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Historians of the Crusades

Clearly the title is a problem, hopefully the content isn't. As you are probably aware, I was under considerable pressure to cut the size of the "Later historians..." article, to the point where some were just splitting pieces off without coordination. So the article in question was spun off last week and, still need to cut more, the section on Travelers was moved there a couple of days ago.

I'm not 100% sure of what you are questioning, but it think it is why are they called historians. That's probably a bad word, as most aren't, and maybe sources is a better word. I can point you to a number of Crusades compilations that identify that pilgrimages, archaeology, geography, etc., are sources for Crusader histories. The first places that triggered my interest in them were the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Crusades (Bibliography and Sources), the bibliography in Setton's six-volume set and the Routledge Companion to the Crusades. This article hasn't gelled yet as the major pieces were just put together.

As to your specific questions on Michaël Eytzinger, Origen, Eusebius of Caesarea and Ahmad ibn Rustah, here's what I have: Eytzinger, referenced by Titus Tobler; Origen, in Chapter II of Volume I of Setton, Eusebius in PPTS, ibn Rustah in Ency Iranica by C. E. Bosworth.

I think the title is wrong, but I'm not sure how to right it. They are all part of the auxiliary sciences of history, but that doesn't make a very good title. I open to suggestions for titles, structure and content. Dr. Grampinator (talk) 03:02, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification. Yes the title is misleading. My concern is that I do not see any references to the crusades in the sources cited in the article to verify Eytzinger, Origen, Eusebius, Ibn Rusta, etc. in a list about the sources of the crusades. Borsoka (talk) 03:21, 11 January 2021 (UTC)

Long Campaign

Hi Borsoka. I was reading about John Hunyadi in Wikipedia and I found some doubts. What the Long Campaign is? When I try to read about it, it redirects to Crusade of Varna. According to the article of John Hunyadi, the Long Campaign was military campaign against the Ottomans organized by the Kingdom of Hungary and Poland and it was launched on April 1443. On the other hand, in the Crusade of Varna, which took place on October 1443, participated not only the Kingdom of Hungary, but also participated other Christian countries. So, why the Long Campaign is merged into the Crusade of Varna if they are different campaigns? Furthermore, it is said that the Long Campaign was successful and the Crusade of Varna was unsuccessful. Could you solve that doubt? Greetings Kardam (talk) 12:50, 14 January 2021 (UTC)

I assume they are two separate campaigns. The success of the Long Campaign made the Crusade of Varna possible. Borsoka (talk) 01:20, 15 January 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you for your message. Yes, it looks helpful. Borsoka (talk) 01:55, 20 January 2021 (UTC)

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Thanks

Thanks for the positive sentiment on the talk page of the damned earlier. All the best. Boynamedsue (talk) 23:54, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Aimery of Cyprus

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Tripoli

Hello and thanks for fixing Alice of Champagne. I was 90% sure that it was Lebanon but I don't know the topic and couldn't find any evidence. I've fixed most of the cases myself but had to tag several more. If you can help with any then that would be appreciated: Abaqa Khan, Antisemitism in Turkey, Ayyubid dynasty, Balian of Arsuf, Battle of al-Sannabra, Dr. Dahesh, Freemasonry in Ghana, George Azar, Great Plague of Marseille, Helvis of Ibelin, History of Jerusalem, House of Lusignan, Mongol Empire, Pisa. Thanks, Certes (talk) 10:21, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Fixed all but two. In two or three cases, the word referred to the County of Tripoli. Borsoka (talk) 11:22, 29 January 2021 (UTC)

Szekely language

You oppose the idea of Szekely language? Why? It has its own script and it's a language. Magysze (talk) 12:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Read and apply WP:NOR and refer to reliable source when stating anything in WP. Borsoka (talk) 12:53, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

The sources there are plenty.

Welcome sign in Latin and in Old Szekely script for the town of Vonyarcvashegy (𐲮𐳛𐳚𐳀𐳢𐳄𐳮𐳀𐳤𐳏𐳉𐳎), Hungary

It does have a writing yes? Magysze (talk) 12:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

You should only refer to some reliable sources. Borsoka (talk) 12:58, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Reliable sources speak about Szekely people, you don't recognize Szekely people? Magysze (talk) 12:59, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Use the article's talk page and refer to reliable sources mentioning the term "Szekely language". Sorry, I will ignore your remarks here. Borsoka (talk) 13:18, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

You said "And most modern Hungarians descended from Slavic and Germanic ancestors." Really? Do you have any source for that?? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magysze (talk • contribs) 16:35, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Any if you didn't ever heard about Szekely language is because you don't speak it.

Do you recognize Szekely identity as different from Hungarian or not? This is the question. It shows what kind of Hungarian you are. Magysze (talk) 17:07, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Use the article's talk page. Borsoka (talk) 17:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

OK, pls be respectful to Szekely people. It was enough you tried to push your language. Now, Szekely identity apart of Hungarian have to be restored. Magysze (talk) 17:14, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Admit you have some Anti-Szekely sentiment, admit it. I see your edits, you can't support me because I said I am proud Szekely. Magysze (talk) 17:50, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

my ethnicity

My ethnicity shouldn't be of concern for you. Are you a harasser? Or do you have some problems with Szekely people ethnicity? Magysze (talk) 17:56, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Nobody's ethnicity is a concern for me. It was you who have changed your ethnicity several times. Borsoka (talk) 18:32, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Inflation of Csango

Since they are 2.165 in the census in 1992 why appears 40,000 now? Is it like the same lie that Hungary has more than 10 million people, when actually has less? But you love to lie? You do like to inflate the numbers right? Have no sense of reality. Magysze (talk) 17:27, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Szeklers - "special race" of Hungarians

All the scholars, travelers, leaders who crossed the Romanian space found the uniqueness of the Szeklers, as well as the Saxons (another element of colonization), Catholic implants in the Romanian environment.

Catholicized by the Hungarians, accepted as allies, as a medieval "nation", the descendants of the Avars continued to be, ethnically, something else. Because, apart from the runes (which the Romans, their teachers, had given up at the time of the adoption of Slavonic, as the liturgical language and the Cyrillic alphabet), the Szeklers continued to have their own language, dress and customs, still visible in the twentieth century. XVI, on the verge of extinction in the XVII-XIX centuries and which only some elders still remember today, in the Ciuc area, so effective was the Hungarianization process, supported primarily by the church, both Catholic and , later, the reformed one. The fact that they still call themselves Szeklers today, however, attests to the persistence of the consciousness of a fundamental difference from the Hungarian population, of a distinct original ethnicity.

In the 16th century, although at first sight "language, like all customs" brought them closer to the Hungarians (Georg Reicherstorffer), the well-known Paduan physician Francesco della Valle (? -1545) could not help but notice that "I am still a barbarian nation. "other" than the Hungarians. A deep connoisseur of Transylvanian realities, the great humanist scholar Antonius Verantius (Anton Verancsics) (1504-1578) concluded, following an objective analysis, that the Szeklers "differ from the Hungarians in almost all their customs, laws and way of life; religion, and it does not resemble in any way, even as a language, when they speak in the image of their ancestors.

Along the same lines, Nicolae Romanul (Nicolaus Olahus) (1493-1568), his contemporary, noticed in the Szeklers subject to the Hungarian offensive that they still had "some words of their own." Humanist scholars unanimously defined them as men made for war, a "nation of cruel men" (P. Ranzanus), "harsh and fierce, as if born for battle" (Georg Reichertorffer), with "hardened and warrior people" (Stefan Brodarics), which motivated the long-standing resistance to Hungarianization and the preservation of the privileges that the Hungarian royalty and great nobility were forced to permanently recognize.

Practically, until late in the modern era, intertwining their history with that of the native and majority Romanians in Transylvania, opposing the offensive of the royalty of the Hungarian magnates and the Saxon patricians, the Szeklers enjoyed "laws and customs quite different from others. ", dividing among themselves" their inheritances and services on tribes and tribes "(A. Possevino). Used exclusively in military service, they retained their status as free men, still living "according to their laws and morals" (Georg Reichertorffer). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magysze (talk • contribs) 17:37, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Controversy on Szekely language

You can help this article to develop it. Magysze (talk) 18:07, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Oh you did edit war before https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Borsoka&diff=208472043&oldid=208456006 Magysze (talk) 18:15, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

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https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Michael_the_Brave&diff=next&oldid=1006753205 stop deleting my edits. Magysze (talk) 16:51, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

Sockpuppets are not defended by WP:3RR. Borsoka (talk) 16:52, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

I do ask to be checked. So, live with it. Magysze (talk) 16:54, 14 February 2021 (UTC)

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region/fiefdom

Hi Boroska, since I have seen you tend to act neutrally in past discussions regarding various topics, I'm happy to accept the wording you prefer in the great region/fiefdom scandal. I've answered your post on the talkpage with the text from the source that specifically uses the wording "regions", to me it seems clear but Kiengir disagrees. I really can't be bothered with an RfC, so whatever you think follows policy I'll go with. If you prefer not to get involved, and given the nature of me and Kiengir's past interactions, I would fully understand that, drop me a line so I can relist it for a 3rd opinion.

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Thanks for the input Boroska, just double checking, am I correct in interpreting your comment as a preference for "fiefdom" in the text? Boynamedsue (talk) 07:05, 9 March 2021 (UTC)

Yes, thank you. Borsoka (talk) 02:05, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Cheers, changed it now. Have a good one. Boynamedsue (talk) 06:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Union of Bulgaria and Romania

Hello Borsoka, some time ago you participated in the peer review of this article. I since nominated it to FA and now it is in danger of being archived as it has been opened for too much time (my fault). It would be a great help if you participate again to avoid its closure, although of course you can not do it you're busy or can't do it. Thanks in advance. Super Ψ Dro 09:45, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

I beg your pardon. I am really busy in real life now, so I have no time for a review. Borsoka (talk) 02:09, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Don't worry, no problem then. Super Ψ Dro 14:08, 17 March 2021 (UTC)

Question

Hi,

regarding this ([2]), whether ot not is sourced, can we say it's true/accurate? (in contrast(?)/accordance with Old Church Slavonic)? Thank you.(KIENGIR (talk) 15:24, 17 March 2021 (UTC))

I do not know. Borsoka (talk) 02:24, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

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Denis, son of Ampud

Hello! I plan to write the article of Denis, son of Ampud in the coming days and weeks (you had created a stub long time ago). If I remember correctly, you own the official English translation of Master Roger's Carmen Miserabile. If so, I would like to ask for your help. I need the passage (and of course exact referenc data, chapter, page number etc.) where the master mentions the blinding of Denis (within the chapter where the master discusses the years before the Mongol invasion, what may have been the reason for the defeat of the Hungarians). I want to include it as a quote in the article because it is the only contemporary source that mentions the fate of Denis after the death of his lord Andrew II. I hope you can help me.

P.s. There are some new English language volumes about medieval Hungary that may be of interest to you. The Economy of Medieval Hungary (2018, Brill) and the Arpadiana series, for instance L. Pósán: Hungary and the Teutonic Order in the Middle Ages. Best regards, --Norden1990 (talk) 21:20, 29 April 2021 (UTC)

Szervusz. Here you can see the relevant part ([3]). It is quite short. Thank you for your message about the books. I ordered some. Borsoka (talk) 00:34, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Thank you. --Norden1990 (talk) 05:12, 2 May 2021 (UTC)

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Thank you. Borsoka (talk) 16:24, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

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Karácsony's English

We have a debate whether Gergely Karácsony's language skills merit a line ih his biography, regarding the latest events in Hungary... And can origo.hu and Magyar Nemzet be qualified as only pure evil propaganda?

Please join in, I appreciate your balanced point of view, things getting heated there...

gergely karácsonys language skills...

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Issues in Stefan Lazarević

Hi, Borsoka. I look to you becuase you have fixed articles about medieval serbian rulers and even some of them are good articles. So, could you fix it up some day? The current edition of this article is a translation from the Serbian Wikipedia, where it is a Featured Article. However, it has few references in the Serbian Wikipedia. In English Wikipedia it is not written well and also is unreferenced. Also, it looks that is no neutral. These are the issues that this articles has. Best 190.233.181.220 (talk) 10:46, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. Yes, the article could be improved. For the time being, I am concentrating on other articles, but Stefan Lazarević is within my scope of interest. :) Borsoka (talk) 01:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

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Coloman, Bishop of Győr

Hello, I just created a short article on Coloman, Bishop of Győr, son of Károly Róbert—the problem is that much of it relies on a rather old source. Since you added the details on Coloman to Charles I of Hungary back in 2014 I'd be very grateful if you could have a look and, if possible, verify/insert details from the Korai magyar történeti lexikon, which you referenced there, since I don't have access to it. —Nizolan ^(talk · c.) 16:06, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

Thank you for your message. The WP article new presents the facts about Coloman's life fully in line with the article in Korai magyar történeti lexikon. Borsoka (talk) 05:57, 6 June 2021 (UTC)

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@Norfolkbigfish: I always enjoy when you pretend that it is me who is involved in edit warring: when I leave you a 3rr-warning in edit summary you always put this message on my Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 15:51, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

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@Norfolkbigfish: I ping you for your information. Dominic Mayers (talk) 17:17, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

@Dominic Mayers: please answer my questions on the article's Talk page before sharing your understanding of our policies: what are the subtopics, etc? I suggest we should continue this discussion on the article's Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 17:20, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

This discussion would not fit at all in the Crusading talk page. An article's talk page is not the place to discuss WP policies. What I did here is exactly what is recommended in this case. Dominic Mayers (talk) 17:23, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, I do not want to discuss WP policies in a group of arbitrarily selected editors. Borsoka (talk) 17:27, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

This was for your own information. If you keep showing a misunderstanding of the policies in a problematic manner, we will indeed move this discussion at a higher level. Dominic Mayers (talk) 17:35, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Please do it. Borsoka (talk) 17:36, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

This is not a game that we play. It will take our precious time and the time of other non involved editors. So, we must try to resolve the issue in a simple manner using the guidelines mentioned above. Dominic Mayers (talk) 19:01, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

I would be grateful if you stop commenting this issue on my Talk page. We can discuss any issue on the relevant Talk pages. Borsoka (talk) 01:40, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

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@Catlemur: thank you for the nomination. This was a real and pleasant surprise. @Buster7: thank you for the wonderful personalized barnstar. Yes, you know me: I am of an other tribe of monsters. :) Borsoka (talk) 06:52, 27 June 2021 (UTC)

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Check your irredentistic anti=semitic and Jobbik party statements before you look in the mirror. Are you now ashame of yourself? You can admit you hate the slovakian, you hate the roma people from Hungary, you hate the serbians, you hate the romanians, you hate all. You are just a irredentist, anti-semitic hungarian sock of Kiengir.

If I had made anti-semitic, irredentistic and "Jobbik party" statements I should ashame myself. I do not hate anybody or any nation. Please do not revert my messages on my Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 14:33, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

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William of Villehardouin

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article William of Villehardouin has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. There are several "citation needed" tags that will need to be dealt with before the GAR.

Best of luck with the GAN when you get to it..

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@Twofingered Typist: thank you for your thorough and comprehensive review. Now, I am busy in real life, but I will address your concerns in a couple of days. Have a nice week! Borsoka (talk) 03:45, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Hungarian nobility

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Count of the Székelys

Previously, you tried unsuccessfully to obtain Zoltán Kordé's monograph on the history of the dignity. It has now been made available free of charge to everyone in the database of the University of Szeged, see here. --Norden1990 (talk) 09:33, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

Köszönöm. Borsoka (talk) 01:34, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Boleslaus, bishop of Vác and naming conventions

Greetings. How is the naming convention/consensus on historical places in this topic? Since my edit of using the oldest recorded names apparently wasnt good enough. If I remmeber correctly, the guidelines say to use the most common/relevant name for the period. Otherwise, the most relevant ones, by which other people can find the places, seems most valid. IE. using modern official names for Slovak/Hungarian villages respectively. Is there something I am not aware of? Hrdina Impéria (talk) 19:52, 27 September 2021 (UTC)

You can read the specific naming convention here. Editors adopted and have applied it for more than a decade. Borsoka (talk) 01:40, 29 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks, will read it. I only ever found generic guidelines while looking for them. Edit: So by the rules, I guess hungarian names are fine. Should Slovak ones be added in parentheses though where applicable, so people know the lands are now in different countries? Hrdina Impéria (talk) 08:16, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Battle of Baia‎

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Third Party Opinion

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History of Transylvania POV

Hi, considering this edit on the history of Transylvania: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Transylvania&diff=1061364738&oldid=1061345300

How would you like me to edit it to be less POV and comply to a neutral point of view?

I will take the removed edits in listed order: Name of Transylvania, how would you consider rewording it? Aurel Ioan Pop and Fedinand Lot's take on romanization, how can it be reworded in a more netural way? Gesta Hungarorum, I don't consider it a POV problem as its a quote from the actual book. The 1288 and spring of 1291 events I don't consider them POV, which parts appears POV to you? Same as the structure of the estates in the 13th and 14th centuries. And the Romanians loss of their estate status.

If you have the sources in question, could you please provide a neutral point of view verison of the removed paragraphs? or if you don't, edit my paragraphs in a way you feel will achieve a more neutral tone?

Thank you TheGoldAge (talk) 08:14, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

I have reverted your undo on the History of Transylvania as I believe a more productive thing to do is to rewrite the paragraphs in a way we can both agree are neutral than to remove them altogether. Feel free to edit them as you see fit and we can work from there. TheGoldAge (talk) 14:00, 21 December 2021 (UTC)