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Well it appears between this and these that someone isn't very happy. The removals in question still violate WP:3RR because she removed part of the material that I restored (this would specifically apply to the part stating whether in whole or in part—counts as a revert). I'm about ready to file a notice at WP:AN/3RR but want to make sure I am correct before I do? TheDoctorWho(talk)09:07, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@TheDoctorWho: According to guidelines you are correct because that would technically be the 5th revert within a span of 24 hours and I think you have tried everything you can to resolve the issue so if you feel that the next step would be to file a notice at WP:AN/3RR would be appropriate then you should be okay just don't revert the editor anymore or you too would be in violation of policy as well. I would go the WP:AN/3RR route and leave thier edit alone for now while the dispute is ongoing. ♪♫Alucard16♫♪09:14, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Thank you for responding to the edit request. Since Legacy of the Wizard is staying in the article after all, a small change would need to be done for the "Publisher" of that game.
"Nihon Game" would need to be changed to either "Namco" (the publisher of that version in Japan) and/or "Broderbund" (the publisher of that same version in North America). I don't have a preference for either Namco or Broderbund, and I'm also fine with the inclusion of both as long as Nihon Falcom is removed as publisher (Falcom is the copyright holder but did not published that version of the game in Japan or North America).
I guess I could have entered another edit request. But with a waiting time of nearly a month for my original edit request to be responded, I'd figure it would be be easier if I came directly to you since the request is quite simply and you are already aware about the page. Thanks in advance. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.24.124.252 (talk) 09:01, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Done@70.24.124.252: Updated, no worries sorry it took over a month to get it done that has bit of a backlog and I just started to help out there. Video games is one of my area of interests so if you ever need to enter another video game related edit request I'll be on the look out. Happy editing! ♪♫Alucard16♫♪09:15, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
JoJo Siwa
Thank you for adding the information to JoJo Siwas page. I made more additions that need added. I will continue to add additional information as it comes available. If possible, please do correct her mothers name/spelling. It is Jessalynn. www.itsjojosiwa.com official celebrity web page
KLHam01 (talk) 19:12, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@KLHam01: Your welcome glad to help! I went back and checked the sources and the spelling of her mother's name was misspelled in the article I went back and corrected it. Biographies are not my area of expertise but I try to help out where I can. Please be sure to use {{edit semi-protected}} when requesting information to be added to the article in the event someone else might get to it before me. Also once your account is at least four days old and you've made at least ten edits to Wikipedia you will be able to edit JoJo Siwa. ♪♫Alucard16♫♪19:36, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
A barnstar for you!
The Original Barnstar
Very accurate and responsive. Your hard work in providing accurate and updated content to Wikipedia is appreciated by all users! KLHam01 (talk) 19:15, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hello. Name of seasons are currently messed. There can't be both "Big Brother (Swedish season 5)" and "Big Brother 2011" independently. I seen "Big Brother 2012" name on Big Brother website but couldn't confirm it's official name and I don't know about 2011 and 2015 edition. Eurohunter (talk) 21:35, 7 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Eurohunter: The article title of Big Brother (Country season #) is a standard disambiguation guideline for article naming outlined at WP:TVSEASON that should be followed unless there is a consensus for an exception. This does not mean that it is the official name of that season. Some good examples of this would be The Apprentice (U.S. TV series) and The Celebrity Apprentice. NBC doesn't consider The Celebrity Apprentice a spin-off but a continuation of The Apprentice. So if you go from season six (regular Apprentice) to season seven (Celebrity Apprentice) you'll notice the article titles stay consistent but for the Celebrity seasons the article's lead will clarify the correct title.
In the case of most non-English Big Brother series like the Swedish version these articles seem to be lacking in reliable sources when compared to their English counterparts. This makes figuring out the exact naming of each season hard now with the age of the show and even harder when it changes TV networks. This is also why your seeing some information not matching up correctly like Big Brother (Swedish season 6) is the article title while the lead says "Big Brother 2012 is the eighth series of the Swedish version of the reality television series, Big Brother." The main issue here is it looks like some editors are counting the joint editions in the total number of Swedish seasons is the only thing I can think of but its something I haven't had time to research properly. I hope this explanation helps clears some questions up. ♪♫Alucard16♫♪17:24, 8 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Hello. We had an interaction earlier this month (as seen above on your talk page) and told me I could come to you if I had another request regarding this semi-protected page.
On the "Fate" section of the page's infobox, it says the following:
"Bankruptcy, trademark and intellectual property acquired by Compile Heart,..."
While not totally wrong, that statement is still incorrect. Compile Heart signed in 2010 a long term licensing deal with D4 Enterprise to produce new games on Compile's franchises. D4 never anything sold anything outright to Compile Heart; just licensing the Compile IPs to Compile Heart. I think some people (particularly in the west) gave more weight to this deal than it deserves.
Would it be possible for you to replace in the "Fate" section, "Compile Heart" for "D4 Enterprise". Note that I don't have any opinion about Compile Heart remaining in the "Successor" field and will leave that decision to you. But the "Fate" section should not give a false impression that Compile Heart is the actual copyright/trademark owner of the old Compile properties when it is not. Specifying the details about the 2010 deal between D4 and compile Heart would be fine for the text section but too much for the infobox. Which is why I would just mention D4 (and Sega) in the "Fate" section though Compile Heart can stay in the "Sucessor" field. Thanks
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Doneיניב הורון I just skimmed quickly through the reference but it seemed good to me. I corrected the reference the best I could normally I just deal with TV series, films and games lol. ♪♫Alucard16♫♪13:55, 23 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
You don’t understand what you’re saying. The current article says:
“The sale would exclude YES Network, which airs New York Yankees, Brooklyn Nets, and the New York Giants and Jets games, that could end up back under full control of the Yankees baseball club, which owns a 20 percent stake, as the Yankees and a sovereign wealth fund have submitted bids for the YES Network.”
The source says:
“New York’s YES Network, which airs New York Yankees, Brooklyn Nets and New York City Football Club games, could end up back under full control of the Yankees baseball club, which owns a 20 percent stake. The Yankees and a sovereign wealth fund have submitted bids for the network, CNBC said.”
I don’t agree with you merging on template big brother into season template why are you doing that it doesn’t make any sense pelase take it off. Please say no I beg you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.205.198.217 (talk) 21:55, 5 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@213.205.198.217: I'm not merging them I just simply proposed the idea to the community and other Big Brother editors for discussion because a similar template was recently deleted that was very similar to the three Big Brother templates. If the consensus is to merge then as the nom I will help implement the change however there needs to be a consensus first. If there is no consensus or a consensus to keep then the templates stay as they are. This way is better than having a non-Big Brother editor propose their absolute deletion and all Big Brother articles are left with a generic infobox while other reality shows have a custom infobox. I am not going to rescind the proposal however its better to see how it plays out. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?02:10, 6 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
User:Alucard 16 whatever your name is I think it’s better to leave it as I think the housemates status of how many days are better off at the top not in a table in the housemates table ie Bigg Boss i think I have said my reasons and you can’t change it please leave it I am begging you don’t disrupt with ur bad ideas.comment added by 213.205.198.144 (talk) 09:28, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Done with review @Khestwol: no major issues I did notice beside the line "Tahir was laid to rest in Hayatabad, Peshawar." the source didn't specify "Hayatabad" as the exact location however I did find a source that was used in the article that did and I went ahead and placed it by that line. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?17:11, 7 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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@213.205.198.148 and 109.150.219.227: (I'm not sure which IP I'm talking to here) IP I'm not an admin so I have no power to block or protect anything however for Bigg Boss 11 I reinstated two sections because they are used on other pages without issue. However they maybe challenged and removed in the future because they are poorly sourced and need more reliable sources to ensure verifiability. I did not restore the sections for other Bigg Boss articles because in the edit summaries editors cited that they were poorly sourced. If you would like the page in question to be protected please request that at WP:RFPP. For reporting users to administrators due to vandalism please see WP:AVI for any other reason please see WP:ANI. However in my own honest opinion I honestly don't see anything that 2k32k did wrong that would warrant a block in relation to Bigg Boss (Hindi season 11). I'm gonna ping @2k32k: so they know about this btw. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?18:43, 8 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Thanks TheDoctorWho! That's a big help! I think Oenix2nd said they would get Pinoy Big Brother. I honestly don't forsee it to be a hard change to implement regardless of format used more of a long tedious change since {{Big Brother endgame}} is used on over 300+ articles. I've looked at several different versions and it seems like a straightforward change to implement. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?03:15, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
I created a sandbox so that I could go ahead and begin. Quick question I thought of as I was going through some of these, should the infobox be using "houseguest" as for example list of articles use or "HouseGuest" as actually used throughout the article including episode summaries? TheDoctorWho(talk)03:50, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@TheDoctorWho: Actually I have been thinking about that and I honestly for the articles I think we should adopt the current way CBS, Global, the press and the production team uses the term which is "Houseguests" [1][2][3] As far as the infobox module goes the lowercase "housemates" and "houseguests" should be used instead as that seems to be the preferred Manual of Style in general for infoboxes. A good example would be {{Infobox television Survivor}} which has "castaways" all lowercase in the infobox. For the special prizes like AFJ and AFH I think it should be formatted as "America's Favorite Juror" and "America's Favorite Houseguest" respectively since those are proper titles. Also for BB:OTT we shouldn't have filming dates since that aired live (unless you planned on removing them then ignore this last comment lol). Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?04:06, 11 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Now that this has been closed we should be about ready to implement the changes. But before we do, the module should be moved to the template space correct? Also, if it helps you, I'm watching your talk page now so you don't need to ping me every time . TheDoctorWho(talk)01:00, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks I left a message on Gonnym's talk page about the result of the discussion. I would recommend waiting on him to get the new module sorted and working just in case it required a change is to {{Infobox television season}} to work and that one is template protected and he has the rights to edit those. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?01:06, 14 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Basically what Alucard 16 said. Per [MOS:DONTHIDE]] content on Wikipedia content pages should not be hidden by default. If you were asking for the BB sidebar template, then that is an even bigger issue, as sidebars "infobox" don't appear for mobile users. --Gonnym (talk) 08:38, 7 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Farmen articles/Big Brother endgame templates
Is there a date where the big brother endgame template will be discontinued? I understand why it's being done, I just need to know when the deletion of the endgame template will happen around. Cheers. --Nintenga (talk) 22:49, 11 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just to add/correct Alucard here. The TfD discussion has no provisions of first moving the missing data from the endgame template to the article table, however since Alucard and others are actively doing so, we are doing it slowly. If at any point this process stops, the changing of the template can be completed in a day with a simple operation. So basically, if you are using that template on any article, you should replace it. --Gonnym (talk) 10:51, 12 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
BB templates
Is anyone else but you replacing the infobox for Big Brother? If no one is working, there is no reason to wait for the info to be converted to a table, as that isn't part of the requirement of the TfD outcome. As long as the old template still exists, people will keep reverting to it. --Gonnym (talk) 19:17, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonnym: I know defiantly TheDoctorWho is converting the American and English Canadian articles to the new infobox and table. I have seen Oenix2nd working on converting Pinoy Big Brother articles. A675974811 has been converting other editions no one has discussed like the German, Russian, etc. Each of them seem to be converting the Days/Results into a table as they go along with no reverts that I can see. The only article that has been a problem has been Gran Hermano VIP (season 6) which was converted while it was in progress and supposed to be using Template:Big Brother housemates. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?23:27, 4 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Just a quick update, all U.S. articles have new HouseGuests tables except for CBB1 which I'll take care of now. I've done a few of them but NintendoGeek has done the rest. As far as the Infoboxes all seasons except for 1-5 have them and I plan on taking care of those later tonight. TheDoctorWho(talk)01:20, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! @Gonnym: ah that seems to be the exception to the rule for now. I haven't seen much issue with the implementation except at Gran Hermano VIP (season 6). Other than those two pages it seems the transition is going smoothly from what I can tell. I haven't seen any issues with the Celebrity Big Brother UK series 1-7 articles I moved over to the new template. After these next two days of work IRL I will be able to wrap up the British articles pretty quickly so all will look uniform then finish Gran Hermano as well. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?11:41, 5 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I think it looks good but its a bit weird seeing the premier/finale dates at the end but I guess that is how the template is set up. I think you possibly opened up another can of worms for reality TV series that use a custom overview table. @Gonnym: your the WP:TV template expert here what do you think of this idea and how its implemented on Big Brother (U.S. TV series)? It does bring reality unscripted shows like this in line with their scripted counterparts. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?08:44, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Looks great. It's always better to get a consistent style going across all related articles, that way if a need arises, it can be better evaluated to see how many pages need it. --Gonnym (talk) 10:53, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I believe so in situations like the UK version it automatically done when the values are entered correctly. In cases like the US version they have to be manually entered because the US disambiguation is not standard but still the US infobox titles has to match the article title for the italicize feature to work properly. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?11:08, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
I have changed a few of the U.S. infobox titles and the italics still work even though I did it using the same as the UK infoboxes MSalmon (talk) 11:14, 6 January 2019 (UTC).[reply]
@Msalmon: I've actually noticed the infobox title issue also and was going to raise it in the next few days over at the infobox, once I implement my current sandbox changes. For some reason, the title was implemented with all the disambiguation which just doesn't look good (and shouldn't be connected to how the prev/next work). I'll ping this conversation when I start it so you can comment there. --Gonnym (talk) 11:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Msalmon: I see what you mean with the infobox now hump will wait to see what Gonnym has up his sleeve on this as I'm perplexed. However for the main series for the American adaptation the season articles are named based on their WP:COMMONNAME for seasons 9, 11-present and for their actual names for seasons 1-8 and 10.
From my understanding infobox title at least should say Big Brother # for all the main series seasons for consistency. Like I pointed out in the RM even CBS goes back at times and reverts to calling seasons 11-20 by the old naming standard. So the naming Big Brother # is also correct for seasons 11-20 even though their logos omit the number. Season 20 was very evident of this where production used the name Big Brother 20 in a variety of ways last year.
The celebrity series was moved on a technicality basis and could see another possible move after the second season premiers to see how CBS and the production team handles this season as far as naming goes since the WP:COMMONNAME that applies to the main season articles won't necessarily apply to the celebrity articles (unless the press all calls it Celebrity Big Brother 2 and it is the most searched term for the season). There just isn't enough information after 1 season airs to determine a proper naming convention and after the first celebrity season experienced three moves on its name alone I didn't feel like sending it through another RM to rename it Celebrity Big Brother (U.S. season 1) just to have CBS do something totally left field and add the number back to the logo on January 21st which would have triggered another RM while the second season was in progress. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?12:13, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonnym: For the American version only in Big Brother 1 (U.S. season) and Big Brother: Over the Top is where the viewers vote for who they want to evict. Our regular format is the Housemates vote to evict their own and decide the winner themselves. If a Housemate voluntarily leaves or is removed late in the season then the viewing public gets 1 vote to win in the final to fill the missing spot like in Big Brother 11 (U.S. season). The English Canadian version has adopted our standard format and follows our rules for the most part. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?11:12, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Alucard 16: oh, that makes sense now. The Israeli version is the only one I know and the public is the only one who votes. The US version then must have a very different dynamic and tactics, as here they play on what the public wants and could care less if other houseguests like them or not. --Gonnym (talk) 11:18, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Gonnym: A lot of the international versions like the Israeli version is modeled off the British adaptation which makes sense cause the British adaptation was like that as well. A lot of other international versions like the Serbian and Bulgarian series has gone so far to reuse the British logos and opening credits. The American version changed format starting with the our second season because the original format didn't work out so well here. CBS brought in new producers and they re-tooled it to be like Survivor in a house with live feeds. In the American version we do get to vote for our favorite Housemate at the end to win a smaller prize than the winner and runner-up. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?11:28, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
A lot of times what happens in the Israeli version is that one or more houseguests just stop participating in what they don't want to because they know the public likes them, so they keep getting nominated by other members, but never voted off. It creates very boring TV. --Gonnym (talk) 11:32, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That has happened in the British version as well. That's one of the reasons our format changed after season one was due to the viewers voting out all the exciting houseguests when they were up for eviction leaving the not so exciting ones. Sometimes our format though can be less than exciting like when everyone wants to vote with the houseguest that is the Head of Household or all vote the same person out. It gets boring when they don't want to upset the one in power that week lol. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?12:13, 6 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Nice, I wasn't sure what templates replaced those. So we've officially got rid of BB and Survivor templates. Now just some after-move cleanups. --Gonnym (talk) 09:14, 16 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hey. I tried to email you, but you haven't enabled it. I just wanted to let you know that you might have exposed some pii when trying to make a specific edit. I'm not going into detail in case this was a mistake and you want it oversighted, but if you want to email me I can show you where --DannyS712 (talk) 22:55, 25 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: Simply put I was unaware that enwiki had a bot that performs this work automatically. I was just following the post-move instructions about clean-up which instructed to check "What links here" and fix them. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?21:11, 30 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Big Brother Infoboxe starring parameter
Have we thought about adding the HouseGuests names in the starring parameter in the Infoboxes? I mean technically they're "starring" in the season.
I don't think that it's too bad with 12 HGs but it could get rather lengthy in a regular season when 12 becomes 17 and all the other parameters are filled out.
Well tbh the majority of reality shows don't use this field and with Big Brother there have been seasons with close to 60 Housemates (like the fifth German season) and the Philippines tends to have an estimate of 25-35 per season now where they do multiple batches. For seasons with 20+ Housemates this would make the infobox too long also the field could be a source of edit warring. Instead of editors following the guidelines which is to list them in the order they are credited (easy for BBUSA/CAN) or alphabetically for versions where this doesn't exist (BBUK). I can see editors warring by trying to use this field as a status update. Rearranging them based on when they left the House, putting "(Evicted)" beside their name, etc. One of the things that can be done is move the "HouseGuest" section to the top then have production, episodes, voting history and reception. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?20:16, 1 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Hi, this user - Hullaballoo Wolfowitz removed housemates' "Secret" from "Format" section, says that they were "unsourced and laced with garbage". Secret is one of a major twist on BBA5. I added the housemates' profile page on the official site as the source (like BB Israel wiki usually did), which their profile each contained their Secret. But the user removed again, says cut-and-paste copyvios. I don't exactly know what that means, and why it was removed again after I added the sources. --A675974811 (talk) 1:24, 19 February 2019 (UTC+8)
Hi, this is regarding change in Advertisement page. All I am requesting is to add citation suggested by me. I am very new to Wikipedia and catching up how editing works. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hiten Jha (talk • contribs) 12:32, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Ah okay just making sure thanks for the quick reply! Welcome to Wikipedia I hope you enjoy editing here ! I'll re-review the edit request here in a bit. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?12:38, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Done I added the sources to the article Hiten Jha. In the future to keep a discussion in one place please reply at the article talk page. You can use {{Ping|<user name>}} to ping the editor your replying to and they will get a notice by the system. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat?12:53, 7 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I have left a message on the CBB USA talk page about the infobox, feel free to have a look and tell me what you think. MSalmon (talk) 09:54, 21 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]
