User talk:AntiDionysius/Archives/2024/October


Royce white

please stop removing sourced content, you have been reported and hopefully you will be disciplined. either way you'll be asleep soon and your disruptive edits will cease. 104.129.191.26 (talk) 21:29, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Check your talk page. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:30, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
You also didn't report me, you reported the edit filter. Which was working correctly. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:31, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
no I reported both just so you're aware, and not was not working correctly unless you're referring to your own disruptive edits. 104.129.191.26 (talk) 21:33, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm not sure where you think you reported me, your edit history shows no such report, and nothing has been posted at either WP:AIV or WP:EWN. But alright. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:38, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
let's use this one! 104.129.191.26 (talk) 21:33, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
I am happy to talk here, I just thought you should be aware of the fact that you received no less than four warnings from two different users for three kinds of policy infraction. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:34, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
@104.129.191.26 There is a discussion about this issue on the article talk page which you are welcome to join. AntiDionysius (talk) 22:07, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

Peggy Cyphers article edit

Hi, I edited the Peggy Cyphers article on Tuesday, Oct 1, 2024. It was removed due to not citing reliable sources, but all sources that I cited were from news articles that mentioned the artist in question. Please replace the edit. The article has also been flagged as being written like an advertisement and including promotional content. All information that was added was at the request of the artist, and based on factual information. Cialre (talk) 17:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Some of it was cited, but not all of it; and many of the sources were not news articles, they were the artist's own website, which is not what Wikipedia considers a reliable source. And yes, a lot of it was very much written like an advertisement - a problem which is probably related to the fact that it was written "at the request of the artist". If you are acting on the behalf of Peggy Cyphers, you have what Wikipedia calls a conflict of interest, and thus should not be editing the article directly. Please read the conflict of interest policy before proceeding. AntiDionysius (talk) 20:52, 3 October 2024 (UTC)

Opinion.

Hi Anti! I wanted your brutal opinion on the draft I'm working to approve. Draft:Corisande de Gramont. Hectorvector27 04:06, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi there, the reference states 10 April 2008. I think the new user is correct in changing it? Knitsey (talk) 14:33, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Oh okay, I'll change it back. Thanks for flagging! AntiDionysius (talk) 14:35, 7 October 2024 (UTC)
No problem! Knitsey (talk) 14:59, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

2.6B views Meghan Trainor - All About That Bass (Official Video)

as of September 2024.. GOD BLESS 190.10.199.23 (talk) 00:51, 25 September 2024 (UTC) if you go to the page.. this is what it reads... so nobody made an update since October 2015....as for the DATA ON YOUTUBE Views ---- this is what it reads on the page.... As of October 2015, "All About That Bass" was the only debut single by any artist to accumulate a billion views on YouTube. just trying to make it more modern 2.6B views Meghan Trainor - All About That Bass (Official Video)

I got you a digital cookie,,. thank so much for telling me on the edit ... enjoy the digital cookie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meghan_Trainor

maybe someone can make an edit that can unlock the LOCK on the page listed

imagine that 2.6billion views... just trying to update the data

2.6B views Meghan Trainor - All About That Bass (Official Video)

Oct. 2015 is the last time it was updated...

again.. thanks so so much.. and enjoy the Digital cookie AND A VIRTUAL lemonade

correct khmer-Javanese word etymology

That is the the correct word etymology of Loy Kanthong. reliable academic dictionary is the source. Loy krathong is the Thai pronoucation of the Khmer word Loy Kanthong. Loy kantong ritual is on the bas relief of Angkor Thom temple located in Cambodia. Its origin is Khmer-Javanese Hindu ritual. SEAlang is a collaborative effort between CRCL and the University of Wisconsin-Madison Center for Southeast Asian Studies (CSEAS) https://sealang.net/khmer/search.pl?dict=khmer&hasFocus=orth&approx=&orth=+%E1%9E%9B%E1%9E%99%E1%9E%80%E1%9E%93%E1%9F%92%E1%9E%91%E1%9F%84%E1%9E%84&phone=&def=&anon=on&matchEntry=any&matchLength=word&matchPosition=any&source=&ety=&pos=&usage=&subject=&useTags=1 174.164.30.163 (talk) 11:31, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

reference 18, 20, and 31 on Loy Krathong page also supports Khmer-Javanese word as correct etymology 174.164.30.163 (talk) 11:39, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

WP:CSD#U5 reminder

Hi, I saw that you tagged Draft:YearlyArtical for speedy deletion as U5 and G11. Just as a friendly reminder, U5 only applies to pages in user space and is not applicable to draft space. The page turned out to be copyvio, though, so I deleted it anyway. Cheers, Complex/Rational 21:18, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the reminder! I believe in this case the creating user moved it between the tag and the deletion, hense the misalignment of tags, but I appreciate you getting it anyway. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:33, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

I was about to revert then...

Come and ask you about Orange Pi. You have a good memory, I'm sure I've seen them before? Knitsey (talk) 20:07, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

They were certainly editing as 79.175.80.211 (talk · contribs) a little while ago, but I don't know that I know them from any previous occasion - not off the top of my head anyway. AntiDionysius (talk) 20:09, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
OK, thanks for checking. Knitsey (talk) 20:13, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

A kitten for you!

hi. thank u for warning me about my bad behaviour im sorry. here kitten for show appreciation and i also want to thank u for using your free time to expand the access for free knowladge irish boy <3

VojvodinaLinuxUser (talk) 20:35, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Information icon There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.

164.47.225.1 (talk) 21:01, 12 October 2024 (UTC)

Revert

Sorry for the revert at AIV, thought you reverted me instead of the other IP user. Cheers. 62.74.24.237 (talk) 23:37, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

No prob, misclicks happen! AntiDionysius (talk) 23:38, 13 October 2024 (UTC)

Probably best to open a ticket on wp:EWN. I would, but need to sign off. Keep up the good work! Cheers Adakiko (talk) 19:35, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Already reported them at WP:AIV, but EWN may be more appropriate. Thanks, take care! AntiDionysius (talk) 19:36, 14 October 2024 (UTC)

Editing "Jayant Udgaonkar"

Hi @AntiDionysius. Referring to your comment about vandalism on Jayant B. Udgaonkar, it is to clarify that the edits are essential information aimed at prospective students joining IISER Pune, the institute that the person in question is affiliated to. The edits in question are NOT defamatory or vandalist, as you have infered, and are approved by the ethics committee of the Institute. The information added now is deemed essential for future students planning to join Dr. Udgaonkar's lab and to prevent future harassment and sexual exploitation of students. Acetyl-CoA35 (talk) 05:21, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Elaine Parent

Stop reverting my edit; I already replied to you on my page and the information I am using is in the documentary which is already cited on the page. 2607:FEA8:FE40:7E69:15D4:F7C6:C357:1138 (talk) 23:44, 15 October 2024 (UTC)

Confirmation and Information

Hello, I am currently new to Wikipedia and is trying to help in weather-related topics. Could you please explain to me why my recent edit was not approved. I noticed your message and was confused; any information would be appreciated. Thank you! BoppySillyMcGoof (talk) 00:15, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Hey, I noticed that I didn't add a site, is that the problem? BoppySillyMcGoof (talk) 00:16, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Partly the issue was the lack of a source, yes. The other issue was the use of the word "inevitably" - we try to avoid evaluative language like that on Wikipedia, generally speaking. Thanks. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:18, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Oh, I have come across that problem before, would you be interested on referring my information to a site as I am not familiar with creating sites. If I were to redo my information without evaluative language, would it be accepted? Again, I just want to help. Thanks! BoppySillyMcGoof (talk) 00:22, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
What do you mean by creating sites? AntiDionysius (talk) 00:23, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Source, sorry, I misspelled. Anyways, would it still be accepted without the use of evaluative language such as the word,"inevitably"? BoppySillyMcGoof (talk) 00:27, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
My space bar won't work, (word, "inevitably"?). BoppySillyMcGoof (talk) 00:28, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
It probably would, yes. As for sourcing, there is a simple guide to referencing for beginners here. It's not too hard, and I suggest that you give it a try as it is a key skill for Wikipedia editing. AntiDionysius (talk) 00:29, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Okay, thanks! I am going to revert my edits but with some changes. Have a good rest of your day! BoppySillyMcGoof (talk) 00:30, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
Thanks, you too! AntiDionysius (talk) 00:37, 16 October 2024 (UTC)

Tropical Cyclone Update

So, Tropical Depression Fifteen is on the loose and I created a new article all about it! Feel free to edit it when this storm progresses. BoppySillyMcGoof (talk) 01:26, 19 October 2024 (UTC)

Administrator Elections: Candidate instructions

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Paul Desmond

Despite your assertion, the category is not supported by the article text. Paul Desmond's paternal heritage is merely speculative. Merely supplying a book title does not provide proof of heritage. 2601:547:CB00:3D40:C4AA:8517:9872:F0E1 (talk) 23:19, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

The article text says "Fred Barton, songwriter/arranger and Desmond's cousin, found extensive genealogical proof that both the Breitenfeld and Löwy families were Bohemian Jews." That text more than supports the category. If you think the problem is that the text is wrong, I would suggest getting a discussion going on the talk page and getting consensus for its alteration or removal, but while the the text is as it currently is, there is no reason to remove the category. AntiDionysius (talk) 23:22, 20 October 2024 (UTC)
It's not that I think the text is wrong, however; I don't think it is right, either. The point is, the assertion is unproven and isn't proven simply because someone cites a book title that we're to take on faith backs the claim. Nonsense. Absent the type of genealogical proof typically required to establish family lineage, there is every reason to remove the text until a time when a more detailed description of proof can be added to the text. My personal research on this topic indicated that Barton's conclusions were purely speculative, an educated guess, hedging his bet. Additionally, conveniently left out of the article is the fact that there are many Breitenfelds and Lowys in the region who aren't Jewish. Are we to assume there was no possibility of musical knowledge in those lines? Even Desmond's immediate family wasn't sure about the topic, nor did they didn't observe the traditions. I realize that proves nothing either, however, it does raise important questions. Until the time that Barton's "proof" can be shown to be unassailable, there should at least be room for a dissenting opinion, without the category added.
A talk page can be useful, providing there is interest and a desire to determine facts. The chances of that happening in an article about a sideman from a defunct assemble that played a musical form of an increasingly low-level of interest are slim to none, wouldn't you agree? So the article will remain sub-par, as is, in this regard. 2601:547:CB00:3D40:C4AA:8517:9872:F0E1 (talk) 00:52, 21 October 2024 (UTC)
Wikipedia doesn't require "unassailable" proof. It just reflects what reliable sources say. Additionally, your own research on the topic cannot, by Wikipedia policy, weigh into the discussion. So yeah, a citation to a book is plenty. And as long as that citation is there, the category can be too.
There's plenty of room for dissenting opinion. That room is on the article talk page. You would be better off making your case there rather than on my user page. AntiDionysius (talk) 01:14, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Our Admin Election Test

Hello there. As we're preparing to move from one stage to the next, this is just a quick note from one member of the test group to another, wishing you well in the process of this new alternative to RfA. It seems that there are more of us in this group than some in the community anticipated, so i hope that doesn't make the experience any the worse for all of us. Whatever our individual results, i thank you, along with the rest, for stepping up and testing this process; happy days, ~ LindsayHello 07:16, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, it's much appreciated. Wishing you all the best in the coming days/weeks too! AntiDionysius (talk) 12:20, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Backyard Sports Talk Page

Hey, AntiDionysius! I'm sorry about deleting content without explanation. The "Characters" section was just a suggestion I typed a while back before I had a fuller understanding of Wikipedia's morals. The responses to that suggestion are also from me because I was so anxious to get a response that I pretended to be someone else to respond (IP editors' addresses change every day). Anyway, that suggestion doesn't really need to be deleted, and I promise that I won't try to do it again. :) 74.132.195.94 (talk) 22:29, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Also, about "Humongous Sports", that was a section I created because I have noticed that when you start Backyard Baseball 2001 or Backyard Soccer: MLS Edition, along with Humongous Entertainment's logo, there is a logo of a website called "Humongous Sports", which was Backyard Sports' website during the time of Baseball 2001 and Soccer MLS's releases. I just wanted people to know this. 74.132.195.94 (talk) 22:38, 21 October 2024 (UTC)

Your answer to my question

And excellent answer. I, too, have wondered more than once if we should propose "post-2016 United Kingdom politics and personalities" as a CTOP (Brexit brought out the crazy, as you no doubt perceived more acutely from where you were, in the front rows, while I watched from the upper decks).

I would also be supportive of "far-right politics", although it's mostly edit-warring about whether someone or some organization really is far-right. I mean, we can say we're just using the term because reliable sources do, and that lets us off the hook as far as our own policies go, but ... I have to ask: By what standards do those reliable sources distinguish someone as "far-right" from conservatives in general? It would seems to me that "far-right" is taken to mean anyone whose ideology includes strongly nationalist/populist/racialist components, even at the expense of the free market, as a primary ingredient.

But too many writers for our reliable sources seem to just throw it around for "any popular conservative person or organization I don't like" (In this respect I think some of the many IPs whose edit wars have forced pages into protection have a splinter of a point, just maybe not the one they think they have). This just raises so many issues for me:

  • It seems lately we are describing so many people and groups as "far-right" that we might be better off distinguishing people as "near-right" (or the more common "center-right"), since that would appear to no longer be the norm.
  • It's worth remembering that 60 years ago, Barry Goldwater was described as, effectively, "far-right" by the standards of his time for his extreme anti-New Deal libertarian politics. Yet by the 1980s he was more in the center of the Republican Party without really having changed his positions too much, and by the time he died it was increasingly obvious that he wasn't happy with the direction the party was taking post-Reagan (I can only imagine what he'd be saying if he were alive now). Are there any libertarian politicians, pundits or groups today we'd describe as "far-right" purely on the basis of their positions on that?
  • Do we describe anyone as just far-left? That article delineates a general category of ideologies generally linked by a rejection of free-market capitalism as having any place in the economy. But in practice we generally describe people or organizations aligned with those ideologies by those specific terms (which makes sense in some ways, as the Popular Front era notwithstanding the three ideologies most exemplified there—anarchism, communism and socialism—are often in conflict with each other). Yet we treat the far right as if any distinctions among their positions were too unimportant to mention.

Oh well. Just some thoughts I keep having. Daniel Case (talk) 02:49, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Ah, thank you. I broadly agree with you on all of this (especially on Brexit bringing out the crazies). There was a time when journalists seemed unwilling to use the term "far-right" even to describe people/parties to whom it patently did apply but now they seem to be overcorrecting and it's become imprecise. And it is true that "far-left" does not get used nearly as frequently, something I've seen brought up in discussions from time to time. As you say, we can (and should) fall back on the "what do the sources say" test in all these cases but as long as the sources themselves continue to be much-less-than-perfect in their approach I presume the arguments, and probably the edit warring, will continue - which is an argument for a CTOPS designation of some kind.
The argument against it is that, in my experience, disruptive editing on this topic tends to be concentrated among unregistered and very new SPAs; editors with more tenure and good faith newbies are usually able to talk about it productively enough. If we're talking primarily about drive-by disruption, a CTOPS designation is arguably unnecessary. But oh, I don't know. AntiDionysius (talk) 12:01, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Delete without feedback

Dear AntiDionysius, you asked me to write you here about a topic, but now apparently you asked for deletion of these comments. Honestly, a feedback about why you did would be appreciated as I just did what you asked me to do. Thanks AyubuZimbale (talk) 16:09, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

(talk page stalker) I'm assuming you are referring to you're recent comments on this user talk page. AntiDionysius (probably) didn't request for these comments to be removed, they apear to have been removed due to involving the israel arab conflict, which requires you to be extended confirmed to make any edits related to it, other than edit requests. Courtisy ping @ScottishFinnishRadish: GrayStorm(Complaints Dept.|My Contribs.) 16:18, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Ok, thank you for the clarification. I am not yet an expert in Wikipedia. AyubuZimbale (talk) 16:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
I'm sorry that you ended up in such a fraught area for your first edits. Much of the encyclopedia isn't mired in the additional rules and regulations. I suggest you spend some time editing on less controversial topics to get a feel for things. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:38, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
Echoing this sentiment @AyubuZimbale; though this kicked off with us having a slight disagreement over the content of the article, I didn't intend for it to turn into a big issue. I hope it's all cleared up for you now and that you'll stick around Wikipedia. AntiDionysius (talk) 19:58, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

Hi AntiDionysius, why? 🙂 ~ ToBeFree (talk) 16:50, 24 October 2024 (UTC)

That is a....good question. I'm not wholly sure. I think I must have been looking at the wrong set of revisions before I hit rollback, or something like that. Apologies. AntiDionysius (talk) 19:56, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
No worries! ~ ToBeFree (talk) 08:58, 25 October 2024 (UTC)

Editing Pattern

AntiDionysius what!? So far as I'm aware I've made one revert on one page to do with Stuart Campbell. How can you suggest that's a pattern? Or do some of my other contributions have a connection I'm unaware of? 82.11.195.62 (talk) 21:34, 27 October 2024 (UTC)82.11.195.62 (talk) 21:36, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

The context made it appear, to me, to be a question worth asking. It's not a sanction or a warning or anything, just a question. AntiDionysius (talk) 21:46, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
In that case I apologize, it reads as such. No, I'm not in contact with any other editor, and I don't use any other account. 82.11.195.62 (talk) 21:49, 27 October 2024 (UTC)
Okay, thanks for clarifying! AntiDionysius (talk) 21:49, 27 October 2024 (UTC)

BTW some of the anon edits have been correct, though uncited. I am working on updating the article using this citation. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 20:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Ah, I did a brief look for sources (since I thought there was a good chance the anons were judt being over-eager) but couldn't find anything, for some reason. I'll stop bothering to revert, then; I presume you can just push your update over any edits that are made in the mean time. Thanks! AntiDionysius (talk) 20:05, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
Yep. Got it done, hopefully that will quell the tide of the well-intended (but understandably MOS-ignorant) stampede. --Chris | Crazycomputers (talk) 20:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

Edit warring

Kindly desist from edit warring on my entry. You are supposed to engage in discussion on the article Talk page and have repeatedly refused to do so. Reverend Stuart Campbell (talk) 23:33, 28 October 2024 (UTC)

 

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