilona és Sarolta nevet tételezik fel. Judit nevesítését pedig fontosnak tartanám, mert mégiscsak királynő Péter nagynénjei között, és mint ilyen, a legfontosabb rokon, de legalábbis az egyetlen névről ismert Géza-leány. (Lásd: hu:Az Árpád-ház családfája) Laszlovszky András (talk) 05:01, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Laszlovszky András, Géza esetében négy lányt tételeznek fel, de egyiknek sem ismert a neve. (Nézd meg a családfát Kristó Gyula és Makk Ferenc Az Árpád-ház uralkodói című könyvében.) Ha Juditot tényleg Juditnak hívták, és tényleg Géza lánya volt, akkor sem volt királyné, hiszen a férjét jó néhány évtizeddel azután koronázták királlyá, hogy Juditot hazazavarta. (Olvasd el Szegfő László "Szent István családja" című tanulmányát Az államalapító című könyvben.) Borsoka (talk) 05:41, 15 May 2014 (UTC)

Ez a kérdés mindenképp zavaros. Azt, hogy Gézának tulajdonképpen hány lánya volt, csak abból következtetik ki, hogy Európa uralkodóházaiban az ezredforduló előtt hány magyar hercegnő jelenik meg. Boleszláv politikai okokból küldte haza feleségét 988-ban. Egyes feltevések szerint ugyanez a lány lett Gábor Radomir bolgár cár felesége is, akit terhesen zavart el a férje (ezért írtam királynőt, bár királynét akartam). A türingiai Sizzónak is Géza lánya volt a felesége, valamint Orseolo Ottónak és Aba Sámuelnek is. Ismeretlen nevűek ugyan, de a Judit és az Ilona megalapozott feltevések, és ha jól számolom, ez már öt, kivéve ha Boleszláv és Gábor felesége valóban ugyanaz volt. Sőt Vajay Szabolcs még Géza második feleségétől, Adelheidtől is feltételez egy lányt, mégpedig Colesticát, a somlóvásárhelyi apácakolostor fejedelemasszonyát. Laszlovszky András (talk) 12:34, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Lehetséges. Továbbra sem értem azonban, hogy a Péter királyunk életét bemutató cikkben miért kellene bármilyen módon megemlíteni a hozzá (legalábbis a források szerint) semmilyen módon nem kapcsolódó hölgyeket. Borsoka (talk) 19:07, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Azon kívül, hogy a nagynénjei és azon kívül, hogy ez egy családfa, ami a rokoni kapcsolatokat mutatja be, tényleg semmi. Szerintem ha már családfát rajzolunk egy ilyen bizonytalan rokonságról, akkor a hozzájuk kapcsolódó elméletek és lehetséges alternatívák vázolása is fontos. De nem kell ezzel egyetérteni, a magam részéről nem zavarlak tovább ezzel. Laszlovszky András (talk) 08:30, 18 May 2014 (UTC)

Banate of Macso

Could this be renamed in Banate of Mačva, or Mačva banate or Banate of Macho? I know that Banatus Machoviensis was a part of Hungarian kingdom for a long time, but inhabitants of the banatus were Greeks and Slavs. John Van Antwerp Fine, Jr. uses the term Mačva banate to refer to what is called in Latin Banatus Machoviensis or Banatus de Macho.--Владимир Нимчевић (talk) 21:37, 24 May 2014 (UTC)

I draw you attention to Wikipedia:Moving a page. Borsoka (talk) 03:17, 25 May 2014 (UTC)

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I addressed the image issue, there's just a problem with [which?] tags.--¿3family6 contribs 14:45, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
3family6, I am deeply grateful to you for your assistance. I need some day to find a reliable source. Borsoka (talk) 03:03, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
That is fine. I'm in no hurry.--¿3family6 contribs 17:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

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Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cristiana of Capua and Adelaide of Riedenburg

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Great job on the good articles

Great job on the good articles. It was very fun to review them, and I learned a lot about medieval Hungarian history (medieval history was my focus in college, and hopefully will continue to be when I go to grad school).

Just to let you know, I'm nominating all of the articles to go on Did you know...?

Final comment: With the Principality of Nitra, the article says that "after Pribina's expulsion, Nitra became one of the most important centers within Great Moravia." Center of what? An editor on the DYK nomination page found that sentence rather vague.--¿3family6 contribs 12:34, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

3family6, thank you for your reviews. I hope we will cooperate to improve other articles as well in the future. I have just modified the text. Please checque it. Borsoka (talk) 12:59, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
Thank you, it is much more clear now. I hope that we can cooperate in the future, too.--¿3family6 contribs 13:07, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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Korona

Itt egy nagyon jo osszegzes a koronarol, Etele Kisstol (Nemzeti Muzeum)[6] (60 -76 oldalak). O is elkepzelhetonek tartja az Andrassal valo rokonitast.Fakirbakir (talk) 14:38, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Egy remek szócikk kerekedhetne ebből az anyagból. Borsoka (talk) 15:02, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

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DYK

Hi, congratulations on the recent GA Béla II of Hungary. I have nominated it for DYK here, but I would appreciate you checking over the hook. Thanks, Matty.007 17:22, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your nomination. The hook is fine for me. Borsoka (talk) 02:59, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
For me, it is OK. Borsoka (talk) 03:07, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

I am confused

User:Borsoka, why did you add Category:Hungarian monarchs into Category:Roman Catholic monarchs, if not all Hungarian monarchs were Catholics? What do you think about creating a new category named Category:Kings of Hungary, that would be a subcat. of Category:Roman Catholic monarchs, and in the same time a subcat of Category:Hungarian monarchs? PersecutedUser (talk) 16:50, 24 June 2014 (UTC)

I created Category:Kings of Hungary and Category:Queens regnant of Hungary. which are subcategoies of Category:Hungarian monarchs. Given that these 2 categories are subcategories of Category:Roman Catholic monarchs, I removed this category per WP:SUBCAT - "A page or category should rarely be placed in both a category and a subcategory or parent category (supercategory) of that category (unless the child category is non-diffusing).". I hope you agree with these changes, cause it was some work to do :) PersecutedUser (talk) 22:51, 24 June 2014 (UTC)


A II Körmendi csata melyet a HAbsburgok bizony elvesztettek

Előszeretettel idézel olyan szerzőktől akiknek sajnos sosem jött össze hogy az MTA rendes tagjai legyenek, mert próbálkozásaik ellenére nem tartották őket alkalmasnak erre (PL: Engel Pál hithű MSZMP párttag 1989-ig, medievalista aki még a 60-as években a magyar román stílusban és hazai gótikus templomokban akarta keresni -politikai megfontolásból- a "domináns" orosz építészeti hatásokat. Nevetséges.). Egyetlen nagy érdeme hogy jól lefordították egy könyvét angolra, ami stilisztikailag jobb lett mint az ango verzió, ám nem sokkal lépi túl egy elit gimi történblemoktatásának szintjét) Olvass a II.körmendi csatáról és revidiáld álláspontodat a Matthias Corvinus cikkben. http://vaol.hu/hetvege/holloszarnyak-a-raba-folott-1268019--78.92.238.49 (talk) 08:02, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Tudod, a WP egy olyan furcsa közösség, ahol - közmegegyezéssel elfogadott szabályokat tiszteletben tartva - mindenki maga szerkeszt, nem másokat kér meg erre. Olvasd el figyelmesen, mit jelent az hogy "reliable source", és ilyen források felhasználásával bármikor magad is szerkesztheted a szócikkeket. Ha úgy érzed, támogatásra van szükséged, mivel önállóan nem vagy képes szerkeszteni, vannak megfelelő WP projektek, amelyek keretében elhivatott szerkesztők segítségét kérheted. Sajnos, én nem tartozom közéjük. Borsoka (talk) 21:55, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
Engel '95-től MTA rendes tag volt, és soha nem lépett be az MSZMP-be. --62.165.247.82 (talk) 22:41, 25 June 2014 (UTC)

Nagyon ömlesztett a Corvinus ciikk

A Corvinus cikk túl ömlesztett és tagolatlan. Külön kellene választani az economic , legislative (jogtörténet téme) activity stb.. részt mint más nagy királyok esetében. Tehát tematizáltabb cikk kellene. Az eddigi részekből átemelni és végre a megfelelő helyre tenni a dolgokat.--Satandome (talk) 08:28, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

Valószínűleg igaz, de még "under construction". Gyűjteni kellene az anyagot, és megbízható forrásokat használni. Borsoka (talk) 08:32, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
Mellesleg, kik azok a nagy királyok, akikre gondolsz. Borsoka (talk) 08:34, 29 June 2014 (UTC)

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DYK for Béla II of Hungary

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Friendly request

Please take a look at Land of Hațeg and save it of speedy deletion if you consider that it should stay Buf12345 (talk) 17:10, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

I have just wanted to save it. Sorry, I was late. By the way, you should initiate a proper procedure if you want to join again to us. Borsoka (talk) 17:47, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for your support. I saved the text of the article at User talk:Buf12345, however I will not hurry to post it. There are still improvements to be done to the draft (the article was not in the best shape anyway when it was deleted).
Regarding the procedure, I am not prepared to wait for 6+ months unless I am sure that I will be unbanned then. I think the chances for a decline are quite big even after a period of non-socking Buf12345 (talk) 22:39, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Blaise Magyar

Helo, az angol wikin fajoan nagy hiany, hogy nincs meg Magyar Balazsrol cikk, esetleg ha egy csonkot letrehoznal, nagyszeru lenne.,. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.236.16.49 (talk) 19:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

Done. Már csak bővíteni, szépíteni kellene, de erre nekem most nem lesz időm. :)
Koszi. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.236.16.49 (talk) 09:31, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

About Sigismund's statue built by King Matthias

The current version of John Hunyadi article contains the following text: According to this anecdote, John was actually not Voyk's child, but King Sigismund's illegitimate son.The story became especially popular during the reign of John Hunyadi's son, Matthias Corvinus who erected a statue for King Sigismund in Buda. I am wondering how relevant that statue is. Can that really be considered an argument? After all raising statues is a very common habit and I think it is a forced interpretation to see that as a way of admitting that Sigismund was the king's grandfather. Buf12345 (talk) 22:29, 8 July 2014 (UTC)

However, Matthias's purpose was to make everybody believe that he was descended from the Emperor when the sculpture was made. Borsoka (talk) 02:08, 9 July 2014 (UTC)


Matthias conquered Austria and Bohemia

What is your problem with the conquest word regarding Matthias' conquest of parts of Bohemia and Austria?

See the meaning of conquest in the Thesaurus dictionary (Merriam Webster, it's an E. Britannica Company) http://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/conquer

The essence of this "conquest" phrase is the usage of military forces. --Mátyás a hódító (talk) 12:48, 9 July 2014 (UTC)

I have no problem. Please read the lead more carefully. Borsoka (talk) 16:05, 9 July 2014 (UTC)


Artist are not Scholars!

There is no duplication in the patronage section of Matthias Corvinus article. You confused the terms of artist and scolars. And there are no duplications. Why don't you read my modifications before you started to revert them? Painters sculptors poets etc.. are not scholars! Why do you want to hide and delete the artists from the article?--Whitango (talk) 08:57, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

(1) I do not want to hide anything. (2) Please use the search function and you will realise the duplications. (3) Read WP:reliable source and use reliable sources when editing. Borsoka (talk) 09:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Duplications? :)) I do not want to state that you simply lied, therefore I say: I think your eyes have serious problems.--Whitango (talk) 09:16, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Again: try to use the search function of your computer, and also try to use relaible sources. Borsoka (talk) 09:33, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


Where are the following artists mentioned in your version? Filippino Lippi, Andrea del Verrocchio, Benedetto da Maiano Andrea Mantegna ??? Why do not want to represent artists in the article? What's your purpose? (merjünk kicsik lenni?)--Whitango (talk) 09:44, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

I see you have just learnt how to use the search function. If my understanding is correct you now only want to add these three names (not all the others). I will add them based on reliable sources. Borsoka (talk) 09:56, 15 July 2014 (UTC)


These artists have own reliable sources, so you can use their references. Do not forget to mention the visit of Leonardo and his opinion about Matthias, because Leonardo was the artist symbol of the renaissance era.--Whitango (talk) 10:07, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Habsburgs lost the war against Matthias in 1461

This is a primary school curriculum in Hungary, but is is also part of the history education of grammar schools too (there is mentioned even in my history text books from grammar school) However you depicted falsely some facts, and you mention selective weird historic events, which are negligible in that war. However you try to hush up relevant facts: The Habsburgs lost that war. It is a very basic knowledge, However you have never heard about it. Just read one of the webpage of Hungarian Ministry of Human Resources (which includes State Secretariat for Education)

http://erettsegizz.com/tortenelem/hunyadi-matyas-matyas-kiraly-erettsegi-tetel/ "III. Frigyest ellenkirállyá választották, de Mátyás győzött felettük, majd kibékült velük és tisztségeket adott nekik, ezzel elnyerve támogatásukat. Forrás: történelem érettségi tételek | Érettségi"--Whitango (talk) 09:17, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

??????? Would you please list the facts falsely depicted and would you also mention the "selective weird historic events"? Borsoka (talk) 09:36, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

You selected only the first battle of Körmend (which did not proved a decisive battle, if you consider the fact that Friedrich lost the war.)

Ismered azt a jogi fogalmat hogy tények hamis színben való feltüntetése?

Szelektíven kiválasztasz egyes részeket, (amik céljaidnak megfelelnek), más releváns információkat eseményeket persze nem említed meg a háború mnetével kapcsolatban, és a végkifejletét sem összegzed. A magyar történelmet nem ismerő külföldi olvasót persze így könnyen meg lehet téveszteni: (ez egy tökéletes példa rá)

The rumors proved to be true, because at least 30 barons—including Ladislaus Garai, Nicholas Újlaki, and Ladislaus Kanizsai—met in Németújvár (now Güssing in Austria) and offered the throne to Emperor Frederick III on 17 February 1459.[30][33][61] Although the joint troops of the Emperor and the rebellious lords defeated a royal army at Körmend in March 27, Garai had by that time died and Újlaki soon entered into negotiations with Matthias' envoys.[61] Nevertheless, skirmishes along the western borderlands lasted for several months, preventing Matthias from providing military assistance to Stephen Tomašević against the Ottomans.[59] The latter took Smederevo on 29 June, completing the conquest of Serbia.[62][63]

Pope Pius II step up to mediate a peace treaty between the Emperor and Matthias.[33] George of Poděbrady likewise offered his assistance.[64] The representatives of the Emperor and Matthias signed a truce in Olomouc in April 1460.[30] The Pope soon offered financial support for an anti-Ottoman campaign.[59] However, John Jiskra returned from Poland, renewing the armed conflicts with the Czech mercenaries in early 1460.[59] Although Matthias seized a newly erected fort from the Czechs, but he could not force them to obey.[59] The costs of his five-month-long campaign in Upper Hungary were covered by an extraordinary tax.[65]

Jiskra swore an oath of loyalty to Emperor Frederick on 10 March 1461.[59] In response, Matthias entered into an alliance with the Emepror's rebellious brother, Albert VI, Archduke of Austria.[66] George of Poděbrady sided with the Emperor, although the marriage of his daughter, who became known as Catherine in Hungary, to Matthias was celebrated on 1 May 1461.[56][67] Relations between Matthias and his father-in-law even deteriorated due to the presence of the Czech mercenaries in Upper Hungary.[68] Matthias launched a new campaign against them after the Diet authorized him to collect an extraordinary tax in the summer.[69] However, he did not defeat Jiskra who even captured Késmárk (Kežmarok, Slovakia).[43]

The envoys of Matthias and Emperor Frederick agreed upon the terms of a peace treaty on 3 April 1462.[30] According to the agreement, the Emperor was to return the Holy Crown of Hungary for 80,000 golden florins, but his right to use the title of King of Hungary along with Matthias was confirmed.[30][64] In accordance with the treaty, the Emperor adopted Matthias, which granted him the right to succeed his "son" if Matthias died without a legitimate heir.[64][70]--Whitango (talk) 10:03, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

???? What do you want??? Borsoka (talk) 10:22, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Matthias Corvinus

Remek cikk lett, gratulalok, akar jeloltetheted is kiemelt statuszra (FA), boven megfelel a kriteriumoknak. Ha esetleg a kozeljovoben lesz idod, kedved, miegymas, Blaise Magyar mintajara megirhatnad tobbek kozott Stephen Zápolya, Emeric Zápolya, Michael Ország, House of Zápolya, Galeotto Marzio es Barbara Edelpöck szocikkeket is, mert szvsz egy csonk meg mindig jobb, mintha nem lenne az adott alanyrol semmilyen cikk. :) Megegyszer gratulalok! --62.165.251.124 (talk) 13:14, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Köszönet. Dolgozom rajta... Borsoka (talk) 16:48, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

Protected your talkpage

Hello Borsoka, just so you know, I have semiprotected your talk page due to a long term sock in the 6 sections above still editing. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. -- DQ (ʞlɐʇ) 22:11, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

DeltaQuad, I have actually no problem with socks editing my Talk page. If it does not contradict to community rules, I would rather let my Talk page unprotected. Borsoka (talk) 04:27, 16 July 2014 (UTC)

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Profibb könyv a Hunyadi cikkhez

http://books.google.com/books?id=FpvqWWpUYSoC&printsec=frontcover&dq=The+Holy+Wars+of+King+Wladislas+and+Sultan+Murad:+The+Ottoman-Christian&hl=hu&sa=X&ei=mXvaU7HUCoT-ygOJ14LACQ&ved=0CB8Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20Holy%20Wars%20of%20King%20Wladislas%20and%20Sultan%20Murad%3A%20The%20Ottoman-Christian&f=false

Egy sokkal jobb könyv hunyadról mint hadvezérről, taktikáiról stb... mint a gagyi magyar könyvek amit eddig referenciaként haszhnáltál, mivel elismert hadtörténész írta.. Érdemes lenne gyorsan átolvasnod.

Mint már írtam neked, bárki szerkesztheti a wkipediát. Borsoka (talk) 17:54, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Bárki? Nekem nem úgy tűnik. Itt van végre egy profi könyv, nem olyan gagyi mint amiket eddig használtál (könyvtárosból lett "akadémikusok" mint Engel Pali, nyugaton ez vizsgák tudományos rangok sorozatának letétele nélkül lehetetlen lett volna, ilyen csak a szocialista népköztársaságunkban történhetett meg), és erre te mégis így reagálsz? --Kinrkdraws (talk) 18:09, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Olvasd már el, kiket idéz a szerző az általad ajánlott könyvekben! Érdekes módon Engel is előfordul. Borsoka (talk) 18:41, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
Bárki. Borsoka (talk) 18:10, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

Hidd el, ez nem így van.--Kinrkdraws (talk) 18:38, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

cikk a Magyar reneszánszról és fejlődéséről

Már a horvátoknak is van saját remeszánsz cikkük, csak a magyaroknak nincs. Kellene egy csonk ami kiidulópontnak jó lenne, majd idővel felfejlesztjük.--Kinrkdraws (talk) 17:36, 31 July 2014 (UTC)

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Szia Borsoka, Raktam ket PD-1923-at a Wikimedia commons-on a Szentharomsag es Istvan kiraly szobrokra. Idezem "public artwork installed before 1923 is considered to be public domain, and can be photographed freely." Tehat ezek szerintem rendben vannak. A Szentjobb kepet kicsereltem mert az elozo velemenyem szerint "bajos" volt. Az "upright parameter" fogalmam sincs mit jelent a peer review-nal. Szep Estet! Fakirbakir (talk) 18:08, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Viszont, ahogy elnezem vannak 1923 utan keszitett szobrok (Szt. Istvan, Szt Gellert) is az oldalon, nem egeszen ertem hogy akkor mi vonatkozik ezekre. [7] Fakirbakir (talk) 18:26, 7 August 2014 (UTC)

Fakirbakir, köszönet a segítségért. Borsoka (talk) 14:13, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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Hungarian revolution of 1848

Tudnál te is segíteni? Rendbe kellene már tenni a cikket végre. Köszi!--Bwatzuk (talk) 13:50, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

Bocsánat, de engem a 18. századtól kezdve egyre kevésbé érdekel a történelem, és nagyon kevés forrásom van 1848-hoz. Esetleg a WP:HUN, WP:AUT, WP:RO, WP:SRB és WP:SLOVAKIA keretében lehetne segítséget kérni. Borsoka (talk) 14:08, 25 August 2014 (UTC)

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Helló! Szeretnék pár 2013-as tanulmányt ajánlani magyar történészek (pl. Zsoldos, Klaniczay) tollából, akiknek munkáit talán fel tudod használni I. Károly, I. Lajos stb. cikkekben, ráadásul angol nyelvűek. Mindegyiket le tudod tölteni PDF formátumban. itt. --178.164.206.136 (talk) 11:17, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

Köszönöm! Nagyon jó. Borsoka (talk) 11:26, 27 August 2014 (UTC)

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I am sorry but I am not entirely satisfied with your answer regarding this image whether it is okay to use it in the article Álmos or not and you just deleted the image altogether. You dismissed the picture as a whole and instead of providing a reason you choose not to answer because you are "unable" to for whatever reason. For what it's worth you owe an explanation on what do you find unsuitable about using this image because the way you dealt with the picture I find very sloppy and troubling. ItsAlwaysLupus (talk) 23:16, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

I maintain my answer cited above. Borsoka (talk) 02:44, 3 September 2014 (UTC)

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The statement The earliest Romanian chronicles wrote of the migration of the Romanians' ancestors in the reign of one "King Vladislaus' inserted by them in the article Origin of the Romanians isn't apparently existing in the provided source, namely Vékony, Gábor (2000). Dacians, Romans, Romanians. The word Vladislaus isn't even present in the book. Eurocentral (talk) 08:56, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Yes, Vékony uses the word "László" (which is the Hungarian word for Vladislas). Borsoka (talk) 11:40, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

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Please attach a functional e-mail address to your account (at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences). I'd like to send you a private message and the current e-mail address seems disabled (I receive a failure notice when trying to contact it). Thanks in advance! 5.101.156.36 (talk) 21:47, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not want to start a private correspondence. Borsoka (talk) 02:26, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

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I am Iaaasi. Do you have the email address of User:Thehoboclown? He seems obssessed with me and I don't know why, he keeps reporting all my accounts. Osugiba (talk) 13:21, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

No, I do not have. As I have already suggested, you should stop sock puppetry and ask the community to have a new chance. Borsoka (talk) 13:27, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
When your fellows Norden1990 and Stubess9 will respect their bans/indef blocks I will stop too. As long as they are permitted to sock, why wouldn't I be allowed to do the same? Osugiba (talk) 13:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Can you at least do something to save the articles that I created (Lia Olguța Vasilescu, Georgi Ovcharov, Mărinică Dincă, List of mayors of Craiova) from deletion? Your Magyar fellow with mental problems insists to nomiante them for deletion. Osugiba (talk) 13:31, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
All articles mentioned above were created by User:Bagnume. So that means his user is also a sockpuppet of you.TrixAreForKidsSillyRabbit (talk) 14:16, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
(1) Neither Norden1990, nor Stubes9 are permitted to sock. (2) Yes, I liked Norden1990's edits, because he was an enthusiastic and excellent editor. Yes, he was a fellow of mine. In contrast with Stubes, whom I never regarded as such. (3) Sorry, I cannot "save" articles - I suggest you should seek assistance from the relevant wikiprojects. (4) Please stop stick negative labels to other editors. Borsoka (talk) 13:42, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
Why do you use past tense when talking about your comrade Norden1990? He is still editing here, he simply does not give a fuck on his indefinite block. At Wikipedia:Sockpuppet_investigations/Norden1990 you can see a list of sockpuppets.
It is hard to refrain form using labels when this guy is checking in your edit history the articles where you contributed to see if I made edits there too.Osugiba (talk) 14:13, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
What a surprise! Is WP an open community where everybody can cheque everybody's edit history? I am terrified. :) Borsoka (talk) 14:21, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
If checking is used to cooperate with that editor at the articles where he is active, there is no problem. But when this is done with the exclusive purpose of looking for someone's "sockpuppets", it is sick. Osugiba (talk) 14:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

The One Man Army of Eurocentral

He will not stop waging edit wars. He is doggedly determined to get POV across. This is not just about historical truths or ideologies. This is his ego at stake. He appears unable to separate ideas from people. He seems to have a persecution/martyr complex where any facts, ideas, hypotheses that contradict his personally held "truths" are seen as an attack on his very being. I'm afraid that he will only answer to disciplinary actions. TrixAreForKidsSillyRabbit (talk) 15:51, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

I tend to agree with you. I am just working on it. Borsoka (talk) 15:53, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
The power of a suckpuppet called TrixAreForKidsSillyRabbit is to make false accusations.

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FYI Borsoka used suckpuppet Thehoboclown

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Eurocentral, if you want to initiate a sock puppet investigation please read this page and act in accordance with it. You may not understand the concept of sock puppetry (this would not be the first occasion, you do not understand a concept). As I mentioned, it was you who was used as a tool by a banned editor, Iaaasi. Consequently, if any of us is a sockpuppet, it is you. Borsoka (talk) 05:53, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

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Lesser nobility (Kingdom of Hungary)

Szia Borsoka! Szerinted a "lesser nobles" oldala nem a Conditional noble temajahoz tartozik? Erdemes lenne kulon megtartani a "lesser nobility" oldalat? Kicsit zavaros a kep.... varjobbagysag, kiralyi szerviensek, koznemesseg, kisnemesseg, predalis nemesseg, armalis nemesseg... Fakirbakir (talk) 12:13, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

Egyértelműen nem. A kisnemesek/köznemesek "igazi nemesek" voltak, csak nem volt címük (báró, gróf, stb). Az armálisok olyan kisnemesek/köznemesek, akiknek még birtokuk sem volt. A várjobbágyok és a királyi serviensek igazából még az "igazi nemesség" kialakulása előtti kategória. 1267-től a királyi servienseket hívják egyébként nemesnek, míg a várjobbágyok egy része "igazi nemes" lett, más részük a "kondicionárius nemesek" (=conditinal noble) közé számított (például a "túrmezei nemesek"), míg legnagyobb részük sima jobbágy lett. A "kondicionárius nemesek" közé egy sor prvilegizált réteg tartozott, akikben az volt a közös, hogy nem szabadon bírták a birtokaikat, hanem szolgálat fejében: például a prediális nemesek (=egyházi nemesek) főleg olyan várjobbágyok leszármazottai, akik főpapi birtokokon éltek. Ugye, nem is olyan zavaros? :) :) :) Borsoka (talk) 12:23, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Koszonom. Igy mar mindjart mas. Erdemes megtartani a "lesser nobles" oldalat? Vagy ossze kellene "gyurni" a "Nobility in the Kingdom of Hungary"-val? Fakirbakir (talk) 12:37, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
Őszintén szólva, nem tudom. :) Borsoka (talk) 13:40, 22 October 2014 (UTC)

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EdJohnston, thank you for your message. Actually, I am really tired of communicating with an editor who obviously cannot make anything else than repeating his own biased ideas and labelling other editors. I made an attempt to write a neutral lead for the "Origin...." article. Your (and any other editors') comments would be highly appreciated. Borsoka (talk) 03:11, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
I can't act as an admin if I express a vote on the content. But your new proposal for the opening paragraph looks like a worthy effort. Consider leaving a ping for the other participants in the thread, to get them to look at your paragraph: See Template:ping which explains how to do this. Or you could leave them talk messages. EdJohnston (talk) 04:05, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you for your assistance. I am not good at administrative issues. :) Borsoka (talk) 04:47, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Me and Eurocentral

Before being blocked at the request of the relentless anti-sock fighter Thehoboclown, I need to offer you and User:Fakirbakir an explanation regarding my statement I assure you that Eurocentral is not my account, it would be a waste of time to ask for a SP investigation. Even though he acted at my instructions a couple of times, it is impossible to prove that. posted on a Wikimedia Commons talk page. It was a terrible misunderstanding, my intention wasn't at all to defiantly reveal an off-wiki cooperation of me to Eurocentral. Because of my semantical misidentification of "even if" with "even though", the meaning of my phrase was altered in a unfortunate way. He is not editing at my instructions and this should be obvious from his editing style. Also, the 79.112.x.x. IPs belong to him and not to me (I used to edit from the 79.117.x.x. range before being blocked for my "disruptive influence" to en.wikipedia). Cenamol (talk) 14:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not believe you. Actually, you approached him on 13 November 2013 [8], informing him of your gmail, and deleted the same message after he had contacted you [9]. Borsoka (talk) 15:06, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
I can't prove you the value of truth of my statement, it is your right to believe what you want. The fact that we exchanged emails (as Hungarians editors also use(d) to do) doesn't mean that he is a zombie acting at my orders. As a matter of fact, I repudiate the majority of his edits on Origin of the Romanians article. He does not own the necessary skills for being a contributor here. Cenamol (talk) 15:13, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
Based on my own experiences, I agree with your last sentence. :) Borsoka (talk) 15:22, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

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Nice work. Keep calm and carry on! TrixAreForKidsSillyRabbit (talk) 04:04, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
Thank you. És minden jót. Borsoka (talk) 04:42, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

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nemesseg

Szia Borsoka, szerinted ezek a forrasok [10] [11] megfelelnek a "reliable source" kovetelmenyeinek? Nagyon jo kis osszefoglalok, de megiscsak valami blog-fele oldalrol...Ha igen akkor szivesen atforditanek ezt azt. Fakirbakir (talk) 20:47, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Nekem úgy tűnik, hogy self-published ([12]). Viszont a cikkekben felhasznált irodalom jónak tűnik. Borsoka (talk) 02:28, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

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Eurocentral, please read what vandalism means before accusing other editors of vandalism. Borsoka (talk) 07:05, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

Another sock for you

Hi Borsoka. Take a look here for a predecessor of Afro-Eurasian Man. Regards, Rui ''Gabriel'' Correia (talk) 16:15, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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Hogy lehet az, hogy kulonbozik az oldalszam? A google books szerint p. 151 [13]. Fakirbakir (talk) 15:27, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

Nem tudom. Az én könyvemben egyértelműen 125. A 151. oldalon a kazár rovásírásról van szó, és egy szó sincs Ajtonyról. Borsoka (talk) 15:30, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Was Hungarian nobility in the Principality of Translyvania or not?

A IP editor wrote in article István Jósika that this man was a "Hungarian noble in the Principality of Transylvania". On the other hand in Hungarian nobility it is written that "The Hungarian nobility consisted of a privileged group of laymen, most of whom owned inheritable landed property, in the Kingdom of Hungary between the 1260s and 1946". There is a conflict, because Principality of Transylvania was not inside Kingdom of Hungary. By the definition from Hungarian nobility, someone outside Kingdom of Hungary can not be a member of Hungarian nobility

Please sign your comments. Please refer to reliable sources when stating anything. Borsoka (talk) 16:45, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

There are 2 contradictory statements:

1. "The Hungarian nobility consisted of a privileged group of laymen, most of whom owned inheritable landed property, in the Kingdom of Hungary (in Hungarian nobility article)

2. Baron István Jósika de Branyicska or Ştefan Jósika (? – 11 September 1598)[1] was a Romanian-born[2] Hungarian noble in the Principality of Transylvania (in István Jósika article)

Statement 1 affirms that Hungarian nobility were a privileged group in the Kingdom of Hungary, while statement 2 affirms that Jósika belonged to the Hungarian nobility, despite the fact that he did not live in the Kingdom of Hungary (he lived in the Principality of Transylvania, but he is still said to be a member of the Hungarian nobility). I hope you understand my concern. This can be corrected in 2 ways

1. To write in the introduction of Hungarian nobility that Hungarian nobility also lived in the Principality of Transylvania

2. To write that Jósika was a member of the Transylvanian Hungarian nobility, unlinking Hungarian nobility which, according to the introduction, presents the nobility from the Kingdom of Hungary (and not from the Principality of Transylvania)

Comment by Robert L. 94.21.10.195 (talk) 18:23, 9 December 2014 (UTC)

There is no contradiction, because the Principality of Transylvania has a special connection with the Kingdom of Hungary, but I made a minor correction. Borsoka (talk) 01:36, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

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  1. ^ Markó 2006, p. 110.
  2. ^ History of Romania: Compendium. Ioan Aurel Pop, Ioan Bolovan, Romanian Cultural Institute: "...the promotion of remarkable Romanians such as John Hunyadi, Matthias Corvinus, loan (John) Getzi, Stephen Josika and Nicolaus Olahus"

 

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