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Thanks for your reply on my talk page. I think that it is even more complex than you indicated. I tried to summarize the issues as I see them. See: User_talk:Dbiel#Need Help2. I would like to find a way to make the image acceptable, but I just do not see how to do it. Any suggestons?Dbiel(Talk)06:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Boy you are fast, I am still working on this simple post and you have already replied. Thank you. That was basicly my thinking as well. Dbiel(Talk)06:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
No problem. As much as I hate to give up on a topic that could improve the Encyclopedia, I don't think this would be the most productive way to spend one's time :) Cheers, --Bfigura(talk)06:12, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Thanks again, and I am afraid that I would have to agree with your last statement, Just too much effort required for the limited return on investment. Dbiel(Talk)06:27, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
Re: ANI RVV's
I figured someone would get to it :) I am not sure what the whole thing is about, but it needs to go to a talk page or go away. This is why I deal with radio stations...much, MUCH less drama and headache :) Take Care...NeutralHomerT:C06:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
In response to your note on my talk page, please note that I removed some of the content of your watchlist archive as it contained a series of titles of deleted articles that are not suitable to be created. As you didn't wikilink any of the titles, you can access the list almost as easily in the page history. -- User:Docu
Right. However it's useful to notice if those articles are ever recreated. I don't think the list does any harm, and I do find it useful, hence it's existence. In the future, if you feel the need to dramatically alter my userspace, please don't mark your changes as minor (that sort of thing violates WP:MINOR). Best, --Bfigura(talk)18:09, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
I agree with your note on minor (you stated that already before), but as you noticed the edit, I suppose it's not much an issue. It happens when I click Save before removing the minor flag.
More specifically, IMHO your sub-pages violates WP:LIVING by combining the name of a Everett High School teacher with a series of names. If you want to notice if a page is recreated, you should use Special:Watchlist. Your subpage is entirely useless in this regards. -- User:Docu
Since the page contains solely a list of page names, I'm not seeing where this is a violation of WP:BLP, unless one of the article titles is defamatory (or reveals personal info). If that's the case, I'd be happy to remove it. And as is stated on the top of the page, the function of the page is reduce my watchlist down from thousands of pages to a more manageable number. That way, I can occasionally check on pages by adding them back in to the watchlist without constantly having a cluttered watchlist. --Bfigura(talk)13:54, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
IMHO they are. Please do. You can load archived versions easily from the page's history, but it wont get indexed by google. -- User:Docu
I still don't see a BLP issue, but I'm willing to make some changes to allay your concern. However, the next time you come across a similar situation in someone's userspace please: (a) don't mark your changes as minor (I'd recommend changing your pref's to having the minor default to off unless you make mostly minor changes to Wikipedia) (b) dicuss your concerns before making changes, unless there's a pressing BLP issue, and (c) if there is an pressing issue that needs immediate attention, discuss it after making the change. Making the purpose behind your edits clearer will save a lot of confusion and grief. --Bfigura(talk)03:53, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Try [1] and you will see why this can't wait. -- User:Docu
I actually already made the change (at the time of my last edit). I imagine it will take some time for google to refresh it's cache. --Bfigura(talk)04:32, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
Dear bfigura
Why did you put a wicu tag on my page (Ali rahimi). The article is not finished and it was made clear that we were still working on it but felt that what was available, was worth mentioning. I did not know that you also did not want to give others the opportunity to create an article. I have to ask you to tell me what your reasons are to do that and what it is that you expect from us to do now. If you have no slide reason I will report you as a vandal.
Remember, if you don’t like something, it does not mean that others will follow your example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.122.1.140 (talk) 22:08, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
I think you may have misinterpreted the tag. The icu tag is used to alert other editors that an article may need improvement, it is not a tag suggested deletion (we have {{db}} and {{prod}} for that purpose). The purpose of the ICU is help articles that may need improvement, not to get things deleted. Best, --Bfigura(talk)22:15, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
dear bfigura,
in that case I am sorry. i do have one question. when will I know if the artickle is oke
Actually, after looking at the page in the ICU, it looks like the concerns have been addressed. I've removed the tags from the page. (In the future, the GNU tag goes on your userpage, not on the article. Best, --Bfigura(talk)01:41, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
Dear bfigura,
Thank you very much for your help and advice. I think I have misjudged you. I will register and when I have done that I will let you know, maybe one day I can help you.
One more time and I think I'm going to send this one to the salt mines... Oh, and thanks for the speedy deletion notices, which is the reason I came to comment in the first place. Cheers, CP07:21, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
No objections here, although hopefully he'll get the warning I left for him after the last round. Better to get the point across rather than have him pick a new title. (Although I imagine that would earn him a vacation though. Cheers, --Bfigura(talk)07:24, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
Hey, got your message, however, I decided to avoid the drama there and other places now before I dig myself a massive hole I can't get out of (I noticed I started that). Thanks for informing me though. Kwsn-pub (talk) 20:20, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
RfA thanks
Just wanted to say thanks for supporting me! Please find your thank you card here, should you wish to see it. I'm honored to have received your support. All the best, ~Eliz81(C)21:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
How to lock an article from revision
First of all, thank you for your notice on my box. I am tired of all those continuous and myriad
malicious revisions and additions to [South Korea] article bu those some chauvinists from Japan and some other east asian countries. Please let me know how to protect (lock) the article from those sick acts. Please leave me instruction on my box. I am a kinda of novice to Wikipedia. Thank you.Patriotmissile (talk) 22:12, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Page protection may be requested here, please review the instructions on the page carefully before filing a request. Protection is generally only granted in instances where multiple users are repeatedly vandalizing a page. Best, --Bfigura(talk)22:40, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
Amato's notability
Hi - I'm working on trying to update all of the pages that relate to Maine, and the Amato's article is one of the one's I'm working on. Can you clarify the notability policy a little better, because I don't see how the Amato's article is not notable. Thanks User:AsukaSeagull —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.244.107.66 (talk) 15:10, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
I read through the article's source in more detail, and I think it's probably enough to establish notability. I'm not really sure it's AfD-proof (since there's only one source), so I'm not going to take down the notice, although I won't have any problems if you want to. (Another source from a newspaper or some such would probably make it AfD-proof... I can't tell if the current source is tourism site or an amalgamation of newspapers). Anyway, hope that helps. Best, PS: I hope I'm replying to the right person, since my talk page was signed by an IP) --Bfigura(talk)03:45, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
RFA thanks
Dear Bfigura,
Thank you for your support comment in my recent RfA. Words nor pictures can express my heartfelt appreciation at the confidence the community has shown me. I am both heartened and humbled by this confidence. I will carry the lessons learned from the constructive criticism I have received with me as I edit Wikipedia, and heed those lessons. Special thanks to Pedro and Henrik as nominators. Special thanks to Rudget who wanted to. A very special thanks to Moonriddengirl for her eloquence.
Your text is found here. [2] You have been a friend that has helped to take the right path. This makes you a good person. Please accept my nomination for you. I would be honored if you accepted. Thanks and good night. Simba4000 (talk) 05:46, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
I'm honored, but I'm going to have to decline. Not really interested in it at this point in time. It's much appreciated though :) --Bfigura(talk)06:36, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
MOVEit Citations
I'm looking for "citation" advice that you offered here. (I listed some possible citations here)
(Also, do you know how to get these Wiki messages forwarded to a real email address? When you only sign on once a quarter...you really miss a lot.)
something about you saying i edited something with cells, didn't quite catch it but I must certainly did not edit that myself. Sorry if i did in any case? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.238.27.110 (talk) 11:29, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
No worries. Since you're logged in with an IP address, its possible (and likely) that the issue was with someone else who was temporarily assigned the same IP address before you got it. There's not really any way to tell what person is behind which IP address, which is a great reason to create an account if you're interested in contributing. Cheers, --Bfigura(talk)19:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
“44 gallon drum” vs. 55 gallon drum”
Bfigura: With regard to Wikipedia”s 44 gallon drum article, I made two, easy-to-find posts on its talk page that are self-explanatory. Am I wrong to take that position or do I make a valid argument? This seems to go far beyond an issue of “style.” Greg L (my talk)23:45, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
spitzer
Hi,
I changed the section title since the FBI has definitely said he's under investigation as part of that act, and I added researched ref for the Popov claim as well.
Thanks, that's probably better, given the WP:BLP issues. (After all, it doesn't seem like its clear which crime they'll charge him with yet.) And thanks for cleaning up the references too :) Best, --Bfigura(talk)04:05, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Talk:MOSNUM mediation
Bfigura, hello again. Are you and administrator yet? I think we’re going to need one. Debate and a vote is ongoing on Talk:MOSNUM regarding a proposal that would deprecate the use of computer terms like “kibibyte” (symbol “KiB”), “mebibyte” (symbol “MiB”), and kibibit (symbol “Kib”). It would no longer be permissible to use terminology like a “a SODIMM card with a capacity of two gibibytes (2 GiB) first became available…” and instead, the terminology currently used by manufacturers of computer equipment and general-circulation computer magazines (“two gigabytes, or 2 GB”) would be used. Much vitriolic discussion has transpired and voting is ongoing here. It appears the final tally will be 2:1 (maybe better) in favor of the new proposal. As this is far from unanimous, I believe we may need a group chair to “call it a game” when the time comes. I’m not sure we need one just yet—I’ve so far managed to shepherd the proposal with a minimum of chaos in the proceedings—but when the need develops, would you be interested? Can you serve in such a capacity if you are not yet an admin? Can you serve in such a capacity if you are an admin? If you can not serve, can you propose someone you think would be suitable? Greg L (my talk)00:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
Hi Greg. Nope, no mop for me. I've been a bit busy with RL, so I've been on a wiki-hiatus of sorts lately. As far as the proposal, I'm busy with work until the weekend, so I probably won't have time to look at it until then (apologies). Let me get back to you soon though. Best, --Bfigura(talk)15:58, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
So, to finally reply: I tend to agree with you, in that I think there's probably not much use for deprecated terminology. However, I don't think I'm really up for serving as a MOS coordinator on the topic. Due to work, my on-wiki activity is kind of sporadic at the moment, so I'd hate to be in a position where people are waiting on a reply from me for something. (And for the same reason, I'm not really sure of who a good person would be off the top of my head.) If I think of (or come across) someone, I'll let you know though. Cheers, --Bfigura(talk)00:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
Thankspam
Thank you...
...for your participation, criticism, and support in my recent RfA, which succeeded with a final count of 90/1/1. I appreciate all of your kind words, criticism, and suggestions. I extend a special thanks to Acalamari for his nomination, and Dihydrogen Monoxide and Husond for their coaching and nominations. If you need help in any administrative matters, please contact me.
Thank you again and, best regards, Neranei
This RfA thanks inspired by VanTucky's which was in turn inspired by LaraLove's which was inspired by The Random Editor's, which was inspired by Phaedriel's original thanks.
...for helping me navigate the waters of my surprisingly peaceful RFA, which closed successfully with 85 supports, 1 oppose, and 0 neutral.
I would particularly like to thank Acalamari and Alison, my nominators, and everyone who watched the page and ran the tally.
If there is anything I can do to be of service in the future, please feel free to contact me. (Oh, and if you hate RfA Thankspam, please forgive me. I promise I won't block you for deleting it ;-))
And forgive me if I need a Wikibreak now and then (like now. I'm exhausted!). You wouldn’t want to see me climbing the Reichstag, now would you?
Off to flail around with my new mop! (what?!)
Kathryn NicDhàna♫♦♫ This RfA thanks inspired by Neranei's, which was inspired by VanTucky's which was in turn inspired by LaraLove's which was inspired by The Random Editor's, which was inspired by Phaedriel's original thanks.
Hi there. As a quick note: I didn't delete the page, that was done by an unrelated administrator. However, the page appears to be a substantial recreation of a previously deleted page (see Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Kappa_Mu_Alpha, and is also subject to speedy deletion, as the article doesn't really indicate why the subject is notable. (For a definition of notability as it pertains to organizations, see here). If you think you can fix the article to meet the standard, please feel free to place the {{hangon}} tag on the article page. If you have any questions, feel free to leave a note on my talk page. Best, --Bfigura(talk)01:35, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Antoshi
The user has on more than one occasion added information that was not cited even after being asked to find sources for his information, myself and others have asked him to find sources however he has refused to and has been nothing but rude to me. He deleted warnings from his talk page that i have placed there due to his continual additions of uncited information after repeated rollbacks and requests to cite his information. Although he insists that the information he has added was from his own research which can not be cited. Comments sure, remove them.. however i have seen warnings reverted on talk pages before. Warnings are there for not only the user to look at, but for admins and other users to see as well. Thank you for your concern and i hope this has made the situation more clear for you.
AnnaJGrant (talk) 23:09, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
This is precisely what I'm talking about. "Thank you for your concern and i hope this has made the situation more clear for you." If that's not condescending, then I don't know what is. What's more is that, despite Anna's clear twisting of facts, I only reverted my changes back one time. I then decided not to continue reverting and took it up on Anna's talk page. You yourself have stated that good faith edits do not warrant warnings, and I know for a fact that I have never been told before that I cannot delete content off my own user talk page. The content I have now I simply chose not to remove because there was nothing wrong with it, but Anna seems to be pressing the issue further when I simply wish to delete her comments off my talk page and move on. If I need to, I will request for Admin intervention, because it's my belief that Anna is simply policing Wikipedia. --Antoshi~!T | C23:16, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Now, with regard to citations and such: our verifiability policy does state that challenged (or info likely to be challenged) information lacking citations can be removed. Our policy on original research states that Wikipedia isn't the place to publish information you have obtained/researched/calculated yourself. These two are pretty clear cut. (However, unless information seems to be false, reasonable people can disagree as to whether or not it's worth challenging/removing). Best, --Bfigura(talk)23:25, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
Bfigura, the content on the Wrestlemania 24 article is not being disputed, I've already given up on that. What is being disputed (and revert warred) is the "warnings" AnnaJGrant left on my user talk page which I simply do not want there. And as such, every time I go to delete it, she reverts it back and escalates the warning, claiming that I will be blocked from Wikipedia if I do not cease. That is that matter at hand here. I want to delete her comments and warnings for my faith edits and move on, whereas she wishes to keep it on my talk page like it was some kind of permanent record. I'd also like to take the time to appreciate your help and support, as well as the link to the "Angry mastadons" article which made me chuckle. --Antoshi~!T | C23:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
(e/c) Glad you like the essay -- it's one of my favorites. Regarding the templating and removal thereof, it's something of an open question (see Wikipedia:Centralized_discussion/Removing_warnings). However, as this isn't a case of a blatant vandal, there shouldn't be an issue with the removal. (Some people think it's rude to template regulars, so I think removing this it is ok, so long as there's an effort made to try and figure out what issue caused the warning in the first place). Just my 2 cents though. Best, --Bfigura(talk)23:43, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
His edits were in good faith, yes. However when they were reverted and he was asked to provide a reference to verify the edit he did not, so it was removed again. I placed a notice on his talk page to address the situation, and i received a hostile response. I admit i should not have reverted the notice on his talk page and should have just let it drop there, but i was indeed a little off'd due to the rude comments left on my talk page.
His newest comment on my talk page however, is even more rude, and threatening. I am big enough of a person to admit when i am wrong, and i have. I was wrong to keep pushing after he left such a rude comment on my talk page.
I consider this matter dropped, not because of his threats to go to admin, but because i really dont need this stress with a test coming up on friday.
Hi Anna. I think I agree with everything you said. You did make a mistake (but kudos for owning up), and so did Antoshi by responding harshly. Everyone's human, so let's move on and go build an encyclopedia (or study, as the case may be). (Well, that or go check and see what amusing pranks have been pulled today). Some things aren't worth getting worked up over. Best, --Bfigura(talk)23:47, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I see nothing wrong with what I said. In fact, I re-worded my original reply to her because it would have been more harsh, but I tried to stay cool. It's clear her willingness to stop and the removal of all her notes were because of my Admin intervention comment, and it surely would have tarnished her request for Administrator. Anna should not confuse sternness with threatening, as I was firm in my decision to get Admin intervention. I still believe that Anna is quite full of herself, from my short experience with her. It seems she is willing to talk down to any and all users in the belief that she is right, despite only being a user for a month. Policing user pages, and when push comes to shove, twisting the facts so that it looks like other editors are the bad guy. This whole situation has been ridiculous, and something that I did not deserve as I did nothing wrong to begin with. --Antoshi~!T | C23:59, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
I guess my point is that our policy is to be civil, even if you think the other person is wrong. While I understand that you were upset, phrases like "ooze arrogance" are kinda why WP:MASTADONS exists. (As an aside, I've got to wonder where arrogance would ooze from? On second thought, no, I don't really want to wonder that). But anyway... I agree that you didn't deserve the templates, but I think this is one of those cases where its worth being more polite than you feel. Just my $0.02. Best, --Bfigura(talk)00:12, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
a moment's worth
"Currently working on an undisclosed project sponsored by Diesel Clothing and Belvedere Vodka. Said project reported to be completed by Fall 2008. Production details unknown. [1]"
'undisclosed' meaning no one knows specifically what the project is but it has been said that they were collaborating together.
Hi there. There are two problems here. First, the article appears to be a blatant copyright violation (please see this page for information on how copyrights you own may be incorporated into Wikipedia). Second, the article appears to be written solely to promote a company, and Wikipedia is not for advertising. More information may be found at our Businesses FAQ. Best, --Bfigura(talk)05:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Make that three problems. From your username, it would appear that you are promoting a site with which you are involved. This tends to create a conflict of interest, which is generally frowned upon, as it compromised Wikipedia's policy on having a neutral point of view. Please refrain from editing articles on subjects with which you have some involvement. Thank you. --Bfigura(talk)05:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
Hey, thank you for diving in and rescuing me from myself-- I was just about to do a "move" when your message came in, I've responded on my talk page but didn't know if you'd see that soon or not so I'm leaving a note here, too. thanks! LynnMaudlin (talk) 00:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Help
There is a certain individual claiming to be somebody on Wikipedia.
Perhaps a king?
Anyways, I am seeing he has screwed up my page colors and edited a contribution. How old is this person? Seven?
He is Jprw on here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jprw
I really don't undestand this kind of behoavior on this site.
How can one tolerate this?
I have been using my pc for over 10 years and have never seen anything like this.
It'd be a bit easier to help if I knew which instance you had an issue with. Do you have a specific link? Best, --Bfigura(talk)04:31, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
I think the character has stopped being a problem.
I fixed his mess he had done to me.
This back and forth seems a bit much. I put in a report at AIV, but I'm not sure they'll take it, given that it's in userspace (and not typical blatant vandalism). Any ideas? --Bfigura(talk)04:09, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
It's a G11, and has been deleted. No action to take unless she keeps making the page again. BoL (Talk) 04:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Yeah, just saw the deletion. So far it's only been recreated as listing her name. Hopefully that'll be it. --Bfigura(talk)04:14, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
With any luck, it'll just stay blanked. (Having your user page salted and your talk page protected would be a sad state of affairs). --Bfigura(talk)04:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Not that I see from the logs. She just blanked the last message I left. As long as it stops there, I don't see a problem... except that she just started blanking wikiprojects. Hmmm, know someone with a hammer? --Bfigura(talk)04:35, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
LOL I USED to think new page patrol was like whack-a-mole. Now I describe it as being more like standing in the path of a firehose blasting out sewage and trying to divert individual lumps to one side while keeping an eye open for the occasional glint of a diamond. <sigh> I think that's a little too cynical -- I'll go to bed. Thanks again -- see you round the firehose!! LOL Accounting4Taste:talk05:05, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you for answering my questions. From the perspective of a noob I must admit that I was a bit shocked to see how aggressive some of the editors were in their comments. Your responses helped me to understand why OVerus was deleted so fast. Clearly, Wikipedia is _not_ any type of marketing vehicle. As stated in the AfD discussion, Wikipedia is not a place to gain notability, it is a place to rest _after_ notability is established and recognized by reliable sources.
Kmiklas (talk) 14:41, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
No problem. I've really got to commend you for taking everything in stride, most people wouldn't have handled the situation nearly as well. We can always use good editors, so hopefully there's something here you'd be interested in working on. Best, --Bfigura(talk)22:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Unusual refusal to restore deleted material to userspace
I've declined (politely) to restore the OVerus material to User:Kmiklas' userspace. I feel that his COI and promotional agenda are so blatant that I couldn't in good faith give him this stuff. I wonder if you concur with my reasoning here? --Orange Mike | Talk15:26, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with that. While he's been very civil in his handling of the matter (which is largely why I've been answering his questions), given his COI he simply shouldn't be trying to write the article (which perhaps is a point I should emphasize more to him). And even if there wasn't a COI issue, I don't think the company is close to meeting the notability standard. Best, --Bfigura(talk)15:48, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
Noland
No, I looked for the field on the net and I found it was strange no one had anything about it. I live in the area and I have heard many stories about the battle at Noland, maybe it's just stories though, I'm not sure. I've planned to gather information on it so I don't have much at the moment.
Vilepluume (talk) 23:14, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Okay, feel free to gather more references. But the fact that I can't find anything makes me thing that perhaps the Noland Battlefield is a local name only. I did look on wiki for other possible names, but the revolutionary war isn't my strong point. Best, --Bfigura(talk)23:16, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
Alright, I was planning on asking some people about it tomorrow. Thanks for understanding, and the War isn't exactly my strong point, either :p Vilepluume (talk) 23:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
No worries. I think I answered one of his earlier help desk queries, which is why he's here. Still, I seem to recall seeing that this article got deleted over on ko.wiki, so I'm not thinking it's really a viable article. (Although the links documenting that seem to have gotten wiped with the deletion of these articles). --Bfigura(talk)23:54, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I apologize for my behavior earlier. I am a new user and would appreciate a little coaching if you would allot me the time. I wish to make constructive use of this site as well as contributions. Please write me back and explain what you thought was so offensive about my information and I would be happy to discuss it with you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joel Butts (talk • contribs) 22:54, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
I think it should be fairly clear why it isn't appropriate to insert references to bras into an article about Algebra. --Bfigura(talk)23:04, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
