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Mattress performance

Your recent editing history at Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight) shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

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Look in the mirror, dude. Also, you've only edited this article, so your edits reek of POV. Are you Paul?--A21sauce (talk) 02:33, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

No. And no artist like you. And not from NYC.--Cyve (talk) 02:35, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Clearly, because you treat someone suing someone else as the co-creator of the art piece! lol. And you must be German. I sense some nationalism.--A21sauce (talk) 02:41, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

No nationalism. Sorry to disappoint you. Lil bit of sarcasm maybe (recipe/cook/meal).--Cyve (talk) 02:56, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

But I got the German right. You've also got an irrational need to defend a guy who despite his intellectual talent and drive has 4 people accusing him of assault. Men just need inordinate amounts of freedom, yes?--A21sauce (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

Given your clearly expressed hostility to one of the article subjects and your stated assumption that he must be guilty, you probably shouldn't be editing that article at all. I request that you stop. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 01:03, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

It seems A21 has a POV, but from my observation, they are not the only one who seems to be editing that article from a specific POV. A21 doesn't seem particularly disruptive at the article and has been discussing concerns on talk page, so it seems not reasonable to ask them to stay away from the article entirely at this point. I also think it's ironic that this edit warring warning to A21sauce was placed by an editor who clearly violated 3RR the day in question, and was warned about it by multiple users.--BoboMeowCat (talk) 15:31, 29 April 2015 (UTC)

I'm not aware of anybody else on that article that is lashing out at supposed political opponents and generally attacking other editors because they made an edit or argument he didn't like. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 00:03, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Right because no one else has bothered to call these other people out. And look in the mirror if you want to talk about editors lashing out at people whose opinions they don't like.--A21sauce (talk) 19:04, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

^[citation needed] for that claim. Also I see above you have opined, "Men just need inordinate amounts of freedom, yes?". Likewise, I suppose women need 6-12 months after they've had a sex act before they can decide whether it was consensual or not? Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 16:10, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

A rape accusation presented as an artwork is still a rape accusation

since you made reference to an internal mental struggle you were having trying to comprehend this, perhaps the above will clear things up for you a teensy bit. Cheers! Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 23:45, 28 April 2015 (UTC)

What are you yammering on about? See, this is where it gets tricky, an editor who thinks they can read someone else's mind. And you clearly haven't done enough reading on the case it's all fresh news to you apparently anyway.--A21sauce (talk) 19:10, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

Learn to read plz kthxbye Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_blah_blah_blah) (talk) (contribs) 16:11, 3 May 2015 (UTC)

Bravura

Re: this, if you're referring to two brief off-topic comments about beer, following many serious and constructive comments on topic by the same two users, I think most would say your comment is overblown and does more harm than good. But I'll let it stand. Have a great day. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:35, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

No, it went a little further prior to that, as you well know, but hopefully you'll be more careful now;)--A21sauce (talk) 19:43, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

We are people, not robots, and we will stray from time to time. It's a matter of degree, and I really don't think the goal of that thread was hindered much. So no, I don't plan to change my behavior in talk threads, especially since you're the first to object to it in close to two years of editing. ―Mandruss ☎ 19:54, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay, then expect more comments from non-male people. Because you know Wikipedia is not unproblematic with women editors.--A21sauce (talk) 19:58, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

I did not know you were non-male. If you thought I did, it likely altered how you perceived my response, and not in a good way. Genderless identity has its downside. I now have your complaint in the correct context, and I'm interested to know, besides the two beer comments, what annoying male behavior in that thread "went a little further prior to that". ―Mandruss ☎ 22:29, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Are you saying you would've acted "more gentlemanly" had you known I wasn't a guy? Are you saying you need to know that there's a woman around to monitor you like a mom or a librarian to act properly? Please do some work, and on this: Go over again to the last 11 entries in the thread we're talking about. Read them aloud to a female friend. Your comments get much more exposure than you would ever would have doing your own blog, in return, I think we can ask that high school behavior be kept to a minimum on something serious. If this were a talk page on some toy plane there'd be different expectations. Thanks --A21sauce (talk) 17:42, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

(inserted out of turn) Wow, way to respond to a plain, direct question with childish & offensive bluster. Great Job, A21. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 14:37, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Policy violations aside, no one on this site has the right to try to impose their ideas of "proper" behavior on the group as a whole. If I have to conform my speech according to your desires, is the reverse true? If so, I respectfully ask you to refrain from showing open hostility toward your fellow editors in public spaces, because I (genuinely) find that offensive. If you feel you have a right to your demands, but I don't, don't you think that's patently hypocritical? I do. ―Mandruss ☎ 20:32, 6 June 2015 (UTC)

Upon reflection, I think I can predict that your reply, if any is given, will be along the lines of, "If men will behave like gentlemen, I promise not to be hostile in response." That is probably what I'd say in your place, and it will be hard to fault such an argument, so I'll withdraw that. But I don't think it's realistic to expect that anyone will be shamed or scolded into changing their behavior here. I've been around awhile and I've never known that to work anywhere in life. All it does is create resentment and pushback, that's just human nature. Ask a psychologist, and I think they'll support me on that. So your approach would seem to be self-defeating. ―Mandruss ☎ 00:01, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Okay, Mandruss, point taken. But remember that the right of free speech assumes a level playing field, and I just want you to think about how it really is not that, a level playing field, Wikipedia, as reflected in US media, US society. That's all. You're more sensitive than most and I appreciate that. Thanks for your thoughtfulness on the matter.--A21sauce (talk) 04:52, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Linda Nishio

Hello A21sauce,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Linda Nishio for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Arcticgriffin (talk) 22:40, 5 June 2015 (UTC)

Be careful

... with edit summaries like this. Do not accuse of someone being on someone's payroll. Learn to edit with civility. Else I'm sure administrators would find your attitude extremely heartening. —Indian:BIO ^[ ChitChat ] 04:52, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

You have been reverted more than three times by two different editors about the Christopher Ciccone quote in Madonna. Raise a discussion in talk page per wP:BRD and gain consensus, and do not WP:EW. —Indian:BIO ^[ ChitChat ] 05:14, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

I didn't revert it twice, idiot. The first was a response to SNUGGUMS claim that it was in the wrong section. Funnily, he came up with another excuse when I put it in an appropriate section.--A21sauce (talk) 05:19, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Again, maintain civility, this is my last warning to you. —Indian:BIO ^[ ChitChat ] 05:53, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

Warn away.--A21sauce (talk) 21:20, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Civility

Just because the article is about an alleged rape doesn't mean you're given extra license to make pointlessly misanthropic comments in response to acceptable talk page chatter. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 14:34, 7 June 2015 (UTC)

When you start to spend your time dealing with actual problems in the world, I'll talk to you.--A21sauce (talk) 20:39, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Fabulous, in the meantime do watch your mouth, Ms. Insults-a-lot. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 23:31, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

When you watch yours, Mr. Love-to-Control-Women-Online.--A21sauce (talk) 23:56, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Holy livid buckets of crap, you've got an attitude problem towards men. Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 00:07, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Nope, just you, sir. Find something else to do, seriously, or I'll lodge a complaint.--A21sauce (talk) 00:09, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

(posted this before I saw your template) A21, you must admit that you have repeatedly complained about men for nothing more than being male, just in that one article. You lashed out at Bus stop and someone else for 2 comments about having a beer, which was weird because women drink beer. And not for nothing but Bus stop has been a vigorous proponent for favorable treatment of Sulkowicz's side so I think he is entitled to both your courtesy and thanks for developing the article in a way that I think you favor. Anyway you can't seriously expect to exclude men and it's not really civil to keep complaining about males or maleness or WP demographics.. and accusing me of "loving to control women online", that's just rude. Anyway surely you can engage at that article without trying to institute OWS-style rules? Centrify (f / k / a Factchecker_has_annoying_username) (talk) (contribs) 00:25, 9 June 2015 (UTC)

Nishio

Hi A21, I made a start on a Linda Nishio article here, in case it helps to save it. Feel free to copy that to your user space if you want to. It's probably not enough as it is, but if you update it it might be notable enough. If you do decide to develop it, you could check with Keegan whether it's okay to restore it. Best, Sarah (SV) ^(talk) 01:44, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Thanks Slim!! I'm done with Keegan, so I'll ask someone else to restore it. --A21sauce (talk) 20:41, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Mattress affair

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I have no idea what you're talking about but since you're pretty aggro on a subject that you have admitted you care nothing about, I'll be sure to watch your actions more closely from here on out and bring you to the necessary administrator's board to get you blocked if need be.--A21sauce (talk) 18:00, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

File:OpeningDayIncheonBiennale2009.jpg

I have restored File:OpeningDayIncheonBiennale2009.jpg. It looks like when you initially uploaded it, you tagged it as being used under a claim of fair use, which is not acceptable under our image use policy. As you said in one of the edit summaries, you were confused by the templates and it looks like you inadvertently hid the source information for the image.

I will try to make it simple:

1. Am I correct in my understanding that you are the photographer and copyright holder of this image? In other words, did you hold the camera in your hands, and click the button to take the picture? I have added the template {{own}}, which is sufficient here if this picture is completely your own work.

1.a. If it is NOT your own work or if you have ever published it outside of Wikipedia, then we need to have a statement of permission from the copyright holder submitted to [e-mail]. There is a sample permission template at WP:CONSENT that can be used. (Again, this is only necessary if either (a) it is not your work or (b) you have ever published it outside of Wikipedia.)

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Thanks so much!--A21sauce (talk) 18:06, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

June 2015

Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Your edits appear to be vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. MarnetteD|Talk 20:45, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

I didn't and made my case. There's got to be some Administrator intervention on that one.--A21sauce (talk) 21:00, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

You clearly violated WP:BLP by entering false info. Please feel free to report this to any admin that you wish. You might want to read WP:BOOMERANG before doing so. MarnetteD|Talk 21:05, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

Still haven't provide backup. Why can't you listen to simple instructions?--A21sauce (talk) 22:42, 18 June 2015 (UTC)

By posts on DRN and the article talkpage, I've excused you from further editing concerning this individual. On reflecting, I don't think this situation warrants the "paperwork" and the negativity associated with formally documenting a topic-ban under the BLP discretionary sanctions, unless you insist on it, but I do instruct you to cut it out. Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:00, 19 June 2015 (UTC)

Regarding your edits to Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and subsequent appeal to WP:AN/I for support:

Whack! You've been whacked with a wet trout. Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know that you did something silly.

-- The Anome (talk) 18:39, 20 June 2015 (UTC)

 Done Love it, the Anome. An editor with a sense of humor!--A21sauce (talk) 15:32, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

Seeing this exchange, I'm wondering whether you were also trying to inject humor into the Matress Performance discussion. What do you think about merging the two articles under a new name, "Emma Sulkowicz"? I think editorially it makes sense, and arguably she's now elevated above her artwork as individual pieces alone.Mattnad (talk) 19:43, 27 June 2015 (UTC)

Don't think there's a need: Mattress Performance clearly still the more important work. Let's wait another year or so and see what else Emma comes up with.--A21sauce (talk) 17:43, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

You wouldn't know that from the efforts to have huge amounts of each article cross posted. I don't think having the Matress Performance as a sub section in an article on her diminishes its importance. Have all of her current works organized under a single article makes a lot more sense than having large overlapping sections and cross linking between the two articles. It's really the right thing to do editorially. But your views are noted. Mattnad (talk) 20:12, 28 June 2015 (UTC)

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If you get a notification that I just rolled back one of your edits, please ignore it. That was an inadvertent misclick on my so-called smart phone, and I have restored the edit. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 04:28, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Ok, thanks for notifying me.--A21sauce (talk) 18:43, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Logged out edits

In the ANI thread you started regarding MarnetteD you wrote "When the next editor undid the edit, jokingly adding that the photo, mostly of people of Asian descent couldn't have been taken in "Arkansas, Alaska, or Tennessee", MarnetteD simply undid that edit, repeating what he had said in his summary and not clarifying it." The next editor in question is 38.105.132.130 (talk · contribs), which is clearly you. Do you understand that editing while logged out in order to present yourself as two separate individuals in a dispute is against policy? --Jezebel's Ponyo^bons mots 20:21, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

A quick intersecting contributions check shows that you've violated WP:SOCK on multiple occasions. You'll make an edit as an IP, and if the edit is reverted you log in to edit war (e.g. here) and vice versa. You need to either 1) clearly identify the IP as you or 2) stop editing the same subjects while logged out.--Jezebel's Ponyo^bons mots 20:43, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

MarnetteD is pretty aggressive (Check out his "Ignore All Rules" ribbon proudly displayed in the bottom right corner here) so I thought he *might* calm down if he thought it was someone else that undid the edit. Not the case! (thanks)--A21sauce (talk) 21:02, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

"Ignore all rules" is a Wikipedia policy, and if MarnetteD is attempting to explain that you are doing something wrong then chances are you are indeed on the wrong side of policy and consensus. The policy prohibiting using multiple accounts to give the appearance of support is brightline; please ensure you abide by it moving forward.--Jezebel's Ponyo^bons mots 21:11, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Green Hornet

While I agree with your assessment that the Green Hornet cover from July 1944 was racist, that information did not belong in the Popular Culture section, since it referred to something that was actually in a Green Hornet comic (and thus belonged in the Comics section of the article). Additionally, gmail is not a valid source, and it's a useless citation, since the citation simply takes readers to their own gmail accounts. Thanks, Aristophanes68 (talk) 18:48, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

So then move the sentence to that section and put a citation needed link to it. Edit in good faith!--A21sauce (talk) 17:54, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

But unless there's a discussion of racism in GH, there's no reason to simply insert that comment in the Comics section either. Why bring it up at all if you're not going to expand on it. Yes, we know it's racist, but we also know that probably every comic from WW2 has racist depictions of Japanese on them. The sentence doesn't fit with anything else in the section, so you'll have to create the reason for adding it. Aristophanes68 (talk) 18:32, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Give me a break, Aristophanes. You are really full of it. The whole article are just lists of things. --A21sauce (talk) 18:36, 3 August 2015 (UTC)

Your edit to my talk page

This warning is not appropriate. A single edit does not constitute edit warring by any measure. Also per the article talk page, you are on pretty thin ground when your personal opinion trumps a reliable source, as well as two other editors who disagree with you. I suggest you revert your edit to my talk page.Mattnad (talk) 20:28, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

You erased what I did, repeating your own edit, and it will make you think twice about doing it again. If it doesn't keep expecting these. All up to you.--A21sauce (talk) 20:55, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

I'm not sure I follow - all you did was delete text on the basis you don't like the quoted person. I didn't erase anything. You did. Your edit was not well considered and your use of a edit warring warning was inappropriate and obnoxious. As for making me think twice, I'd do it again in heartbeat because a) I was not edit warring and b) it was good editing on my part.Mattnad (talk) 23:09, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

My deletion is considered a work, and it's only your opinion that you feel my deletion was inappropriate and thus you overrode it. Your use of Camille Paglia is just plain silly. Keep on truckin', dude. You'll get more warnings and that'll look great on your talk page.--A21sauce (talk) 23:12, 10 August 2015 (UTC)

World Trade Center

It's not a good idea to simply redirect an article like that, because it fails to preserve the history necessary for GFDL and CC attribution (see WP:HISTORYMERGE]). The question is, though, should the history go under World Trade Center (1973-2001) or the other one? hbdragon88 (talk) 15:59, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

I'll bring it up on the talk pages of both. Maybe both?--A21sauce (talk) 16:17, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

You can only select one page to move the history to. I guess World Trade Center (1973–2001) because before the split, that was the primary topic for "World Trade Center". Epic Genius (talk) 17:10, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

@A21sauce and Hbdragon88: By the way, {{split from}} and {{split to}} exist on all 4 pages, so attribution is still given via the link. Epic Genius (talk) 17:11, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

Great, thanks for ironing this out! Teamwork! Yay!--A21sauce (talk) 18:51, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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Ha! I'm open, what can I say. I really want to visit. thanks, LavaBaron.--A21sauce (talk) 18:37, 27 August 2015 (UTC)

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Star Wars genre

Thanks for voicing your opinion on the talk page, but we are still in the midst of a consensus-forming discussion. Until that discussion is closed, we shouldn't modify the content in question. Ideas or suggestions should be given at the talk page only for now.

 Not done I fixed that, if you'd just waited.--A21sauce (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

As for changing United States to US, that is unnecessary. Per MOS:U.S., the country name is not typically abbreviated when it is mentioned alongside other countries, as was the case here with Canada. Also this edit has a few other glaring issues. Originally the text stated, "It surpassed Jaws (1975) to become the highest-grossing film of all time until E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial in 1982." However, you changed it to, "It surpassed Jaws (1975) to become, until E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial in 1982, the highest-grossing film of all time." The sentence, to me, seems more awkward now. Inserting that in the middle breaks the focal point of the statement, which should be the fact that it became the highest-grossing film. If you really want to enhance it, I would suggest: "It surpassed Jaws (1975) to become the highest-grossing film of all time, a record it held until the release of E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial in 1982."

And finally, that same edit resulted in a duplication of Peter Cushing in the lead. There were a lot of errors and questionable changes, which is why I reverted them all. Per WP:BRD etiquette, you were bold with your edit and it was reverted, so a discussion of your proposed changes with either me directly or on the article's talk page would be a good idea at this point. If you'd like to discuss them here, I'm game. --GoneIn60 (talk) 21:46, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Why do I need to do this if I'm careful? I have extensive copyediting experience, thanks. Just hold tight.--A21sauce (talk) 21:50, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the major issues. I'll drop the remaining minor concerns I had, with the exception of the US abbreviation. Per the guideline I linked above, there are 2 issues. For one, it should not be abbreviated when in the same sentence as another country. So in that sentence in the lead which contains Canada, United States should be spelled out. The other issue is the abbreviation itself. If you're going to use it, then the periods are preferred when dealing with an article written in American English. --GoneIn60 (talk) 22:02, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Saturday January 16: Wikipedia Day NYC Celebration and Mini-Conference

Saturday January 16: Wikipedia Day NYC 2016

You are invited to join us at New York University for Wikipedia Day NYC 2016, a Wikipedia celebration and mini-conference as part of Wikipedia 15, the project's global 15th birthday festivities. In addition to the party, the event will be a participatory unconference, with plenary panels, lightning talks, and of course open space sessions. We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. Saturday January 16 Wikipedia Day NYC 2016 (RSVP on-wiki or at bit.ly/wikiday15). 10:00am - 7:00 pm at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts, 721 Broadway (between Waverly and Washington Place) We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 17:56, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

You can see videos from last year's Wikipedia Day here, and I'd encourage you to sign up for you own lightning talk at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC#Lightning talks.--Pharos (talk) 21:06, 4 January 2016 (UTC)

Saturday February 6 in NYC: Black Life Matters Editathon

Saturday February 6 in NYC: Black Life Matters Editathon

You are invited to join us and the AfroCROWD initiative at New York Public Library's Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture for our upcoming editathon, a part of the Black WikiHistory Month campaign. Saturday February 6 Black Life Matters Editathon (RSVP). 12:00pm - 5:00 pm at NYPL Schomburg Center, 515 Malcolm X Boulevard (Lenox Avenue), by W 135th St The Wikipedia training and editathon will take place in the Aaron Douglas Reading Room of the Jean Blackwell Hutson Research and Reference Division, with a reception following in the Langston Hughes lobby on the first floor of the building at 5:00pm. We hope to see you there!--Pharos (talk) 19:16, 1 February 2016 (UTC) (Bonus upcoming event: WikiWednesday Salon @ Babycastles - Wednesday, February 17)

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Feb 16: Art+Feminism Training / Photo-Poetics @ Guggenheim
Feb 17: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Tuesday February 16, 5:30pm: Art+Feminism Training / Photo-Poetics @ Guggenheim
You are invited to join us for an evening of social Wikipedia training and editing at the Guggenheim, with a workshop given by the Art+Feminism project to prepare for next month's major campaign, and a tour and edit-a-thon of Photo-Poetics: An Anthology. Tuesday, February 16 Art+Feminism Training / Photo-Poetics @ Guggenheim (RSVP at Eventbrite - Participants have to bring their own laptops and power cords). 5:30pm - 8:30pm at Sackler Center Media Lab, Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, 1071 Fifth Avenue; enter through 89th Street staff entrance
Wednesday February 17, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC
You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. This month, we will also host a Newcomer's Wiki Workshop for those getting started on the encyclopedia project! We will also include a look at our annual plan and budget ideas, and welcome input from community members on the sorts of projects the chapter should support through both volunteer and budgetary efforts. We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities. After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery! Wednesday December 17 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). 7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! (One talk this month will be on use of Wikipedia press passes for photographers.) Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 00:27, 11 February 2016 (UTC)

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Nomination of Paul Newell (politician) for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Paul Newell (politician) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Alvi Fokou Fopa date of birth

The article you put both July 6 and May 19, which is right? Thanks. Wgolf (talk) 22:40, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks--A21sauce (talk) 04:54, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Alvi Fokou Fopa

Hello, A21sauce. I wanted to let you know that I’m proposing an article that you started, Alvi Fokou Fopa, for deletion because I don't think it meets our criteria for inclusion. If you don't want the article deleted, please leave a note on my talk page, and we'll discuss the page. ThePlatypusofDoom (talk) 22:43, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Deletion Discussion: Columbia University Rape Controversy

Hi,

I'm sending a notice because you previously participated in a move discussion on the page for Mattress Performance (Carry that weight). A new article was created Columbia University rape controversy as a spinout entry, and there is an ongoing discussion regarding whether the article should be kept, moved, merged, or deleted. Letting you know in case you want to put your two cents in. Thanks. Nblund (talk) 23:03, 7 May 2016 (UTC)

Thanks Nblund--A21sauce (talk) 03:48, 8 May 2016 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Vito Schnabel

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I have no attachment to this article so if it must be done...--A21sauce (talk) 19:05, 9 June 2016 (UTC)

Sunday July 10: WikNYC Picnic @ Central Park

Sunday July 10, 3-8pm: WikNYC Picnic

You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Manhattan's Central Park, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck. Sunday July 10 WikNYC Picnic (RSVP) (also on meetup.com) 3–8pm - come by any time! The picnicking area is the southwest section of the Great Lawn, north of the Delacorte Theater, just inside the park at Central Park West between 81st & 82nd. Enter the park at West 81st St. Look for us by the Wikipedia / Wikimedia NYC banner! Subway: 81st Street – Museum of Natural History, C Line We hope to see you there! --Pharos (talk) 14:54, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

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August 17: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday Auugust 17, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. Featuring special guest presentations on WikiVerse and Bringing Wikipedia to the Last Mile. We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Wikipedia editors and new participants. We will also follow up on plans for recent (UN Women!) and upcoming edit-a-thons, and other outreach activities. We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery! Wednesday August 17 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). 7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 137 West 14th Street We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 23:19, 16 August 2016 (UTC) P.S. Prep for our chapter elections next month in September (and add your candidacy!): Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Elections

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