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BasedMises_{Mont Pelerin} 16:57, 21 May 2021 (UTC)

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Speedy deletion nomination of Rick Peterson (Politician)

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Nomination of Rick Peterson (politician) for deletion

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McMatter ^(talk)/_(contrib) 00:59, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Okay, thanks Mcmatter BasedMises (talk) 01:38, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

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Hello. There was a recent sockpuppetry investigation that you were involved in. I have closed it without action, but I would like to ask you to note my comment here. Thanks and best, Blablubbs|talk 15:54, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

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May 2021

You have been blocked from editing for a period of 72 hours for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Drmies (talk) 02:29, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

• Please put your actual user name in your signature. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 02:31, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
• I have also blocked you from the Mises article and its talk page for three months. Please use that period wisely, to learn how to edit and to communicate. Drmies (talk) 02:36, 3 May 2021 (UTC)
  • That is reasonable. I already understand the basic manners you seem to hold as being above me and treating it as a false premonition; however, do keep in mind, I got extremely heated because I had already been doing this for 1-2 months now, trying to revert vandalism. 3 months is reasonable, although the "ban" on editing the entirety of Wikipedia is extremely short-sighted and naive. Could you also provide some insight on what to do in an edit war like this (I'm not exactly sure)
    • Yes. Walk away. I saw you had been doing this for a while and was on the verge of blocking you indefinitely. Walk away, ask for protection, ask for other editors to get involved, warn the other editor, bring them up on a noticeboard, report them at [{WP:ANEW]], any of those things--but you didn't, and now we have a hundred edits in this edit war clogging up the history. Good think you have other interests on Wikipedia: your opponent is blocked indefinitely, so I guess that ends the edit war, haha.

      If you browse around and look into these options I have summarized for you, you might indicate in an unblock request that next time you will know better what to do, and you might get unblocked. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 02:53, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks. Looking back at it, I should've kept my cool for much longer.

For the unblock request, I honestly don't care that much about editing Mises's page, because it was mainly about reverting the 1-2 months' worth of edits.

Next time probably be less angry and after 3-4 minutes of back and forth reverts I'll probably use the noticeboard you added. Thanks! (also, for signatures, does it have to be your username or is it just a thing that's followed? Can't find anything explicit) F. A. Hayek 03:00, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

(talk page watcher) Some people don't include their full username, but it's generally considered best practice, and per WP:CUSTOMSIG/P, A customised signature should make it easy to identify your username. What constitutes easy identification is probably open for at least some interpretation, but I'd recommend you just stick to "BasedMises" in the signature – it's far less confusing for others. -- Blablubbs|talk 09:27, 3 May 2021 (UTC)

Fixed your talk page archiving

Hi! I took the liberty of fixing the auto-archiving settings at the top of this page. --rchard2scout (talk) 06:48, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! M. Friedman^Mont Pelerin Society 14:19, 4 May 2021 (UTC)

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Permanent Income Hypothesis: Good Improvement

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		Good job improving the article on the Permanent Income Hypothesis Osaofwefj (talk) 19:11, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

Thanks! M. Friedman^Mont Pelerin Society 19:27, 6 May 2021 (UTC)

CNN controversies

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Okay. Thanks for letting me know. However, I don't believe in whitewashing doxxing. BasedMises^Mont Pelerin Society 02:07, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Well, that's just, like, your opinion, man. Our article discusses what some people claim about the incident, and discusses that other people disagree with that claim. For us to declare that one side of that argument is right and the other side is wrong, would require a clear and unambiguous consensus of reliable sources. If such sources exist, you're welcome to present them on the talk page. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 02:10, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

I would have to disagree in the same way that the legal definition of murder is murder. Thus CNN performed blackmail. I don't exactly like or dislike CNN, but it is fairly idiotic to presume that they did not blackmail the person. I also dislike the branding of it as "right-wing". Anyways, this is pointless. Next time I will make more reasonable changes and get a consensus on the talk page first. BasedMises^Mont Pelerin Society 02:22, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

We also can't describe something as a murder unless there was a conviction for murder. See, for example, Shooting of Trayvon Martin or Nicole Brown Simpson. While many people believe Trayvon Martin was murdered, the person who shot and killed Martin was acquitted at trial - therefore, we cannot label his death a murder, or his killer a murderer. NorthBySouthBaranof (talk) 02:26, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

Again, I do not want to get into a debate. Next time, I'll obtain consensus on the talk page. I certainly understand your concerns, especially because those who complain about CNN excessively tend to be vandals/etc. BasedMises^Mont Pelerin Society 02:28, 11 May 2021 (UTC)

"Prager Academical Institution" listed at Redirects for discussion

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Grover Furr is a maoist

Grover Furr is a maoist ok

not necessarily. He has written quite extensively on the Soviet Union, not The PRC. BasedMises^Mont Pelerin Society 03:39, 13 May 2021 (UTC)

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It is not my opinion. It is a fact. I will refrain from editing, as long as Wikipedia does not kowtow to the whitewashing of pseudo"history" that you are pushing. Thank you for the message. I will keep that in mind while filing my report. BasedMises^Mont Pelerin Society 23:26, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

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Okay. I did provide other sources, but I will remove Sputik and the Daily Mail. Thank you for the message! BasedMises_{Mont Pelerin} 00:21, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

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June 2021

Hi BasedMises! I noticed that you recently marked an edit as minor at Robert Reich that may not have been. "Minor edit" has a very specific definition on Wikipedia – it refers only to superficial edits that could never be the subject of a dispute, such as typo corrections or reverting obvious vandalism. Any edit that changes the meaning of an article is not a minor edit, even if it only concerns a single word. Please see Help:Minor edit for more information. Thank you. – wallyfromdilbert (talk) 22:33, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

I didn't think it would turn into a dispute, because he isn't an economist (eg. take this piece by the Krug https://slate.com/business/1996/10/economic-culture-wars.html) BasedMises_{Mont Pelerin} 22:44, 10 June 2021 (UTC)

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