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User talk:Biruitorul/Archive2Hallo! I do not want to talk much - all I wanted I've already said. The only question is: what was the purpose of this quarrel? I've heard from your part only insulting epithets like "useless", "borring" and, you favourite toy, "indiscriminate". My arguments (much more reasonnable) were not taken into consideration at all... I do not insist in KEEPING this Article. Not at all! I agree on MERGING it (as it is done on other Airlines' pages), but you are also against... How can it be? How can WE be? How can we collaborate, coexiste if we are so strong against each other? "Any article we please", "any editor we like", "anything we want"... Anyway, I'm welcome by Sandstein (he is the chief here?), but I think: if it worth to be an Editor here when from the very beginning you are attacked by all others... Thanx, Dimitree —Preceding undated comment was added at 22:02, 20 December 2008 (UTC).
What's your take on this? Dahn 00:02, 19 December 2006 (UTC) HI ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm>.......... what are we talking about? Birger DahlerusHi there; you may or may not be aware that there has been excessively extensive debate as to whether the correct spelling is "Goering" or "Göring"; also between "Goebbels" or "Göbbels". Whatever you like is fine by me; the community consensus was that both were equally correct.--Anthony.bradbury 23:16, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
Niyazov's wife...Jewish? Please provide a source(s). KazakhPol 03:16, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
The new great gameI hope you like what I've done with The new great game. Thanks for pointing this out. I will work on this for a while. KazakhPol 08:17, 23 December 2006 (UTC) Sărbători Fericite!Roamata/sarbatorifericite HelpHello Biruitorul. I have noticed you are very good in English. I am now rewriting/creating two larger articles. Would you mind if I'd ask you for help with copyediting, grammar etc.? Thank you. - Darwinek 14:35, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
Yule greetingsHi, and sorry for the delay - as well as for the fact that I did not express my holiday greetings in time (don't worry about reciprocity, if you were planning to - I'm not really observant myself). I was quite pissed off at some moves on wiki that I am required to deal with, and limited my time on wiki to some stuff I wanted and some stuff I needed to do. Got back just in time to notice your excellent article on the Bărăgan deportations - thank you, we're getting closer to the larger picture. To answer your question: yes, I've tried, but success was minimal (one of my cousins may have made some minor edits on rowiki, but I'm not really sure). The mail problem is actually my net provider's (or rather, the net provider considered I had a problem) - since we're all on holiday, I couldn't unfortunately solve it whether I want to or not (otherwise, my connection is through Yahoo). 'Nyways, if we don't hear from each other until January 1st, let me wish you a the happiest of new years. Dahn 23:06, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
DYK!
Thank you for your contributions!! Nishkid64 00:00, 27 December 2006 (UTC) ThanksThank you very much for improving Zaolzie article. I have introduced basic explanation on Volksliste issue there. Answering to your questions:
How about adding some current photos (towns and nature) ? Again, thank you very much! - Darwinek 02:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC) The last oneHello. I have created the Polish minority in the Czech Republic article. It is surely the last big one on my side. Parts of the text are almost the same as in Zaolzie article. I will appreciate though if you will help. Other related smaller stubby articles are PZKO, Głos Ludu and Kongres Polaków. Thank you very much! - Darwinek 19:52, 27 December 2006 (UTC) TemplatesHello there. Regarding your president and VP templates, we should always encourage enthusiastic editors, and I am particularly like those who are enthusiastic about editing Indonesia-related articles. But, it is considered poor wiki form (wikiqette?) to simply re-revert your changes without explanation after someone has removed them. Actually, I don't think your templates are bad, they have do have some value but have you noticed that there are now two templates there? The advantage of yours compared to the other one is that (1) it is a complete list and (2) it looks a whole better - more slim. The disadvantage is that does not show the chronological order that the other does (but maybe this is OK) and it doesn't show the president at the time. Unfortunately, i don't think there is place for both. I will ask a few more INdonesia editors to comment here. kind regards Merbabu 02:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
Your templates are very useless, only to clutter article pages with unnecessary boxes!! Those templates are exactly equal with Category, no additional navigational information from your templates. Please stop adding those templates! — Indon (reply) — 09:46, 29 December 2006 (UTC) Third opinionI have removed your request for a third opinion as more than two editors are involved in this debate. There are other steps in the dispute resolution process which are appropriate for disputes involving more than two editors, I would suggest pursuing those if you still disagree. Seraphimblade 15:32, 31 December 2006 (UTC) Third opinionHi there, I saw your post on KhoiKhoi's talk page. With out diving into to great detail, please consider the following:
These are just three of the ideas that I have. I believe there is also a procedure for templates. Perhaps try some links at Help:templates. Hope this helps. Nina Odell 19:36, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
Let's talk about the templatesHi, I see that you have asked WP:3O and other administrator's talk page to discuss about the {{IndonesianPresidents}} and {{IndonesianVPs}} templates and my recent removals. Instead of gathering 3rd opinions, why don't we talk about it first? Honestly, I'm not against a template, I love templates, but they should give additional information, for instance, navigations (WP:NAV) or a concise summary (WP:IBT). Looking at the two templates you've created, I believe it is exactly equal with category pages or a list article (see List of Presidents of Indonesia). The articles have used {{Succession box}}, because they give ordering information who precede/suceed whom before/after the current article's subject. So, if you can convince me that the two templates give additional information, then I would be glad to put them back in the articles. For example, if you can put some kind of timeline bar in the template of how long somebody served as president/vice president, then it would be very very nice, because a reader can grab, for instance, that Soeharto has served 32 years, compared to Habibie for only 2 years. We can then eliminate the dull {{Succession box}}. Cheers. — Indon (reply) — 00:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Sorry Biruitorul, it's a bad time for me, my mistake. It's 2:14 am after the New Year's eve and I'm sooo sleepy. I will response your further comments later. Oh, Happy New Year!! — Indon (reply) — 01:15, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
Fourth opinionI agree with you; it is useful to have the template on the article, rather than linking to some list. I guess if a compromise hasn't been reached yet, you might try making a request for mediation... Khoikhoi 02:20, 2 January 2007 (UTC) BaltiaHi Biruitorul, You're welcome for the nomination. I've looked through the German version and added a few details to yours, but all in all it looks pretty good to me. --Carabinieri 13:08, 2 January 2007 (UTC) I think you are correct on both counts. --Scottandrewhutchins 14:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC) Comparison Baltic and Slavic LanguagesHere is the text you removed http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Balto-Slavic_languages&diff=98114864&oldid=98114541 please write down what you think you want to have worded differently- Thanks - Labbas 2 January 2007 SVG??Is it possible to upload SVG files, and have wiki automatically convert it on the fly to png? If so how do I do this, when I tried to upload an SVG it said it was not a recommended format, I did not see a way to force it to go. I noticed in the uploaded files area you have a couple that are .svg.png. Anyway, please resond on my user-talk page. Thanks. --Green-Dragon 06:39, 3 January 2007 (UTC) A delayed answerLa Mulţi Ani and sorry for the delay (I wasn't at home for much of this period, I used the net only sporadically, I was involved in other issues, and kept adding tiny bits to this answer as time permitted me). I'm sorry that the discussion may have had unpleasant and unintended consequences, but, for better or worse, I stand by my arguments about the topic itself. 1. it was not my intention to indicate that I was in any way responsible for I was merely saying that I will not be enjoying collaboration with a person who takes such a a stand (since wikipedia is supposed to be fun, and since I wanted to let people know precisely that, no matter what the quality of their other edits is, I would be having a hard time encouraging them to contribute more - Holocaust revisionism/Holocaust denial is not an opinion I would tend to condone). Note that I was not speaking for anybody else, and I did not intend it as a warning (it was merely an explanation of just how I find such discussions troubling and in bad taste). Allow me to point out that, in between "No one is indispensable" and "we need all the contributors we can get", you are contradicting yourself - the nature of this contradiction leads me to believe that my original comment was not as obscure as you depicted it. 2. I do not believe that Lupu was vouched for by the Conference, and I do not believe that his status prevents his conclusions from being flawed (I doubt that the Conference either controlled him or prevented him from publicizing his "finds"). The final stage of the dispute is here:
This evidences the scale of the action, and I believe that, if his status did not cover him against judicial complaint and almost universal criticism from his peers, it should not allow him to be used as "evidence" here. 3. I wholeheartedly reject the notion that Lupu's article is informative,or, for that matter, even logical. I would also like you to reconsider your verdict about criticism of Lupu's stand (Cornea asked for Lupu to face the implications of the law in place, as he interpreted it, and this not because it is the man's opinion, but because Lupu misuses an official capacity - and may possibly be misusing his status as an educator, which is indeed alarming). Also: while there may be no monopoly on historical truth, if there is but something very closely resembling it, then Corvin Lupu is almost as far away from it as possible. There is, clearly, a legitimacy in stating what the truth is, and I cannot think what would be more legitimate than the consensus of historians, a Commission invested with power by a state authority, various international committees of undeniable prestige, the vast majority of political forces in Romania, and several contemporary accounts (including, alas, Eichmann's comments). And, btw, one cannot ever say "x is wrong, therefore y is right", so much of the debate is not about how right Wiesel was, but about how wrong Corvin is - which is made painfully obvious by Lupu himself when he asks "how come as many as 400,000 were counted?", while he denies that any where ever killed unjustifiably and on purpose (which means that he is mixing two very different arguments, only one of which is yours). Almost all of Lupu's arguments are untenable, from what I have seen (granted, I have not read all). Aside from the euphemisms he uses to hide behind when talking about the Holocaust in general, and aside from his borrowing of generic sophistry from the Holocaust denial pool, not one point I've seen him make is anything but speculation,and, as stated, most of them are not even logical speculation. From what I have seen, he talks about how criticism should be over because Jewish banks are richer than ever, about how virtually all Jews (including, supposedly, rabbis and children) are responsible for resisting Romanian presence (which, ahem, came from a state that had withdrawn their citizenship, had exposed them to violent persecution, had allied itself to the Nazis, had come together with the German army, and had adopted anti-Semitic propaganda as the norm) and the rest were necessarily criminals, about how all Jews were "saved" from retaliations through deportation, about how Jews were expected to resign to their fate and trust the good intentions of Antonescu, about how ghettos are justified for keeping children and adults together etc. As we have apparently agreed before, all comments about "what the Jews did" post-1945 are (I would also wager to say that Lupu's insistence on using them is an extra indication that his argument is largely motivated by a frustration I don't share - and don't want to share). It seems also superfluous to expand on another obvious facts: merely being a communist does not mean others are allowed to kill you. With some likely exceptions, neither does resisting what is, for all purposes involved, a foreign invasion. Lupu would also like to have us believe that it is a Jewish initiative and scholarship which defines and insists on talking about the Holocaust (in Romania or elsewhere), when, in fact, the vast majority of historians not only agree with them, but also contribute to studying the matter (in Romania, where the topic is still sadly avoided, I can still cite Cioroianu, Pippidi, Oprea, and some others; it is imperative to note that, while the number of professionals directly involved in the debate is relatively small, the vast majority of professionals reject the very fabric of Lupu's arguments. This is, of course, an aside, because Lupu's implicit theory about the subjectivity of Jews is utter bullshit. Goma reproduces much of this flawed and ultimately insulting reasoning (btw, his questions are sterile, since he bases them on fallacies - answering Goma would be accepting his premises, the latter being a thing worth avoiding). As stated by all those whom Lupu contests, the Transnistria issue was very obscured, from the moment of its occurrence and until this very day. "Why did this happen?", you ask. Well:
In fact, the only pre-1989 mention I could find of a Transnistrian camp, namely Vapniarka, was in a Magazin Istoric of 1968 or 1970 (in relation to the defrost?), where it was dropped en passant as "one of places where our comrades were imprisoned" (the article was some Communist's memoir). It was never indicated that inmates were Jewish... Let me add: all mention of national prestige leaves me cold. Even if it would not, I would still have to say that it was gone in this instance the moment it was established that Romania took part in the Holocaust, not the moment in which added numbers came to trouble some of us. Lupu is spuriously "adding" to his point by delving into that issue, and there is nothing scientific to be found in there. Dahn 19:17, 5 January 2007 (UTC) An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Herman Baltia, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! ++Larbot - run by User:Lar - t/c 03:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC) Infobox PolandHello do you know where I find the Infobox Poland? I would like to add some parts like ISO-Code etc in the template. TX Fujicolor 10:52, 8 January 2007 (UTC) surse topalSurse despre Topal: http://www.e-democracy.md/comments/political/20021002/ http://www.alegeri.md/previous-elections/ Acestea sunt surse credibile şi cred că le puteţi pune pe pagina în limba engleză. Ce user aveţi în Wikipedia în limba română? Cu stimă. Cezarika1 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.124.113.47 (talk) 20:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC). Barnstar
Hi and thank you. On the Lupu topic: I certainly agree that all disagreements over debatable things (such as numbers) ought to be adequately presented, but Lupu's piece is merely unscientific and inflammatory. On the Băsescu issue, I'll answer on that page sometime soon (I'll present two proposals, and personally could accept either of them). About the Priests' Union: I remembered it from the link I found and forwarded to you back when we were discussing controversies involving the Church (you have archived it since, I think). I just looked over it at the time, but it seemed to be pretty substantial on this topic (there's also a bit about it in Cioroianu, but in a section I haven't looked through much - beyond what I used for Amicii URSS). Dahn 17:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
Comm. Rom.Hi, and thank you very much. On the issue at hand: both versions have problems (as far as I can tell, the original version was less problematic). You are obviously right about the template, and it needs a quicker seeing to. I cannot look into all of it now; in case you want to revert to the former version for now, I'll uphold your move (just tell me if you need me to, as I'm not watching that article). In case you don't, we could just let Anonimu enjoy himself until I pay that article a prolonged visit (and perhaps add some tags as to what the problems are). Dahn 19:56, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
Congress Poland datesI have only recently started reading up on that period of history, so I cannot answer the question with full certainity. My current knowledge indicates that there were no legal acts cancelling CP so in theory it existed till WWI, but in practice it was abandoned by Russian Empire after January Uprising, and replaced by the Vistulan Country. I am not exactly sure how this worked; when working on Namiestnik... article I discovered a part of it: for example, no new namiestniks were nominated, and governor-generals held the power instead (contrary to the constitution).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 02:20, 14 January 2007 (UTC) Henry James' humanismThe reason I reverted the category "American humanists" was that James didn't identify himself as a humanist, and would likely have rejected any philosophical label as irrelevant to his work and too confining for an imaginative artist. James' work includes things like The Altar of the Dead and Is There a Life After Death?, which would be very hard to fit into any non-trivial definition of humanism. And many of his ghost stories hardly show the kind of rational secularism typical of humanist thought. James was far too flexible in his imaginative work to be pigeonholed into a philosophical category. The closest he ever came to such a classification, to my knowledge, was when he told his brother William that he broadly agreed with WJ's pragmatism. But that might well have been more brotherly courtesy than a serious philosophical commitment. HJ was always an artist first, and he seems to have distrusted all philosophical movements, including humanism or any other ism. Also, the category "American humanists" seems like an overly broad group of people with little in common except American nationality. For these reasons, I believe the category is more misleading than illuminating when applied to James. Casey Abell 14:24, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
LatviaHi, I left you answer on my talk page -- Xil/talk 19:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC) An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Arvid Pardo, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 21:24, 17 January 2007 (UTC) Fair use rationale for Image:Alexandru Ivasiuc.jpgThanks for uploading Image:Alexandru Ivasiuc.jpg. The image description page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. If you have uploaded other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on those pages too. You can find a list of 'image' pages you have edited by clicking on the "my contributions" link (it is located at the very top of any Wikipedia page when you are logged in), and then selecting "Image" from the dropdown box. Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation will be deleted one week after they have been uploaded, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you. This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 06:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC) ReHi. You are entirely right, and I'm sorry. It was really difficult to tell who did what to that article. Dahn 07:45, 18 January 2007 (UTC) Romanian Students in 1956Thank you for translating my Romanian article on student protests in 1956. I must confess that I am surprised by the speed of your reaction. I was not aware that it would generate much interest but thought that the struggle of that generation should not be forgotten. I am grateful for your translation which makes this information available also to English speeking audiences. I took the liberty of changing the tags on the pictures. They are from police files and therefore not subject to copyright. I have made some corrections to the Romanian version. They are not essential, however there are some correction in the names of the students and to the Universities where they were attending courses. I will transfer these corrections to the English version. Thank you again. Afil 19:23, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Hm. Interesting. Unfortunately, a large part of that appears to disregard copyright legislation. But it's worth a look into. I'm guessing that, in theory, it's good material for the DYK, and for this cat ;). Dahn 21:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
Yes, I saw that. And, of course, you noted the distinction between Băsescu, the Private Citizen who summoned the private Parliament to address them as a private citizen, drawing conclusions from the Private Citizen's Commission Report in front of a lot of private citizens, all of them on holiday, and Băsescu, the President. Thanks for your edit, btw. Dahn 22:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC) I changed the initial picture of Mrs. Filotti because it did not fit with the article and actually it was taken at a different date than when the events took place. And at that time she was definitely not laughing, she had a nervous breakdown. As far as the other pictures are concernet they were taken from the issue of the România liberă which is mentioned in the bibliography. However the article shows clearly that they are from the police files. I am not sure if Dahn wants additional information on the pictures to be posted. As far as Mrs. Filotti's picture is concerned, I had the privilege of knowing her personally and took the pictures myself. So in this case there should be no doubts about the copyright. I would have liked to post more pictures of the students, but unfortunately I did not find any. I can only hope that if people read the article they will add some more. The special number of the Romania liberă I quoted also has some information on the students in Timişoara and Cluj. If you are interested I can send you a copy. I can scan the articles and I can post them on this site (I hope it works) or otherwise send them if this site does not accept them. Finalizing the corrections might take a day or two. There is a single issue on which I disagree with you, and that is the independence of Hawaii. But I don't think this can evolve into a dispute. And I understand your point: as a monarchist, it is to be expected that you support the restauration of monarchy in Hawaii. I am also a supporter of the restauration of the Brazilian empire. They would be far better off than with their present president. So keep me posted if you need the information. Afil 01:11, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
It's fun messaging with you. I'll also prepare my ammo (or ammunition if you prefer). As we have no more feud, and as you are in the UK and I am on the other shore of the Atlantic, I agree to a new alliance against our new common enemy. With a name like your's, how can we not be victorious. Afil 03:18, 19 January 2007 (UTC) '46Thanks. I have added the name of the legislature, and thanks for pointing that out (it was already alluded to in a Groza quote, but I didn't put two and two together). I couldn't tell you what the system was for sure: the only electoral info I gathered and added was about discarding the majority bonus. There are more photos in Dosarele Istoriei, but I still haven't managed to get to a scan (it's on my to do list). I didn't ad the percentages because, frankly, I could not compute them... (I know, I suck at Maths); I was about to, but then realized that I'm too prone to err. Intersting link, I'll hold on to it. Dahn 21:50, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
TangataWhenua.comKia ora - I noted that you proposed a entry I created for deletion due to non-notable advertising. I'm interested in finding out how to rectify this. The organisation I am discussing is significant because it provides alternative, web-based (eNewsletter) information and news coverage to an indigenous (Maori) audience. It provides an indigenous Maori perspective relevant to indigenous Maori issues. In New Zealand this is rare, in fact TangataWhenua.com is the only web-based media organisation that is doing this. In an environment that promotes Trusts and NGOs (as opposed to companies and partnerships) the development of an indigenous business framework in this context is to be commended, and is therefore note-worthy. What more can I do to ensure this entry continues? Looking forward to your commments (hopefully you have time) :) Atutahi 09:20, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
The '46 Map / Harta cu '46Hi, I'm working on boundaries now, and I hope today a new version would be ready. Many thanks for notice me the problem. Cheers, Cornel Ilie – my talk 14:08, 23 January 2007 (UTC) Thanks for your support
Greetings Xiner (talk, email) 02:00, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Blind revertingSorry, I missed that change. Guettarda 13:48, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Rulers.org isn't bad, it's just unreferenced. It's a good place to start looking, certainly. I remember when Hassanali became president. I don't recall if there was a period between Clarke leaving office and Hassanali being installed. It wasn't something that drew much attention, not like 2003 when they had to extend Robinson's term. There was controversy, coming close to a constitutional crisis, when Clarke made appointments on his own just before leaving office (the President is required to "consult" with the Prime Minister, but the constitution never said he had to listen to what the PM advised, although that had always been the assumption...the courts ruled in favour of the President). Anyway, I found a newspaper commentary which seems to be saying that Clarke made one of these appointments the day before Hassanali was installed, which would suggest he was still in office until the transition, but the sentance isn't very clear. What's more important is that no one in Trinidad seems to consider Williams as part of the sequence of Presidents, so I don't think we should. If we start counting Acting Presidents it gets really messy. I don't feel comfortable doing so. Guettarda 18:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC) Actually the President of the Senate is appointed Acting President whenever the President leaves the country. For example, Hassanali was in England in 1990 during the Jamaat al Muslimeen coup attempt, and Emmanuel Carter was acting President and declared the State of Emergency, etc. IIRC, Ganace Ramdial acted as President while Robinson was ill for an extended period. Every President of the Senate since 1976 has acted as President - Wahid Ali, Michael J. Williams, Emmanuel Carter, Ganace Ramdial and Linda Baboolal, probably at least once a year. Guettarda 13:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC) Re: A couple of points (state legislatures)re: User_talk:Yellowdesk#A couple of points (state_legislatures) You may want to check over Massachusetts_Senate_Delegations as another kind of example. -- Yellowdesk 15:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
Fryštát/FrysztatHello. Separate data aren't unfortunately available :(. The point is that after "coal fever" thousands of gastarbeiters from Bohemia and Slovakia arrived to the area and thus local Polish minority had dropped percentually. Assimilation, Czechization from 1920 to 1938 and Germanization during the war also contributed negatively to drop not only in percents but also in numbers. I am supposed to borrow a book covering the numbers of all Censuses from 1920 to 1991 in all municipalities. I have seen it already one time and it is quite interesting and sad. Also history of this small part of Europe is very complicated. Take the village of Hrčava as a nice example. Until 1920 it was a part of the Polish village of Jaworzynka. Exactly all citizens of Hrčava were Poles. After 1920 division of area between CS and PL, Hrčava fell to Czechoslovavkia and in 1921 CS Census a vast majority of citizens declared Czech nationality :). In 1939 Census almost all citizens (same people) declared Silesian nationality :) and many of them were sent to Wehrmacht later. Today almost all citizens of Hrčava declare Czech nationality but majority of them bear Polish surnames. :) - Darwinek 23:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello and thank you for your response. All three articles you created are of very high quality, I especially like that Soviet case and John T. Ford but I would suggest you all to nominate for DYK :). Btw I have expanded my Polish minority GA article of section concerning education, maybe you would like to check that. Currently I work on expanding somehow articles about towns and villages in Zaolzie and also on creating short articles about great persons of our region, still many many to go. I must also thank you for creating that Slovak navigational template, it is very fine, there was nothing to repair. - Darwinek 10:01, 5 February 2007 (UTC) 4 Devils editI think that was a good edit for my "4 Devils" stub. I have to admit that a bit of POV did creep in there---it's the most mourned lost film.....by me personally. That was a good one, Biruitorul, and written perfectly. Storyliner 18:48, 2 February 2007 (UTC) 4 Devils redirectYes, we should blank it and use "4 Devils" as a redirect, by all means. I didn't notice the other article until my little stub was up, of course. For a moment there, when you said that "Four Devils has existed since October," I thought the film had been found until I realized what you meant. I was mesmerized by the silent-to-sound transitional films with Gaynor at the huge Janet Gaynor retrospective at the Museum of Modern Art a few months ago. I emerged with the realization that Peter Bogdanovich is right that cinema's height wasn't 1939, as most people think, but that period from 1927 to 1929 when the silents (an utterly different art form, needless to say) reached their pinnacle. Storyliner 19:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC) TemplatesHello. I have made some changes to that Czechoslovak PMs template. Good work. Anyway, I am a student of political science and european studies, so I guess I will get back to that constitutions etc. sooner or later :). Thanks for adding all the extra elections. Do you know the months of the two 1836, 1870 and 1906 elections? Number 57 09:46, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
An article which you started, or significantly expanded, John T. Ford, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid64 22:42, 8 February 2007 (UTC) I glanced over this article, and there are a couple of things that could be done to improve it:
I'm going away for the weekend, but I'll give it a copyedit, etc., when I get back. Nice work so far, though. Carom 20:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC) Saparmurat NiyazovI fail to see the point of the template you just added. The information is already presented, better, by the succession template. KazakhPol 20:40, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Thank youHi, and thank you for your message. I have just now checked my mail (I had some internet problems, and still have no outgoing service). To be honest, I did consider leaving for good: what did it was being called a communist, being asked to apologize for things I never said, being told I was incoherent and losing contact with reality, as well as a danger to the wikipedia community (I took time to review my posts on the debated subjects, and I found nothing in there that would have justified any such argument). I also got very bitter when I noticed that some mudslinging aimed at me in the past had left deeper marks than I ever imagined (specifically, a noob trolled after being convinced by some established user that I was anti-Moldavian - you may know who that user is, and what he resorted to in order to provoke that perception; I hope you will see my point when I tell you could never apologize for having called him a troll on the basis of this). That was only part of the reason, though. I did make a conscious choice to stay away at least for a while, and it coincided with my leaving the city for a couple of days. In any case, if and when I would have left, I would have made sure to let you know, and to thank you for making this project interesting, fair, and, well, workable. Not to mention that your message (and another one I received from Khoikhoi) would have very likely persuaded me to return. I recently read what (a pre-Stalinist) Breton wrote to Tzara when he was asking him to join the Paris group: "it is our differences which unite us". Not only could this statement work as a template for wikipedian behavior, not only does it contrast with what I have to deal with before taking my break, but it is also the attitude I have attempted to instill in others and have always refreshingly found in your contributions and comments (which, as you probably know, obliges me to rank you among my favorite wikipedians). All in all, I could not stay put. So much more needed to be done, and I was itching to do it. So, yeah, I'm back in business - except that I'm taking my time returning to the disputed article (which I can only hope is kept cleanish). Cheers, Dahn 19:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC) DYK
--Majorly (o rly?) 20:34, 18 February 2007 (UTC) RequestHey Biruitorul, would you be able to copyedit the Bocicoiu Mare and Velykyy Bychkiv articles? They were translated from the Hungarian Wikipedia. Thanks, Khoikhoi 09:21, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
Three new ones: Valcău de Jos, Crasna, Sălaj, and Cavnic. Khoikhoi 00:27, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
Hello Biruitorul, Unfortunately, these photographs, on line for 9 months, and in particular extracted from a catalogue of the BNF (French National Library to which I had addressed a request for authorization without receiving an unspecified answer) or documents in my possession since a longtime, hadn’t, apparently, the licences Commons OK. It is all that I know… Cheers. --Airair 18:04, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
Turkmen PMs templateHi, thanks for the note. I like the idea of adding SN and GB with a note. I will try and create pages on the other PMs when I find the time. Regards, KazakhPol 01:30, 25 February 2007 (UTC) szia :)Hi Biru! Good to be back. I must say though, dear, are you deliberately needling me with that stuff about Orbán, Székelyföld and "Romanians, masters for the ages"? :) LOL Well, you have your deranged nationalist moments and I have mine. Freedom for Székelyföld, freedom for the Székely!! (see [3]--also rather stirring). Anyway, thanks for the other 56 stuff, I'll take a look at it in a little while. We proud Hungarians are just starting to work on an article about the 1848 Hungarian revolution (there wasn't one before!! can you believe that?!) with the same eventual goal as with the 56 one--FA, main page, etc. :) A Romanian perspective might be a valuable addition, if you're interested. Anyway, once again thanks for the welcome back. Have a good day...Biruiturul. :) K. Lásztocska 15:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC) Haven't the time to reply to all your points, but must mention the Székely. Why should they have to be loyal Romanians? They are not Romanians, they never chose to live in Romania, their language is not Romanian and their culture is not Romanian. It is nothing more than an accident of history that they live within the current borders of Romania, and it is well known that many of them wish for a certain degree of autonomy for their distinct people and culture. It's really no different from the issue of the independent Kurdistan you and I both favor. (also I seriously doubt their calls for autonomy are a plot by Budapest--Gyurcsi doesn't care one bit about the Hungarian minorities abroad--but that's a separate issue.) Oh, and please, Transylvania is a hugely significant part of Romanian AND Hungarian history/culture. We both have legitimate claims to it--only wish it could somehow belong to both countries (but yikes, wouldn't that be hard to work out the specifics...) I must say I do enjoy these friendly jousting matches of ours--you're officially my favorite deranged nationalist. :) Cheers! K. Lásztocska 19:32, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Actually, the main reason I choose NOT to enable wikimail was precisely to avoid the kind of "real derangement" you mention; I'm not worried that you would ever be cruel or obnoxious over email, but there are others here with whom I've gotten into some very unpleasant wars..... Oh, and don't hold your breath for Viki Orbán coming back into power..there's a big surge of support for Fidesz these days, in the aftermath of certain events of last year, but Orban himself is just making a bigger and bigger oaf of himself. No, methinks his days of glory are at an end--apologies to the Greater Romania Party. ;) ♠♣♥♦!! (Yes, I do get the urge to push those buttons...) PS are you still hoping to become an admin one of these days? K. Lásztocska 21:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I have to admit though, when the protests/riots/weird little revolution started last fall, the first thing that popped into my mind was "All RIGHT! Finally! Something fun and dramatic to get all worked into a frenzy about!" You see, my dear, human nature never changes, even Hungarian idealists and Romanian nationalists are the same. :) K. Lásztocska 22:01, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
I've thoroughly enjoyed our conversations today, I must say. Unfortunately I won't have any more spare time for additional random musings for a while again now; I'll still be around the wiki, just not so much time to chat aimlessly. Seeing as it is now after midnight where I am (and I have finally finished typing my paper for class tomorrow, barely avoided an all-nighter!) I need to get some sleep. ♠♣♥♦ and good night, see you around! :) K. Lásztocska 06:35, 26 February 2007 (UTC) BáthoryWhere did you find the date of his birth and death? --Candide, or Optimism 19:33, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
Some feedbackHi, and sorry for not responding sooner. I'm currently dead tired, and your last two posts deserve better longer answers than I can provide at this moment - I promise that I'll get back to you tomorrow with something more substantial. Cheers, Dahn 01:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC) Expulsion of Germans after World War IIDone. Should I have kept the {{sectstub}} template? Khoikhoi 10:15, 26 February 2007 (UTC) Carpathian Regions TemplatesHi there. Based on your suggestions last November (I am very sorry I got very busy in December), I have created a sketch for an new template. What do you think about it? Does it make sense? Does there exist already something for Carpathians? Is it worth spending time with this? :Dc76 21:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
ReplyingMan, I sure have been abusing your patience. In my defense: I had written a draft of an answer when my connection started acting up, so I needed to postpone it. Yet again, I apologize. I very much liked the proposals for policies: let your reign of terror begin! :) Seriously though, very constructive and logical stuff (if you're planning to open a discussion on them and you need my input/support at any given time, link it to me and I'll be there). Couldn't find an exact answer for the UTC stuff - works I use are not strictly related to the issues, and I would have to explore them in the texts (Cioroianu's doesn't even have an index, which has been a source for constant annoyance for me; other books only have one for persons). At first glance, I'm not sure if they were in power themselves after 1944/45, although a titular minister was probably a member of both the UTC and the PCR, if I remember correctly). Will have to look those details up, but only after I'm done with the PCR article, which I left hanging for now. Cool stuff on the 1907 thing - although the persistent reflexions about similarities with the present-day situation are rather idiotic, and bring to mind the fact that the PC is no longer in power...;). Anyways, I too have bumped into this (I would have to say it is deeply Marxist, but valuable). Incidentally, there is some stuff on Christian Rakovsky which could be explored further. You're right about March moving out of focus (doh, Dahn!), but we may still gat a hold of some symbolics by going with "still, we FAed it in 2007". I suppose your chronology on the N.Leg.State is correct (I myself have no memory for dates), so we should begin making corrections. Generally, I leave stubs to the bottom of my priority list, unless I'm sure I can (and want to) seriously expand them in the process (I still have the beginning of a draft version among my text documents). I also stayed away from the Antonescu article - perhaps, in the future, I will add and/or correct stuff in there, but for now I'm taking it easy in regard to that. Great idea on the squads; myself, I was preparing for an article on each, but this is by far better. I don't know of any others (in fact, I had not even heard of the name "Razbunatorii" until you mentioned it). Also good stuff on the 1940 massacre (I had contemplated the thought) - I have sources for this, including a list of all people killed, so I'll be watching over your shoulder in case you want to start it before I do. The main problem with using Levy is a paradox: we cannot use all of it. I have used it as a reference in Corneliu Coposu, but I fidget when I have to make limited references to a text that I cannot use in its entirety. This arguably gues for the article on Luci (I still have to get myself to consider using more from VT's book - either change the references to the Ro edition or check the latter against the English version index), and seems painfully obvious in the article on Pauker (where the text not available for reading bound to be equally important). Again, sorry for the delay and the vague answers. I promise I'll look closer into each of those subjects. Btw, if you are still planning contributions on the BOR: I found this Italian-language and Catholic summary, which could serve as both a reference and a template for what you may want to add. (I see you don't rate Italian as one of your languages, but, as Romanians, we all have some grasp of it; hope it's useful). Keep up the good work. Cheers, Dahn 23:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
"Left-wing deviationism"? I liked that: hopefully, I'll not have to formally admit my mistakes ;). Anyways. Great news on the Levy issue - he would make a great addition to our traveling circus. I hope you're holding on to those BOR links, though. In between the two of us, we have gathered a nice bibliography. Also great news on the map. My family has what could well be another, slightly newer, version of the same Atlas - it's called "Handatlas", but it's damn huge (a page is as big as a full grown man's torso). If we are talking about the same type of book, I have to bow in front of Olahus: he either spent a week scanning it or has a really big scanner (in either case, he must be very patient). We do have stuff on verification in the PCR article, though it is not as specific as you would want it (because such were the sources). I don't plan to use Stalinism pentru eternitate... in that article as well, at least not for now, since it would take just too much time to quote properly a book that massive on such a large topic. However, there is his English-language work I have used on Valter Roman (and, for now, advertised on the PCR article) - it could reveal more details on this (I notice it is very detailed). So, keep your fingers crossed. :) Interesting stuff on Pătrăşcanu. Could I perchance ask you to go through other things in that book about him specifically? (Perhaps look through the index.) We could expand the article significantly with yet another source (whoever of us is actually going to edit it in). This seems much easier than using the book for the article on Pauker (plus, it could help you in the future, because you would already have gathered details that you can later glue together). I've checked out the index, and most of it seems to gravitate around page 145 - if you could peak into other sections and add detail or back up presently-used citations, it would be peachy. I don't want to impose on you, just in case you have the time and will. Unfortunately, I cannot do much for the numbers just yet. I have more context for the 1937 elections, but not more numbers (I'm surprised you managed to find out that many...); congrats on that article, though, it came as a complete and pleasant surprise. For the deportations, I'm equally confused myself, and so are many historians; I don't have any source that would actually list the numbers nearby, but I do remember a Magazin Istoric which had a lengthy article on German deportations - will have to look it up, though. Dahn 00:07, 5 March 2007 (UTC) DYK
--Yomanganitalk 12:45, 28 February 2007 (UTC) Hall CaineThanks for your message about my Hall Caine article; it's good to get feedback. As you noticed, my references were very limited - to one person in fact, Allen's book and her article in the DNB, so it's good to be provided with more. I shall add sections on Caine's family and his religion - but not yet as I have nominated it for Good Article asssessment (mainly to get more feedback and advice) and for that it is supposed to be "stable". Best wishes. Peter I. Vardy 14:34, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
Populaţia BucureştilorSalut. Am observat şi eu acelaşi lucru. Multe articole conţin estimări mai mult sau mai puţin dubioase referitoare la diverşi indicatori statistici (populaţia fiind unul dintre ei). Ca regulă generală, dacă nu există o altă sursă oficială (de ex., pentru unele localităţi din judeţul Constanţa am găsit indicatori din 2004 sau chiar 2006 pe site-ul Consiliului Judeţean), mi se pare o idee bună să se utilizeze datele de la ultimul recensământ. Probabil nu ar fi rău să postăm ideea şi pe notice board for future reference şi nu în ultimul rând ca să evităm conflicte inutile. Regards, Mentatus 10:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
Historic moments
Monument to the Heroes of the Military Engineers' Army on DYK for 6 March 2007
Thank you for your contributions! — ERcheck (talk) 02:54, 6 March 2007 (UTC) Weeeelcome backHi again. Perhaps you can avenge my incompetence on Paul Goma (see the talk page for a proof of that). It could do with some serious editing - unfortunately, the computer wiz that I am, I could only add them there. It's in need of serious editing - plus, you are not, like me, "an anti-Romanian", so you won't have to deal with absurd questions. Dahn 03:56, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
(Not to interrupt this scintillating discussion, but "Whig history" refers to British, not American, Whigs.) Biruitorul 05:30, 8 March 2007 (UTC) Azerbaijani leadersAzerbaijan SSR was established in 1922 and lasted until 1991 without any periods of "non-existence." It didn't stop being a sovereign Soviet Socialist republic after joining the Transcaucasian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. That's why the latter was called "Federative." You can always check with the respective articles. Parishan 08:33, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
The Apprentice UK
Re: contest♠♣♥♦! My favorite deranged nationalist is back! :) I like the translation idea a bit better than the other, because it seems to me that if we're really going to do an all-out Romania vs. Hungary thing, full of patriotism and national pride (as it always should be), we should write on topics related to Romania and Hungary. :) Probably we can eventually do both, since I hope the contest will not be just a one-time thing. It's fun for us and good for the Wiki! Why not make it a tradition? One caveat though--I would prefer that the rules do NOT restrict the articles to translation only, we should be able to add our own material to what we translate from Ro- and Hu-Wiki. We should also, all in good fun and the spirit of healthy rivalry, offer some really good, slightly twisted and delightfully mischievous prizes to the winners. I was going to propose that the winners get full claim to Transylvania for a week, but once I thought about it some more I realized it doesn't really make sense (and let's leave it at that...). My latest thought is the losers have to all write rhapsodic odes to the winners' country and put them on their user pages for a few days, or a week, or until the next competition. :) Thoughts? The topics you suggested for translating are fine by me. K. Lásztocska 19:59, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
Oooh, those prizes are evil! :) I like it! How about five days for DYK? Three days seems a little skimpy. Or split the difference and go for four days? K. Lásztocska 15:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC) Starting on Friday or ending on Friday? BTW, my userpage is going to look rather different on Thursday, the 15th... :) K. Lásztocska 17:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC) Excellent. It's up on the magyar noticeboard. :) K. Lásztocska 00:52, 12 March 2007 (UTC) LOL no, the other thing that happened on March 15. :) Talpra magyar, hí a haza! K. Lásztocska 00:56, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Definitely. It's one of those things that could be absolutely terrific...or it could backfire stupendously. Let's just hope everyone remembers it's meant to be a FRIENDLY rivalry, and the evil prizes are just for fun. K. Lásztocska 01:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC) Very interesting article, but it certainly needs clearer paragraphing and headings. Would be a fine candidate for WP:DYK. -- Camptown 21:17, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
May I ask that you intervene on Valter Roman. Someone has reverted to a version vandalized by Icar. Dahn 14:10, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
About my revertsI focus on Vladimir Tismăneanu, Alexandru Nicolschi, Securitate and a few other articles, some of which are currently blocked featuring User:Dahn's version. I claim that this editor pushes his agenda against all other editors, by enlisting the help of unsuspecting editors like User:Khoikhoi or simply people willing to help in exchange for similar repayment. This is easy to see from the discussion and history pages. There has been plenty of discussion so far. I revert to what is consensus versions for everyone - except for Dahn, that is, who objects in bad faith to everything different from his versions. To give you just one example, he want to call Nicolschi a Romanian communist activist. This is misleading as noted by everyone, since Nicolschi was a NKVD colonel, later a general. NKVD colonel is evidently more significant than "Romanian activist". It is as if he wanted to call all people of dubious reputation "Romanians", which is misleading and unfair. (Icar 13:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC))
Lupeni strikeSalut. După părerea mea, cred că ar trebui menţinate toate sursele şi în articolul despre Valea Jiului. Din păcate nu am nici o sursă în bibliotecă referitoare la greva din Lupeni :( Ţin minte că am citit un articol în "Magazin istoric" parcă în care se spunea că greva a fost provocată de NKVD şi Comintern (după modelul celei de la Tatar-bunar, vezi şi articolul din Ziua: http://www.ziua.net/display.php?data=1999-08-08&id=29346&ziua=38a9daf3f06b30b8731a310e1ab51ffc). Regards, Mentatus 14:05, 12 March 2007 (UTC) PS Adresarea cu "Dumneavoastră" mă face să mă simt prea bătrân :) (I'm in my early 30's). Did you know
--howcheng {chat} 06:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC) Alexander DuchnovičIf you did not know Alexander Duchnovič considered himself as a Rusyn, he was writting about it (Ia rusyn byl, ies'm i budu (I Was, Am, and Will Be a Rusyn). The statement that he was Ukrainian was inveted by Soviet comunists to explain how Subcarpathian Ruthenia becommed part of Soviet Union after WW2. Conqueror100 Striking ideasFirst of all, allow me thank you for your support. I meant to write this earlier, but I was simply exhausted after dealing with all the bs (btw, someone is desperately wanting to fly up to the Sun, a fact that, I hope, can only lead to tearing feathers). I guess I should have picked up on evidence of Bonapartism when Hizkiah or whatever "his name" was lectured me on his years-long experience as a wikipedian, despite having his account created in December... Also, no sweat on the Tâmpa issue - btw, much of it can be sourced from here. As for your main topic: Exquisite Idea. I was pondering it back in the day when I was the only one who cared about such topics, but it seemed that I was reaching to high at that moment. Now we are just about ready to look into it closer. There are a few issues I would amend, though:
Stuff that I would add to your overview (not a complete review, just what I can think of right now), and stuff that we would need to look into:
Well, I'd say we've got a long way to go, but it's feasible. Oh, some pictures are available (though I'm guessing you've seen them). My collection of Magazin Istoric has an amazing number of PD socialist kitsch from the early labor movement (like the goddess of Liberty handing down a copy of Das Kapital to a bearded worker). I've got to get me a scanner. Dahn 22:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, I say we put the Great Depression subarticle on hold (I don't object to it, but I want to see it fit in the overall history, and us concentrating on these things one at a time - or to let the format guide us, if you will). It is also a headache, because we have hundreds of articles to link it to, and we'd best start at some other point and move on from there - consolidation of the Greater Romania and Kingdom articles as a priority in this respect. On the main topic: I'll finish some stuff myself, and then I'll look into this a little bit more. Again, wonderful idea. Dahn 23:16, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
DYK
Mulţumesc --BigHaz - Schreit mich an 22:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC) Tarnaveni, changesI will write in romanian it's about small changes in that article where he put a text that has nothing to do with that context: Ai adaugat o fraza stearsa pentru care de câtva vreme mă tot lupt să o şterg. În primu rând contextul în care îi introdusă îi aiurea înainte era vorba de atestarea documentară a localităţii din 1276 după care se zice de o nouă perioadă în care apare pomenită localitatea în 1502, iar tu introduci textu despre Trianon din 1918 între. În plus că textul îi tendenţios, da se pare că ţie nu îţi pare, deşi dacă te uiţi la istoria modificarilor chiar şi maghiarii îs de aceaşi parere. O să reşterg fraza şi sper să înţelegi şi tu motivul. Spor la treabă şi scris! Olario 09:11, 16 March 2007 (UTC) contestI just nominated the Hungarians' article for DYK. :) Next time we do this, I think we should pick similar topics to each other. (As soon as we magyarok started arguing about historical interpretations and rightful kings, I immediately thought "damn those crafty Romanians, they gave us a controversial article on purpose! They know us too well!" LOL) Anyway, what do you know about folk music? We don't have a satisfactory article on Hungarian folk music and I doubt there is one on Romanian folk music.....then afterwards we can all collaborate on Music of Transylvania. :))) K. Lásztocska 14:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Ahh, I knew I could count on Romanian generosity. :) *wink*....K. Lásztocska 17:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC) Next time let's use GMT on the 24-hour system for deadlines, to avoid confusions such as this exact one...K. Lásztocska 17:56, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Erm, never mind....they axed us...K. Lásztocska 18:08, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
Contests just between you and Alensha? Sure, go to it. Exclude the stupid little külföldi. I'm sorry if I'm a little grumpy right now but I'm having a terrible time in my language studies right now (i.e. I'm making absolutely zero progress) and every time I'm reminded that I cannot speak the language of the country that my heart burns for, I feel pretty rotten. (me and Franz Liszt...the poor guy.) For future contests, actually, it might be better to have the focus be on article creation, rather than strict translation. The ends justifying the means and all that good stuff--it shouldn't really matter how the article gets on EnWiki, just that it does. I'd be happy to work on Kodály, whether for a contest or not. Let me know if you like my folk music idea, because if it's not going to be a contest, I'll probably just start the article on my own. I could save it for a contest if you want. Anyway, now we just have to wait and see: who gets to watch the other team write something embarrassing on their user pages?! K. Lásztocska 21:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
OK, so maybe a few of the hooligans were actual Arrow Crossers, but I'm 100% sure that most of them were just your basic skinhead thugs and football hooligans--their leader is a guy called "Tomcat", for heaven's sake. K. Lásztocska 22:41, 17 March 2007 (UTC) We both lost the contest, our noms are expired. :( K. Lásztocska 18:31, 18 March 2007 (UTC) LOL, nice work with the tiny yellow message. :) That is a good site! Looks like the English version is still under construction but between the lot of us we could mine the magyar version pretty thoroughly. I agree that our coverage of that period is pretty weak--I'm planning to focus more on 1848 for a while though. Actually I'm taking off for a few days, or at least will be contributing in reduced capacity, because I've somehow gotten into several very unpleasant exchanges over the last few days and I need a short break to get some perspective. (If I stick around and fight, I'll likely just blow my top and get blocked.) So szia later, ♠♣♥♦, be back soon. :) K. Lásztocska 19:19, 18 March 2007 (UTC) Image tagging for Image:Tampa2.jpgThanks for uploading Image:Tampa2.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well. For more information on using images, see the following pages: This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. 21:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC) Tampa, BrasovSources should be properly labelled, that is, not under an "External links" header etc. WP:DYK is fairly tough about that... Camptown 12:39, 18 March 2007 (UTC) Révai & FarkasHi, I translated those two communists from huwiki. Could you please add a pronunciation note to Nicolae Labiş' name? I've read one of his poems a few weeks ago, the one about the deer, and really liked it. I'm proud that he and me have the same birthday :) – Alensha talk 14:33, 18 March 2007 (UTC) Well, the picture emerges on several Russian websites, such as the liberal SPS Party. I think the quarrel has more to do with the "combatants" Sigh... --Camptown 22:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
Hi! Sorry for being so silent, but I have had a lot to do and I kind of just did what you asked without saying a word about it to you or anyone else. Fortunately you noticed the article on the Trial of the 149 yourself. Now I have done also the article on the insurgency of 1924, but it needs a lot of editing as I did it fairly quickly and I make a lot of mistakes in articles. So feel free to edit and correct my text any way you consider necessary. I noticed that Andres had also started to work on this article, so I tried to keep most of his text you had already edited and just to add what I had done. Best regards, Toomas 09:20, 19 March 2007 (UTC) DYK
--ALoan (Talk) 11:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Yes, I already noticed and have modified my userpage accordingly. I'm not actually gone, just taking it easy for a while. K. Lásztocska 16:19, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Haha, alright, Béla Lugosi, have your fun, you get to gloat for a week. Actually, although I'm none too fond of the exact way Trianon turned out and the nasty dealings leading up to it, I'm not really much of an irredentist--mind you, I wouldn't outright refuse a little sliver of south Slovakia and some of the more Hungarian parts of Erdély if they were offered on a golden platter, but I'm not losing sleep over it or anything. :) You already know I want some sort of autonomy for the Székely, but beyond that I think messing with the current borders would be WAY too much trouble for any potential gain. And of course I support the right of the Slovaks and whoever to have their own countries, I'm a liberal nationalist by philosophy anyway, it goes with the, erm, territory. :) They just did a terribly sloppy job of drawing the borders! K. Lásztocska 22:46, 19 March 2007 (UTC) Oh believe me, though I'm not especially religious, I have plenty of cheesy blood-and-soil, mystical, romantic, generally over-the-top 19th-century symphonic poem, Nemzeti dal, sword-of-Attila and turul-bird etc. kind of patriotic fervor as well. :) It's fun, and I've always had perhaps too much fondness for the various banners and trappings of overblown patriotism--no matter how liberal, pacifist and anti-fascist I may be, God knows I can't help but thrill at the sight of a regiment of hussars in full dress uniform riding ceremonially by, I get tears in my eyes when writing/reading about 1956 and the early days of 1848, I've always been big on national holidays, ceremonial commemorations, etc., I could go on and on but I'm sure you get the point. :) Last Thursday (March 15) I leaped out of bed much earlier than I can usually muster and proceeded to fervently recite the Nemzeti dal from the top of the stairs (by which I accomplished nothing but scaring the bejesus out of my cat.) So you and I may have more in common than we think, except the obvious glaring difference.... ;) As for reading something in Romanian--I can already decipher some things in Romanian, given its similarity to Latin and French (neither of which I actually know but I've sort of absorbed them through the ambient culture.) I'll take a look at that article later and see if I can make heads or tails of it....K. Lásztocska 03:09, 20 March 2007 (UTC) TranslationSorry, I do not have time now to translate article about Dositej Obradović, so perhaps you should ask somebody else. I planed to post demographics data into all articles about municipalities in former Yugoslavia, and until I finish this, I would not have much time for other things. PANONIAN (talk) 23:23, 19 March 2007 (UTC) CHICOTW
TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio) 00:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC) Ulianov to KobaHey, man. I am tardy as usual, but I finally started something. Btw, I lapsed out of the contest: did we win? As a contributor to the article, I should be wearing the "Have your crappy Transylvania" tag - far from me to evade my commitments. Anyways, I see ours was up for DYK (congrats, btw), but, if theirs wasn't, were is their tag? (I'm kidding: though I'd like to know what happened, I will not be upset if they ought to but don't want to do it.) Dahn 02:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Great work on Labiş - I'll work on it from my side some time in the following days. Btw, this was a dilemma for me: most sources will indicate that he was a communist by convictions, and that he was on the left wing of opponents to the regime. I think he is due for inclusion in both the communists category and list (although I don't think he ever did join the party; he was nonetheless a rather prominent member of the UTC, and you may want to include him among the notable members in the UTC article). VT has some interesting insight on this. Anyways, something tells me you should expect someone else to come visit bearing tags... See you tomorrow. Dahn 03:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
The funniest thing is that I thought you emailed Cioroianu to ask him how he feels about Tăriceanu replacing Ungureanu :) - it only later dawned on me what you meant. (Btw, did you check out his site? It is rather amusing - all empty but for the weird personality cult.) Unfortunately, I haven't read Petreu, but I believe you when you say the book is good. About the "relations": that style of articles seems like overkill to me, but I could live with and contribute to a series; nevertheless, at this stage in Romanian coverage they seem like luxury (plus, you know how much I hate stubs...). An issue related to the Cabinet: should the PM/FM infoboxes list, under "political party", all parties the person was a member of, or just the one he belonged to while in office? (I would say "he or she", but we both know that is yet to happen...) Rather than use the article on Malaxa, I would use the sources it uses (it anyway does seem to have been partly copy-pasted). But, yeah, it's something. Dahn 23:32, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
Well, I see rowiki is still in use as a propaganda tool... Anyway, I just created Grigore Iunian, and bumped into some detail on the Great Depression we may find useful later. Dahn 20:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC) LupescuI wondered if you might take a look at my remarks at Talk:Magda Lupescu#POV Footnotes and see if you have anything to say on the topic. - Jmabel | Talk 07:59, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
"Liberation" of RomaniaDa, văd că vor să ne "elibereze" şi pe Wikipedia (vezi şi edit-ul ăsta: [7]). Momentan nu prea am f. mult timp, o să încerc să mă pun în temă şi să văd cum pot să ajut. Mulţumesc pentru mesaj, Mentatus 12:02, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Acum Petri Krohn face conexiuni provocatoare între 25 octombrie 1944 şi Soviet occupation of Romania, pe care o descrie ca "liberation": [8]. Atac pe multiple fronturi... Mentatus 07:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
Providing assistance from beyond (wink, wink)Hi. I meant to answer earlier, but did not have as much time time as I wanted to, and simply wondered aimlessly on wiki when I did have time. On the peasantry issue: while it is hard not to mention at least some peasant revolts (due to their impact on organized labor), I think it would be a stretch to extend the article to them. Instead, I propose we focus on informing on the generic issues of the peasantry in three articles: the one on 1907, the one on Greater Romania, and a future one on Poporanism (I suppose more recent stuff can fit into "Economy of Romania" and its subordinates). Oh, btw: my emphasis on reliable sources in relation to the Soviet occupation article was not aimed at either you or Turgidson, but some guys I had to deal with on related issues (well, you know...); hopefully, one will not have to deal with Gomaisms and Tricolorul. Now, since a certain someone is watching my every move, this may have sown the seed for the usual type of disruption on that page as well... Dahn 21:00, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
I've noticed you invited a lot of people to the discussion. However some of them previously expressed some anti-russian sentiments while others are openly anti-communist (thus anti-sovietic). Don't you think you should invite some Russians too (as Russia received the Soviet Union's seat in the UN) ? They could present the Soviet POV. Anonimu 20:14, 27 March 2007 (UTC) You've just attacked the entire Russian nation. Should i mention this to them when i invite them to the discussion?Anonimu 20:19, 27 March 2007 (UTC) Yeah, the absolutist russia exploiting its peasants (better said serfs) and the few proletarians in its almost non-existent industry, not to mention non-ethnic russians... Anonimu 20:32, 27 March 2007 (UTC) DYK
--Carabinieri 23:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC) Murat YusufOK, n-am ştiut de regula asta. Am învăţat ceva nou :) Am adus numele la forma iniţială. Mentatus 06:40, 30 March 2007 (UTC) Tezele din iulie
Hey, no prob (and I wouldn't call it "clean up" - btw, you probably saw I took some sort of an issue with using "ibid", because it strikes as counter-productive... and counter-revolutionary). Sorry for not getting back to you on the other issues: I have pressing stuff to do in real life and I can only handle the bare minimum (though I couldn't prevent myself from producing the one article - mainly because there was no Romania-related DYK entry under preparation at the time). More on that to follow tomorrow. The other issue is best clarified if you check your talk page history:
.it's not sophistry, it's the truth. Anonimu 21:50, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
(*sigh*. this is why I don't trust communists...) K. Lásztocska 21:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
so i was right after all about what? K. Lásztocska 22:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC) about everything you wish. ...to quote some advice that István gave me a few days back when I was in a rotten mood. :) I've noticed your fights with Anonimu, just wanted to say I support you 99% (I differ somewhat on the religious issues but otherwise I agree completely.) Don't let it get you down, my friend! :) K. Lásztocska 21:22, 31 March 2007 (UTC) groupie luv? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonimu (talk • contribs)
K. Lásztocska 21:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC) Hmm, well maybe István got it from you, I dunno. On another topic, WHAT?! You SUPPORTED Niyazov?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! K. Lásztocska 22:10, 31 March 2007 (UTC) Yeah, fun from a very safe distance, Mr. Hurray-the-ghost-of-Szalasi-is-rioting-in-Budapest. You have some pretty strange political views, I must say. That said, the decree banning lip-synching WAS pretty classic...K. Lásztocska 23:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC) Türkmenisztan, etc.Yeah, I was afraid I was getting carried away with the weekly updates in the History section. :) A good article is a new idea. I kind of like Turkey, historical grievances and their own societal/governmental problems aside. They have a neat language, a rich cultural heritage (including some awesome music and poetry), Istanbul is gorgeous, etc. Not sure what to think of a potential EU joining, and I do support some sort of independent Kurdistan, but I for one much prefer a secular government to a theocracy (especially of the repressive "Islamist" variety.) "Render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, render unto God what is God's," and all that. Is it officially April Fools Day on-wiki yet? K. Lásztocska 00:40, 1 April 2007 (UTC) Good, my first prank has already been implemented. Unfortunately I think only Alensha will get the joke, and I haven't seen her lately. As for the Curse of Turan: looks pretty bogus to me, I'm pretty sure we were all just random pagans back then, with perhaps the odd Khazar Jew. But it would have been such a tiny minority...and I seriously doubt there were many Magyar Muslims back then. K. Lásztocska 00:58, 1 April 2007 (UTC) A penguin in charge of the Norwegian army! Classic beyond classic! How's my userpage btw, is it funny to a non-Szegedi?K. Lásztocska 01:04, 1 April 2007 (UTC) Yeah, I was afraid of that. My latest effort is on J.S. Bach, he's learned a new instrument...K. Lásztocska 01:14, 1 April 2007 (UTC) I've never vandalized anything before--it feels strange. :) I also think I probably used the wrong license tag, so if I get banned, farewell...but not before a few more jokes.K. Lásztocska 01:17, 1 April 2007 (UTC) 2 more...this is devilishly fun. K. Lásztocska 01:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC) Oh yeah? Who? K. Lásztocska 01:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC) Aaah, bring 'em on. Aren't you going to join the fun? (April fooling, I mean?) You could just do something stupid to your userpage like I did if you don't want to run the risk of getting in trouble. :) K. Lásztocska 02:48, 1 April 2007 (UTC) Brilliant! That's too good to revert, I'll leave that up to Anonimu, who I will then accuse of being anti-April Fool-ist. :) It's rather late in my time zone so I'm logging off for now. More jokes tomorrow. :) K. Lásztocska 03:09, 1 April 2007 (UTC) hey look, apparently I'm your "groupie" now. [9]. :-) K. Lásztocska 21:18, 1 April 2007 (UTC) Cool, what's it look like? :) K. Lásztocska 21:23, 1 April 2007 (UTC) You forgot the inscriptions "religious freak" and "holocaust denier". You've been having a terrible few days here, haven't you, being attacked from all sides. :( Now that they've started mocking you for your religion I'm getting pretty pissed off--I generally don't agree with you about religious matters (I'm more of a Unitarian than anything else), but I completely respect your faith and won't think any less of you for it. Hmm. You and I should form the Transylvanian Cabal (secret sign: "♠♣♥♦") and make official T-shirts so everyone, even in the real world, knows to always assume the worst about us. :( K. Lásztocska 21:33, 1 April 2007 (UTC) ♣♥♦♥ is going to be fun indeed. You don't mind the attacks? Wow, you are stronger than I am. I get upset even when I'm not the one being attacked, as you can see from my mood now! I have to log off now but best of luck dealing with these messes. Also, have a wonderful Holy Week (and happy Easter a week in advance.) :) K. Lásztocska 21:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC) ReferendumsYes, good idea. We could add an entire section on referendums in your elections template, though actually filling in the gaps may take a while. On the other issue: I could not respect you less for having the opinion, even though I could never respect the said opinion. I have to say: I'm sorry that the right wing in Romania provides such lousy reference points, because you seem to have much more compelling and interesting views than any of them (though I still could not agree with them). I guess your conservatism obliges you to look into the past for comparison (I first noticed this when we were both looking at the Iron Guard's quasi-socialist etatism, and I remembered you said you were into anarcho-capitalism). Don't get me wrong, I don't hold this against you: in fact, it is a source for fascination. The good thing about being on the left, where I stand, is that you don't have to refer to any particular tradition :). Dahn 20:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, good points. Certainly, there is Stelescu's testimony (alongside some other notions Argetoianu and Călinescu liked to entertain about the man). His associations with the said charlatans and some others (shall we include Manoilescu here?) did make him "uns cu toate alifiile". But my comment was less about how little of a saint he was, compared to how far beyond the Liberal (read: Jacobin) pale his ideas were. Dahn 21:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Oh, okay. Yes, the Mihai thing was a lapse (it is probably because I remembered someone proposed him for sainthood, and, not taking an interest into current BOR issues, it just stuck with me. Or maybe it was Gigi's imagery that got me all worked up :). So, what's the deal, then? You don't make it if you kill people with your own hand during peacetime? It strikes me as rather contrived, kinda like the Catholic Church burning people at the stake because Augustine or whomever said the Church should not have blood on its hands (although this story may be Protestant propaganda that was cherished by the Marxists). Dahn 22:02, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
There is just so much that article needs, and so much work to be done in getting us there... I guess I was largely responsible for the final version of that sentence: someone introduced as a "fact" that he was killed by the Comintern, and I reacted a bit rashly at the time. I know there is much speculation about this issue (there are also other such diversions, including the rowiki theory that the Rebellion was caused by Soviet agents...). I would simply remove all that fragment, and revisit the entire article with sources when i can finally feel up for it. Dahn 23:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
I really wish you would ponder the "templates for cabinets" idea I had. Consider this: you add the template to all ministers present in x cabinet (which is roughly equivalent to the French model, but more useful); doing this establishes easy navigation and spears us the trouble we would have with the Australian model (where the principles of navigation would instruct us to carefully read the text and add the links at their exact place, while here we can just add a template to the bottom of the list). We would also avoid the annoyance of content forking and the infuriating tendency of creating new pages for each hopelessly little topic that is so cherished by some contributors. Also, I think I have seen it done before some place, so we would not be exactly frowned upon for unorthodoxy. What say you? Dahn 21:14, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
On dates: I suggest we use that for clear re-arrangements during a single term (see the first cabinet of Gheorghe Tătărescu being split into four by Rompres); otherwise, there is really little reason to use it. On cabinet articles: no matter where we go with this, I think that having articles on cabinets is a bad idea, and the only thing it could produce is tired editors (9 out of 10, the reader wanting info on a cabinet will go through the PM articles, which can easily fill all things relevant, with additional details in articles on ministers and various events; it seems to me that a lot of things on German wiki are, in fact, headaches and the editors' failure to actually look before they leap or to generate policies). Between the article on the man, the article on the 1946 elections, the article on Communist Romania, the article on the Ploughmen's Front, what independent topic could really be developed in the article on the Groza government? Unless we start actually providing minutes of their meetings, which I hope we won't. Feel free to add all you consider necessary to those templates I'm playing with, and looking forward to any suggestion (for example, i was arguably imaginative with colors, so if you find more concrete examples of the ones in use or just think others would look better, just change them). Indeed, this is gonna be an exciting project. Dahn 01:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
Yes, that vague period will always pose problems - they could be sorted if we add a "prehistory" section to the Conservative Party article, given that the group was basically the same, albeit not registered (at a time when no party was registered). But this is yet another article I am going to handle when I feel I can pile drive into it, not before (so many empty spaces, so little willpower... eh, I am after all Romanian). Dahn 20:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC) Btw, I guess I'm being creative with this one, but how do you feel about creating additional categories of the "Ministers of the Victor Ciorbea cabinet" in the future? Will we be heading for CfDs, or is tis reasonable? Dahn 20:28, 4 April 2007 (UTC) ReligionAre you a religious freak? --Thus Spake Anittas 20:49, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
The New Central Asia project pageHi I revised (a bit radically) the navigation system of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Central Asia. The old page was a mess. You are a member of the project, I would appreciate if you would compare with the old page and give a feedback on the talk page. Thanks. cs 22:06, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
DYK nom on July ThesesHello, Thanks for creating article on July Theses. Just for your information, I have nominated a DYK on this article, by having the following hook.
Thanks, - KNM Talk 03:36, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Fântâna AlbăHmm. While I agree with you, I think it would be better if you went to WP:RM this time. From the looks of the talk page, there appears to be a great deal of discussion about it, so I'm not sure if the page move would be controversial or not. I think a poll would be the best option (similar to the one at Talk:Arvandrud/Shatt al-Arab). Khoikhoi 07:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC) Poate te ajuta aceasta harta topografica din preajma Primului Razboi Mondial. Localitatea se afla la sud de paralela 48° (in partea de vest a hartii) si este trecuta cu denumirea de "Fontina Alba". http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/44-48.jpg Harta poate fi vizionata doar in marimea originala. Numai bine! --Olahus 20:47, 20 May 2007 (UTC) Bulgarians of RomaniaHi, yes, I know about the other groups of Bulgarians in Romania: the heavily assimilated Eastern Orthodox in Wallachia and the remainder of the Northern Dobrujan population. There was also a Bulgarian Roman Catholic population of Paulician origin (like most Banat Bulgarians) in Ilfov, in Popeşti-Leordeni and Cioplea, but most of it probably moved to Bulgaria, at least I know of some settlement in Dragomirovo, Veliko Tarnovo Province. The rest must have been assimilated, judging by the ethnicity and religion data in Popeşti-Leordeni#Demographics ;) Indeed, Bulgarians in Romania would be a good summary article. We could also include the urban emigration in the 19th century, the so-called hashove, who included many revolutionaries and authors, e.g. Hristo Botev. Unfortunately, although I know of some books that would make great sources, I don't think they're easily obtainable. Also, modern information on the Wallachian and Northern Dobrujan Bulgarians is generally scarce, unlike the extensive studies on the Banat Bulgarians :( Here's one rather short article I could dig up — don't be scared by the publisher, the author is generally a pretty credible guy and an established historian. P.S. Those "Croats" in 1930 may well be mostly Krashovani, a group of similar descent as the Banat Bulgarians, originating on the other bank of the Timok, who Bulgarian and some foreign researchers claim are Croatized Bulgarians, a view shared by the Banat Bulgarian intellectuals in the 1930s at least. Another thing, could you briefly retell what that article about the village says? I'm pretty curious :) Todor→Bozhinov 11:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC) Don't recallRemove it for now if you like. - Francis Tyers · 17:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC) Bun venitMulţumesc Biruitorule, e bine să ştiu că sunt aşa de mulţi români. Nu aş fi crezut că sunt aşa de mulţi. --Grigoras.Iliescu 08:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC) My pleasureA duck is a duck :) Do you have a central board discussion and polls get reported to? I do note interesting ones at WP:PWNB, feel free to take a look - there are some interesting deletions still open currently and some other ongoing discussions, several of them involving our common colleagues and topics, too.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 12:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
LOL, Anonimu probably thinks I'm your sockpuppet now. :) K. Lásztocska 22:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC) Yeah, sorry about that. :) U know I'm ur loyal groupie 4 EVER & EVER!!!! :) K. Lásztocska 22:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC) Now I'm going to be up all night trying to figure out what that cryptic inscription means--kind of reminds me of this stuff. K. Lásztocska 03:05, 7 April 2007 (UTC) Or you could just tell me--you know I like to keep my real life and wiki life separate, and e-mail is a disturbingly fluid bridge between the two. K. Lásztocska 03:15, 7 April 2007 (UTC) "added dimension"? are you really a dangerous radical or something?! K. Lásztocska 03:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC) I'm sorry, that was a ridiculous question. *cringe*. K. Lásztocska 03:22, 7 April 2007 (UTC) Well, that'll be fun to watch. :) Just don't hurt the Székely. K. Lásztocska 03:28, 7 April 2007 (UTC) replied Once more, wrapping things up. :) Glad it's not as dire as my overactive imagination feared... :) K. Lásztocska 19:43, 7 April 2007 (UTC) DYK
--ALoan (Talk) 14:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC) Q:Hi. Quick question: should we link the "Religion and Education Ministry" from back in the day to the Education Ministry? Also: I have not been presented with one valid reason as to why pages for ministries and lists of ministers should be separated, especially since the former look like they were made up to be puny stubs, and especially since people cannot decide whether to link to the Ministry or the List in related pages; my suggestion is to merge the two sets of articles with their respective counterparts. I'm also saying this because we now have material for many other lists, and, quite frankly, I think we should add them to the articles. How do you feel about these issues? Oh, btw, we should perhaps add party affiliation to the lists. Dahn 02:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Invitation to WikiProject
Hi Biruitorul, why should this one be PD? --Flominator 09:28, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
New reHi. No, I cannot actually think of any reason (I just translated it ad hoc, and, yes, your version does sound better). It is, however, pretty demanding to change, and I'm currently looking into something else entirely. In case you want to do the changes before I revisit the templates, I would appreciate it: after I dealt with the Năstase template and its complications, and had to do it twice (an edit conflict that engendered an error, don't ask), all that script kinda dancing in front of my eyes, so I'll be taking my time. And, of course, thanks for all the help. Dahn 19:37, 9 April 2007 (UTC) Hristos a înviat!Indeed! Health, peace, love! Mulţumec Biruitorul! NikoSilver 11:55, 10 April 2007 (UTC) Hungarian Names in TransylvaniaI definitely do not want a revert war, but like I said: Hungarian names and other minority names ARE official in all communes and municipalities in Romania, where the minority represents 20% or more of the population, Hungarian names are in parentheses. I made the template myself as there are very few for Romania, I thought this would be a good thing, not something that is edited all the time, especially using parentheses! DávidSch 16:56, 10 April 2007 (CET) Lucjan Dobroszycki(You wrote)
Take Ionescu... please, take IonescuHi. Sorry for the delay, but stuff kept piling up. Your questions about Marina are entirely justified, and the final version of the article should reflect both views (though, well, not through Rost). However, I know next to nothing about the man - this is the sort of article were I could intervene only through the sheer serendipity of bumping into sources. If I had to make my own guess, I think he was both a survivor and a pal, though one would have to question why he allowed his relations to award him the position, but not to avert persecution of his subordinates - you may say that persecution was much reduced in comparison to what happened to all the other churches and religions, but, IMO, that only adds to it ("capul plecat, sabia nu-l taie"). I mean, I do understand that the Orthodox Churches have "render onto Caesar" at their doctrine's core, but, as an outsider, I have to wonder if that attitude ever led to something good. (Well, given that I was editing an article about a socialist while everyone was at Mass, you are perfectly entitled to view my opinion on this issue as really, really irrelevant.:D) On the whatshisname from Arad issue, I did a quick google check, and I suppose we could write a two-paragraph article on the man. But I'm willing to bet we won't. In any case, I agree his notability is borderline, but I'm not sure if it is AfD material. If you have the time and will, could you please review my Take Ionescu? I'm pretty sure some rewording is in order, but I ran out of ideas trying to make the text non-repetitive, and some first-hand translations could be improved upon. So, if you have any questions about the latter, do voice them (I'll provide the original texts where they should prove to be needed). Btw, the pun I used in the title probably calls for an IPA version of his name in the article - but I cannot work with IPA (I understand it, but I'm no good at using it). Dahn 21:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi, Biru. The power source on my computer burned out, and I haven't been able to fix it yet. I will answer your message as soon as I do, with due excuses (I had even written part of the reply when it all went black...). Incidentally, I had just found a source for counties as they were ca. 1859, and I'm going to pass on the info as soon as time permits me. Sorry for all this. Dahn 15:14, 15 April 2007 (UTC) BierutBy all mean, add the note that it was a week after the secret speech, that's interesting. Why do you think we need a citation for Bierut being Stalinist? I don't think there is a single source disputing that...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 02:54, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Hi. Just wanted to thank you for your copyedit of the article. :-) —Anas talk? 03:51, 13 April 2007 (UTC) re: attacksHi Biru, I'm not sure what to do. Any sort of official process would be complete suicide on my part--I made more than a few rude comments to Anonimu on the Fantana Alba page (my "Trotskyist" rant was one of my finer moments), and those would just leap out of the woodwork to bite me in the butt if the issue got any sort of scrutiny. Not to mention the simple fact that even communicating with you anymore makes me a big, fat, inviting target for more sick accusations of being a "groupie"--I have to wonder if he actually knows all the, erm, connotations that word has in English?!--or a "lackey" or your "servant." (Does he just get a kick out of picturing me in a little-French-maid costume in Romanian national colors, or something?!) I'm also especially busy in real life for a week or so starting tomorrow, so I won't have time to deal with any sort of proceedings. Keep an eye on the situation, we'll deal with it once I have more time. K. Lásztocska 04:16, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Piotrus, you interrupted me! :) Biru: message understood. ♠♣♥♦ is the secret sign! Long live the Transylvania Cabal! (I'm actually rather proud of my "Trotskyist" rant, I'm almost getting to 19th-century standards of the Art of the Insult. But Eduard Hanslick still rules, I'm afraid....wow, that was a non sequitur.) K. Lásztocska 04:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC) I merged some wiki sections into this article. By all means, it probably needs a different name, redirects and a copyedit... but would make a good DYK if expanded (a royal coup...).-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk 05:01, 13 April 2007 (UTC) MetropolisI don't know where you took your info from, but I did a good deal of research and found it's Metropolis, as justified by both use and dictionaries. I had quite a long discussion with Dahn on the subject. Can you provide your sources for "Metropolitanate"? Dpotop 17:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC) Pamela BrownYou said she "seems to have died in Avening" in the comment on your recent change. I think she actually died in a hospital in London. Although I've never seen any documents confirming that. She's certainly buried in Avening, with Michael Powell buried next to her. -- SteveCrook 12:28, 15 April 2007 (UTC) The Powell and Pressburger Appreciation Society
You may want to weigh in at Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 April 15#List of songs containing covert references to real musicians, since you were involved in a previous discussion of this article. - Jmabel | Talk 05:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC) MediationHi. I've decided not to take part in the mediation since I do not have so much time now to focus on this issue. I wasn't involved in the discussion too much anyway (I mean not as much as you guys). Thanks for considering me - and I hope you're gonna find somebody better for the job (Dahn maybe?). However, I won't post my disagreement on the mediation page until you find somebody else to replace me. Please let me know, Mentatus 15:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
Previously deleted articlesI deleted the both of them, again. Let me know if they pop up again, and I'll SALT them. Thanks for the heads up. RyanGerbil10(Упражнение В!) 02:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC) sorry! :(Hi Biru, please accept my sincere apologies for my rude and trollish comments on the 1848 page. I'm running on fumes right now (or rather, on three hours of sleep--had to pull an all-nighter last night) and also had a good day suddenly turn rather sour this afternoon. Of course, that is no excuse for my behaving like an utter ass. Please forgive me, it won't happen again. K. Lásztocska 04:20, 17 April 2007 (UTC) Ok. So we're cool? :) Regarding '48, like I've been saying, yes, their original motives had nothing to do with oppressing anyone, it was about ending the repressive rule of the Habsburgs. I've been dipping in and out of a good book abou 48, "The Lawful Revolution" by István Deák--check it out sometime, it's very thorough, generally clearly written and unbiased one way or the other. Oh, and as for Horthy--as you know, the '30s and '40s were one of the darkest times in Hungarian history. Horthy and Szalasi do not speak for Hungary, never have and never will. K. Lásztocska 04:44, 17 April 2007 (UTC) ♠♣♥♦ check the other place--urgent!KL Yup, back at you over there. :) K. Lásztocska 04:27, 20 April 2007 (UTC) No problem, same to you. :) (LOL, I never realized that Dracula was a Székely...!) :) Szia! K. Lásztocska 15:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC) Hahaha! That's great! Count Dracula sounds like a real old-fashioned Kuruc. :) (I like the references to "Turkeyland"--and who couuld have guessed that Bram Stoker knew the word honfoglalás?) I guess I'll finally have to read that book. :) I've only seen the movie version with Bela Lugosi, which is surprisingly good when you consider it was made in the Thirties, e.g. at the height of the cheesily-bad horror movie era. K. Lásztocska 18:04, 20 April 2007 (UTC) Hmm, you're right. Let me re-phrase: I was surprised at how good the movie was, since I had previously thought that the Thirties were an era of laughably cheesy horror movies--a perception based on hearsay and not on empirical evidence. (I actually hadn't seen any of the other films you mention, and still have only seen one or two. Looks like I have some catching up to do...) K. Lásztocska 19:29, 20 April 2007 (UTC) Charles I of Austria's conflict with Miklós Horthy
--howcheng {chat} 05:58, 19 April 2007 (UTC) SorryNo bad intention. I just did not see the message. Thanks for the interesting question. Presidents are "chief of command" in Turkey. I know that to be a president military officers has to resign. However, this rule started beginning with his second term. Exact date of his resignation should be within the first term, but he was a president at that time. He was president when he died. Does that mean he died as an officer? There is no picture of him with military uniform after he became president. Does that say anything. I really have no idea. I guess we need to check his will. If he died as an officer, there has to be some compensations from army. That information should be in the book "Çankaya" which I do not have it in my hand. This is a good question. I will keep that question in mind and give you and update. I'm sorry again. No bad intention. --OttomanReference 02:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
Just a friendly reminder to use an edit summary when proposing deletion for an article. Edit summary usage is always good, but it is especially important that edit summaries are used when proposing deletion. The reason for this is that articles proposed for deletion that later have the {{prod}} tag removed should not be proposed for deletion again, but rather sent to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. The only easy way to check if an article was previously proposed for deletion is to look at the edit history and the edit summaries people have left before. Thanks! Oo7565 05:15, 21 April 2007 (UTC) AfDs...Are you looking to nominate the articles? I think that the discussion would be mixed, but my guess is that the end result would either be keep or merge them into the main article. However, my guess is that the dicussion would call for the clean-up of the articles, namely the price of DSL, etc. Does that help? If not, just let me know! Rockstar (T/C) 05:16, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
Torb37In my opinion, you should ask TodorBozhinov to leave a message on his talk page in Bulgarian, perhaps then he will listen. If that fails, take the matter to WP:AN/I. Khoikhoi 05:22, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
SălajSalut, cred (nu am fost implicat în discuţie) că problema e nu dacă sălaş provine din szállás, ci dacă numele judeţului provine într-adevăr din sălaş. Conform lui Öcsi, etimologia numelui ar fi Zilah (de unde provine şi Zalău), care la rândul lui ar proveni din latinescul Silva (vezi şi Talk:Etymological list of counties of Romania#Other Names). Nu sunt filolog (deşi mă pasionează subiectul), cred că Bogdan e expertul în domeniu. Mentatus 07:35, 22 April 2007 (UTC) ArbCom/Soviet occupation of Romania [10]Filed. Please confirm awareness. -- Biruitorul 16:13, 23 April 2007 (UTC) Request for Mediation
This message delivered: 18:31, 23 April 2007 (UTC).
Re: Soviet occupation of RomaniaWell, the fundamental question you have to ask yourself is what you hope to get out of arbitration. We can't make any rulings that deal with article content directly, so we can't actually "solve" the underlying dispute; is there something you want to see us do that you couldn't do yourselves through further discussion? Kirill Lokshin 20:58, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Um momento, por favorHi. I'll get back to you on all that and your previous queries (I'm currently working on revamping the National Renaissance Front) - I do some minor edits on the side, but I'm focused on that for the moment. Feel free to join me in the process (I could sandbox it or something). A quick answer: yes, I got it from you, and it has meme potential (hope you don't mind I disseminated it). Btw, when I read the message header, I got a shock (I thought I was being scolded for something :). Sorry again for the delay. Dahn 21:18, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
Axis powers of World War IINo problem. As long as the states are mentioned I'll be happy. Mgiganteus1 00:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC) Samuel Adams FACIn response to your comments: That was one of the last sections I worked on, and even though I looked at a number of sources, both online and in books, I could not find any substantial details of his governorship. In any case, I'll see if I can find any more information that I can add to the article. The problem is that he mostly stepped away from the political scene after the Constitution was ratified, and he did not "do much" while in political office. Well, that's how I perceive it as. Thanks for commenting on the FAC, Nishkid64 (talk) 23:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
ProcesulcomunismuluiHi. I have a quick question. I remember you asking me if "procesulcomunismului" was a reliable source. Although I have always considered the links a bit subjective and sometimes outright annoying, I was prepared to assume that they were acceptable. Plus, although I know next to nothing about him, Ioniţoiu seems to be respectable (I based this assessment on the fact that he was mentioned as a researcher in an interview published by 22). But then... I happened to click on a link for to a Legionary site (miscarea.net), and noticed that they have the same link icon as procesulcomunismului... compare [11] and [12]. It is just after that I noticed the link icon could be seen as and probably is a stylized Cross of the Archangel (and with a green dot). The question is: where does that leave us? I mean, the site itself is somewhat partisan, but not necessarily partisan with the Iron Guard. Yet, I am beginning to have serious doubt about its nature. Again, I have to be pissed off that neutral Romanian sources are hard to come by, and, if this should be confirmed, that various diversions of the CivicMedia type induce loony political agendas under the guise of "respectable content", without being properly exposed (let alone countered by respectable sources). Dahn 18:00, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Interesting you mention Vosganian: his defense, when the issue was brought up, was that he never actually contributed, but that Rost took the liberty of printing an article by him which had already been published elsewhere. If this is true, and if it happened with other "contributors", then Rost fits neatly in the pattern of disinformation so-very-present in CivicMedia, AlterMedia and other mushrooms, not to mention Ziua (putting up up a "respectable" front to spew out just anything). We could have an entire conversation about what these "independent journalists" have allowed themselves to publish and why (you know Roşca-Stănescu, the proven Securitate informant and regular visitor of the Prosecutor's Office, who keeps pointing out that this and that guy was connected with the Securitate, based on what other Securitate informants keep telling him). At the very least, Ziua apparently discarded Roncea - I think it was because of the disgusting character assassination of Liiceanu (incidentally, coming the moment Liiceanu made it clear that he was supporter of the VT Report...). And then the Valerian Stans and the Dan Ciachirs and the whatnots. J'accuse. Forgive the rant, but I feel that these people have truly gone too far, and have placed themselves in a position where anything goes. And what is happening now in Romania because of them and their clique is truly outrageous. I do not know if Rost fits in their, but it looks like its staff is made up of the "energetic young men" who have specialized in diversions and duds. I would welcome a Conservative press that does not use "conservative" as an euphemism (and one for such a revolutionary idea!), and does not train in spit-shining some dark legacy - even if it be because they decide to support Gigi (I never though I'd say it, but in this country we can still do far worse than Gigi, and we have a Parliament to provide us with the much worse). Boorish? Come on, he looks like Tintin... :) Just because they have a number hanging from their necks... :) Yes, I can see that article (though the "how many stones does it take to make a pile" argument could call for some other ttle - "killings"? "murders"?). Interesting stuff with the driver and all. Provides some god info on the side (I didn't know the two Steres were related...). I have rephrased it a bit (what I wanted to say is that he "rose in the ranks of the party" or something, AFAIK, by synthesizing some info from several spots in the same place; I don't have the book near me, though, so, in case I misread or misinterpreted the issue, feel free to change it; I shall revisit the text to see how that came up and if it is erroneous). Dahn 19:02, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
On other issues:
Thanks for your fixes here. My bad - normally I'd have picked up those obvious problems but I was trying to help a much newer and younger editor get it to DYK nom's before time ran out and was also running out the door to drive to Melbourne at the time. Appreciate your support. Cheers--VS talk 09:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Samuil catBear in mind that the East-West Schism only happened in 1054, so even if our tsars were technically following the Byzantine and not the Roman rite prior to that, they were formally just Christians :) I'm not sure if it really is necessary to categorize them that way (even Samuil), although I wouldn't mind really. I mean, we don't typically attach such religious categories where they are not surprising. P.S. Another thing — Boris and later Kaloyan had a short love affair with Rome, and Kaloyan can somewhat jokingly be considered an Uniate (he united the Bulgarian church with Rome in exchange for recognition) :) Even later, Ivan Sratsimir was (briefly?) forced to become a Roman Catholic while in Hungarian captivity… so you see, the situation is not really that simple. Best, Todor→Bozhinov 09:46, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
MarshallThank's that's helpful. I'll use it! Paul B 15:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC) Hello BiruitorulI have a serious problem with one of your userboxen. May I elaborate? NikoSilver 11:46, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
A questionCould you please tell me what __NOTOC__ means? You added it at the top of the article Golden Boy and I don't recall ever seeing it before. Thanks! SFTVLGUY2 18:27, 2 May 2007 (UTC) Back on track Hi. I really allowed myself to drift off, and I'm really backlogged. So, no matter what you may say, I think I really owe you an(other) apology. Thank you for the kind comments and the hint on Sebastiani. In case you have the time, could you please look into more of the text? I was kind of focused on adding details in their proper place, and the grammar may still be limping (I kept finding errors after I nominated it, and I want to be safe rather than sorry). It is an interesting read, if I dare say it: I knew virtually nothing about him, and now it seems to me that I've contributed a summary of European history from 1789 to 1848. I mean, the guy was everywhere! Turns out my computer wasn't actually burnt out (thank God): it's just that I keep it open (literally), and thick dust had set on the components, which I'm guessing caused a malfunction somewhere; I took the components out and put them back in, and now it works like a charm. Well, perhaps not like a charm, but let's say it works. On the counties issue: I still think the best way is not to flood the place with new articles, especially since these are bound to be small. Yes, I'm an inclusionist :). If we add a history section to each one in existence, and if we create maps, we could cover all apparent discrepancies and even get some FAs out of it. Of course, we should have separate articles for the regions etc. I would suggest rowiki does the same, but I'm incommunicado with them (I recently noticed users here take my name in vain over there, so screw that project). I know I promised to get you some stuff on the first counties, but I have lost the reference (it was in a Magazin Istoric that I had opened at that page, but I since moved stuff around and forgot about it, so I need to search it again). It is really interesting, and deserves more attention from me: it is actually a facsimile of an act listing members of the ad-hoc divans. Most of them are nobodies (especially people from the third college, lest for Moş Ion), but it makes for a comprehensive list of what was, in theory at least, Romania's first legislature. So we're going for two birds with one stone once I get there. I know very little detail about Blaga's poetry - I should have it around somewhere, and I may have access to works of criticism, but I would need to look into it. On the other hand, Lusophilia in Romania has another prominent representative (though his kind of Lusophilia is rather problematic...). About soap operas: I don't think the statement is correct, and I don't think that the "phenomenon" is notable, but we have had Esclava Isaura about 16 years ago (ungazungazungeee...). On Eminescu and that poem, I couldn't really tell you - but then again, he did work with the themes in several other poems, and this could form the basis of something. One day, I think I will revisit his page and try to add a lot of stringent stuff. (For now, I am really annoyed that Timpul redirects to the Party article, and I would really like to recreate it and expand the other article in the future). I actually had the same kind of doubts about Librescu's cat, albeit not precisely for the same reasons. I can see it working for now, as a provisional thing, but we could consider a cat of "our own", as can-of-wormish as that may become. Survivors of Antonescu's experiment I know of so far include Librescu and Ghizela Vass, so this may not be in the cards yet. [Oh, I almost forgot Celan!] But we should be able to come up with something more comprehensive once the core issues are dealt with (the very concept of Holocaust in Romania lacks a single autonomous article, as opposed to a minuscule section in the main article, which troubles me); I have proposed something to Jmabel a while back, and we seem to have agreed on principle, but it is an immense task to work on, and Goma- or Stoenescu- or Coja-type traps are all over the place. I agree with you on the Axis contributions issues, but the obstacle seems to have been surpassed. I haven't really checked to what extent, but I have an allergy in respect to the large and generic articles, because work there seems to be sysiphic (I learned my lesson when I tried to something about the Mussolini article back in the day). Kudos to that guy for the cabinets info. But it did not solve my problem, I'm afraid. Anyways, they are in the sandbox for us to pick up at any time. About Averescu, Luci, and Take: thanks for the kind words; they're close to launches, I guess, but they still need some stuff done to them. With Luci, I need to revisit VT, since I can use the book entirely, and back up more detail (and we are still lacking the pictures). With Take and Averescu, I would need to visit Ornea, which works in parallel with what I'm doing to the article on Stere. And, damn, I still haven't scanned all the lovely cartoons I keep bumping into (I have some of Averescu, some of Argetoianu, some of Tătărescu, some of Ionescu - all of which are great ways to encompass a moment in history). Which reminds me: hold on to this link - it looks like PD and would work great for a Caragiale article. Come to think of it: we could even make Caragiale our collaboration. On this issue, I do accept more contributors (unless we get in each other's way, that which would call for some kind of schedule or a sandbox); but I do object to a username you brought up, not just for reasons you may know, but also because I don't want to spend a lifetime rewriting his additions into English and pruning all sorts of absurdities (I'm being harsh, but so was he). As the headline says, I'm back on track. (I was following your chat with Niko, and I was mock-wondering myself if it was not the Enosis box :); anyway, I left you a picture, you imperialist you). Dahn 21:53, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Hi. I fully agree with you about the contrast between wikipedia proclaiming/requesting stability and its inability to provide it. And I fully agree with you about the little flags in infoboxes (well, in persons' infoboxes, that is), though I would not define it as a consequence of the same "too perfect" trend - it is rather the result of people who have or think they have nothing to contribute, and who move beyond common sense just because none of their moves beyond it by "too much" (like alcoholics who always have their "last drink"). Btw, did you notice where the FA debate has been heading? Funny thing, I never cared as much about Sebastiani being promoted - I would be infuriated if reasons as relativist and arbitrary as those are taken into account for failing it. And hell, I actually have to be thankful that one of the objectors actually bothered to indicate something (the other one just links ad nauseam to guidelines I never broke). For crying out loud... Dahn 10:29, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
Romanian Land ForcesHi, I remarked that you are interested in Romania and Romania-related articles. I see some huge potential for the Romanian Land Forces article to become a Good article (or, why not, in the future it could be a featured article; see Russian Ground Forces - a former featured page). I'll do my best to expand and improve this article, but I think it's not enough and I may need some help. Are you interested in cooperation? Best regards, Eurocopter tigre 14:52, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
CemetariesI condemn such vandalism in both Estonia and Transnistria. I am also very much annoyed by politicians of all involved countries who either play the "defend the nation from oppression" card to boost their election chances (it's always good to have an outside enemy at such times) or use the occasion as an excuse to exert political and economic leverage on their neighbor and at the same time don't care to even comment on a similar situation when it does not promise some kind of profit for them. Bah, politics. --Illythr 17:16, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Rise of nationalism in EuropeHi Biruitorul. I recently created the above article. You proposed it for deletion. I would like you please to explain why. TerritorialWaters 19:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC). Rise of nationalism in EuropeHi again Biruitorul. I accept your opinion about this article. Being an Irish nationalist this topic appealed to me. However, on second thoughts it is very vague! I probably shoulda given a specific time period for the article.Also, I guess writing anything historical is bound to be challenged. Oh well.... TerritorialWaters, 14:43 9 May 2007 (UTC). GeorgescuCould you source your footnote on Teohari Georgescu. A vandal removed it. 3RR violation on Gheorghe FlondorI have to block you as well as you did 4 reverts in 24 hours removing {{weasel inline}} Alex Bakharev 11:14, 10 May 2007 (UTC) Gheorghe FlondorI have unprotected this article. I highly recommend that if you have problems with the conduct of that user, that you take them to our dispute-resolution processes. Blankly reverting the addition of quality-questioning tags is not (in my opinion) a good way to go about it, even if all they do on Wikipedia is add those tags in a blatantly POV-pushing manner. - Mark 03:58, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Hungarian Muslim populationThe evidence is that it is quite hard to decide who is really a Muslim, so it depends how you count. Is a Muslim only somebody who writes on his census form that he's a Muslim? Is a Muslim somebody who thinks Allah is God? Is a Muslim somebody who follows Muslim traditional customs, or maybe just somebody whose grandparents were Muslim and whose entire family had been Muslim for generations until the Soviet takeover? The reason I got involved is because I am tired of seeing "Islam in Hungary" be changed from 6,000 to 60,000 and back every few days. Now you added another number. I can assure you it won't stay like that for long. I therefore tried to phrase the different opinions in a way that would satisfy everybody. If you want your data to stay and not to turn into an editing war, I really suggest that you add back the information you deleted and start off with your sentence "according to the official hungarian census", then add "but according to other sources there are 6,000 and even 60,000". This is not a simple question. Misheu 06:36, 11 May 2007 (UTC) No probHey, no problem. It was going to take me some time to answer (in fact, I will answer sometime soon, because we do see eye to eye on most things you mentioned, and because your furia francese was entirely justified). I'm sorry about what happened - I can only hope it will not weigh in your quest for adminship (I honestly don't think it should, but I never bothered to check if there was such a thing as a "dos and donts"). Indeed, the Venezuelan page is weird: I have weighed in, but I'm not watchlisting it; I can only assume the paragraph in question is a collateral symptom of our perpetual "hic sunt leones" :). I honestly don't know that much about icons, and I probably let suspicion get the best of me. On the other hand, I went with the "you can never be too careful", so I'm still "keeping an eye on it" from my end. And I am willing to take into consideration the fact that I may be completely wrong. Here's to better times. Dahn 06:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
mulţumesc :)Thanks. It's good to be back, though I am still treading rather carefully so I don't end up losing my head again or getting mired in nasty political disputes or worse, personal battles. I am now *New And Improved*, with renewed commitment to professionalism and good citizenship. I loved the jokes btw--literally made me laugh out loud, especially the second one. :) K. Lásztocska 00:55, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
DYK Listhey, yes, you do make the list - for now (just like all of us, until we find the top twenty five and actually 'compolete' the list). So add your name, your count and your ref. Thanks, —A • D Torque 06:16, 14 May 2007 (UTC) Brahmsheh...you beat me to the punch on those categories, thanks. (I always forget to categorize things....) today I quite literally put my violin down, went over to my computer, and began writing an article about the very sonata I'd just been practicing--I'm so postmodern. (I've also left off the article in mid-sonata. I'll finish it tomorrow.) It was neat, because once I had to describe the exact details of the sonata's form and structure, I began noticing things in the music I'd never been entirely conscious of before. There's nothing better for learning something than having to explain it to someone else... Incidentally, I think I became a constitutional monarchist earlier this evening while watching The Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Long story... One more thing before I log off. I've just heard from our friend István that apparently he's been having an absolutely miserable month. :( If you can spare a few moments, you might send him a friendly note on his talk page just for a little encouragement and cheering-up, I think he could use it. (Maybe throw in that joke about Ceaucescu and "Gyula", I bet he'd get a kick out of that one.) I don't mean to be canvassing or anything (but the Transylvania Cabal still lives!), but we Wikipedians are all in the trenches together and right now I just think István could use our support. :-( K. Lásztocska 04:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks Biru, I appreciate it. As for my monarchism thing--first of all, note I said constitutional monarchy: something along British lines, where there is still a democratic system, parliament and prime minister, and the royals are in a mostly symbolic role. What happened was, Jon Stewart's guest on the show last night was an English journalist who's just written a book about the royal family, and at one point in the discussion this journalist said something to the effect that "the royal family becomes the essence and embodiment of the nation, and keeps that position out of the hands of politicians, who would only seek it for their own benefit." It harmonized so nicely with my thoughts about nationality and my intense dislike of career politicians.....the only problem is I can't bloody well think of who should be Hungary's king/queen, we've spent so much time under foreign rule we don't have any of our own royals left. No, the Habsburgs don't count. ;-) O'Reilly's not really my style--comes across as too anti-intellectual for one thing, and follows the strict party line too much. I do have a healthy respect for the best aspects of conservatism though, I've been reading reams of Florence King lately and she's as conservative as they come, as well as being hilarious and brilliant. K. Lásztocska 14:00, 15 May 2007 (UTC) Oh dear. So we do have a king (or a crown prince, at least), but he's a Habsburg. Right back where we started.....though maybe one could find a lone remaining descendant of Árpád or Csaba out in the Székelyföld somewhere. ;-) I think you'll like Florence King (though I expect you'll disagree strongly with her on some issues, as do I), but at least she's a monarchist too. I'm logging off till this evening now--I have to go explore that Brahms sonata with violin in hand. Later! K. Lásztocska 17:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC) Change it back!Change it back! I obviously meant he was "a respectable Tatar, and a model to us all". :) Dahn 05:36, 15 May 2007 (UTC) On a serious note: the apple of thine eye is missing here, and we are still cramming them here. Should we start something? My main problem is with the "Principalities-to-Romania" scheme, because the Ro Orthodox before the 1860s were actually, dare I say it, Greek Orthodox. With both the Greek Catholics and the Ro Orthodox clerics, I simply traced back from present-day, disregarding past allegiances - will this be workable in general? (Also: damn Despot and [I think] Iancu Sasul - without them, we'd simply be taking the "Princes" cats as a whole and shove them as a subcat in whatever emerges out of the cat I'm submitting to your scrutiny.) Dahn 05:42, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
advice requestedHi Biru, When you get a chance, I'd like your advice on something. There is an editor, whose name I will not mention here, who has been driving me absolutely bonkers since the day I met him. He is persistently rude and uncivil, I have never seen him assume good faith (quite the opposite), he always assumes that anyone who disagrees with him (or posts some fact that he doesn't like) is some sort of fascist troll, frequently uses gratuitously rude edit summaries, has implicitly threatened me and explicitly threatened a friend of mine with a massive edit-war campaign, has declared his intent to stalk a few other users whose opinions he doesn't like and undo all their edits, seems to believe that he and only he knows The Truth about his main area of interest, behaves remarkably arrogantly and disruptively, and basically turns 90% of all the discussions he enters into a vicious flame war. The problem is, he isn't just some random troll. He's astonishingly prolific, and has almost single-handedly written Wikipedia's thorough coverage of his main area of interest. I've been tempted to start an RfC against him for all the incivility, rudeness and disruptive behavior mentioned above, and yet I hesitate. First of all, I really don't want to get myself mired into the long feuds that can arise whenever conflicts between editors become personal. Secondly, I reallllllly don't want him as my outright enemy and I'm frankly afraid of what retribution he might unleash on me if I do launch an RfC or request for arbitration. Thirdly, I've seen what useless messes RfCs can be (remember The Great Piotrus-Ghirla Affair?) and I worry that it might only exacerbate the problem. On the other hand, when I look at all the policy violations and general unpleasantness that he brings to the project, I don't very well see how he can be ignored (and thus tacitly given a free pass) much longer. I'm really not sure what to do. I know you've had some dealings with nasty antagonists before, so I thought maybe you might have a better idea of how to proceed. K. Lásztocska 16:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. :) On that, er, note, I'm going to log off and go practice. On an unrelated topic, what do you make of this whole Vince/sockpuppets/impersonators of sockpuppets mess? I made the mistake of getting involved in it yesterday, and it really is an impossible situation. K. Lásztocska 15:59, 22 May 2007 (UTC) Hi, if you are or will be on WP these days, may I ask you to please watch Traian Băsescu, giben that it is tagged a current event. I and Dl.goe have copyedited recently some sections of the article, then an old acquentence has rv it. If you feel like copy editting it, please be my guest. I will not mind if someone edits, even massively, incl what you might guess i would disagree, as long as it is honest copyedit, not blant rv without even reading. If you have time and interest...:Dc76 16:08, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
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TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 18:28, 19 May 2007 (UTC) ÎntrebareSalut, am şi eu o întrebare şi poate mă poţi ajuta. Este adevărat că limba maghiară este limbă oficială în România cum mai nou spun unii pe aici? Dacă nu, cum/unde pot afla adevărul? (îţi scriu în română pt că îmi este mai uşor să scriu - bănuiesc că nu e nici o problemă).--Roamataa 12:02, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
Here I amHi. I haven't had time to look into your earlier queries (just glanced over the death squads article, and kudos!). I'll be back with answers soon, though. I see you're copyediting Anton Pann, and I thought I could pick your brain about this: having never used the expression "ba e tunsă, ba e rasă", I had to guess its meaning, and I can only hope I got it right - can you perchance confirm or refute my guess? Dahn 15:30, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. That is definitely better. About the meaning, I wrote: "a tongue-in-cheek view of arbitrary conclusions". Is this, to your knowledge, accurate? In the original story, an old man decides to drown his wife after she disagrees with his view that the orchard is razed, and claims that it is "trimmed"/"pruned"; as she is plunged into the water and is unable to speak, she lifts her arm out of the water and gestures a scissor with her fingers. What is Pann's point, after all? Is he sympathetic to the wife, to the old man, or is he lamenting stupid quarrels in general? Not knowing what the expression stands for, I kinda went the latter variant (thinking that it could also cover the other two up to a certain point). I did get that link myself, but I was intrigued that nothing referring to a Greek original/source of inspiration seemed to pop up. The sources I used mention it as if it needs no explanation, but then there's silence... Oh, well. Dahn 16:26, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
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Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Aksibot 20:51, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Recent EditsI don't know who you are but God bless you for your recent clean up on some of the Orthodoxy articles on wiki. They really needed it and I have not been the best editor in giving them the time and attention they needed. God Bless, LoveMonkey 17:09, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Well thank you. I hate to be a beggar but my God is unproud. Uh I created this article Monastery of Humor and I have no real pictures to do this most beloved and Holy place justice. Do you have a picture to show the world the awesomeness of this place? I am often struck with awe at the cosmos painting, that is at this most precious place. It is almost unspeakable in it's Holiness. Also I have a little buddy who is now a huge fan of Moldavia as it is mentioned in the History of the Eastern Orthodox Church article I was trying to help him write. Could you just review the article and possible make it alittle more informative on the most awesome and beautiful Roman:ian and Moldivian Orthodox communities. I do feel that that I did those section justice and my little buddy has frustrated me abit. LoveMonkey 17:20, 28 May 2007 (UTC) Most esquisite! The Holy Spirit has descented! LoveMonkey 17:25, 28 May 2007 (UTC) diacriticalsGaaaaahhh. You may officially give me a harsh slap on the wrist for this unforgivable oversight...thanks for fixing it though. K. Lásztocska 17:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC) drama on the high seasI love the way your twisted mind works. :-) Allow me to present Chapter Two: "The good ship Polonia had taken heavy fire. Certain doom appeared only a few steps away. The Kornilov was just near enough for Commandant Irpen's vengeful visage to be seen through the smoke, his features hardened by many battles and a long wait for revenge. The salty sea air stung Captain Piotrus's eyes as he stood alone on deck, looking perhaps for the last time at the face of his mortal enemy. He looked helplessly at the empty, wine-dark sea around him--would no one come to his aid? His comrades were all either long gone or had been sent into exile by the rogue Soviet soldiers who now circled the battered Polonia slowly, vigilantly, like a shark waiting for the perfect moment to deliver the death blow. The thunder of cannon fire was heard in the distance--the senseless war was still raging all across the blood-stained Black Sea. "Jeszcze Polska nie zginiela", whispered Piotrus to himself, his voice trembling with emotion. "If I am to die here today, at least I shall die as a Pole, with my head held high!" Aboard the good ship Hungaria, the banner of King Mátyás fluttering in the breeze, Lieutenant Lásztocska peered through her spyglass at the Serbian fleet gathering in the distance. To attack or not to attack? That was the question. For a long time now the Serbs had been teetering on the brink of open revolt against both the Hungarians and the Romanians, their fanatical, enigmatic fleet admiral's mercurial orders and campaigns keeping everyone tense and worried about the possibility of war. Already the Hungarians' peace with the Romanians was looking fragile thanks to the Machiavellian machinations of the Serbs, but what to do? An attack would surely light the fuse, war would be inevitable...Lásztocska threw down her spyglass in despair. Why, why, why had Captain István been snatched away by the malicious Fates? He had been missing in action ever since the Battle of Fantana Alba, with only the occasional brief telegram proving that he still lived. And since Commander Alensha had declared herself a conscientous objector and run off to Ancient Egypt, Lásztocska found herself, still only a lieutenant, in command of the Hungaria. The Serbian question tormented her day and night. They had to be stopped before they set the whole continent aflame, but how to stop the clever Serbs without setting the fire herself? Meanwhile, aboard the Dacia, Captain Biruitorul was urging the ship madly forward to Cetatea Albă. Commander Dahn desperately tried to reason with him: "We are needed across the sea! The Poles are all but finished, the Serbs have everyone worried, and the Soviets are poised to take control of the entire region! Surely we have better things to do than take back one citadel!" But Biruitorul would not be swayed. "One citadel today, Moldova tomorrow!" he proclaimed. "I shall not rest until Romania regains the lands that are rightfully hers by the will of God!" "But Captain, the naming conventions in Transylvania..." "Not another word! We will retake Cetatea Albă today, or I will never again be worthy to call myself by the glorious name of Romanian!" cried Biruitorul, weeping with patriotic fervor. "Arrrrrrrrrrgh!" growled Anonimu from his cage. Just then, a red-white-and-green flare went up from across the sea. The Hungaria was in trouble! And with the Poles all but done for, the Czechs too preoccupied with playing their music, and the Bulgarians too confused as to what was going on in the first place, who but the crew of the Dacia could possibly come to the Magyars' aid?......" I leave Chapter Three in your hands, Captain...K. Lásztocska 19:11, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh, you've figured out my strategy--get an idea, throw caution to the wind, and write whatever comes into my head. It's more fun than digging around a pile of musty books for page numbers of citations for my musician biographies, anyway (which I was going to do today but real life intervened.) Anyway, I actually tried thinking about this chapter before gonzoing it down. I loved imagining your drunken crew singing their spirited but terribly off-key rendition of the Orthodox liturgy, by the way. "As dawn rose on the second day of Admiral Lastochka's captivity, she was quickly sinking into oblivion. She had refused to eat or drink anything the fascists tried to present her with (she half-suspected that they drank the blood of Gypsy children) and as a result was growing weaker by the minute. Dimly, she felt madness approaching, and was vaguely aware that she had been singing gloomy Hungarian folk ballads all night. Through her delirium, she thought she saw a familiar ship on the horizon. Could it be...she desperately hoped with every fiber of her fast-ebbing strength...could it indeed be Captain István aboard his good ship SS Ötvenhat, come to rescue her one last time from the jaws of doom? But before she could see clearly, she fainted from exhaustion... ...A splash of cold sea water awakened her, and now she could clearly see the good ship that was approaching the Hungaria. It was not the Ötvenhat, that was for sure, and the sailor standing at the helm was certainly not the witty gentleman of science and letters she had been hoping for; no, this was a bold warrior, a proud son of Trajan. He was tall and strong, his shirt torn and, she noted with some alarm, streaks of dried blood still visible on his hands. But her trepidation vanished as the mysterious Romanian brought his ship near enough to leap onto the deck of the Hungaria, boldly raised his sword and slashed through Lastochka's bonds with one swashbuckling blow. The last thing she was aware of before passing out again was the Romanian taking her in his arms and crossing back over to the safety of his ship... ...She awoke a few hours later, in a bunk below deck. The Romanian was standing nearby, and smiled as he saw her open her eyes. "Welcome to the SS Dacia, Admiral," he said, holding out his hand. "I am Commander Dahn. Here, you'll want some of this," and he handed her a dusty bottle of a golden elixir. "Tokaji?!" said an incredulous Lastochka. "I thought this was a Romanian ship." "It is," said Dahn. "That fine specimen got stuck on the wrong side of things when the borders moved back in 1920--we've been carrying it around not knowing what to do with it ever since." Lastochka groaned. "Oh well, bottoms up," she said, and took a swig. Immediately she felt her strength return. "Well, come on then, let's take you on the grand tour of our mighty vessel," said Dahn, and led her up to the deck. When they arrived up top, Lastochka was startled to see another Romanian, but one she recognized, peacefully asleep on the deck, with a serene smile on his face like a cat curled up contentedly in the sun. "Biru?!" she gasped incredulously, recognizing her old combat buddy from the Battle of Fantana Alba. "Dahn, what the heck happened to him?" "Oh, he went a little nuts and started trying to retake Constantinople," explained Dahn. "I had to tranquilize him. He'll be a little loopy when he comes to, but he'll be fine." Lastochka shook her head, chuckling ruefully. Some things never change. That evening, a terrible storm broke out. The wind was howling, the rain was thrashing, thunder booming and lighting flashing. The Hungaria listed dangerously to the side--the fascist pirates were apparently all too drunk to remember to have anyone mind the helm. "I've got to save the Hungaria!" cried Lastochka above the gale. "Lay down the plank between the ships!" Dahn obliged, and Lastochka scrambled over to her ship and took the helm. "Stay close!" instructed Dahn. "These are dangerous waters, we don't want to get separated!" The wind howled fiercer and fiercer. Suddenly a terrible gust ripped the fascists' flag clean in half--the red and white stripes of Árpád's ancient banner at last broke away and were carried to freedom by the wind. Immediately, a bolt of lightning struck the remaining half, burned down the flagpole [or whatever!] and set the Hungaria herself aflame. Terrified, Lastochka tried to keep the good ship on course, and tried not to hear the bloodcurdling screams of the pirates below deck--alcohol and fire were not a good mix, she reflected. All she could hope was that the rain would douse the flames. Suddenly, a jagged spire of rock appeared out of nowhere. "Land ho!" came Dahn's voice on a gust of wind. The waves roared higher, the wind blew harder-- --and both ships' captains finally lost control, and the proud ships Dacia and Hungaria were dashed to pieces on the rocks. Dahn, Lastochka, Biruitorul, Anonimu and assorted crewmen all survived, but the sun rose the next morning on the bleakest scene yet. What hope could possibly lie ahead for the Hungarians and Romanians? Across the sea, the storm-battered Czechs cowered in fear below deck, nervously playing Strauss' Thunder and Lighting Polka. K. Lásztocska 01:36, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
Whoa, I should scroll up more often! Dahn 17:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC) LOL. Sorry, Piotrus--the tale does seem to have taken on a life of its own, and there seems to be no end in sight. (at least I hope not, it's so much fun...) Yeah, Dahn, you rescued me. Thanks for that.... ;-) K. Lásztocska 21:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
Ehh, we'll all end up heroes eventually. :) This is a great way to get my Wiki fix when I don't have the time (or the brainpower) to make actual useful edits... "The sun rose the next morning on a terrible scene. Two once-mighty ships who once proudly flew their nations' flags were now dashed to pieces on jagged rocks. Three of this epic's heroes--valiant Commander Dahn, righteous Captain Biruitorul, and intrepid Admiral Lastochka, who by all rights could have been standing before kings and dignitaries to recieve their medals of valor, were instead standing gloomily on a desolate island beach, bruised and sore, devastated by the loss of their ships, and feeling that all was lost. Biruitorul was still a bit groggy from the tranquilizer dart Dahn had fired at him, and his speech was occasionally interrupted by mumbled half-conscious silly limericks in Church Slavonic. [it was all I could think of to top your crew's inebriated Beatitudes.]Lastochka was still being herself, wailing at the top of her lungs for King Matyas, Prince Csaba and St. Stephen to intervene to save the day, and Dahn was basking in his newfound glory as hero of an epic. Anonimu, on the other hand....wait...where was Anonimu? A thrill of terror went through each of our heroes as they all noticed at once that the door to Anonimu's cage had been broken open in the crash, and the cage was empty. A high-pitched whistle suddenly split the air as a savage arrow whizzed not two inches from Biruitorul's face. "Fascist!" came a cruel hiss from somewhere in the woods. Another hiss, "Philoguardist!" accompanied another arrow, this one passing by even closer. All three heroes were quite frightened now, but still lucid enough to wonder what on earth these strange words meant--perhaps they were in the local dialect of this island. "What do you make of this, Commander?" Lastochka asked Dahn worriedly. "Dunno," he shook his head. "Native savages, I guess...but how on earth would a bunch of island tribesmen ever get so political?" Suddenly a fierce shout came from the woods: "Holodeni!!". A terrible arrow flew out and struck Biruitorul--he gasped in pain and crumbled to the ground. Lastochka screamed and ran to his side. Our Heroes looked dramatically into the woods to witness the appearance of...Anonimu, his face smeared menacingly with red warpaint, a string of animal claws around his neck, wearing savage tribal regalia with his newly-woven communist banner as a cape. A small army of natives stood behind him, spears at the ready. "This island has been liberated," snarled Anonimu, "and I have been elected General Secretary. You three fascists are enemies of the people and must be dealt with accordingly." His cruel gaze lingered briefly on each of their defiant faces. "Dahn, I'll let you off easy--you could be a decent comrade eventually, after a little re-education. And Lastochka--well, she's just a stupid starstruck groupie, following Biru around like a trained dog, but harmless on her own." He snarled menacingly and looked mockingly into Biruitorul's eyes. "It's you I want. You're the one polluting everything with your fascist Iron Guard propaganda, you're the prime enemy of the people's dictatorship of the proletariat. You put me in a cage! Me, a pure and uncorrupted freedom fighter, battling for the liberty of all the working classes! Now, fascist pig, you will get what you deserve." "I deserve no less than the justice all are afforded in the eyes of God!" Biruitorul protested, but to no avail. On Anonimu's signal, the savages attacked, with whips and clubs and surplus Swiss Army knives (washed up from a previous shipwreck.) Lastochka and Dahn could only watch, despairing, as the savages beat Biruitorul into weak and helpless submission. His eyes still burned with defiance and pride, but he could not raise a hand to halt the attack without ensuring his immediate death. Finally, the savages dragged Biruitorul's limp body into the woods and vanished. For the third time in this epic, Lastochka broke down in despairing sobs. First Istvan had been snatched away by cruel fate, then Biruitorul had been--apparently--murdered before her very eyes. Surely she was next. She was finished, Hungary was finished, all was lost. Dahn too, although he did a better job of hiding his agony, was similarly devastated. His old friend, his comrade-in-arms, his wingman on the high seas. Miserably, the two remaining heroes racked their brains to try to remember the proper prayers for an Orthodox funeral. But that night, Anonimu showed up again, looking very annoyed. "I'm afraid I must inform you that my savages are a bunch of total hacks," he grumbled, "and your fascist captain is still alive." Joy flooded into Dahn's heart, and Lastochka started dancing a gleeful csardas. "He's getting on my nerves like nothing else," the communist chieftain went on. "Perhaps we could...negotiate a settlement?"...... Across the sea, the Czechs played Beethoven's Fifth in anticipation of the approaching world-shaking battle. Whew! Most ridiculous chapter yet. ;-) K. Lásztocska 04:54, 12 June 2007 (UTC) SalutSalut! Am si eu o intrebare: La articolul Budapest, am scos nickname-ul "Paris of the East" pentru ca, din cate stiu eu, asa este numit Bucurestiul. Cineva insa reintrodus nick-ul asta, dandu-mi si o sursa: http://www.globosapiens.net/travel-information/Budapest-197.html . Totusi, din cate stiu eu, asa e numit Bucurestiul. Tu ce stii? Sper ca nu te superi ca am scris in romana. --Mocu 19:15, 28 May 2007 (UTC) DiscussionI started a discussion at Talk:Cătina, Cluj. Your opinion is welcome. --R O A M A T A A | msg 08:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC) Syrian AmericansThanks, I've reworded that part. Great advice as usual. —Anas talk? 22:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC) About the deletion of the Eliberatica pageHello, We, ROSI (the Romanian Open Source Initiative) would like to put up a page about eLiberatica on wikipedia. We actually did this until you filed it for speedy deletion. The eLiberatica Conference brings community leaders from around the world to talk about the hottest topics in FLOSS (Free/Libre/Open Source Software) movement demonstrating the advantages of adopting, using and developing Open Source and Free Software solutions. See eliberatica.ro for more information. We request your help on how we can create a worthy page. So, if you have any suggestions or if there is a conference page on wikipedia that would serve as inspiration, please point us to it. Thanks, Mihai MADOSZ et al.Hi. For some reason, I failed to register the last part of your message, and took my time replying. I hope I didn't seem rude, but I obsessively dedicated myself to filling an almost-gap. I guess replying on the DYK issue is largely futile (though I see a bot has fished out one of your last articles). In any case, the articles are grat, though I wish they had more specific referencing (that would also allow us to expand them with more sources, such as, say, Totok). On the Jewish Union, I really don't know, but, if it were after me, I would have to say it was party (so is the UDMR, after all). I say we add it to the template and list; I'll help pin it in the related articles, right after I'm done with some other stuff. Btw, I recently scanned a lot of random stuff, so expect colorful surprises in some articles. Personally, I favor "Ion Vincze", since I'm pretty sure that was the way he chose to Romanianize his name in the interwar (as opposed to "Vinţe", which, afaict, is 1950s overkill). I allowed myself to refer to him as such, even in earlier contexts, for two reasons that, although I consider them convenient, may or may not turn out to be correct assumptions: for one, we have the Foriş/Luca precedents in respect to voluntary Romanianization of names (it would be rather pretentious to switch to "Luka" and "Foris" when speaking about their youth); secondly, I think it is sometimes best for the reader to be consistent, even if perhaps slightly inaccurate (when referring to Heliade Rădulescu in the 1848 article, I used this full form, even though there is indication that he added "Rădulescu" to his surname at a later date). Sounds reasonable? Boogie down. Dahn 15:48, 30 May 2007 (UTC) InvitatieSalut! Am observat ca aţi fost activ(ă) la articole despre Moldova (indiferent de ce mal al Prutului este vorba), sau despre regiunea Cernăuţi, sau despre Bugeac, sau despre Transnistria istorică. Dacă nu sunteţi indiferent şi vă interesează să contribuiţi la articole despre sau cu relevanţă pentru Republica Moldova, vă rog adăugaţi-vă numele la Noticeboard of the wikipedians from or interested in Moldova. Am vrea:
Daca puteti contribui in medie o data pe saptamana cu o editare despre Moldova, ar fi excelent! Vă mulţumesc frumos si sper sa raspundeti. :Dc76 20:05, 31 May 2007 (UTC) [[15]]He was set free. http://www.antena3.ro/Un-membru-al-grupului-Ilascu--eliberat-dupa-15-ani_jst_33499_ext.html --134.76.126.172 08:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC) Redirect of Liberal Colegial GroupHello, this is a message from an automated bot. A tag has been placed on Liberal Colegial Group, by Mschel, another Wikipedia user, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. The tag claims that it should be speedily deleted because Liberal Colegial Group is a redirect to a non-existent page (CSD R1). AntonescuStop defending Antonescu and stop trying to add heroism to some of his actions. The guy was an idiot and that's that. I don't care if he had some good intentions for the country. He made some wrong choices which were not only political incorrect, but also morally incorrect. They cannot be defended. As for TA, he's playing with you. In another forum, he played a similar role as the one you are playing now, where he tried to convince me that Antonescu did some good deeds. And please stop being such a Christian fanatic. "God is dead." Thanks. --Thus Spake Anittas 22:01, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
I've never said that Transylvanians are not true Romanians. They are. I've always said that Moldavians and Transylvanians are true Romanians. :) Where are you from? --Thus Spake Anittas 19:48, 5 June 2007 (UTC) A very interesting issue here. There are some who would argue that any fair use photo of a person is replaceable as long as that person is living. Your position seems to be that if the photo shows a person in a prior phase of life, it cannot be replaced. This could arguably apply to any photo that depicts a person and is 15-20 years old or older. I'm not saying you're incorrect, just trying to work through the issue and tease out some practical guidelines, as I am relatively new at this. Can you point me to any WP policy one way or the other? Thanks much. --Butseriouslyfolks 06:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Hold the pressesYour guidance has yet again blossomed: the Project is going to be Kogălniceanu, if you agree to it. It came about by accident in a chat I had with Turgidson, and the idea is that he is going to sandbox is for us to work on. Which is nice, because I have a comprehensive article on all his family to cite from. There is the matter of how to avoid edit conflicts; my proposal is that we use the text already present as a template on which to add from other sources. We then map out a plan on how the article should be structured to trace the main events and avoid repetition, while figuring out what future or present articles link to the page and where (kinda like what we planned with the labor movement); for example, we could have a Main article: Dacia Literară, a Main article: Cuvânt pentru deschiderea cursului de istorie naţională, a Main article: Secularization of monastery estates in Romania (or just links to all of these in the text, depending on what sources dictate to us). We then each indicate our sources - we divide those we all have access to among us, and then we each introduce from his side to the text already in there. More or less the same thing for sources only one of us have access to. The best way to do this is, basically, to add everything relevant from each source, one source at a time (we could each start editing in one go, and mark an edit summary as "done" when we have finished). Sounds like a plan? Oh, and since it is basically Turgidson's turf, we let him decide on Oxford vs. American English, referencing system etc. Dahn 14:11, 5 June 2007 (UTC) ANII guess a more pertinent question is do you feel that you have been personally attacked by the "ultra-nationalist holodeni" edit summary?--Isotope23 17:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
Szigeti's infoboxGroan. You're completely right about the flag--though please note that I was not the one who added the infobox, I hate infoboxes. I'll change the flag but I will not, unless you think it is absolutely necessary, follow the lead of a certain irritating hungarophobe and write "Budapest, Kingdom of Hungary". I will just make "Hungary" link to "Kingdom of Hungary." Nobody really bothered with the full name back then anyway. K. Lásztocska 13:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC) Yeah, that'd be hilarious if we had to go through an RfC for our little Horatio Hornblower saga...I can see it now. Anonimu: "Biruitorul violated WP:CIVIL, WP:NPA and WP:DICK by putting my character in a cage!" Panonian: "Well, Lastochka insults me and all Serbian people by make Serbian fleet admiral an evildoer, WHY? This is just more irredentist Hungarian propaganda fabrication about "evil serbs," she is clearly Greater Hungarian nationalist and wants to take territorial claim to Vojvodina." Me: "Why did you head for Constantinople instead of rescuing me, again?" You: "Well, why did you dash both our ships to pieces on a rock?" I'm working on that one btw...now that the Russians have been dealt with, some new danger is approaching. (hint: someone's out of his cage.) K. Lásztocska 21:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC) I changed this article as suggested in the talk page; to sort it; and to break the article into sections. If you revert it, please don't revert the stub sort (international-law-stub). Bearian 21:59, 7 June 2007 (UTC) Though I should have learned my lesson with Horace, I think I'll have a go at FAC with thisun. I'm thinking of going through peer-review first, but I would appreciate it if you would copyedit it first, just in case you have the time and the patience. Dahn 22:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
I've nominated this article for deletion. You may like to join in the discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Marcus Tristan Heathcock. Grover cleveland 07:17, 10 June 2007 (UTC) no can doper wp:npa and WP:HAR.Anonimu 16:15, 10 June 2007 (UTC) 1. what have "holodeni" and "philoguardist" to do with npa? 2. where did i call you "philoguardist"? Anonimu 18:42, 10 June 2007 (UTC) 1. i've never said "holodeni" means what you claim. It depends what you understand by "philoguardist" (i wouldn't be surprised if you'd find another strange acronym). 2. As i've already said, wiki rules prevent me from doing that.( btw, it's interesting to see you feel a "philoguardist")Anonimu 18:58, 10 June 2007 (UTC) 1. what sophistry? 2. you seem a bit paranoid. npa also applies to off-wiki actions. Anonimu 06:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC) 1. not if those "personal attacks" are only in your mind. 2 "paranoid" it's not a personal attack, it's just a personal opinion (you keep claiming i've attacked you, the only proof being that "you know it"). Anonimu 06:17, 12 June 2007 (UTC) i'm getting bored with you threats. try finding something new.Anonimu 07:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC) DiffCan you please explain this [16] edit? I'm curious why you replaced the flag with a 48 star flag? Thanks. - Philippe | Talk 02:41, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Powell infoboxyou wrote:
CapraCopyedit from my "talk page:" I'm making a temporary strategic retreat from this battle, but as a parting shot, may I please ask you to check this link? "Div." is quite clearly a possible meaning for "divorced", and in that context, I bet no reader would be left in doubt as to its meaning. Biruitorul 06:53, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
Morea ExpeditionThank you for this wonderful translation, and for asking for my thoughts about it. You did a great job. It's stange to see one of my "babies" live its life on its own. Thanks. ReplyHave you tried a WP:RFC on that editor? Much of what I'm seeing is very incivil & unhelpful, but short of what I would block for.--Isotope23 17:34, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
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