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I see you've been blasted by vandals on Wikipedia.
The Purple Barnstar
Hi, and thank you for your contribs. We appreciate them a lot, and when vandals hate you, it's a sign that you're doing something right! I hope you continue your contributions and make Wikipedia a better place. Thank you! Firestar464 (talk) 01:34, 3 December 2020 (UTC)
Could you explain why you removed reliable sources?
Could you please explain why you removed reliable sources and a court-proven hearing on the page of Kanhaiya Kumar?
You removed the entire controversy section on November 4. Some of the content was there for months without any accusation. For refrence. Imaniward (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 21:28, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
Heba although I respect most of your work,the citation of Arun Sinha given on bhumihar and Kayasthas is just a opinion. These pages are one of the most vandalised pages and giving a mere opinion is not worthy. Kindly give a second thought and please be more respectful toward these communities. Please don’t take this personally. Shakibkhan Shakib khan1985 (talk) 13:23, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Mam I don’t know which book you’re referring to but on a social level in Bihar these communities lie generally between Rajputs and Brahmins. Both of these communities follow all Brahmincal traditions too like upnayana and various samskara. Anyways you’re a smart person,but please I request you to have more wide perspective on these issues. I would like you to have discussion on these caste if you agree. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 14:28, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
I agree dear...and this is reflected in the article too that they got recognition as upper caste due to wealth and education. But traditionally their varna status is not Kshatriya and Brahman. In fact peasant caste like Kurmi koeri and Yadav also claim Kshatriya status linking themselves with Krishna and Ram.Heba Aisha (talk) 14:31, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
This source also mentions that some of the British censuses recorded them as Shudra. There are many other source on article which agrees that they seek to increase their ritual position by petitioning to British authorities. Heba Aisha (talk) 14:38, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Similarly, Kayastha were also Shudra before 1947 as this source specifies:
(index)108. Buchanan, Bihar and Patna, 1811–1812, 1:329–39; (pg)Bhagvan Prasad’s ministrations reflected his own personal interpretation of the social mandate implicit in the religious message of Ramanand. However, Ramanandi ambivalence toward caste emerged in discussions about the prescribed stages of a sadhu’s entry into the sampraday. In his biography of Bhagvan Prasad, Sahay expressed the view that originally anyone (including untouchables) could have become Ramanandi sadhus, but that by his time (the early 1900s), “Ramanandis bring disciples from only those jatis from whom water can be taken.”[107] For those designated shudra by the elite, this phrase, “from whom water can be taken,” was a common enough euphemism for a person of “pure shudra” status, with whom restricted physical contact could be made. From the elite perspective, such physical contact would have occurred in the course of consuming goods and services common in everyday life; the designation “pure shudra” implied a substantial body of “impure”—hence untouchable—people with whom physical contact was both unnecessary and improper. Buchanan, in the early nineteenth century, had included in the term “pure shudra” the well-known designations of Kayasth, Koiri, Kurmi, Kahar, Goala, Dhanuk (archers, cultivators, palanquin bearers), Halwai (sweets vendor), Mali (flower gardener), Barai (cultivator and vendor of betel-leaf), Sonar (goldsmith), Kandu (grain parcher), and Gareri (blanket weavers and shepherds).
Sis Buchanan also mentioned bhumihars as Magadhi Brahmin and wrote about there high status in his account of Bhagalpur and Patna district . Jeffery wistoe link is also given in present Wikipedia page of bhumihars. Believe me I went through all British account about bhumihars and none of them classified bhumihars as shudras although few of them considered bhumihars as a separate caste. Please go through all important British documents yourself. Arun Kumar and wistoe didn’t elaborate which clearly imply that it was a fast opinion. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 15:09, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Topic of bhumihars and Kayasthas have been debated since a long time on wikipedia. I would like if a learned editor like you must consider a first hand proof not just a mere opinions. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 15:13, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Mam as far as I know Kayasthas are non cohesive groups. I went through Buchanan accounts and it appear to me like he was only talking about Karan and Bengali Kayasthas.So kindly apply those edits on these two specific pages Shakib khan1985 (talk) 15:19, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
What I can see from above mentioned sources, I shared as quote. Yes it's not clear wat their varna status are and if you read Kayasth article both sides are mentioned. The sources that classified them as twice born is also mentioned. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:37, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Read properly, these lines
and the final British Raj law case involving their varna in 1926 determined them to be Kshatriya.
, it is from Kayastha article and another similar line is there too, which says that they are also recognised as twice born.
1901 Bihar census, Kayasthas of the area were classified along with Brahmins and Rajputs in Bihar as “other castes of twice-born rank”
Hmm..... I think you’re right on Kayasthas part but I went through 11 documents from 1809( first work on these isssue from Buchanan) to 1900 on bhumihars and none of them considered them as shudras. There assigned status was unanimously as a dwija. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 16:54, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
For readers I think we should provide more authentic citations.I would further like you to revert the recent changes on bhumihar page with the Jeffery wistoe citations. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 16:57, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
see the book I mentioned above also census of british era fall in category of WP:Primary if caste assignment is considered. We need some writer to interpret it and this book has interpreted that they were Shudra in earlier census.Heba Aisha (talk) 16:58, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
In 1889, Bhumihar Brahman sabha were formed to advance Bhumihar claim of Brahman status- culminating in official title "Bhumihar Brahman"- after the colonial census also categorised them as Shudra.
Mam...plz understand my point. I am saying there was no colonial census that classified bhumihars as shudras.The bhumihar Brahmin Mahasabha was formed because bhumihars were classified just as ambiguous upper dwija caste and they wanted the Brahmin status which we can discuss further. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:20, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
The book you’re referring to hasn’t provided any reference and is just a fast opinion. A book written with no elaboration on such topics could be clearly wrong. Hope you understand my point. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
After the ma sherring reference about bhumihars they were considered as separate caste in behar and as Brahmins in united province of Agra and oudh Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:24, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
first of all I haven't added the content that say : British era census considered them Shudra. And there are many parts in article which State, what changes you want. ex: They follow three of six ceremonies followed by Brahmans and present socio-political status are all covered. The source explicitly says, wat is written in quote above.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Regarding source: We couldn't find better source then it coz it is from University of Chicago,even administrators couldn't remove that. Heba Aisha (talk) 17:32, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
The author Jeffery witsoe have mentioned all the matters he was doubtful about and pages 206 and 208 have been cleverly omitted from the reference. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 17:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Use help me template on Article's talk page to attract the attention of administrators. And explain them changes you want.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:54, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Shakib khan1985, Heba Aisha, please continue your discussion. One point that is common about both these groups is that they may not be uniform i.e what applies to Bihar may not apply to Bengal. Please be as narrow as possible when talking about the varna of these groups (from example bhumihars of UP, Bhumihars of Bihar etc.). From what I understand the sources specifically mention Bihar. LukeEmily (talk) 18:25, 6 December 2020 (UTC)(talk page watcher)
Bhumihars of up and bihar are completely same. All i am saying that there is no primary source which classified bhumihars as shudras. Almost all editors have taken it on there ego that they can write anything without going through british census. I found heba as a respected member to be approached but you guys are so stern that you don't wantbanother perspective. I am a sociology student at du pursuing my masters. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 19:33, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
I went through all records in my library about bhumihars and kayasthas(all) and found it important to correct the article as much as possible but you guys are clearly not understanding my point. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 19:36, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Shakib khan1985, Please can you provide some opposing sources? Currently the information for both Kayastha/Bhumiyar of Bihar seems well sourced. I do not know what Arun Sinha's qualifications are but if he is a modern historian or Anthropologist then he can be considered WP:HISTRWThanks LukeEmily (talk) 19:44, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Arun sinha is a newspaper editors and affliated to a political party. Jeffry witsoe is a anthropologist and sociologist but the source mentioned is a book on politics of bihar. I don't find his comment on kayathas/bhumihar varna status a serious one by him. He stresses mainly on present political environment of bihar. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 20:01, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Arun sinha specializes mainly in investigation journalism he is famous for keeping track of criminal records of politicians. He has nothing to do with history and sociology. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 20:06, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
Please can we discuss in one place. Please see discussion on Bhumihar talk page. I just found his qualifications from the publisher and his facebook account LukeEmily (talk) 20:14, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
I agree to you and support on your recent takes on articles about rajputs but a learned person like you should understand my points on bhumihars and kayathas Shakib khan1985 (talk) 19:40, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
low quality sources
Hi Heba, You reverted my change here on Bhumihar [1] But I think we as editors should not use low quality sources - especially by journalists on caste articles for sensitive topics like Varna. Using journalist, engineer or doctor opinions on Varna will open doors for puffery of other articles too and anyway wikipedia does not consider them good sources. You have added the Shudra for Bhumihar from that University of Chicago press book which is good and should be enough. I don't know much about Bihar or Bhumihar castes but in general I think journalists should not be used for mentioning varna as they are politically affiliated and often biased. They are not scholars on the Hindu caste system. Otherwise people will start adding timesofindia and other sources that at times mention varna. LukeEmily (talk) 12:58, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
Check various articles like BindKewatQassab and many more....we donot even have books to write about many castes. Because history of these caste starts after 1947. Take for example yadav caste; though they are most dominant if you talk about political history you will find books by ppl who are not historian. Because historian donot write about political history after 1947. Even I saw Sitush said that Ashwani kumar is the best source for bihar political history, who is not historian. As of now you can move that content and adjust in politics section.Heba Aisha (talk) 19:25, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
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All I request you to do is to remove Arun Sinha’s references in bhumihar page and kindly elaborate the ma sherring work more on the article. Thanks hope you consider my request. Shakib khan1985 (talk) 06:54, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
When users replace the content of others within seconds
An addition was made to a page that was almost instantly overwritten by someone else, and when repaired you came along and replaced it again with the defacing. Please exercise a modicum of judgment in your actions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.116.57 (talk) 03:20, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
Theoretically, that would have been lovely, but in my experience caste warriors never do. They simply disappear if they're topic banned. When I say they disappear... I mean, the particular account disappears. Am I becoming cynical? Yes, about caste promotion, I definitely am cynical. Frankly, I wish Wikipedia didn't have to have caste articles. Bishonen | tålk16:03, 14 December 2020 (UTC).
Yesterday I was glancing through a question at quora(just curiosity otherwise I know that less knowledgeable ppl are there), it was like Are Rajput a mixture of Shudra and Tribal?.A guy was blaming Bishonen in the reply that they blocked him when they wanted to be unbiased (unbiased for them means their POV violating edits regarding their caste) on wikipedia. Heba Aisha (talk) 23:27, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
[2], this was the question and I think they deleted the comment in which they mentioned you.The comment was from the same guy who is doubting reliability of wikipedia. Heba Aisha (talk) 11:21, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
Dear Heba i don't have to much knowledge about wkipedia editing, but i want to learn because i have very good knowledge about bihar like politics. If possible pls share your email or contact. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zainshahab (talk • contribs) 09:01, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
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Be cautious about entertaining such requests. The person who keeps asking for inclusions and replacements is a block-evaded sock.Whose only intention is to make the entire articles on the way of his beliefs which is against Wikipedia policy. Please read talk:Ezhava. 106.66.142.46 (talk) 15:44, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
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Hey, wanted to leave a bit more detail on why I proded this file. Non-free images have to meet certain criteria to be used, and one of them is that no free alternative is available or likely to be available. For a living person, that criteria is just generally assumed to not be met - since they are still alive, which means its very possible for someone to take a picture of them and release it with a free license. Ravensfire (talk) 22:53, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
Heba Aisha, I don't think it's eligible for use as a non-free image as the person is still alive. It's from a blog, so it's really likely that they took the image from somewhere else. If it's from an official Indian government site, taken by someone working for the government, it may be in public domain. I don't know the rules around that off-hand, and you'd need to find that official website. Honestly, that probably is your best bet - since they were a member of a legislature, they may have an "official portrait" or similar available on a government website. Non-free rationale can be tricky at times, I've been bit a couple of times by the criteria, there's a lot. Ravensfire (talk) 14:59, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
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Hi Heba, Google translate says(not grammatically correct but the gist is clear): "Whoever this brother is, broke his back on wikipedia to discredit the Rajputs. reminded heba..Salute is your brother. After removing the picture of the Rajputs, some anti-social people had put a picture of Malah on this page, which this brother had corrected by arguing that he was different."LukeEmily (talk) 09:52, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
Explaining to admins I tagged: Those editors who were bloked and rejected by wikipedia for doing disruptive POV edits in the caste area, specially Rajput caste related pages have made Facebook page to bring more and more members of the community in a bid to pursue disruptive editing for castecruft in those articles. LukeEmily has pasted two links above, the second one is in Hindi so here is the translation.
"Whoever this brother is, broke his back on wikipedia to discredit the Rajputs. reminded heba..Salute is your brother. After removing the picture of the Rajputs, some anti-social people had put a picture of Malah on this page, which this brother had corrected by arguing that he was different."
"Some People Try To Se Smart Handsome Dashing And Cool All Their Life But Some Are Born Rajput" [3]. Well, some people believe in periods and lower case letters. Bishonen, can Rajputisation go on long-term semi-protection or ECP? -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:49, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
PS, however, the Facebook group doesn't seem any too active recently, and only has 18 followers. Maybe it won't turn into a major problem. Alexander did need indeffing, nevertheless. Bishonen | tålk13:27, 3 January 2021 (UTC).
This is not uncommon with any of the caste articles, there's a lot of off-wiki coordination, Facebook, caste sites and wikis (Jatland), caste discussion forums (Nair, Gurjars etc), nothing we can really do about it, just block accounts as any evidence of disruption comes about. —SpacemanSpiff05:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
Boing! said Zebedee, most of the uninvolved admins (I mean those who are not from India and out of the Varna System, to favour any caste) donot know in depth about the topic area and it becomes easy for someone who knows some policies of wikipedia to create disruption in the name of adding content. Though Bishonen believes that group is small to create disruption here, they have started it on Hindi Wikipedia as in one of the post in the facebook group, the author is himself admitting that they have heavily edited a caste article on Hindi wiki.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:30, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
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Walrus Ji, thank u so much for appreciation. Admins have taken the note of that and yes caste is an area where there are chances that more vandals may blast in future. Heba Aisha (talk) 14:40, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
You are welcome. Well deserved. I am glad that you have the courage to even dive into that topic area. Keep taking admin help whenever it is going out of hand. Walrus Ji (talk) 14:45, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Thanks again for your help.Heba Aisha " I saw you have opened a sockpuppet investigation but that requires various factors to be completed. Demage has been done, you can't do anything but just seeing.223.225.140.103 (talk) 05:23, 17 February 2021 (UTC)"talk) 14:47, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Glad to know that it survived and found a caring house. I love his pattern like the Border Collie. Do get it neutered whenever vet recommends. I have heard that Municipality vets will readily do it without any charge to you, as part of their job duty. Walrus Ji (talk) 14:49, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
The desi Pariah dog are battle hardened and do not suffer the common diseases as other dogs face. Need little maintenance. They are friendly and bark very little. The dog population is on the rise due to lack of neutering drives for the dog. The vet will only neuter when people bring the dogs. As per the government rule the Govt vets have to do it without charging any cost. --Walrus Ji (talk) 15:00, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
True. I have heard that Islam prohibits dog so it is uncommon. It is great that you value the love of the puppy. They are bundle of joy. Walrus Ji (talk) 15:05, 15 January 2021 (UTC)
Recently you came to my talk page and said that Kachwaha rajputs through history were known as servants of Mughals while kushwaha peasants gained nobility, which is not only outrageous but also shows your biased approach and systematic targeting of Rajputs. Most of the edits are concerned about demeaning rajputs one way or other. Mughals were in India for around a period of 250 yrs, Kachwaha relations with Mughals were not even for 200 yrs. Moreover Kachwaha rajputs have a martial history of 1200 yrs, with many of their fighters died fighting battles against Invading forces in India, like Prithviraj kachwaha in Battle of Khanwa against Mughals and Pajawan dev kachwaha against Ghori in Battle of Tarain, how can You call a whole clan as servant of Mughals? I hope senior editors take cognizance of your biased comments about Rajput community by the editor. User: Kautilya3User: UtcurschBhojpal1234 (talk) 18:08, 16 January 2021 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bhojpal1234 (talk • contribs) 17:59, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
When did I say wat you are telling? In fact I have just supported your stand about the difference between the two. And the Kachhawas were not added by me in Kushwaha article. All of my contribution to that article was in politics section. Its Sitush who added that.Heba Aisha (talk) 18:34, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
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No worries; I removed quite a lot of POV text But I think the article still has a long way to go before it reaches GAN standard. In particular, I think the early part of the History section could use more information about the colonial and pre-colonial periods. The later sections focussing on the colourful Yadav and Devi periods could be summarised, with perhaps more about their corruption, gangs, "parallel governments", the lack of Federal intervention, etc.
There's also an unreliable source (dead url; marked in the ref) used that appears to have been a mirror of an old version of Wikipedia's main article on Bihar. It's an interesting article overall (not that I have much interest in Indian politics!), and I wish you good luck getting it to GA standard. Cheers, Baffle☿gab20:51, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
Article is not fully my work, the mirror source was used by someone else and initial part too was written before i joined, and I m surely going to do major changes in few days to improve it further.Heba Aisha (talk) 03:17, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
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In your contributions to the article "Bihar under Lalu Prasad Yadav" there has been much misuse of periods, commas, and colons. These should not be used to separate two spaces. This sentence shows incorrect usage "Do not write as follows : This is incorrect , very incorrect . ". This sentence shows correct usage "Write as follows: This is correct, very correct." Jellysandwich0 (talk) 21:10, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
Hi Heba Aisha, I've removed your copy-edit request for the article Koeri from the Guild of Copy Editors Requets page because there's currently a limit of two requests per editor at any one time. This limit allows all requests on the page to be dealt with fairly and stops the page from becoming unserviceable. If you wish to prioritise this article, you can replace one of your other requests with Koeri; otherwise, please wait until one of them is completed before adding more requests. Thanks for your patience and understanding. Cheers, Baffle☿gab06:47, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
I'm afraid I'd call that wikilawyering, Heba. Alerting a user who just gave you a barnstar for your articles on the politics of Bihar is definitely not a good look. That's a user you probably think will vote Keep. Common sense trumps the list of rules you refer to. I know you feel strongly about this, Heba, but please don't let your passion push you into inappropriate actions. Bishonen | tålk21:24, 19 February 2021 (UTC).
Bishonen, Oh, that's the case. Then ok, I won't chose those who gave me Barnstar. Actually, they also edited in same topic area. But its ok. Next time will choose neutral person or won't choose. Heba Aisha (talk) 21:27, 19 February 2021 (UTC)
Hello. I have noticed that you often edit without using an edit summary. Please do your best to always fill in the summary field. This helps your fellow editors use their time more productively, rather than spending it unnecessarily scrutinizing and verifying your work. Even a short summary is better than no summary, and summaries are particularly important for large, complex, or potentially controversial edits. Thanks! 220ofßorg03:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
Congratulations on your 10000 edits!
Share an email id, to take this further. I am not an enemy, rest assured. Call me an elder brother, if you wish to. Yours Mr.P Shylock Gomes (talk) 16:12, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
Heba Aisha, I won't do anything until I hear from you, because perhaps I've entirely misread the situation. But if this message was unwanted, let me know. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:36, 4 March 2021 (UTC)
I was actually thinking someone else, but for blocking purposes, it doesn't matter who it is, just that they're being creepy. I've blocked this incarnation, but I can also semi-protect your talk page longer term if you'd like. --Floquenbeam (talk) 00:19, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Floquenbeam, plz do so, I am sick of these new accounts, made to disrupt my work. Already Bihar related articles are in precarious state and not updated for a long time, and someone who wanna improve is being disrupted by these ips.Heba Aisha (talk) 02:13, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Hi, Heba. Compare also this conversation on Floquenbeam's page today. I don't know whose sock it is, but that doesn't matter; it's clearly a sock, and created for lies and shit-stirring. I've blocked it as such. Bishonen | tålk14:58, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
I've now removed another sock from this page and semiprotected it for a while. It doesn't look like Floq did the semi. Heba, please let me know if you spot further obvious socks elsewhere. As we know, the caste warriors have no respect for Wikipedia and its rules, or, I sometimes think, even any respect for themselves. Bishonen | tålk16:00, 5 March 2021 (UTC).
Thanks to you admins for consistent vigilance on my talk page. Untill my comments are there on Rajput talk page, these people will see me as villain and will keep blasting my talk page with abuses and accusations. Heba Aisha (talk) 16:31, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Thanks, Bish, for semi-protecting this page; I went to bed before Heba Aisha replied, and am only now back online, so that's why I didn't semi-protect last night. Also thanks for blocking the sock on my talk page. Heba, if this is a long-term issue of organized or semi-organized harassment, it's possible someone at WP:T&S can provide further suggestions. I mean, it's likely WP:RBI is the best we can do, but maybe they can help a little more. --Floquenbeam (talk) 16:45, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
I have left a "Clarification" tag in the Surge in crime... section because the currency of the 50,000 payment is not specified. I would suggest that you expand the lede to more accurately reflect the article's scope when you have time.
I hope my edits have not changed the intended meaning of any parts of the article.
Regards,
Bishonen, hi, recent contribution from this account gives me doubts! Why would someone respond to thank in such a manner. I think someone has highjacked it.Heba Aisha (talk) 08:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
They thanked me for blanking a rather undesirable thread from my TP with a sarcastic edit summary. Looks like they're trying to rub it in. Firestar464 (talk) 10:22, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
I didn't noticed, many a times I thank editors but it doesn't mean wat u understand. No issues, I will take care in future to do it when it's meaningful. Heba Aisha (talk) 10:39, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
I see the edit you describe, Firestar464. (The thanks log only shows the person and the date of thanking — not the relevant edit. Only the two people involved can know what it was.) Heba, what exactly was it you "didn't notice"? Do you really thank people quite randomly "many times"? That's a bad idea. I hope your post above means it won't happen again. Seriously, please don't thank somebody if it's not quite clear why — clear to yourself and to the person you're thanking — otherwise you're playing with fire. Firestar464 doesn't understand what was to thank about that edit, and I don't understand it either. And your whole explanation so far seems to be "it doesn't mean wat u understand". Bishonen | tålk16:20, 14 March 2021 (UTC).
You have to apply for the right
Hello there, I hope you saw the message left by Bishonen in the autopatrolled permission request page. He also have the feeling that you will be granted the right. But you have to apply for it. I think I made an error there. It shouldnt have done that way. So please make a request of your own and ping me there. Regards.Kichu🐘 Discuss12:35, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
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