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Archive 2

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This article is unviable in its current form

Hi, Bolter21! There is a problem with Draft:Sheikh Omar Hadid Brigade as a prospective article. It is the same organization currently calling itself Army of the Islamic State, for which we already have an article. Therefore, we either should be talking about the Brigade in the past tense in your draft, and removing all material from 2 April 2015 on, or we could integrate the text of your draft into Army of the Islamic State. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 00:20, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

After some readings and thinking, I"ve decided that there is no reason the delete the page. I will turn it to a stub article because the brigade was part of Ansar Bait al-Maqdis before it turned to the Army of the Islamic State. I will merge the information I have here with the one in the Army of the Islamic State's one but leave the page to describe the group. Maybe later merge it as a section in the main page.

Great idea. Let me know if you need help. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 18:12, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

List of terrorist incidents, 2015

Regarding this edit, [1], when you change a URL to a source, be sure to change the other parameters as well. For example, it is now CNN and should not claim Reuters as the agency. Also, the accessed date should be updated. Geogene (talk) 00:22, 18 July 2015 (UTC)

Minor

Hello! I see that you mark virtually all your edits as minor, even when they most certainly are not. This is confusing when editors, as I often do, scan the history of an article, and it is not how the minor marking is supposed to be used. Please read WP:Minor. Regards! --T*U (talk) 14:51, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Haha, I have waited for this. You see, I spoke with someone who is a long-timer in Wikipedia and he told me that this is mostly not used because editors tend to review everything (And I make lot of edits in the Israeli-Palestinian conflict so reviews are made very often). I usually do check but I do think most of my edits are minor with the sense that they will be reviewed anyway but now when someone finally said something about it, I will change my prespective about 'minor edits'.

Thanks --Bolter21 (talk) 18:20, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Well, your "long-timer" has got it somewhat wrong. It has nothing to do with reviewing or not. It is meant for edits that make only superficial changes, like correcting typos etc. I wish you would read the guideline WP:MINOR, where you also can read what is not minor. Among other things it states explicitly that "Adding comments to a talk page or other discussion" is not minor, like you marked your answer to me here. Glad you take it with a laugh and not with a sneer, but it is actually to be taken as seriously as other WP guidelines. Regards! --T*U (talk) 18:49, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

Alright, I will try to read it before my next edit in Wikipedia. And it's my fault for understanding what the long-timer said as if I shouldn't pay much of an attention to this. Anyways, thanks --Bolter21 (talk) 19:06, 13 August 2015 (UTC)

1RR

You have violated the 1RR (not to mention NPOV) at List of Israeli cities. Please self-revert your changes or you may be reported. Thank you. nableezy - 22:29, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

nableezy -- I understood that there was a too major for people to accept them. I reverted the word "Disputed" to "Occupaid" but I kept my important edit in the first paragraph. The definition of a city in israel is a "Local govermnment with the status of a city council". That you can't resist. I told in the edit that if you have a problem with the sentence of the Israeli settlments, have fun and change it, cause as you can see, I gave up on trying to convince using disputed for East Jerusalem, I already have too many discussions on this from other articles talks. My important change was the definition of a city so this one, no need to revert.

1RR violation again

You were notified of the 1RR rule before, but just to make sure: [ARBPIA notice deleted, see above] Now you can self-revert at Palestine before someone reports you. Zero^talk 11:34, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

I was not the one to revert a based edit with no acual explanetion. --Bolter21 12:07, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

I have deleted the ARBPIA alert since I did not realise that you had one already before and it is still on this page. I see that you have not reverted. So be it. Please visit Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Enforcement#Bolter21. Zero^talk 14:23, 6 September 2015 (UTC)

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E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:31, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

List of terrorist incidents, 2015

Hi, can you explain why List of terrorist incidents, 2015 is tagged for POV? It looks tightly defined and evenhanded to me, and a look at the extensive talk page failed to explain what the issue is.E.M.Gregory (talk) 10:34, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

Well, a user claimed that attacks against Israeli soldiers who are not involved in fight are not terrorist attacks. Thank you for mentioning this, I think I will remove the tag after some further discussion. --Bolter21 10:41, 22 September 2015 (UTC)

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I corrected your article-in-the-making a little. I hope you find the changes useful. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 07:30, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Defenetly understandable and called for. I still want to struggle myself for writing "Stiations" instted of "Citation". Bolter21 (talk) 09:48, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Also, although I didn't change it, I don't think we use the word "terrorist" to describe militant groups... If you choose to include it anyway, it's going to be removed. You can say "armed" militant group. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 12:50, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

Well, about 5 hours ago they claimd to have shot 3 grad rockets (only 2 were spotted) on the Israeli regional council Eshkol. They did it almost 10 times past 2 months... --Bolter21 (talk) 23:29, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

That's not the point. You can fire thousands of rockets (as the USA did for example in World War II) and not be a terrorist actor. Violence is not necessarily terrorist. It's the same policy most serious media in the West follow, not to use the epithet "terrorist" to describe anyone using violence. For example the USA killed millions of people during World War II. Also, etymologically, you can attack an opponent to kill them, to destroy their infrastructure, to weaken them, to deter them, to free their victims, etc., not necessarily to terrorize your enemy. I'm just telling you, not willing to start a debate on the subject. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 04:04, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Oh, they just took it out. I told you. --ExperiencedArticleFixer (talk) 04:05, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

See WP:TERRORIST.     ←   ZScarpia   14:04, 28 September 2015 (UTC)

talkback

see Talk:Palestinian_National_Authority#Infobox.

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List of terrorist incidents 2015

Ref this. (Undid revision 684058292 by Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) for the next undiscussed move I will report you. If you want to remove an attack discuss it.) I warn you to be very careful. I do not have to discuss any removal of any object which does not have an RS that uses the word terrorist. It has recently ben pointed out to you that it is not your opinion that counts, but an RS. I am posting evidence of this on the talk page, so please be careful before you restore material that does not have an RS.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 16:58, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

B21, do you see what you did here? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Palestinian_National_Authority&diff=684067057&oldid=684066731 It is called removing unsourced material, did you seek approval from others before you did this? Do you expect to be threatened with 'reporting' if you do it again? I doubt it, and would ask you to show the same courtesy to others.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 17:06, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Unlike your edit, there is a general discussion on this in the talk page. Your edits are driven from a general agenda but you havent gave anyone the chance to challenge your agenda when speaking about specific attack. +I wasn't the first to remove this edit, the same one was done few days ago and reverted as well. --Bolter21 18:45, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

Please stop adding unsourced content, as you did to List of terrorist incidents, 2015. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. InedibleHulk (talk) 00:02, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

I am not requesting to add unsourced meterial. You and Johnmcintyre1959 have already deleted attacks that I brought sources showing they were terrorist attacks accuarding to the sources. If you really want to help the article, do some effort and discuss each attack and stop accusing me as if I was the one who added them. --Bolter21 19:12, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

It's not really worthwhile to argue whether your edit is or is not an addition. If there is text in the article after your edit that wasn't there before your edit, then your edit added content and is thus an addition. Please stop making additions without consensus on the article's talk page. UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 20:03, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

The thing is simple, I didn't add the content, I restored un-discussed removed content. --Bolter21 20:05, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

You may wish to review WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT, which seems relevant. It matters not one lick what the content is, how long it was in the article before someone removed it, or whether it should or should not have been removed. If you make an edit that includes content that was not in the article before your edit, you're adding content. Whether it was there previously or not is irrelevant. You've been told by multiple editors that you're adding content, and that the content you are adding is unsourced. So arguing about whether it's an addition or not is silly when the point is that the content is unsourced - on what planet is it acceptable to add unsourced material that is disputed? UltraExactZZ ^Said~ Did 20:13, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

The users claimed it is unsources without any piece of research for sources. IdedibleHulk removed the 2015 Baga massacre from the list under the claim there is no source that calls it a terrorist attack although it was described as a terrorist incident 12. Therefore, the user IdedibleHulk is removing content, claiming it is unsourced without further researching it and trying to understand why it was added to the article in the first place and that's why I have requested mulitple times to discuss each piece of content which is removed. He also removed the 2015 Tel Aviv attacks which is considered a terrrist attack, 3 4 5 6 the 2015 Arar attack 7 and the list can be longer, therefore user IdedibleHulk is doing illegitimate unilaterally moves. --Bolter21 20:30, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

And there was no consensus that was reached, two users apeared out of the bloom and refuse to discuss with me about the changes. --Bolter21 20:50, 5 October 2015 (UTC)

Question about an editor who follows you

I and a couple of other editors suspect that User:Johnmcintyre1959 is an experienced user, returning under a new name. I wonder if he may be User:InedibleHulk ? They both weigh in on List of terrorist incidents, 2015 in similar style. someone just suggested that I take it to investigation. Not sure that I have the technical skills to do that, but thought I'd ask your opinion.E.M.Gregory (talk) 19:39, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

I can belive something like this, both have the same wrong agenda but I can't say for sure, nor did I ever suspected such things. --Bolter21 19:43, 8 October 2015 (UTC)

Question

Do you think Lions' Gate stabbing should have a current events template?E.M.Gregory (talk) 15:28, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

It should have the template usually used in terrorist attack which Infobox civilian attack. --Bolter21 16:07, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

@Bolter21: If you do that article, here is a source you might use to give balance by citing the positions of Palestinian officials [2]. On the Lions' Gate stabbings, what I had done was to add a small section on the Oct. 6 stabbing at Lions Gate to the article about the Oct. 3 stabbings, then moved the title to Lions Gate stabbings - with an s, so that he Oct. 6 incident could be covered on a page where some people might expect to find it. Then I linked that incident, just fyi. Not arguing, just explaining. cheers.E.M.Gregory (talk) 11:38, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Ok --Bolter21 17:07, 9 October 2015 (UTC)

Jerusalem article

See the note at the top of the Jerusalem article's talkpage: "In May/June 2013, there was a Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Jerusalem about the lead section of this article. This discussion was mandated by the Arbitration Committee, and its result remains binding for three years (until January 2016)." You might like to revert your recent edit before somebody else does it for you.     ←   ZScarpia   12:34, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

I am not sure what you want from me.. I fixed an unbased claim, I didn't change the content of the article, please be more spesific about what exactly I have violated? --Bolter21 13:18, 1 October 2015 (UTC)

Read the note. The wording of the section of the article's introduction which you edited is fixed and cannot be edited. It would have looked better if you had reverted your edit yourself, but somebody else has now done it.     ←   ZScarpia   20:19, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

It was a mistake edit that was made cause of a misunderstanding. Nevermind, thanks for your notice. --Bolter21 20:33, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

Unsourced material re added at List of terrorist incidents 2015

See this revert. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_terrorist_incidents,_2015&diff=prev&oldid=685746239 It has been explained to you that in order to add an incident to this list we require an RS that uses the word terrorist in relation to the perpetrator. The source for this incident does not do so. Therefore without a reliable source that meets the required criteria this incident needs to be removed.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 19:05, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

You have no consensus to determine which attacks will be in the list. --Bolter21 19:10, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

And you don't care for the sake of the article, you just search for cheep ways to remove attacks that are related to Israel. --Bolter21 19:12, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

There is a clear concensus at this talk page (see comments by Inedible Hulk and ZScarpia), that all incidents must have an RS that defines them as terrorist attacks - the word terror is not enough-. There was plenty of discussion, but you appear to want to ignore it.Johnmcintyre1959 (talk) 21:08, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

1) There was no consensus.

2) Then why you remove only attacks related to Israel? --Bolter21 (talk to me) 21:11, 1 November 2015 (UTC)

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Thanks for the notice but the edits was based on the source listed and didn't really added more content, it just made the details provided more clear. But it's not a big deal, I guess no one was hurt. --Bolter21 (talk to me) 20:07, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

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Revert

Having your teeth smashed while in detention and being beaten up, if true, is a violent incident. We ought to get it straight that we report what either side deems or describes as violent. I personally don't 'believe' almost everything of what I read in these Israeli and Palestinian reports, since both are extremely thin on details. Please revert. Nishidani (talk) 14:44, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

The violent incident occured in 10 October 2014. He was sentenced today and unless you think that using a Gavel is a violent incident, it has no place in this article, it has place in 2014 article, on 10 October, when violence occured.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 14:48, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

Then, since you edit the other article, why didn't you just shift the information to the appropriate date there, rather than, as you have done, erase it from the record.

More broadly. the whole system of sentencing is regarded as illegal, and when such a court system imposes a sentence, it is, in terms of human rights, violating a fundamental right. To sentence children aged 14 (in an occupied country to boot) to prison terms is a violation of international law ([3]/The military legislation dealing with minors does not conform to international and Israeli law B'tselem). This article uses International Law as a parameter.Nishidani (talk) 15:26, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

"List of violent incidents in the Israeli-Palestinan conflict"..."This is a list of violent incidents in the ongoing Israeli-Palestinian conflict".. I don't really see any thing that says that sentencing someone is violent nor do international law matters here and I assumed that the incident is already there, but thank you for noting me that, I should take a look at those articles to make sure no one mistaken "Israeli is shit" incidents with "violent incidents".--Bolter21 (talk to me) 15:31, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

I've thought it over. Your call was correct. It's not a matter of 'Israel is shit'. Most pro-Palestinian writers regard I/P articles as pouring shit on Palestinians, and hector people that for this reason it is unreliable. Partisans do that, get angry because they see the same stuff differently. It is, any way. a matter of getting correctly and neutrally incidents that are defined comprehensively in the 2015 Jan-June article header, and I don't give a fuck who gets offended either way. I'd appreciate your moving that edit to the appropriate place in the 2015 October article. But will do it myself, if you can't see reason to.Nishidani (talk) 19:39, 10 January 2016 (UTC)

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'clearly need to start understand the words you are using to describe things'. You want me to go through your editsw and correct the numerous errors you make in English to describe things?Nishidani (talk) 13:49, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

Have fun.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 13:56, 20 January 2016 (UTC)

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There is a 1RR restriction on all articles about the I-P issue, per ARBPIA(2,3). Your first edit today was from an earlier revert, so reverting me was 2RR. You surpassed 1RR and if you do not self-revert, I will report this to AE. As shown in the article Talk page, this issue has been discussed. Dave Dial (talk) 16:11, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Didn't even rememberd that I made that edit.. I"ll self revert. Be sure I am going to revert again tommorow. The State of Israel is a member of the United Nations since 1949, it is recognized by all of the members of the UN's security council and therefore a legal country. S-o-Palestine on the other-hand.. Not only their affiliated government, the Palestinian National Council, doesn't practice any governance on the land it claims (Which the Palestinian Legislativ Council and the Hamas goverence of the Gaza Strip do), they are also facing a reocgnition dispute, since they are not reocgnized by three of the UN security council and therefore not (yet) a legitemate country. This argument created the consensus for List of Terrorist incidents, 2015, not to put any flag for the West Bank since there is no internationally legal and legitemate sovereign in the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, so Israeli settlements and the PA are under no legal sovereignty. In 2012 the UN have declared they will replace the name of the Palestinian Territories to "State of Palestine" to refer to the territory that was captured in 1967 and regarded as occupied since then, but after all the term Occupied Palestinian Teritory is used by the United Nations, via OHCHR, to refer to the two territories of the West Bank and Gaza, regarded as one since 1967. The term "Palestinian Terrioties" (without the "occupied") is used today by the BBC, The Guardian, US Department of State and even the Palestinian Central Bureau of Statistics, which explains why editors choosed it as the title of the Palestinian Territories article.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 20:10, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

You've just broken 1R

At Gaza Strip. You are obliged to revert.Nishidani (talk) 15:01, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

I edited, you added, I reverted. I count only on revert..--Bolter21 (talk to me) 15:03, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Look at the several prior changes to the text made before I edited it. And by the way, I only added one legal generalization to the lead from a legal textbook though several were available, as anyone can see. The Gaza/Jericho areas were defined as self-governing Palestinian enclaves in the Oslo Accords, which defined their status thereon in. I thought everyone knew that, and that is why I didn't need more than a legal text to underline the obvious.Nishidani (talk) 15:09, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

Please link the revision I reverted in my last edit.

The definition of an enclave is a strip of land serounded by one territroy (for example the Vatican, serounded by Italy). The Gaza Strip may be called an "exclave of the State of Palestine" but the Gaza Strip is first of all a territory (unlike Nakhchivan which is first of all a sovereign part of Azerbijan). And the source you gave regards the enclaves of the Palestinian Authority, which are inside the West Bank (And formaly there was an exclave inside the Gaza Strip but today officially the Gaza Strip is an exclave of the PA). The Gaza and Jericho areas where the first places where there was jurisdiction of the Palestinians Authority, in 1994. It was created following the Gaza-Jericho agreement and was later expanded in the Oslo II accord and in 2005 you already know what happened in Gaza.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 15:48, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

I know what happened in Gaza, and it certainly isn't what is described in the last lead paragraph. Remember that we use newspapers as a last recourse: multiplying articles from them to document one phrase usage bears less weight that evidence from a text written by a scholar of international law like James Kraska. Nishidani (talk) 16:52, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

I think Brittanica, Oxford University, the United Nations and the world's top international maistream media win in this battle.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 18:47, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

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I made a comment on your talk page but this answered it all. But another question.. If I write it in my own words does it count? Sounds wierd..--Bolter21 (talk to me) 14:01, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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Ok thank you very much.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 17:34, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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Thank you!--Bolter21 (talk to me) 13:07, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

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Yes, please do help. I haven't followed this and have nothing like your degree of familiarity with the context.E.M.Gregory (talk) 23:09, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

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If it only applied to articles, it would say articles but by saying "pages", it includes talk pages as well. Liz ^Read! Talk! 22:22, 14 March 2016 (UTC)

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When you want do cnages on map before do this need good read a source! Source which you use for Sheikh Hilal is clear said ISIS launch assault but they just captured checkpoint outside the city of Sheikh Hilal but after counter-attack SAA recapture this checkpoint and forced ISIS to retreat to south from Sheikh Hilal countryside.here So on based this data we can't put semicircle near the city as ISIS retreated to their previous positions from which earlier they launched his attack without reaching any profit. So I ask you the next time to carefully read the source before edit. Sûriyeya (talk) 07:00, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

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Hi! In this edit summary, in one of your reverts, you stated "Undiscussed removal of two thirds of an article based on no consensus". This is astonishingly erroneous. I'd like to point out that for this article, a consensus was reached on the talk page on February 26 to trim the article and remove content that is based on primary sources, and to delete irrelevant rows. So the Februaury 26 version is supposed to be the "stable" version now. There were no attempts to rectify this, even after the (re)coming of Misconceptions2, or even to discuss and challenge that consensus, in point of fact, despite many requests to Misconceptions2 to discuss in the #Multiple issues section in which we reached an actual consensus (for e.g. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, implicitly: 1, 2), but to this day, he never participated nor replied there, but instead you were busy coaching canvassed edit warriors how to game semi-protection. (c.f. [4], [5]) I would thus ask you to reconsider that revert. Regards,
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My ANI comments

I would love to know why you removed my comment from ANI in this edit AusLondonder (talk) 21:17, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

I didn't notice, I was using my phone for the last couple comments.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 21:35, 13 April 2016 (UTC)

Finding a mentor

I don't know how far along you have gone in finding a mentor, but if you haven't started, you can look at WP:MENTOR for a pretty specific view on what it entails, and so forth. Let me know how it goes, if you would. - Jack Sebastian (talk) 17:57, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

I hadn't yet got around doing so, as I said, I am going on a vaccation tommorow so I decided to postpone this until I come back. I retrieved my password because after observing the ANI I saw the nerve of people to blame me for what they are doing and Gaming the system to indef ban me and topic ban me as a human.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 18:25, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

You are taking their being upset completely wrong, B21. I've been here a while, and I've seen contributors use the excuse that some exceptionally bad (ie. block- or ban-worthy) edits were made by their brother or roommate. We regularly block people for this because our primary blocking imperative is to protect the encyclopedia. An inexperienced editor using an experienced editor's account and making awful edits is disruptive; it wastes the time of those who have to undo those bad edits and wastes the time of the administrators who have to assess why the experienced editor suddenly went off the rails and to assess how much of a risk you have become. All of this wasted effort, instead of building and improving articles - our primary reason for being here.

I have been trying hard to defend your right to improve yourself as an editor, but if you continue to assume bad faith on the parts of everyone who disagrees with you, you are going to find yourself alone. I would advise you - and excuse the harshness of this - to shut up and stop editing in ANY article related to Palestine for the time being. You cannot edit neutrally on them, and that alone is enough to ban you from contributing to them. Contribute to other articles outside of your personal identity; focus instead on your interests and/or hobbies. My father (who used to edit in Wikipedia for years before retiring) never edited articles in the field of Disaster Management because he worked in the field. If he found something wrong, he pointed it out on the article discussion page (with references), or simply left it alone, knowing that the Great Average Editorship would fix the problem.

As well, please stop responding to the comments of others in the worst way possible. Get mentorship right away, and edit articles civilly. Swallow your pride and ego, and realize that you don't know everything. You are never. ever going to be the smartest person in the room when editing in Wikipedia, since everyone brings something different to the table.

If you cannot do this, your time in Wikipedia is going to be frustrating and likely brief. Instead of being angry at all the people who want to see you gone, instead focus on turning the impression people have of you around. If you want to be seen for who you are, you need to be the best version of yourself. Nothing else will be perceived through the internet medium.

That's my advice, B21; take it or leave it.

So be it. This experience was one of the worst on my recent years. I detest people who accuse me of things and when it happen, I might do things I regret. The combination of a language barrier, a real-life busy week, on the beginning of the Passover vaccation after a dense three momths was so bad that even now when I am in an hotel an a Golan Heights, this thing bothers me. So let it be a lesson for me.

I strongly oppose the idea of a consensus being supported by no sources whatsoever while other 45 sources say otherwise and only joined the person who opposed it, in adition to a group of unrelated editors defending my point, dispite all this, I agree to do it and take a break from the "battleground". No one can blame me for sharing a point of view reflected in reliable sources but if I am somehow the wrongdoer, so be it. I will continue my wiki agenda of seeing unsourced material as the devil in other topics for a while to clean my mind of this childish debate. Next time I'll be engaged in such argument I'll just apeal to dispute solving noticeboards.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 22:00, 18 April 2016 (UTC+2)

Hi there!

Thought I'd tell you a couple of things.

1. You are in danger of talking yourself into a totally unjustified topic ban on ANI if you're not careful. Sometimes it's better just to keep your mouth shut. You haven't done anything wrong on the article in question so don't hand them anything that could allow them to persuade an uninvolved administator to sanction you.
2. Please don't engage that anti-Jewish/anti-Zionist troll on Talk:Israeli–Palestinian conflict (2015–present) any further. It's the sockpuppet of a banned editor and a sockpuppet investigation will be filed imminently.

Great editing so far, but it's probably best to avoid unproductive bickering over the minute details of the conflict. Nobody reads that crap anyway. Happy editing! AnotherNewAccount (talk) 20:33, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice and good day.--Bolter21 (talk to me) 20:34, 16 April 2016 (UTC)