Note the "What to see in Etnedal muncipality, this seems to be a logical place to add pictures (check out this with the other wikipedians)
The old stories about the knights in Sør-Aurdal and in Vang, should it be done something about them? (Ridderspranget)
What about logging, fløtning (floating??? :D) etc..
A note about Vassfaret? What about the places in there?
My list of postal codes for each muncipality, is it usefull for anything?
At Gol stave church (the replica) there is a major turist trap (The Medival Park) with some interesting stuff ;/
Meteor crater at Nesbyen, what is this? Sounds cool.
I have some images from Läckö Castle, upload them if anyone writes an article
Local places
I have the necessary data to generate a list of places within a muncipality. This would be a list of the places with an assigned postal code and an estimate of the size.
This wouldn't work out for all places. Larger cities are subdivided in areas with their own postal code and postal place. I'm not sure if I can always mark such ares within a city.
Probably it would be best to build a list with a script and add each subsection manually to each muncipality.
Famous residents
I've made some bots to generate lists of authors, musicians and others. Those could make lists of the same persons for the famous residents in the muncipalities. The only thing necessary to do this is to invert the person names into muncipality names.
Probably I need a bot to get them out of my article base also. And I'm not quite sure if I always has a basic category, ie I may have an oboist which isn't a musician.
Also, if I do this I have to automate the update process somehow. A person moving doesn't create a problem but when a musician writes a book all enlistments should change.
The list would contain about 1200 norwegian persons within the category art on the list of Norwegians, estimated to reach 2500-3000 when completed.
Before I do this there should be some consencus that this is in fact something wanted.
A more limited list is Kunstnere — next on list Einar (Halfdan) Berger
Please accept my apologies if I've in any way offended (the comment on spelling was intended to be critical of my own spelling as I went back to correct it)! The materials & photos you’ve added are great. They add a great deal to the appreciation of the area, which is important for those of us who have not yet visited it.
Rock carvings at Møllerstufossen, more than 6000 years oldMain house Halmrast, Nordre Land museum, ca 1700
Part of my comment was that with either the Firefox or the Netscape browser (as implemented on my older machine) , the Nordre Land photos wind up on the lower right hand side, way down under the Infobox. Hard for me on my browser to see there – I have to scroll down over a blank region. That’s why I made a change – but I’ll defer to your (the contributor’s) judgment as to what is best.
Perhaps you’d consider something like what is shown here? One image on the left and one image shown on the right.
No problem, I simply hasn't given it a thought! I belive the layout should be adapted as people see it fits when more text is added to the pages.
And when it comes to the language, spellig and so forth, .. I add the facts and the story about the places and some other must figure out the correct grammer! :)
An other thing, I don't have photos of all the places but if you or someone else drops me a note I could take the time to take a couple of images. Most of the time it won't be high quality high res as it takes to much time fumbling with my Zeiss, even if that produce great picture quality.
The photos I've posted is mostly snapshots with a Minolta digital.
You must live in the area, if you are so kind as to offer to take photos! Almost any photo in any municipality in Oppland or adjacent Hedmark or ___ would be great. The ones you've just been adding make it a great pleasure to go back over the various municipalities. You and your Minolta digital do a very good job indeed. Thanks!
Etnedal does not get mention in any of the resources I have here in the states. I 'borrowed' eveything of interest about it on the German and Norsk Wiki pages, so can't add anything now.
Your suggestion on articles about WWII in Valdres is not anything I can help with immediately either. But the comment does point out the value of connecting the various articles by citing the Landscape they fall into, since manyof the histories follow the landscape designation rather than the current politicaql designation. I may pursue that next.
I live in Valdres and works in Oslo. I'll take a look, just tell me what you want.
Etnedal is a small place really. Of the more interesting things from Etnedal is an author which have written a lot of bucks about the weird people living there. I wonder if it would be possible to use something from him. He is deceased a long time ago.
When it comes to WWII I've have an idea which includes a friend which do know a lot about it.
The coat of arms from Sør-Aurdal is a combination of the archs on the stave churches and of a box with some bones of a saint. I belive it is Olav Trygvason but I'm not sure.
The coat of arms from Nordre Land is two fløtningshaker, a tool used during fløtning.. What is that in english.. :O
You ask, "The coat of arms from Nordre Land is two fløtningshaker, a tool used during fløtning. What is that in english?"
Not going to find 'fløtningshaker' in Haugen's Norwegian English Dictionary. But when I was a kid in Minnesota, we used "Cant Hooks" & "Peavies" for rolling timber & breaking up log jams (like hay saws, you don't see them except in museums anymore). The actual tool in the Nordre Land coat of arms looks somewhat different than either of these tools, but a "Cant Hook" is probably a reasonably accurate translation which older Americans will understand.
this shows a map for the individual muncipalities with some additional information.
On Fjord, Vatn, Sjø. This is old words and have changed meaning over the years. Basically, a Fjord is a big lake which is narrow and long. Often located along the costline but not always, Randsfjorden is in the inland while Vestfjorden is outside Bodø and goes all the way out to Lofoten.
A lake called Vatn is small, imagine something where you stroll along and goes fishing. I slightly remember someone once said you walk around a Vatn in a couple of hours while you walk around a fjord in a couple of days while you grumble over how fast it would be to cross.
A Sjø is large but not narrow as a fjord. It is not often used as a name on a lake, most often as an reference to the ocean. Examples of lakes are Vannsjø (Råde, Østfold)..
Then Mjøsa pops up quite often on big lakes. Mjøsa as the one big lake betveen Gjøvik-Lillehammer-Hamar is one but you have also others like Vangsmjøsa (Vang, Oppland) and Møsvann Vinje, Telemark.
Fjord, Vatn, Sjø
Excellent explanation of Fjord, Vatn, Sjø. Hadn't realized mjøsa was a separate term in its own right, as opposed to a specific lake.
And my misplacing Gjøvik reaffrims the need to have my contributions carefully proofed.
I don't know why mjøsa pops up in a number of places, I think you must get a proper explanation of that from a lingvisist Agtfjott08:09, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Kulturnett.no
I placed the Delete template because there was nothing there of import when you created it. Further, if there's a Deletion Request, it's not supposed to be removed until it's been checked over by an admin. That being said, I still see nothing of import there; it's relatively unclear as to what Kulturnett is, as well as what "Links to the mapping service in Wikipedia is by permission" means. Kulturnett could be a source for Wikipedia but anything would be required to be licensed under the GFDL as well as be translated into English. Is that possible? RasputinAXP talk * contribs18:13, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The page contains links to an article with an example, Vågå. I was writing the article when the marker was placed and I either had to revert my edit or re-add the marker on the new page, which I see no point in doing as there was no explanation why it was added in the first place.
I'm in contact with the bureau about using more info from them and I guess it will be clearer what kind of copyleft/-right they want to use. If I should guess it is more likely they use a creative commons than GFDL.
Unfortunately I seem to recall Kulturnett.no shows up only if you are a resident of Norway. It has been discussed several times on Norway List, and, if memory serves, other maps are preferred. Couldn’t get to it on either of the machines I tried today. Hope someone corrects me, but… Williamborg
I make a note about it and talk to them, it wasn't sometning my contact person was aware of. Wouldn't be the first place I run into this, stupid as it is. Several of the major norwegian isp's run from abroad so blocking on ip-addresses isn't very likely to work out anyhow. Agtfjott08:06, 24 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Whatever you (or someone) did, Kulturnett.no comes through nicely now.
You might also suggest to Kulturnett.no that they encourage local municipalities to contribute photos of their regions to the Wikipedia Commons. It is amazing how much better any article is if someone has posted photographs or maps.
Have been in contact with Bagn Bygdesamling at earlyer occasions and they are willing to contribute if possible.
Hadeland Folkemuseum
One nice lady working at Hadeland Folkemuseum want to contribute if she gets time.
I'll set up a basic page with a few photos.
Valdres Folkemuseum
Wasn't anyone off the staff at Valdres Folkemuseum when I visited but one of the guides contributed an info booklet about the museum.
The stave churches
Added a couple of missing churches. Added also some text but it is better to write something a bit more consistent
than what it would be as I shuttled back and forth adding missing pieces. I did not add anything if the original article would be radically changed in structure.
Added linking from the muncipalities to the churches. A bit confusing as some referer to the muncipality while other referers to local villages. One even used a muncipality which was merged.
The names are now according to what I belive is the correct local name. Hopefully this doesn't clash with some rules defined somewhere I don't know of. No articles are moved, it is only the leading in the article which is changed. Still the name from the link will be prominent so I don't think this leads to any confusion.
Hello! The only reason that I changed the name in the text was to make it consistent with the article's title (and I changed the Norwegian name to lowercase because that's how it is in the Norwegian Wikipedia and in the external article). The articles should all be consistent, but I don't know know whether that should be the Norwegian or the English names. I suppose that, as this is the English Wikipedia, the English form should be preferred, especially as it's unlikely that one could argue that the Norwegian form is the more common among English-speakers. How many articles are there? --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης)08:45, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It's about 30 articles, depending on wetter I want to write something about churches which is more or less rebuilt or not. They are all listed in stave churches. Even Riksantikvaren, the authority in Norway thats in charge messes with the names. Flesberg Stavkirke uses one form in the header of the document and an other within the body text. I don't thing it matters to much.
It is a description of the church, the same time it is also a name of the church. Probably we can go for whatever we choose. Agtfjott08:52, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Not sure I understand the naming issue here, but...
We do have a naming convention for Norwegian places names in the English Wiki. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Norway which states: "For administrative units and geographical entities, the official Norwegian name [1] is used for the article, with redirects for English names when known. There is no reason to invent new English names."
As to "it's unlikely that one could argue that the Norwegian form is the more common among English-speakers." Actually, I cna make a rather compelling argument to that effect. If one checks guide books written in English these days, they use the Norwegian spellings (even the modern Baedeker's has moved to this convention although historically it Anglicized). Its only the older material that has Anglicized the names, and you can find 3-4 variations of a particular place name in older English literature (One of my favorite examples is Vågå , which appears as Vaaga, Vaagaa, Vaage, Waaga, & Vaga in various older English books. ). So this provides a pretty good reason to stick with the Norwegian spelling unless there is a compelling English usage. Williamborg14:12, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I belive an article as short as Grip stave church isn't very usefull. An example of what I want to do is something like Reinli stave church. It is part of a collection of articles related to muncipalities in Valdres. My idea was to start filling in some information and pictures, especially the churches, museums and archeological sites. Perhaps also a bit about nature. Agtfjott09:10, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The sources under external links should be of pretty good quality. Insted of linking to articles, it seems like the url's was very fragile, I linked to the site as such. This means it is necessary to navigate a bit to find the english page (top-right corner) and then click on the actual church. It seems so obious I prefered this to a very-very long and potential fragile url.
Agtfjott18:47, 25 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry 'bout that. I didn't realize you had several similar articles as works in progress. Hang tight and I'll restore it. Thanks for letting me know. Best, Lucky 6.921:49, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds good. It looks like you have your work cut out for you! This is quite an undertaking and I apologize once more for pulling the trigger on that Tinglestad article. I wish you well with it. - Lucky 6.921:55, 27 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Please see question under Williamborg about stone church article. Takk.
Arsoning and vandalism of Churches in Norway become a serious problem in the last years of 20th century. After nearly a millenia paganism grows in some closed groups, most notably around some music groups, and one of the most prominent ones are fronted by Varg Vikernes.
Many of the churches in Norway now has automatic fire extinguishers and survailance systems, some even have regular guards on patrol.
Arsoning by year
The lists are incomplete.
1992
Røa church in Oslo; attemted arsoning during easter
May, Storetveit church in Bergen, attempted arsoning in the church tower, Varg Vikernes, later tried and convicted for the arsoning, two other youths at trial and awaits sentences
June 5, Fantoft stave church outside Bergen burns to the ground. The private owned church had no automatic fire extinguisher or survailance system. The fire ignites a debat in the newspapers about security measures for the remaining churches. Later Varg Vikernes is put at trial and convicted by the judges but dismissed by the jurors, – the judges refuses to do anything about it as Vikernes already has maximum sentence in Norway
August 1, Revheim church in Stavanger is totally destroyed by arsoning after two young boys break in and makes a camp fire on the altar. The boys are 15 and 17 years old and the reason behind is assumed to be satanism. Later a third boy is also conected to the arsoning.
September 13, Skjold church in Vindafjord in Ryfylke burns to the ground. The police conclusion is that the fire starts after a lightning strike. Later the conclusion is revoked and Varg Vikernes is put at trial and convicted of arsoning, together with a 19 years old man from Nesodden which gets a verdict of 16 months imprisonment
September, Ormøya church in Oslo, attempted arsoning, some damages, a youth put on trial
September/October, Chapel at Kolbotn sanctuary in Oppegård, attempted arsoning, same youth as in the Ormøya case
October 3, Hauketo and Prinsdal church, arsoning and partially destroyed, the same youth as in the Ormøya case
December 24, Åsane church outside Bergen is totally destroyed by fire. The police indicates the fire could be arsonning. Later two men, one is Varg Vikernes, is put at trial and convicted of arsoning
December 25, The Methodistchurch in Sarpsborg burns. During fire extingushing a fireman dies.
It is estimated that the net loss in the fires exceeds NOK80 million
1993
January 15, The goverment "vedtar å bevilge" NOK7 million in 1993 to immidiate safty measures. This is the beginning a program over several years also covering chuches from the medieval period and wooden churches form the 17th century and 18th century
March, Methodist church in Hammerfest; a youth confessed he had put a boy scout flag on fire, the altar piece, (prekestol) and a piano was destroyed in the fire
April, Myre church at Øksnes in Nordland; attempted arsoning, guardians stopped the fire before the church got serious damage
May, Adventist church on Jeløya outside Moss; attempted arsoning, a man confessed after short time and he and another man is put to trial
Chapel at Bodø sanctuary i Bodø; two young boys have confessed to arsoning of the chapel, which got serious damages
September, Røa church in Oslo; attempted arsoning by puting two garbage cans on fire besides the church, without any success
1992
Jun 5, Fantoft stavkirke ved Bergen brenner ned. Den privateide kirken var uten brannvarslingsanlegg. Brannen starter en avisdebatt der kravet om bedre sikring av de 28 gjenværende stavkirker kommer både fra kirkelige, kommunale og statlige myndigheter.
Aug 1 Revheim kirke ved Stavanger totalskades av en brann som starter ved at unggutter bryter seg inn og tenner bål på kirkens alter. Guttene i 15-17 års alderen antas å være inspirert av satandyrking. Et kors fra en gravstøtte utenfor kirken ble i dagene før brannen plassert opp-ned utvendig på kirkeveggen.
Aug 23 Holmenkollen kapell i Ris prestegjeld i Oslo brenner ned. Politiets etterforskning konkluderer senere med at brannen ikke var påsatt, men startet ved en feil i kapellets elektriske anlegg. (hva var bakgrunnen for konklusjonene?)
Sep 13 Skjold kirke i Vindafjord i Ryfylke brenner ned. Den 105 år gamle kirken er den femte som brenner ned i Norge på under ett år. Etterforskningen kommer til at lynnedslag er brannårsak.
Okt 3 Hauketo kirke i Nordstrand prestegjeld i Oslo brenner ned.
Des 24 Åsane kirke ved Bergen totalskades av brann. Politiet antyder at brannen som totalskadet kirken fra 1600-tallet, kan være påsatt.
Des 25 Metodistkirken i Sarpsborg brenner. Under slukking av brannen omkommer en røykdykker fra brannvesenet i byen.
Røa church in Oslo; attemted arsoning during easter
Storetveit church in Bergen: attempted arsoning in the church tower in mai, Varg Vikernes, — The count, tried and convicted for the arsoning, two other youths at trial and awaits sentences (status?)
Revheim kirke i Stavanger: ble antent i august. Store skader på selve kirkebygget, mesteparten av inventaret ødelagt. Tre unggutter innrømmet forholdet, og er senere dømt for det.
Holmenkollen chapel in Oslo; brant ned til grunnen etter ildspåsettelse i august. To menn, deriblant Varg Vikernes, dømt for å ha vært med på antenne brannen.
Skjold kirke i Vindafjord, Rogaland: nedbrent etter påsatt brann i september. Varg Vikernes dømt for medvirkning eller for å ha påtent kirken.
Ormøya kirke på Ormøya i Oslo: branntilløp i september. Noen skader. Påtent. En ungdom siktet i saken.
Kolbotn gravkapell i Oppegård: påtent september/oktober, men brant ikke ned. Samme ungdom siktet som i Ormøya-saken.
Hauketo og Prinsdal kirke: påtent i oktober. Kirken ble helt utbrent innvendig, og større deler av takkonstruksjon ble totalskadd. Samme ungdom som er siktet for de to foregående brannene også siktet for denne brannen.
Åsane kirke i Bergen: totalskadd i brann natt til julaften. Påsatt. Varg Vikernes dømt for ildspåsettelse. En annen mann har tilstått medvirkning, venter på dom i saken.
Methodist church in Sarpsborg; a fireman died during (slokkingen) of the burning church night to 25th of december, and the church burnt down
1993
Methodist church in Hammerfest; a youth confessed in march he had put a boy scout flag on fire, the altar piece, (prekestol) and a piano was destroyed in the fire
Myre church at Øksnes in Nordland; attempt to arson in april, guardians stopped the fire before the church got serious damage
Adventist church on Jeløya outside Moss; attempted arsoning in may, a man (tilsto) after short time and another man is (siktet) together with him
Chapel at Bodø sanctuary i Bodø; two young boys have confessed to arsoning of the chapel, which got serious damages
Røa church in Oslo; attempted arsoning in september by puting two garbage cans on fire besides the church, without any success
Jan 15 Regjeringen vedtar å bevilge sju millioner kroner i 1993 til brannsikring av eldre kirker. Pengene er starten på et fler-årig sikringsarbeid som omfatter middelalderkirker og trekirker fra 1600- og 1700-tallet.
Apr 21 Det blir kjent at kirkebrannene i 1992 representerer et verditap på minst 80 millioner kroner.
1994
Mar 13 Sund kirke på Sotra i Bjørgvin bispedømme brenner ned til grunnen. Brannårsak ukjent.
Mar 27 Seegård kirke i Snertingdal i Hamar bispedømme brenner ned. Ingen naturlig brannårsak.
- Seegård church in Snertingdal north of Gjøvik; on fire during easter, none taken for arsoning
Åmot chapel in Modum, Buskerud; four youngsters on trial for arsoning may 17, an old altar piece destroyed
The new replica of Gol stave church in Buskerud; a man was cought on spot trying to arson the building the night before May 17
Frogn church in Akershus; on fire the night to June 4th, the police works on a hypothesis it was arsoned
May 16 En 21-åring - den såkalte "Greven" - dømmes i Eidsivating lagmannsrett til 21 års fengsel for overlagt drap, innbrudd, tyverier og kirkebrannene i Holmenkollen kapell i Oslo, Skjold kirke i Vindafjord og Åsane kirke i Bergen.
May 16 Råbygget til Gol stavkirke i Tunsberg bispedømme blir forsøkt påtent. 21-årig blir seinere dømt.
May 17 Åmot kapell i Modum i Tunsberg bispedømme blir forsøkt påtent. Altertavlen blir ødelagt, mens kirkebygget ikke skades. En 17-åring blir seinere dømt.
Jun 3 Mosjøen bedehus i Sør-Hålogaland bispedømme blir totalskadd av brann. Ikke ildspåsettelse.
Jun 4 Frogn kirke i Borg bispedømme brenner ned til grunnen. Brannen er trolig påsatt. Uoppklart.
Jun 6 Aftenposten melder at Riksantikvaren foreslår omfattende sikringstiltak for 400 eldre kirkebygg for 160-200 millioner kroner.
Jun 19 Heni kirke i Gjerdrum i Borg bispedømme blir påtent. Forbipasserende får varslet og slukker brannen. 17-åring tilstår.
Jun 28 En 19-årig Notodden-mann dømmes til 16 måneders ubetinget fengsel for å ha medvirket til påtenningen av Skjold kirke. Fra før er en 21-åring dømt for blant annet å ha tent på kirken.
Jun 30 En 23-år gammel mann fra Bergen dømmes til tre års fengsel for medvirkning til brenningen av Åsane kirke natt til julaften 1992.
Jul 7 Jeløy kirke ved Moss i Borg bispedømme blir påtent. Store brann- og vannskader. Brannen oppklares.
Jul 10 En ny stavkirke vigsles av biskop Sigurd Osberg i Gol i Hallingdal. Det er den første stavkirke som er bygd i Norge på 800 år. Kirken er laget som en kopi av gamle Gol stavkirke, som ble flyttet til Norsk Folkemuseum på Bygdøy for over 100 år siden.
Jul 21 Odda kirke i Bjørgvin bispedømme påtent utvendig. Sotskader. Ukjent gjerningsmann.
Aug 13 Løkken kapell i Meldal i Nidaros bispedømme blir forsøkt påtent, men brannen slokner av seg selv før skaden er for stor. En 20-åring tilstår like etter.
Aug 29 En 17-åring fra Gjerdrum varetektfengsles mistenkt for å stå bak brannen i Heni kirke i Akershus. Politiet arresterte først tre 17-åringer fra black metal-miljøet.
Aug 30 En 21-årig bergenser dømmes til to år og en måneds fengsel for å ha tent på den da ikke ferdigbygde Gol stavkirke natt til 17. mai 1994.
Des 10 Åkra gamle kirke forsøkes påtent med en lighter og en stabel salmebøker. Kirken får bare mindre skader. En 26-årig mann tilstår. Han er tidligere dømt for ildspåsettelser.
Des 22 Askim kirke i Borg bispedømme forsøkes påtent.
Des 26 Klemetsrud kirke i Oslo bispedømme forsøkes påtent. En eksplosjonsartet brann ødelegger bårehuset inntil kirken.
1995
Mai 14 En 27-årig mann anholdes mistenkt for å ha satt fyr på kapellet ved Herre kirke i Telemark 13.mai. Kapellet blir totalskadd i brannen.
Mai 25 Såner kirke i Vestby i Borg bispedømme brenner ned til grunnen. Brannen er påtent.
Jun 14 Moe kirke i Sandefjord brenner ned til grunnen. Brannårsaken ukjent. Kirkens eies av Det Evangelisk Lutherske Kirkesamfunn.
Jul 21 Eidanger kirke i Agder bispedømme forsøkes påtent. To unge menn pågripes. Funn tyder på satanist-inspirerte motiver.
Aug 21 Tre personer fra Porsgrunn dømmes til fengsel fra 10 måneder til ett år for å ha påtent Eidanger kirke i Agder bispedømme.
Aug 30 En 16-åring får i Moss byrett betinget fengsel i ni måneder for å ha tent på Jeløy kirke i Borg 7.juli 1994. Det er første gang en kirkebrannstifter får betinget fengsel. En 17-åring får seks måneders ubetinget og 12 måneders betinget fengsel for samme forhold.
Sep 3 Vågsbygd kirke i Agder forsøkes påtent, men brannvesenet kommer raskt til å hindrer spredning. Skadene begrenser seg til en utbrent dør. En mann siktes for ildspåsettelse noen dager etter.
Nov 5 Den nye Hauketo/Prinsdal kirke i Oslo vigsles av biskop Andreas Aarflot. Menigheten har vært uten kirke siden den tidligere kirken gikk tapt i en påsatt brann i 1992. Kirken har koster 12,5 millioner kroner.
1997
Feb 27 Jelsa kirke i Suldal- en 350 år gammel trekirke - blir forsøkt påtent, men brannen slukker av seg selv uten å gjøre skade.
Aug 24 Fantoft stavkirke i Bergen vigsles av biskop Ole D. Hagesæther. - fem år etter brannen som la kirken i ruiner.
Apr 10 Songe bedehus i Tvedestrand brenner ned til grunnen. Det er mistanke om at bannen er påsatt.
Apr 15 En 23 år gammel mann varetektsfengsles for medvirkning til brannen i Frogn kirke i 1994 og i Såner kirke i 1995, begge i Borg bispedømme. Fra før er to kvinner på 19 og 23 år siktet for kirkebrannene.
Mai 12 80 gravstøtter veltes på Lårdal kirkegård i Vest-Telemark. Flere jernkors blir også snudd opp-ned. En mann i 20-årene melder seg etter kort tid til politiet og tilstår.
Sep 21 Førde kirke i Sunnfjord blir påtent, men brannen blir raskt slukket og kirken får bare mindre skader. En 20-åring tilstår få dager etter at han tente på og veltet 50-60 gravstøtter.
Sep 22 Natt til søndag blir 155 gravstøtter veltet på Norderhov kirkegård i Tunsberg bispedømme.Det tegnes også satanistsymboler på den gamle middelalderkirken. To 16 og 17 år gamle gutter tilstår et par dager etter.
Sep 28 Veldre kirke i Hamar bispedømme brenner ned til grunnen. Kirken er 270 år og uerstattelige verdier går tapt.Det er ikke mistanke om påtenning. Elektrisk feil er mulig brannårsak.
Okt 6 Jeløy kirke i Moss påtennes igjen, men bare takkledningen blir brannskadet. Kirken har to ganger tidligere blitt forsøkt nedbrent.
Okt 19 130 gravstøtter veltes på gravplassen ved Skålvik kapell i Fjell på Sotra.
Hi Agtfjott. Although I have a strong feeling I know you're referring to an image, I'm afraid you've failed to mention which one.
First of all, just so you know, I'm currently sorting through a lot of unsourced images.
Second, which image is it you're referring to?
and thirdly, my standard edit summary is "rmvd deleted image" and hopefully I would have put that on the article page you're thinking of, but I won't know unless you tell me which one?
Hi Agtfjott. I certainly agree that the picture should be included. The problem was that the article looked very cramped and, dare I say, unprofessional. I am all for re-including the drawing when the article grows a little larger (I have been meaning to translate your and Nina's new text from no:, but I haven't had a lot of free time this past week). I removed the drawing as it closely resembles the photograph, which I tend to prefer as a leading image as it better depicts the church's size and place to those who have not visited it. Rje01:19, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
It would be greate to have one on the team that is a bit more fluent in english! The general idea is to write articles about some of the medieval buildings in Norway, but we're all a bit short on time for the project! — John Erling Blad (jeb) 01:28, 15 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hopperstad stave church
Hi John. I am a little rushed at the moment (I am preparing for a seminar I have tomorrow), but I will give the article's language a quick going over. I should finish my work in a couple of hours, I will translate the new stuff from no: then if you or Nina do not do it first. If I cannot do it tonight, I will do it tomorrow evening. Thanks for telling me. Rje20:45, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Great picture of Etnedal's old stone bridge Lundebru, Northern Europe's largest stone-arch bridge. I've been waiting for this one! Thanks Williamborg03:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've had it for some time but I've been lazy and buzzy with the norwegian wiki. The norwegian stave church articles also have became pretty decent. no:User:Nina is doing a greate job! For a long time the english articles was much better then the norwegian, couldn't have that! ;) — John Erling Blad (no) 04:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Dude, we have 30,000 Untagged images, any one of which could be a copyright violation serious enough to get Wikipedia into legal trouble - we don't know because nobody has looked at them. We're not even keeping up with the flood of incoming copyright violations, and you want me to go slower on cleaning up after people who should have followed instructions in the first place? Come on over and try tagging a few hundred yourself, you'll get a better feel for the scale of our problem. Stan14:42, 27 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy deletion
Speedy deletion is acted upon on 7 days. Adding that tag at image pages uploaded by students during holidays will most likely get the image deleted before they come back and finds the note. Please do NOT mark images for speedy deletion unless you check the user page!
OrphanBot does not mark images for deletion. All it does is remove them from any articles they're in, and notify the uploader. --Carnildo04:57, 28 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Naming Norwegian traditional Districts, Lakes, Rivers & . . .
I found a question on User talk:Wiglafs discussion page about this church, added by you. The correct reading of "and it is often classified as a stave church" is more like "and the palisade walls are often classified as remnants of a stave church". This to is wrong if you use a Norwegian description of a stave church. It is although right if you use a Swedish definition of a stave church.
The background is, in Sweden a stave church is a church with standing planks in the wall while in Norway a stave church is specific construction with standing staves (pillars) on top of a wooden frame. Sometimes scholars in Sweden uses risverkskyrka to avoid the confusion. In all there are three different constructions, probably with a lot of transitional forms. A palisade construction, a construction with earth bound posts and a construction with posts on top of a wooden frame. To make the situation even more unclear a palisade construction can be partly lifted from the ground and set on a wooden frame.
Especially churches with earth bound posts can be easily spotted during an archaeological survey and a palisade construction were all or parts of the walls are set in gravel. Such buildings are detected all over Europe, and according to Leif Anker "Europe are covered in post holes from Italy to Norway". As he says, "it is more interesting to investigate why the stave churches survived in Norway then to try to see them as a Norwegian-only phenomenon".
Sure. Not a topic I know anything about, so it will be an interesting excercise. Unfortunately it's too late tonight and I'll be out of the country for a week starting early tommorrow - but I'll do it when I get back. Williamborg06:24, 1 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the images you are contributing to Wikipedia. It makes such a difference to have articles illustrated so well. TheGrappler22:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]
It is to much to do! But perhaps. Why not Williamborg as admin at no.wiki? Seems like you are quite active! :D
Seems like we are going to have a lot to do in the next weeks, Jimbo is coming to Bergen. The rumors are out and our main problem is, we could run out of space because we allready have indications we could pass 300 attendants, and our auditorium only takes 300..
Articles which parallel a Norwegian Wikipeda series on Lists of farms in Oppland have been proposed for deletion no: Kategori:Lister over gårder i Oppland. I believe that such material has both historical and genealogical value, but as always will support the position of the Wikimajority. If you have an opinion for or against deletion, I’d appreciate your commentary on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lists of farms in Oppland. You’re welcome either in favor or against deletion. Tusen takk - Williamborg 9. mai 2006 kl.02:54 (UTC)
I very much appreciated your thoughtful comments on Lister over gårder i Oppland. By themselves, your comment served to help formulate what is unique about Norwegian farms—and they are significantly diferent from farms in the USA. Since the articles survived, albeit barely, they will be strengthened by using your information in the articles, as will a number of the thoughts expressed by others.
It has always been a pleasure working with you. Your constructive approach makes it so.
I sort of expected the articles to be deleted. Interesting. I think the arguments holds for most farms but I'm not sure. Another thing is that «gardsnummer» not always depicting the original farm. perhaps it would be better to make a parallell project for genealogy and the history of the farms. That way the articles could be bigger yet without interfering with Wikipedias rules about vanity. — John Erling Blad (no) 03:09, 16 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Would that I had been there for the Syttende Mai celebrations. Was in Ballard, but Ballard is not what is used to be—used to be you couldn't swing a dead cat without hitting a Norwegian—now your lucky to see a dozen in an hour.
Kunne du tenke deg å ta en tur over på Samfunnshuset på nynorsk? Noen av oss er dritlei de samme vandalene omigjen og omigjen. Et forslag om Tor-blokkering o.l. møter ingen motstand, kanskje du kan komme med teknisk bistand? --Ekko17:47, 14 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Your talk page over there must be semi-protected, because I couldn't leave a message there. I was able to successfully login to the usurped account. Thanks again! --Kyoko22:13, 16 April 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Global login
Hello, I am an administrator on Polish Wikipedia. I would like to use the opportunity to have a global login, however there is a username conflict on Norwegian Wikipedia. I would like to usurp the account name "Monopol" which I use globally. Regards, Monopol (talk) 14:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"So called biography"?
Dear John, in this edit you removed quote "slander from a so called biography". This "so called biography" is the largest biographical project in recent norwegian literature, published on a well respected publishing house, and with equally respected sponsors. Furthermore, it is (AFAIK) written in agreement with the royal houses of Norway, Denmark and England. It is fair reason to doubt wheter this bit of information should be in an article about Guy_Francis_Laking, but there is no reason to discredit the biography, the author, or to descibe his open hypothesis as "slander". Best wishes --Orland (talk) 15:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Its a CC-by-sa license. Attribution should be done where attribution is necessary (or usual). I don't think attribution would be necessary (or usual) on a front page. — John Erling Blad (no) 08:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Bureaucrat action for my SUL on no.wikipedia.org
Hello Jeblad,
Could you please rename the User:Plyd from no.wikipedia.org so I can merge my SUL account please ?
The Plyd account has no contribution on this wiki.
I wrote a global request there. Thank you for your help! Plyd✉17:12, 24 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
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User page redirect the wrong way around
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