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Welcome, welcome, welcome 1AmNobody24! I'm glad that you are joining the November 2024 drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.
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There are few things to consider for the edit you made: First is the fact that you copied the text from his website which is a no-go. It's a copyright violation. You should write text in your own words, not copy it from somewhere. Second is the fact that the text is quite promotional and uses PEACOCK terms, which should also be avoided. I recommend that you take a look at Help:Your first article and Help:Getting started to learn how a basic article should be written. Nobody (talk) 17:43, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by DoubleGrazing was:
This draft's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article. In summary, the draft needs multiple published sources that are:
in-depth (not just brief mentions about the subject or routine announcements)
Make sure you add references that meet all four of these criteria before resubmitting. Learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue. If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.
Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.
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Hi DoubleGrazing (congrats on admin btw), I agree that the current sources are clearly not in-depth, but I'm wondering how many in-depth I should search for before resubmitting, 2-4 or more? Thanks Nobody (talk) 09:01, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi (and thanks!), we usually want to see three solid sources that meet the WP:GNG standard; while that's not a hard and fast rule, for companies and other organisations it in practice probably is the minimum. Best, -- DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:29, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
hello good day I want to have and register my official and personal page on Wikipedia, and whenever I search in Google, my name will be displayed on my Wikipedia. What steps should I take to register myself in the best way? --Official Hesameddin Karami (talk) 12:25, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Editing about a Swiss Botanist at the moment. There is a source I wanted to check out, but it seems to be physical only for the journal, which is in Switzerland (go figure). I wanted to see if you, or if someone else you know in proximity, could rent out the journal? I know its a long shot, but figured I'd see if a Swiss member would be able.
Thank you so much! I was seemingly only getting one hit for that, acting as loop as it brought me back to that first link! I appreciate your help! ChemicalBear (talk) 18:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Follow-up question. Would you know of a good way to cite resting places? There is clearly his gravestone (which was provided through FindAGrave (which is on the no-no list for sourcing)) on the article page, however none of my obituaries from journals give his resting place (from what I can see/ascertain from my German skills) ChemicalBear (talk) 18:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Most of the times you can't really add the resting place either because there's no reliable source or because it's not WP:DUE. Given that there's already a image of the gravestone on the article, the sentece is probably not needed. Nobody (talk) 18:42, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Question from GoodboyAms (12:28, 11 November 2024)
Because there's a difference between Privatdozent and Lecturer. His title was Privatdozent, so he wasn't just a lecturer. The sources say he teached National economy not just economics, why shoud we use less detailed wording when we have the sources to back it up? If someone asks you what you ate, you also say "a steak" and not just "meat" or "food". Nobody (talk) 07:07, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
After reading the article for for Privatdozent, I went to the Deutsch article to see if there was more info, Privatdozent is literally akin to a Senior lecturer. The phrase splitting hairs comes to mind.
The source states Nationalökonomie which if we aren't going to interpret words into English is more precisely Volkswirtschaftslehre [de]. The English Wiki doesn't have an article that lines up with it either.
My point is, "he was a senior lecturer of economics", is an adequate statement.
It's adequate, but less precise. I get that it could impact the readability based on the reader, so I'm not sure what's the best practice in a case like this. Nobody (talk) 09:17, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If we are gonna be sticklers for his professional position. His expertise in a unique field of economics should also be maintained. At least until someone can properly translate or create an article for that economic concept in the English wiki. RCSCott91 (talk) 18:18, 20 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Is there any problem if I use the source in this format?:
Kizu was born in Hakodate in 1830 and was a tailor by trade. Iosif Goshkevich, the Russian consul in Japan, visited his shop and asked him to make Western cloth. Although Kizu accepted his request, he took one of his suits as sample as he had never made Western suit. Thus, he made the first Western suit in Japan and expanded his business by specializing in this field.
After some time, Kizu traveled to his hometown in Echigo Province. He bought the camera he saw on the ship he was traveling in exchange for a bear skin. However, he did not manage to take a photo with the camera. Since Goshkevich was an amateur photographer, he asked him to teach him what he knew about photography when he returned to Hakodate. As Kizu's clothing business was failing, he decided to open his own photography studio in Hakodate in 1864.Cosmic Bardutora!07:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Доброго дня, я не можу зрозуміти чому моя сторінка вікі Kage no Jitsuryokusha ni Naritakute! не відображається що я її робив і чи не могли б перевірити її --ReychU (talk) 08:24, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Все я зрозумів, в мене є прохання чи не могли б ви перевірити на візуальні помилки мою статтю і в розділі манга повинно йти перший під абзац і табличка далі текст з спін оффом і друга таблика ReychU (talk) 08:55, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It could use more inline references, but otherwise it looks alright. Since I don't really speak ukrainian I can't help you with adding text. Nobody (talk) 09:23, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Зрозумів тоді чи можете в підзаголовку манга в мене є дві таблички і вони чомусь об'єдналися в один шаблон чи можна це виправити? ReychU (talk) 09:26, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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You can thank Twinkle for this notification. I've just warned them for removing speedy deletion templates. If they didn't know before that "their" article is getting deleted, they know now. And yeah, I agree, it's probably a UPE situation. I dream of horses(Hoofprints)(Neigh at me)07:35, 29 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I came across many articles where you find Many Famous People, but there are no details about their spouses. Recently, I searched about the Austrian empire, but there is very little information about their family's feminine Side. I really want to Contribute To that Perspective and Guide you through It.
@Ahsanrazakhokhar (talk page watcher) One obstacle is that women tend to not be noted (systemic misogyny...it's a thing), which is something you need to get an article on Wikipedia. On top of that, if a notable person has a living, low-profile spouse, we need to respect their privacy.
Yeah But Slowly and with Thorug Research. This issue just pushed me to come to wikipedia to add some thing to the written history. I am still learning the ways to edit and add the details. I hope By Your Mentorship I ll be able to. Make some contributions. Ahsanrazakhokhar (talk) 23:17, 30 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi--please click on the history of User talk:LCOSEPA to see what all I had to oversight. When you run into a clear case of logged-out editing, please notify them and maybe alert an administrator. Thank you, Drmies (talk) 16:34, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Drmies, I was at Special:EmailUser/Oversight writing, when I saw that you were supressing the edits, so I didn't send the Mail. I wasn't sure if the logged-out editing itself was enough, due to WP:LOGGEDOUT. I've sent mails to oversight for logged-out editing in the past and was told that unless they said themself that they didn't want to show the IP, it isn't an oversight issue. What's your take on this? Nobody (talk) 06:15, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey--interesting. Well, I think when I click on the "oversight" menu it's the second option, which I think means "pretty clearly to be oversighted" and WP:OSPOL is clear too, so I don't know why they told you that. Maybe I got my policy all wrong, but I doubt that. In this case the thing is also that using the "reply" function says "reply to IP", meaning there is also another edit summary to oversight. So in this case I had to suppress edit summaries, their auto-signature, and the actual IP. It's kind of like using rollback on someone with an offensive username: it adds another thing to clean up, which is why in such cases I go fully manual. You try to do the right thing but there are unintended consequences. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know about that, and yes, I have not heard that we should somehow leave it to the editor to decide--imagine having a conversation with them about it and explaining it, making even more edits that need to be cleaned up... Drmies (talk) 13:35, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Don't take this too seriously. Someone just wants to let you know you did something silly.
Well, here you have done the hard way like I did various times elsewhere at EFFPR and I regretted that, and you should have too. Anyway, I would appreciate it if you do not leak private filters' details again, thank you. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk07:08, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Meh, I don't consider it a regret, more like a learning experience and a reminder on staying vigilant when talking about filters. Nobody (talk) 07:12, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Self-note for me: never talk about private filters in public again but run for EFM again next year. Unfortunately, I'm not going to run for Meta adminship due to being busy with college and elsewhere, and I must regain the trust of some edit filter regulars first. That's priority. Codename Noreste 🤔 Talk07:17, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
There's no need to rush currently either, while the number of EFMs active on enwiki could be higher, it's not to the point that stuff gets missed, so you can take your time. People like consistency and experience, so it's time to work on that for now. Nobody (talk) 07:21, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
Technical documentation contributors can find updated resources, and new ways to connect with each other and the Wikimedia Technical Documentation Team, at the Documentation hub on MediaWiki.org. This page links to: resources for writing and improving documentation, a new #wikimedia-techdocs IRC channel on libera.chat, a listing of past and upcoming documentation events, and ways to request a documentation consultation or review. If you have any feedback or ideas for improvements to the documentation ecosystem, please contact the Technical Documentation Team.
Updates for editors
Layout change for the Edit Check feature
Later this week, Edit Check will be relocated to a sidebar on desktop. Edit check is the feature for new editors to help them follow policies and guidelines. This layout change creates space to present people with new Checks that appear while they are typing. The initial results show newcomers encountering Edit Check are 2.2 times more likely to publish a new content edit that includes a reference and is not reverted.
The Chart extension, which enables editors to create data visualizations, was successfully made available on MediaWiki.org and three pilot wikis (Italian, Swedish, and Hebrew Wikipedias). You can see a working examples on Testwiki and read the November project update for more details.
Translators in wikis where the mobile experience of Content Translation is available, can now discover articles in Wikiproject campaigns of their interest from the "All collection" category in the articles suggestion feature. Wikiproject Campaign organizers can use this feature, to help translators to discover articles of interest, by adding the <page-collection> </page-collection> tag to their campaign article list page on Meta-wiki. This will make those articles discoverable in the Content Translation tool. For more detailed information on how to use the tool and tag, please refer to the step-by-step guide. [1]
The Nuke feature, which enables administrators to mass delete pages, now has a multiselect filter for namespace selection. This enables users to select multiple specific namespaces, instead of only one or all, when fetching pages for deletion.
The Nuke feature also now provides links to the userpage of the user whose pages were deleted, and to the pages which were not selected for deletion, after page deletions are queued. This enables easier follow-up admin-actions. Thanks to Chlod and the Moderator Tools team for both of these improvements. [2]
The Editing Team is working on making it easier to populate citations from archive.org using the Citoid tool, the auto-filled citation generator. They are asking communities to add two parameters preemptively, archiveUrl and archiveDate, within the TemplateData for each citation template using Citoid. You can see an example of a change in a template, and a list of all relevant templates. [3]
Last week, all wikis had problems serving pages to logged-in users and some logged-out users for 30–45 minutes. This was caused by a database problem, and investigation is ongoing. [5]
View all 19 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, a bug in the Add Link feature has been fixed. Previously, the list of sections which are excluded from Add Link was partially ignored in certain cases. [6][7]
Updates for technical contributors
Codex, the design system for Wikimedia, now has an early-stage implementation in PHP. It is available for general use in MediaWiki extensions and Toolforge apps through Composer, with use in MediaWiki core coming soon. More information is available in the documentation. Thanks to Doğu for the inspiration and many contributions to the library. [8]
Wikimedia REST API users, such as bot operators and tool maintainers, may be affected by ongoing upgrades. On December 4, the MediaWiki Interfaces team began rerouting page/revision metadata and rendered HTML content endpoints on testwiki from RESTbase to comparable MediaWiki REST API endpoints. The team encourages active users of these endpoints to verify their tool's behavior on testwiki and raise any concerns on the related Phabricator ticket before the end of the year, as they intend to roll out the same change across all Wikimedia projects in early January. These changes are part of the work to replace the outdated RESTBase system.
The 2024 Developer Satisfaction Survey is seeking the opinions of the Wikimedia developer community. Please take the survey if you have any role in developing software for the Wikimedia ecosystem. The survey is open until 3 January 2025, and has an associated privacy statement.
Question from AnaisMcduffie (02:59, 10 December 2024)
Hello I’m Anais and is there something I can watch to tell me how to edit because I only did it once or twice before and I don’t remember how to do it --AnaisMcduffie (talk) 02:59, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rotenfluebahn, which you submitted to Articles for creation, has been created.
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November 2024 WikiProject Unreferenced articles backlog drive – award
Citation Barnstar
This award is given in recognition to 1AmNobody24 for collecting more than 27.0 points during the WikiProject Unreferenced articles's NOV24 backlog drive. Your contributions played a crucial role in sourcing over 8,000 unsourced articles during the drive. Thank you so much for participating and helping to reduce the backlog! – DreamRimmer Alt (talk) 17:52, 12 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Deine Hilfe bei der Übersetzung wird sehr geschätzt. Übersetzer wie du helfen dabei, dass Meta eine wirklich mehrsprachige Gemeinschaft ist.
Wenn du dich abmelden oder deine Benachrichtigungseinstellungen für Übersetzungen ändern möchtest, rufe bitte Special:TranslatorSignup auf.
Vielen Dank,
die Übersetzungskoordinatoren von Meta, 11:52, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Tech News: 2024-51
Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Weekly highlight
Interested in improving event management on your home wiki? The CampaignEvents extension offers organizers features like event registration management, event/wikiproject promotion, finding potential participants, and more - all directly on-wiki. If you are an organizer or think your community would benefit from this extension, start a discussion to enable it on your wiki today. To learn more about how to enable this extension on your wiki, visit the deployment status page.
Updates for editors
Users of the iOS Wikipedia App in Italy and Mexico on the Italian, Spanish, and English Wikipedias, can see a personalized Year in Review with insights based on their reading and editing history.
Users of the Android Wikipedia App in Sub-Saharan Africa and South Asia can see the new Rabbit Holes feature. This feature shows a suggested search term in the Search bar based on the current article being viewed, and a suggested reading list generated from the user’s last two visited articles.
The global reminder bot is now active and running on nearly 800 wikis. This service reminds most users holding temporary rights when they are about to expire, so that they can renew should they want to. See the technical details page for more information.
The next issue of Tech News will be sent out on 13 January 2025 because of the end of year holidays. Thank you to all of the translators, and people who submitted content or feedback, this year.
View all 27 community-submitted tasks that were resolved last week. For example, a bug was fixed in the Android Wikipedia App which had caused translatable SVG images to show the wrong language when they were tapped.
Updates for technical contributors
There is no new MediaWiki version next week. The next deployments will start on 14 January. [10]
Question from Emmynation (16:43, 18 December 2024)
Hello dear,
I'm Emmanuel a web designer from Nigeria, how can i integrate data with elsevier.com and scopus.com to be able to create my own social media app --Emmynation (talk) 16:43, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
censorship of cats using their tongues for grooming their fur on Cat Anatomy.
I noticed that the entry for tongue does not mention that cats use their tongues for grooming. I found peer-reviewed citations, but you remove the information. Rather than censoring the information, why do not you take this up on the talk-page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.239.209 (talk) 20:47, 18 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Good afternoon Sir Nobody, I hope that this message discovers you in a state that is in no way negative. I have no plans to edit. I don’t you’re here. lmao --Fl1Ntl00cKOoD$ (talk) 00:35, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Top AfC Editor
The Articles for Creation Barnstar 2024 Top Editor
Hello 1AmNobody24, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025. Happy editing, Abishe (talk) 22:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hello everyone, and welcome to the 26th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 August 2024. At press time, over 94% of the world has legally fallen prey to the merry celebrations of "Christmas", and so shall you soon. It's been a quiet 4 months, and we hope to see you with way more new scripts next year. Happy holidays! Aaron Liu (talk) 05:06, 25 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Got anything good? Tell us about your new, improved, old, or messed-up script here!
Featured script
Very useful for changelist patrollers, DiffUndo, by Nardog, is this edition's featured script. Taking inspiration from WP:AutoWikiBrowser's double-click-to-undo feature, it adds an undo button to every line of every diff from "show changes", optimizing partial reverts with your favorite magic spell and nearly fulfilling m:Community Wishlist/Wishes/Partial revert undo.
Miscellaneous
Doğu/Adiutor, a recent WP:Twinkle/WP:RedWarn-like userscript that follows modern WMF UI design, is now an extension. However, its sole maintainer has left the project, which still awaits WMF mw:code stewardship (among some audits) to be installed on your favorite WMF wikis.
DannyS712, our former chief editor, has ascended to MediaWiki and the greener purpley pastures of PHP with commits creating Special:NamespaceInfo and the __EXPECTUNUSEDTEMPLATE__ magic word to exclude a template from Special:UnusedTemplates! I wonder if Wikipedia has a templaters' newsletter...
BilledMammal/Move+ needs updating to order list of pages handle lists of pages to move correctly regardless of the discussion's page, so that we may avoid repeating fiasco history.
Andrybak/Unsigned helper forks Anomie/unsignedhelper to add support for binary search, automatic edit summaries after generating the {{unsigned}} template, support for {{undated}}, and support for generating while syntax highlighting is on.
Polygnotus/Move+ updates BilledMammal's classic Move+ to add automattic watchlisting of all pages—except the target page(s)—changed while processing a move.
