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Yeah true i was testing. @Vanamonde93: Sorry Heba Aisha (talk) 17:24, 29 June 2020 (UTC) Disambiguation link notification for July 5Hi. Thank you for your recent edits. An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Paswan, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Bhojpur (check to confirm | fix with Dab solver). Such links are usually incorrect, since a disambiguation page is merely a list of unrelated topics with similar titles. (Read the FAQ • Join us at the DPL WikiProject.) It's OK to remove this message. Also, to stop receiving these messages, follow these opt-out instructions. Thanks, DPL bot (talk) 06:13, 5 July 2020 (UTC) Disambiguation link notification for July 12An automated process has detected that you recently added links to disambiguation pages.
(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC) ThanksI am also a Bihari and I am happy that you are doing good for us. Amrapahal Pahanswan (talk) 16:35, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
Sister, I have published article on Jagdanand Singh giving a citation by The Economics Times describing his caste，political affluence, till it was deleted. Amrapahal Pahanswan (talk) 16:48, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
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(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:20, 11 August 2020 (UTC) Majority of People who use " Yadav " surname in Haryana are " Ahirs" only. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 20:31, 12 August 2020 (UTC) I have added another source that clearly mentions " 114 were Ahirs" — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 20:33, 12 August 2020 (UTC) Anyways I have removed the Rezang La section for now. I have also removed the image as there was no image before.Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 20:54, 12 August 2020 (UTC) I have removed picture.There was no picture in past and I don't think its important to have image of particular individual in this article — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 21:11, 12 August 2020 (UTC) Picture of Ahir King Rao Tula Ram was added . Then someone changed it and added picture of some Individual based on British Raj records. Its better not to have any image here. If you wanna include it , please tell why its necessary.Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 21:40, 12 August 2020 (UTC) And I am not sure which one is added first . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Har1990 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 12 August 2020 (UTC) Peasants and Monks in British India, William R. PinchDear Sis, You are doing awesome work on Wikipedia. congrats! BTW, I noticed you used Peasants and Monks in British India by William R. Pinch at several places.It is freely available here. Please see https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft22900465 Also, for some "pure shudra" castes in early 1800s , please see https://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/view?docId=ft22900465&chunk.id=s1.2.11&toc.depth=1&toc.id=ch2 See "Buchanan, in the early nineteenth century, had included in the term “pure shudra” the well-known designations of Kayasth, Koiri, Kurmi, Kahar, Goala, Dhanuk (archers, cultivators, palanquin bearers), Halwai (sweets vendor), Mali (flower gardener), Barai (cultivator and vendor of betel-leaf), Sonar (goldsmith), Kandu (grain parcher), and Gareri (blanket weavers and shepherds).[108]". If you click on the number 108, you will notice that he is talking about Bihar and Patna only. 108. Buchanan, Bihar and Patna, 1811–1812, 1:329–39; Martin, Eastern India, 2:466–70. Buchanan notes that in Gorakhpur both Halwais and Kandus were included as Vaishyas and thus considered twice-born (Martin, Eastern India, 2:465). Also, that chapter refers to North India only. Hence as a general suggestion, we need to be careful before generalizing and need to qualify these groups with "Bihar/Patna" as they may be under different classification elsewhere whenever we use this chapter. As an example, this may not apply to same caste names from other states. For example, Sonar in Maharashtra came from Brahmins and were called Daivadnya Brahmins - and they had thread ceremonies too. I was looking at some of your recent edits and noticed that you were generalizing this statement for disparate groups on some pages. Hence the suggestion. Hope the link helps. Best Regards,LukeEmily (talk) 21:46, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
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I didn't knew that....adding images brings dis 😀Heba Aisha (talk) 02:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC) Hi Heba, thank you for your editsMy respects to the superior knowledge that you have attained over the years. Thanks for contributing to wikipedia. I saw your recent edits of Kayastha page. You have added a few theories that claim that Bhumihar and Kayastha of Bihar are Shudra. You probably do understand that these contentions have been debated for ages and both these groups have proved beyond doubt their high ritual status in religious as well as legal courts. Nevertheless the contention did exist and you are welcome to add the same to the page. But to be fair, the other side of the contention should also be fairly added. The decision of Banaras pandits regarding these may be impartiality added. As per Padma Purana, Bhavishya Purana and the decision of Banaras Pandits in the year 1779 AD on varna status of various sub-groups of Kayastha, they are considered to be Brahmins.[1] Add the same to Varna/classification section of the page, if you find it useful and relevant. Thanks in advance. I hope you continue the good work. Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 09:14, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
If you have doubt then you can ask the above two editors i mentioned or can discuss on Wikipedia india related page discussion forum.If i add they will revert it sooner or later as source you provided is of period before 1947.Heba Aisha (talk) 09:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC) No issues, I can provide you a post-1947 book which refers to this letter. Will that help you be impartial? Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 09:43, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
Yes it is a standard book. Milton Israel’s book of 1987 refers to this translation of Gupte of 1779 AD letter of Banaras Pandits to Peshwa Darbar.[2] Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 09:58, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
On the other hand, as per Padma Purana, Bhavishya Purana and the decision of Banaras Pandits in the year 1779 AD on varna status of various sub-groups of Kayastha, they are considered to be Brahmins.[3][4] Add the same to Varna/classification section of the Kayastha page. Thanks in advance. I hope you continue the good work. Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 10:17, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
I can't see these sources- anywhere on Kayastha page nor in the reference list. Which page are you looking at? Even if they are there reformatting may be done, since new regional sources have been recently added by you. In my opinion, the above mentioned statement with sources may be added before or after your additions, to present the complete contention. Hope you appreciate the concern. Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 14:57, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
■https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:MobileDiff/963210741 Hey bro, let me give it to you straight, you should pray that your impersonation as a women or a muslim to spread caste and religion based hatred is not discovered soon. The trick that you are trying here has been played for too long on youtube and other platforms. See you after Bihar elections. Till then. Vikram Q1W2 (talk) 15:24, 15 August 2020 (UTC) ●■No personal commentsHeba Aisha (talk) 15:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC) ●■Also for your allegations see WP:NotcensoredHeba Aisha (talk) 15:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC) References
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A kitten for you! You are welcome. Fylindfotberserk (talk) 06:17, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
Thanku....i was about to add refrence to the article but that message really disturbed me.Btw he was not due to image at Dhangar article.I never add anything without source.Is it possible that someone can misuse my account in the same way.How to protect future redirects..?I m not much techno savy....let me confess.Heba Aisha (talk) 10:07, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
What to do?Heba Aisha (talk) 14:29, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
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LukeEmily (talk) 12:24, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
Battle of MaondaPlease check the article Battle of Maonda and Mandholi. There seems to be a lot of changes and removal of trusted sources like Jadunath Sarkar with personal remarks. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:8100:387E:59A6:1:0:54A3:1926 (talk) 05:47, 18 August 2020 (UTC) Please check I have written in my own words. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:8100:3853:2302:1:0:54E7:55F1 (talk) 06:48, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
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(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:09, 26 August 2020 (UTC) User:LukeSmilyThis user left a message on my talk page and your talk page suspecting we are sockpuppets. Interestingly, it happened seconds after I replied on the Rajput page supporting that image you supported. Maybe some admin should intervene and see who LukeSmily is. Obviously, he is after me based on his name. LukeEmily (talk) 19:10, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Few editing tipsHello, Heba Aisha. Please don't move any other talk page comment as that will create further confusion. You should use a colon (see WP:Indentation) to reply to a comment rather than using an asterisk mark. Also, one should provide diffs rather copy-pasting whole comments of other editors – please see WP:Diff. Finally, an article's talk page is meant for discussing things related to the improvement of that article. So other article or general behaviour of users should not be discussed there – please see WP:TPG. Thanks. - NitinMlk (talk) 11:15, 29 August 2020 (UTC) Ok....Btw plz open sockpuppetry investigation against Sajaypal007 he is making personal attacks on me by making fake accounts like LukeSmily and Lukhiba.I m busy elsewhere.TqHeba Aisha (talk) 11:17, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
Ok thank uHeba Aisha (talk) 11:27, 29 August 2020 (UTC) About the photo you added on the Meenas wiki pageWhy you have added a photo with the caption "Meenas, Hindoos of low caste, vagrants, Delhi."? 1. if the source is old does not mean it is correct or reviewed work. How a photo dated -1868 - 1875 is relevant? We are in 2020, do Meenas still live and are vagrants? Do you know how many divisions are there within Meena tribe? 2. Meenas are not natives of Delhi, as photo caption is stating. 3. Meenas in Rajasthan come under tribe, NOT a CASTE and do not fall under Hindu cast systems, hence, no point in stating low or hight cast. So, the photo and caption are misleading and do not represent the correct status of Meenas. So, please remove it or find a photo represents Meenas in factual terms. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.242.49.5 (talk) 21:44, 30 August 2020 (UTC)
A few photos of Meena/Mina tribe: 1822 to 1890s..to replace the current photo from Meenas wiki page.
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(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:30, 2 September 2020 (UTC) Content about racist views of Richard Nixon for indians was removedDeclassified documents from the Richard Nixon Presidential Library show that Nixon held deeply racist views for the Indian people and sexual hatred for Indian Women as revealed by author Gary J. Bass. [1]Describing Indian women as "undoubtedly" the most unattractive women in the world. Also describing Indian people as the most "sexless" and "nothing" people in the world . At one point comparing indian people with "African blacks " , stating that atleast they have an "animallike charm" but the Indians were "ack, pathetic" . [1] This content is sourced from a recent article in the NYT but it was still removed . Could you have a look ? Meethamonkey (talk) 06:21, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
Ok i got it .....will see when get time.Heba Aisha (talk) 11:18, 5 September 2020 (UTC) References
HiRegarding the removal of content from talk page, I did remove only two discussion, both were related to you. You put fake warning of edit war and block. Edit war is considered when you make atleast 3 reverts within 24 hrs. And that was not that. I see you also removed such fake warnings from your page put up by someone and its ok. Because they were fake warnings. You can remove this discussion too if you wish. And for Rajput page, I again ask you to keep the discussion short and relevant to the matter. Other matters if you want to discuss then create separate discussion page for that. @Kautilya3 I believe has not much time in hand so try to keep it comprehensible. Thanks. Sajaypal007 (talk) 13:57, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
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(Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:10, 9 September 2020 (UTC) Hi, regarding your constant following of my editsIf you don't mind I think I feel like you are following my edits and then try to edit that and related pages. For singular incident I think it wont be any problem, but lately I am feeling that for every history related article i edit you will reach there and edit it. It feels like I am being watched everytime. It may also lead to some conflict if you continouosly edit after my edits where you earlier never edited. We already have our differences in other articles and if you keep on doing this, we may get other conflicts on some other pages, I request you to not do such things. You never in your edit history ever touched those articles ever, you even had little knowledge about the subject, (by look of that talk page), nonetheless as soon as I edited that you will reach on that page and edit it alongwith other related pages. This may amount to Wikipedia:Harassment#Wikihounding, so I will suggest you refrain from such acts in future. Sajaypal007 (talk) 07:16, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
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Hi, I saw that you are using {{Apprentice Editor}} on your user page. However, I'll suggest you to use the Template:Service awards. It will automatically upgrade your awards. What you need to do is to just update your edits. It's just a suggestion otherwise you are using the award template that is right too. See my awards page. Hope it works. Thank you. Empire AS Talk! 01:55, 17 September 2020 (UTC)
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Help meI have been trying to make changes in Udal of Mahoba, Alha and Banaphar since few days, but obviously English administrators cannot understand Hindi language, that's why I need help of any administrator who understands hindi language. So can you please help me. If you can than please see my reliable sources for making changes in Talk:Udal of Mahoba Sumit banaphar (talk) 12:06, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
I meant to say that, can you check the sources i provide in Talk:Udal of Mahoba.If you are interested or not busy.Sumit banaphar (talk) 16:17, 3 November 2020 (UTC) Vaani publishers.....it will be difficult for english wikipedia to accept this source. Because many users in past tried to expand some articles with such sources but were reverted by the senior editors.Heba Aisha (talk) 17:04, 3 November 2020 (UTC) I just want your opinions about what the source are saying which i provide to make changes in Talk:Udal of MahobaSumit banaphar (talk) 08:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC) Happy Diwali!
Happy Diwali.🪔HappyDeepawali🪔May this festival bring peace and blessings to you and your family • .💠245CMR💠.•👥📜 10:23, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Thanks 245CMR👍👍Heba Aisha (talk) 11:21, 14 November 2020 (UTC) Disambiguation link notification for November 17An automated process has detected that when you recently edited Shakuni Choudhury, you added a link pointing to the disambiguation page Lakhanpur. (Opt-out instructions.) --DPL bot (talk) 06:16, 17 November 2020 (UTC) New message from Swadge2 Message added 10:19, 18 November 2020 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template. Swadge2 (talk) 10:19, 18 November 2020 (UTC) ChariotRider55Hi Heba, Hi Heba Aisha, maybe we could rephrase some of Chariotrider555's edits but it seems that at least some of the edits are necessary as the modern opinions apply to *all* Rajput clans. They do not say that there are any exceptions. Many of the western scholars (other than origin section, please see the community formation section on the Rajput page) - are quite explicit in saying that they do not have Kshatriya origin and these lineages were fabricated by Bards as well as the Rajputs themselves. I found two more references from Oxford University Press. But these were not always fabricated by Brahmins. I have seen this promotion issue on Maratha pages too. Since the main Maratha page is under heavy scrutiny, several caste promoters try to add words like Suryavamshi, Kshatriya origin etc. directly to the clan subpages rather than the main page as not many people watch them. I feel that at least something should be added when there is a statement that a certain clan is or claims Suryavanshi etc. and then point the page to origin on the Rajput page. At least one or two lines that modern historians do not agree in general about all Rajput clans. What do you think? I felt like his edits were valid although probably too much detail. In short, unless there is historical evidence that a caste studied vedas at least in the 18th/19th century - it is unlikely that it is twice born irrespective of what they claim. LukeEmily (talk) 16:04, 19 November 2020 (UTC) Ok...as u added those details..... You are more knowledgeable in the area. So I asked u.Go aheadHeba Aisha (talk) 16:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC) Daroga is not part of Rajput community you idiot Luke Emily. Rajputs are the kshatriya as far as Vedic ritual is concerned. The word is synonymous to Kshatriya. This is not based on some bards, Charans as you fool think to be. Rana of Bharat (talk) 07:47, 21 November 2020 (UTC) My friend Luke Emily, your questions on Sacred thread and dwija, yes Rajputs used to recite Vedas and wear sacred thread. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=0fmtjbaQPzMC&pg=PA64&dq=rajputs+rulers+vedas+reciting&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiV6LDylpPtAhV-yTgGHYdMDIoQuwUwAXoECAYQBw#v=onepage&q=rajputs%20rulers%20vedas%20reciting&f=false Rana of Bharat (talk) 08:12, 21 November 2020 (UTC) Ms Heba, when you have lack of knowledge on the subject don't try to be the editor on it. Today anybody is entitled to do what they want like farming, business etc. Do you a large section of brahmin is in agriculture and not very literate ( if you use English educational logic). Rana of Bharat (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2020 (UTC) Discussion on a pageIn the page Rajputization, you have added Daroga, Noniya, Rajgond etc these are not part of the community. They are separate community pls correct it. Ritual imitation doesn't mean a community becomes as such. Rana of Bharat (talk) 06:56, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
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Irrelevant image added in Bihari RajputHow is the image being added by you on Bihari Rajput is relevant to the topic? Is that image verifiable with citation to prove it, explain. Anony20 (talk) 05:00, 28 November 2020 (UTC)Anony20 Please avoid editorial warringHello, please comply with wikipedia policy on edit war and refrain from editing the article jadeja without detailed references. Please add precise quotes from the reference material on the talk page to build consensus about the material and then add it into the article. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing edits, once it is known that there is a disagreement. If you engage in repeated warring you may be blocked from editing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by OnlyTruthShallPrevail (talk • contribs) 17:55, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
Heba good to see your are so regular but please be more informativeYou added bhumihars to shudra who were always considered high caste even brahmin. I am a kshtriya kushwaha Anirudh Kumar Paswan (talk) 07:43, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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You have marked the media as a duplicate and for speedy deletion, when it's obvious from the caption of your upload that it's an engraving of a photograph(One uploaded by me). Stop personal attack and Revenge Anony20 (talk) 12:27, 1 December 2020 (UTC) |
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