User talk:Beshogur

Oghuric languages

Merhaba neden Oğur dillerindeki editimi sildin? @Beshogur Xiongnu dilinin teorilerinden biri de Türk dili olabileceği

O zamanlarda Common Turkic form bulmamıştı yani iddia edilen Türk dili kısmı Oğur grubunu içeriyordu siz ne sebeple kaldırma gereği duydunuz? Onoghuren (talk) 17:46, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

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Ottoman Empire Map

I have noticed that you have repeatedly reverted the default setting of the map to show the borders in 1914. This makes as little sense as displaying the borders of the Roman Empire in 1453 as a default map. It was not clear at all, to me at least, what your rationale was. I looked at your notes, but did not make sense to me. Let us know in the talk page of the article if there is an overwhelming reason for your selection of 1914 default. Otherwise, I suggest you refrain from repeated reverts that are ruled out by Wiki policies. Thanks.

The Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire are vague terminologies, Romans undergo a different transformation with different style of regimes. So stop showing examples of other articles. Ottoman Empire was a single state with the same regime. Beshogur (talk) 10:10, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also I would consider a gif image another option. Beshogur (talk) 10:13, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Türk lisan

Hello, I have noticed that you have reverted my contribution of the third variant of spelling of Turkish language (Türk lisan) with your reasoning being “Nonsense” I want to clarify what you meant by that. Türk lisan is used in Turkey and elsewhere in Turkish communities abroad. My source are my Turkish friends who reside in Turkey. They all verified that the word lisan is a Turkish word for language. I would ask you to explain yourself. 46.211.107.98 (talk) 16:15, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

You must be kidding. Beshogur (talk) 21:01, 5 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ottoman Beylik

I saw you have deleted Ottoman Beylik article 2 times . Can you provide the exact reason for that ? I think specific page for that is needed almost similar page do exist by the name of rise of Ottoman Empire but it covers a lot of more things. There should be a page specifically for Ottoman Beylik the time from Osman - Mehmet. Therealbey (talk) 19:00, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No I won't. You're creating literally copy of the Ottoman Empire page. Beshogur (talk) 19:54, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent vandalism on Bashkirs page.

Hello. You have reverted my contributions to the Bashkirs page, stating that you have improved the article. You have erased all of my contributions and targeted pages to which I contribute to. I will report that behaviour to admins. Vofa (talk) 17:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wow such contributions! Adding a spelling that doesn't even appear single time in the article and removing a source, adding [citation needed] instead. Go on. Beshogur (talk) 17:48, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Noted. Vofa (talk) 09:28, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Caliphate

Caliphate was a consultation based theocracy not monarchy. It's an islamic system and according to Islam it's based on Shura not inherited by son or daughter. Now you can't make umayyad caliphate or Abbasid caliphate as base for that it should according to Islamic principals its reflection was the Rashidun Caliphate. Therealbey (talk) 18:01, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Therealbey:, that's not true. As I can think, vast majority of the caliphates were hereditary. It is basically inherited by son. You should be changing the lead if you think otherwise, you can't state two opposing things. Beshogur (talk) 18:05, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
And it's not something that we should use as who are in majority. It's an important Islamic rule. part of Islam actually. like (hypothetically) you can't say prophet Muhammad if Christianity claims that he preached Christianity and according to population Christians are in majority so will you say that Muhammad preach Christianity by majority claimed that . That was an example but it is not something like a country or state only it more spiritual in Islam than material state. It is a part of Islam and it doesn't matter after islam who used the title and made another political system. So if you don't mind we should change it to how it was. CONSULTATION BASED THEOCRACY Therealbey (talk) 18:18, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, the article states it was initially elective, and later hereditary. I don't understand what you're trying to say. Those Ummayad, Abbasid, Ottoman caliphates were all hereditary. Open a topic on the talk page of the article. Beshogur (talk) 18:23, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi

can i add Maridah bint Shabib it on iraqi turkmen page? Turkiishh (talk) 18:10, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know why this is so important? That person was no Iraqi Turkmen either. Beshogur (talk) 18:13, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
it was not only turkmen who moved to iraq if you look under migration under arab rule, I think it fits more in iraqi turkmen page Turkiishh (talk) 19:20, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your recent vandalism on Bashkirs.

Please do not try to belittle or erase information. Open the Talk page in Bashkirs to check sources for the name Bashkurd, used to describe Bashkirs/Bashkorts. Vandalism is not allowed on Wikipedia. Vofa (talk) 06:16, 26 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Dispute resolution noticeboard

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Uyghur khaganate

Supplementary Tables go to s3_individuals then go to s6_sex Haplogroups then go to s21_ Early Medival modeling 2A01:5EC0:1803:52F0:1:0:5C56:972A (talk) 15:00, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This would be an original research, but ok anyways. Beshogur (talk) 15:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion

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Formal warning (WP:CT/A-A)

Hello Beshogur, as the definition of "revert" is still being disputed in the linked noticeboard thread, I have now formally logged the warning which can now be formally appealed if it seems unjustified. Best regards, ~ ToBeFree (talk) 18:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted change in Ottoman empire page

Hey @Beshogur! Why did you revert my changes? What is your justification for deleting my contribution? Nelsito Maduro (talk) 15:53, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]