User talk:AaronY/Archive 4adminshipI see you weren't interested in adminship a few weeks ago, but I really think you should give it a try, we need more admins who don't hate sports articles! Considering your FA and your history so far, I think you'd do quite well at RFA. Adminship really isn't as big a deal as many people think... I personally believe all responsible editors should have the tools ASAP. I'd be happy to write up a nomination if you're interested. --W.marsh 15:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
TyrusThomas4lyfCan you please talk to that user? he's been messing around with every single thing that includes Kobe Bryant; and can you tell me how do I report a user? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Immortal23 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 2 May 2007 (UTC). Thanks for the reply. Yes he's a Jordan glorifier, Love Jordan to death but can you warn him to not change the comments on the "List of National Basketball Association players with 60 or more points in a game"? He keeps adding meaningless info about how "Toronto had the second worst defense in the league", and then adds to the Jordans 63 point game that "The 1986 Boston Celtics are widely regarded as one of the greatest teams of all-time. Top 10 Teams in NBA History" link- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Basketball_Association_players_with_60_or_more_points_in_a_game thanks in advanced.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Immortal23 (talk • contribs) Micheal Jordan nicknameHi, I was wondering if you had any additional thoughts on the discussion about adding MJ as a nickname for Micheal Jordan on the Michael Jordan talk page. You seemed to have stopped commenting, and I was wondering if that meant you no longer oppose the addition. - Ektar 17:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
Pic placementThanks for your comment to Wikipedia_talk:Manual_of_Style#Pic_placement. I used one of your points to improve the guidelines, and followed up there with the other point (which I didn't quite follow). Eubulides 22:54, 2 May 2007 (UTC) Rock Springs MassacreHi there. I was wondering if you might lend some outside eyes to Rock Springs Massacre. I have undertaken a major overhaul project since it was promoted to GA and I hope to nominate for FA soon. Right now it just needs some outside perspective and copy editing. I have sort of charted my progress on the talk page, if you want to check out what I have written/thought there. Any help would be greatly appreciated. If you don't have the time or whatever that's cool. Thanks. IvoShandor 12:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
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I posed some questions beneath your original comment on the FAC page. Possibly you could have a look at them? Thanks. Danny InvincibleTalk|Edits 02:05, 4 May 2007 (UTC) TyrusThomas4lyfThanks for the heads-up regarding Wikipedia:Requests for comment/TyrusThomas4lyf. I'll contribute more content this evening. Myasuda 13:42, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Toronto RaptorsHi there! The FA nomination has actually been re-set, kindly re-cast your vote at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Toronto Raptors. Thank you. (p.s. thanks for reviewing some of the flickr stuff I uploaded) Chensiyuan 04:32, 5 May 2007 (UTC) RE: Retired NFL playersThanks for the heads up on the consensus on NFL retired players. I didn't really follow the discussion as closely as I should have. Thanks! RyguyMN 14:46, 5 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks!Thanks a lot for your barnstar! Cheers!--Yannismarou 18:17, 5 May 2007 (UTC) About external linksHi Quadzilla99. I'm reading the external links guideline and I think than the site I link have a valuable information. I don't see the difference with the other external links you don't delete. I accept your decission, but I think that are interesting links. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.129.138.192 (talk) 21:03, 5 May 2007 (UTC). I came across this image while looking at the requirements for Featured Pictures and saw that it had no source information at all, a history search showed that someone had deleted the entire summary and undoing it saw that you had labeled it as replaceable, due to that the "links were dead". I searched more in the history and discovered a one-off vandal AkvinRox (talk · contribs) was the person who changed the source to a myspace page and a google search for David Hasselhoff (as well as an image of Hasselhoff before that). The actual source is a flickr page which I have fixed the link to. –– Lid(Talk) 09:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
U of I telescope thingyThanks for the compliments and boldness, the only reason I listed it is because the reviewer never posted what they said they would, I just wanted to make sure. Have you dropped by Rock Springs Massacre lately? It's getting closer I think. IvoShandor 16:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh, you.Thanks. I try. --Maxamegalon2000 19:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC) ThanksHey Quadzilla - thanks for the Barnstar. Nice photos on your User page, and great contributions! Dave --David Shankbone 13:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
Are you sure? It seemed awfully close based on the work you had done. I didn't want to add a Remove if you think there's any chance it can be salvaged. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:47, 9 May 2007 (UTC) Phil SimmsYou're welcome. Don't feel bad about your initial reaction. It was justified. I overextend myself on here because I want to do everything, but I don't have time. And I don't totally understand it all, so this is a learning process for me. In hindsight, I shouldn't have even nominated it for delisting. I should have just posted the review and noted that if changes weren't made I may then nominate it. But I learn something new with each review and most seem to appreciate my thoroughness. I'm now on my second requested review, so I must be doing something right. Anyway, I appreciate your feedback. Let me know if you want me to review any other articles in the future. Regards, LaraLoveTalk/Contribs 03:10, 11 May 2007 (UTC) Elvis PresleyHi, I've noticed you've offered comments on the Elvis Presley article. I would welcome any help in format and structure of the article - including where the article is excessively long and what solutions you may suggest overall. My hope is to have a wiki-standard article worthy of 'good' then 'featured' status - and am working to that end. If you know of any editors who might work biographies or who are good at summarizing content or format - let me know so that I could solicite their help in improving the quality of the article. Thanks. --Northmeister 14:15, 12 May 2007 (UTC) InfoboxPlease see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_National_Football_League#Template:Infobox_NFL_season. It was made that way because of movements between cities and teams that suspended seasons. --Pinkkeith 22:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC) Hey can you read and hopefully up-grade the Sivaji: The Boss article to a GA. Many Thanks. Universal Hero 10:48, 13 May 2007 (UTC) {{More sources}} or {{Refimprove}}Re: Template talk:Unreferenced - use {{More sources}} or {{Refimprove}}, currently I prefer {{Refimprove}} is at has "adequately" in it. Jeepday (talk) 14:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
PingReplied on my talk page. --Cyde Weys 20:42, 14 May 2007 (UTC) D-WadeThe article says he was born in Chicago and grew up in Robbins. I'm not sure if he was born in Chicago or not, but I'm sure he was raised in Robbins. Chicagoedits 18:21, 15 May 2007 (UTC) No worries. You edits have always seemed fine to me, but I don't think we want to base part of the article on student papers. If you can find real references, great! GlassFET 19:50, 15 May 2007 (UTC) BannersI reverted the change to the Jordan talk page I already discussed this with Satyr when she/he added it. I also brought up the issue of the banner formats at the Village Pump where no consensus was reached see here. Previously Satyr and myself decided to leave out the shell format as it cluttered the page, this was also decided at Talk:Barack Obama and other talk pages. Quadzilla99 14:58, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
Marcus Jordan transferring to Whitney Young?Has this been confirmed? I don't have access to the rivals.com article, but I was under the impression that this was just a rumor. Whitney Young is a public school, so Marcus would have to move to Chicago to attend. I'm just curious what that rivals.com article says, because I want to make sure the article isn't reporting rumors as facts. Zagalejo 16:33, 16 May 2007 (UTC) 2003 NBA finalsHi, assuming you know about this subject, please would you check this edit, as other edits today by the same anon IP user were vandalism. Fayenatic london (talk) 18:16, 16 May 2007 (UTC) ET FACI personally feel the FAC is the best place to list concerns, so please do so. Also, did you check the article first or have you been following someone else's opinion? Alientraveller 07:25, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
Cool, so what exactly are your concerns? My primary talent is finding citations and including content that is factually accurate: if you wish to really help, then give me a dollop of notes. A mere oppose vote won't do. Alientraveller 15:46, 17 May 2007 (UTC) Hap Moranreadded {{ChicagoWikiProject}} tag as a former Chicago Cardinals player. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 17:49, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
PixelateSo that's what you call it :-) SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:05, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
Help neededHey, I noticed you are a frequent contributor to WP:GA/R. There are a few discussion threads that are floundering and need additional comments from other editors. I would like to act on these soon, as they have been up for discussion for several weeks, but so few people have commented that I can't even archive as "no consensus" since we have a near null-set of comments. If you have the time, could you take a peek at the following articles and make any comments at WP:GA/R as you see fit? The articles needing additional comment are: Jeremy Clarkson, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Anaximander, and Syncaris pacifica. Thanks in advance for your help with this! --Jayron32|talk|contribs 18:36, 18 May 2007 (UTC) Li'l BsThanks for the suggestion. That opening line in all of them was actually supplied by CanadianCeasar, who was kind enough to get the ball rolling on the leads. Your proposed revision seems just right. I'm glad Jim Thorpe's FAR worked out—as you probably gathered, I got preoccupied with FBO. Best, Dan.—DCGeist 01:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC) Tyrus was blocked for another two weeks. I don't understand why he just doesn't tone down the attitude. He makes solid contributions when he's not looking to engage in edit warring. ZodiiakDial Z 03:36, 20 May 2007 (UTC) --Aquarius • talk 01:25, 21 May 2007 (UTC) The Miracle at the MeadowlandsThanks for the compliment! I started it last January when it was just a redirect to NFL lore, taking the name given to it by Eagles fans (it returned more Google hits than "The Fumble"+Giants did). I didn't expect it to get so long, but I did feel it should set the record straight about that play (like New Coke, the first GA I was responsible for). So many people over the years have blamed Pisarcik, and while he did make the fumble neither he nor the players on the field wanted to make that call, but Gibson had the power and he had no choice. And while Gibson deserved his de facto lifetime ban from the sport for that, he was an old-school guy. One of the last. In fact, part of the story in that article is that the old, Lombardi-era NFL is what finally died on the Giants Stadium turf as Herman Edwards ran the touchdown in. I also wanted to show what Gregg Easterbrook had noted ... that it was the play that finally forced the Giants to change, and ultimately led to Parcells being hired. (More on this below). I did research and kept finding more usable stuff. I went to the library to get the Times articles (looking at them on microfiche gives you a sense of how the paper played the stories (back when the Times had a really weak sports section). They were interesting because they gave a lot of forgotten background about the frustration the offensive players had with the coaching staff before that game. I saved the printouts and the web-page printouts in a file folder; I could probably PDF it if you'd like to see it. The article grew and grew as I traced the historical currents that started before and passed through that play, ultimately to 1996. Perhaps it would be the basis of a great book. I'll admit that from the first I had thoughts that this could be a future featured article. With all the references put in now (something I could do over the course of this week, I suppose), and peer-reviewed, it's a GA as is. Still, my ultimate plan is to get more material for it. It has some subtle biases. For instance, right now, due to the comparative ease of searching the New York Times online archives, that paper's media coverage drives the article. Yet, as solid as it is, back then the Times had a relatively weak sports section and was not where serious New York sports fans went for their coverage. We should have what the Post and Daily News said as well ... particularly their columnists, who could be pretty outspoken. More importantly, I couldn't get into the Philadelphia papers at all. What were the Inquirer, Bulletin and Daily News saying about the team that week. How did they report the aftermath? It was naturally a very different perspective, yet because I couldn't get it we don't have it. I mean, I'd love to have the images of whatever headline the News or Post had on their back page (it had to be great), with any corresponding image from the Philly papers. I'd also love to have a step-by-step diagram of how the play happened. It should also have a radio-call transcript like so many other "great moments in sports" articles (Music City Miracle, Holy Roller). Without these things I wouldn't submit it for an FA. I should list them on the talk page. I'm flattered to be asked to join your project, but given all the projects I'm in right now I'm not quite sure yet. Then again, I don't really see myself doing too much beside this article (my involvement in the soft drinks project is largely limited to the New Coke article), so I could. Of course, I'm some years removed from serious Giants fandom (I had sort of given up following the team in 1978, when I was in fourth grade, because I'd tried in 1977 and it just wasn't as rewarding as following the Yankees was at the time :-). So I don't have first hand memories of watching that play, but many people I know do, and like the guy on the talk page they say the same thing ... they were absolutely stunned into silence). What I could do besides this is 1983 New York Giants season ... I remember that year very well as I had finally started playing football myself. You can't truly appreciate the 1986 season (the one you got your DYK on), without understanding that one, when they went 3-12-1 in Parcells' first year as head coach. A lot of history has been memory-holed here as well ... since Tuna walks on water today as some people said he would even back then, people forget just how much fan and media abuse he took that first season (he came very close to being fired and replaced by Howard Schnellenberger afterwards). And it really wasn't mostly his fault. He was sick for some of that year, his mother died midseason, as did Robert Ledbetter (the running backs' coach). He'd had to suddenly take over between seasons when Ray Perkins left to fill Bear Bryant's shoes, and he took over a team that had been one (or two) questionable fumble calls or non-calls from making the playoffs during the strike year before. Then the Giants' had injury problems like you wouldn't believe ... Harry Carson was out for much of the season, so LT (supposedly so disgruntled he was going to go to the USFL afterwards) had to play inside backer. Then Phil Simms, who Parcells had passed over in favor of Scott Brunner (and boy was he hated that year! I thought by the time December rolled around he might as well have legally changed his name to Scott Brunner-YouSuck. There were people who celebrated mightily when he got traded to Denver after the season), finally goes in to tremendous applause (against the Eagles, yet!) rallies the team but then breaks his hand and fingers horribly against Dennis Harrison's helmet (Another freakish occurrence for the article, perhaps?). But it worked out ... they took Carl Banks with that year's third overall pick, and he worked out much better for the Giants then either Mike Rozier or Dean Steinkuhler, stars for that year's powerhouse Nebraska team that rolled over everyone till Miami upset them at the Orange Bowl, did for the teams that picked them first. See what an interesting article this would make? Daniel Case 02:51, 21 May 2007 (UTC) Leonard Marshall GA on holdGA on hold — Notes left on talk page. --Nehrams2020 06:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
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Prose size scriptMore info needed here, which I think you know? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC) HakeemI know you're busy with a lot of stuff at the moment. Let me know what you think of my proposed changes when you get the chance. --Ubiq 20:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC) Page hit counterThanks man :) --♪♫ ĽąĦĩŘǔ ♫♪ walkie-talkie 01:18, 23 May 2007 (UTC) Thank YouI have seen your work. I admire you. I spotted outdated crap in the soy protein. Your advise on how to deal with this would be helpful. Godzilla99 05:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
MOS changesOh heck, um, I see what you're saying. Do you think that my addition of "typically" covers that? Go here to compare. Thanks for your comment. Tony 06:27, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
I increased the font size I think it looks good. What do you think? Quadzilla99 02:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
The Good Article Medal of Merit
GA barnstarThanks for the barnstar, I really appreciate it! Over this week I am going to do my best to hopefully remove a lot of the articles in the backlog. After that I want to begin working on a few GAs of my own. Keep up the good work yourself, and congratulations on your barnstar! --Nehrams2020 18:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC) TO RaptorsHi there, don't mean to trouble you, but there's been some issues raised at Wikipedia:Featured article review/Toronto Raptors. Any feedback would be welcome. Thanks. Chensiyuan 08:48, 24 May 2007 (UTC) ScandalI wouldn't have tagged a normal article unless far worse; but the MOS is supposed to be a model for us all, and as such is an embarrassment if it doesn't practise exactly what it preaches. Despite its privileged status, it has been allowed to descend into bloated, inconsistent language in too many places. The italics versus quotes is one such issue. Thanks for your support; your feedback is appreciated (not much of it there, whereas I thought there'd be sharks circling, as they did when I redid the Non-free content page). Tony 10:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC) GAC backlog elimination driveThis form message is being sent to you either due to your membership with WikiProject Good Articles and/or your inclusion on the Wikipedia:Good article candidates/List of reviewers. A new drive has been started requesting that all members review at least one article (or more, if you wish!) within the next two weeks at GAC to help in removing the large backlog. This message is being sent to all members, and even members who have been recently reviewing articles. There are almost 130 members in this project and about 180 articles that currently need to be reviewed. If each member helps to review just one or two articles, the majority of the backlog will be cleared. Since the potential amount of reviewers may significantly increase, please make sure to add :{{GAReview}} underneath the article you are reviewing to ensure that only one person is reviewing each article. Additionally, the GA criteria may have been modified since your last review, so look over the criteria again to help you to determine if a candidate is GA-worthy. If you have any questions about this drive or the review process, leave a message on the GAC talk page. --Nehrams2020 00:48, 25 May 2007 (UTC) Inasmuch as the nominator did not (FWICT) inform you, I imagine I ought to let you know that the two instant images are on IfD, viz., here and here respectively. Although I don't think any tenable FU argument can be made relative to the Pippen image (although the one you offered on the image page is more compelling than any other I've encountered for an SI cover), the MJ one is, to my mind, a bit closer of a question, although I don't think the article at present provides any real commentary on the issue depicted, and I'm not sure that any such commentary could serve an encyclopedic purpose. In any case, if you oppose the deletion of either image, you may want to weigh in at IfD. Cheers, Joe 22:56, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
Do you have time to make comments on two articlesI really like your contributions and what you have written. I have made numerous minor edits on Wikipedia and contributed significantly to two articles: Solomon Bayley and Mark Whitacre. Would you be able to take five minutes for a quick look at them and give some feedback on how I could improve these articles? I am considering to create another article soon (as I did with Solomon Bayley) but want to polish these two articles first prior to that. Thanks. ReadQT 20:32, 27 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks, re:Rock Springs MassacreeeIn regards to the Massacreee, thanks for your comments, especially helpful. I have responded to them at Talk:Rock Springs Massacre. IvoShandor 12:47, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
RE: Jeffrey JordanYeah, that would be a good idea :P. However, I do not know what we could put. He starts college sometime in the summer, since he's an athlete, but he's not a student yet. I guess, he's an alumnus of LA and prospective student, or something. Interestingly, his father, who usually maintains a low-key at most school events, actually came to the graduation. Everyone wanted to meet him, but they were kinda nervous and afraid to bother him. My grandma randomly walked up to him, said "Hello Michael", and shook his hand. :p -- ShadowJester07 ►Talk 17:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC) A questionHello, I have a question regarding what happened last time with the Michael Jackson GA review. On May 11, the review apparently ended and one of the templates in the talk page of the Jackson article stated "keep" as the result. Were you the one who closed the review? I ask because, in light of the quick renomination, nothing is likely to happen now (in fact, pretty much everyone has told Manboobies what I wrote originally and what you expounded on later; even a user who voted delist later wondered if the conversation would profit from being placed in the talk page), and so it seems we are wasting time. If you did close that review, I was wondering if you might also close this one. If not, may you direct me to the appropriate channels to ask this? Thank you very much.UberCryxic 05:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Nora Greenwald quick failI'm confused as to why it was a quick fail (as per The Undertaker's delisting) because the references are more accurate. Unlike The Undertaker, whose article only cited match win/losses, Nora's article has both primary and secondary sources including WWE.com, her DVD, interviews, and articles. In addition to citing just her wins/losses...her personal life, early life, and her thoughts about certain angles/storylines were all cited using the aforementioned sources. Could you go into a little more detail about what exactly the "referencing problems and other issues" are, so that I may possibly fix them. Thanks. Nikki311 08:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
DYK--ALoan (Talk) 13:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC) Brian Adams Quick FailI reviewed The Undertaker review you sited, and other than expanding the lead and including footnotes in the lead, to sources that are already present, I don't see how the two compare at all. I was wondering if you could help me understand what needs to be done to improve this article and why it was a quick fail? I looked through the quick fail criteria and the article seems to pass all 5 of the quick fail points. It passes WP:V and has both primary and secondary sources. It seems to me to pass WP:NPOV having no POV/peacock language issues. It has no cleanup tags, it has not been a source of edit wars and the image in it does meet Wikipedia's fair us policy. I would understand if there was some problems with the article that need to be fixed, but I'm having trouble understanding why a quick fail. Since you reviewed the article, if you could help me understand what needs to be done to make this article better so it would pass GA review I would appreciate your help! This is the first wrestler bio I have worked extensively on, I'd like to work on others (they desperately need it), but I'd like to figure out how to get this one done well first. Thanks for your time!!! - Theophilus75 16:04, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
GAN - 1990 Giants SeasonGA on hold — Notes left on talk page. Once you have addressed the comments, leave a note on my talk page and i shall be glad to re-review. Kalyan 16:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I nominated my article Tompkins Square Park Police Riot for FA statusFrom the nomination page: Hi there, I'd like to thank you for all your help on the article. I've taken ALL you've said on the discussion page very seriously and have changed eveything you pointed out over the period of months. Please check it out, it's like a totally new article! Is this OK for a FAC? Would you support it? Yours very sincerely, Black Stripe 11:41, 30 May 2007 (UTC) Thanks for feedbackI have been looking for more references for Solomon Bayley article. I will keep searching. I have contributed significantly also to the Noel Perrin article. Thanks again for your feedback, and I can learn a lot from good editors such as yourself. I have enjoyed Wikipedia since early 2005.ReadQT 15:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC) ArbitrationHello, I've requested arbitration on the disagreement over the Template:Trivia wording (and its mass application by bot). Currently at Wikipedia:Requests for Arbitration. Thanks - Tempshill 16:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
GAN - 1986 Giants SeasonGA on hold — Notes left on talk page. Once you have addressed the comments, leave a note on my talk page and i shall be glad to re-review. Kalyan 17:58, 31 May 2007 (UTC) Your contributions
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