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Hello

Hope you are well. I've been following some of your lists. I was curious to see if you would be interested in working on building a list of yachts that have been/are being seized due to sanctions? This would include all yachts, regardless of length, and sail or motor. This is a growing trend, and yachts seem to be the face of the effort. I suspect it could grow into a lengthy list, certainly worth creating and maintaining until the sanctions come to an end, (or they run out of yachts to grab).

I have already made note of at least eight yachts (so far) on on the List of motor yachts by length, we could also use the list of 60 to 75M boats that was saved in the talk page archives (should be quite a few in that range), and perhaps even some from the List of large sailing yachts, such as Sailing Yacht "A"). For now, I've created a re-direct to the ships I noted on the m/y length list. I do think a decent sized list could be created, and along with the right prose, (and a maybe a different page title), this could be a worthwhile article. Anyway... lemme know. Cheers - wolf 05:15, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thewolfchild:, I think that would be a great idea and could be a very interesting topic to other people aswell. Though I do think it is important to make a clear distinction between seized, arested or detained. The traditional media uses those terms sort of interchangeable which they are not. I don/t know if you're familiar with eSysman's Youtube channel, in case you're not, he has explained it a couple of times in his videos. But yes, I do think this could be a worthwhile article indeed. Although unfortunately I don't think I will have much time to work on it in the short term because of my dayjob (which funnily enough, also has something to do with yachts). Ciao - User:102Legobrick 20:16, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I've added a paragraph with some info and links to the note section (for now, but once all this is over with, I think it should come of that page). I agree it would be helpful to differentiate among those terms some. (And I do watch eSysman... very good content). Anyway, if you find some time and think you like to work on a article about the seizures, let me know. Cheers - wolf 20:53, 29 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Okay.. so I've been thinking about it and came up with this table. Maybe there is a better way of doing this, but in my defence I made it fairly quickly. I used M/Y Amadea as an example, as she has been one of the first major yachts to have actually been seized. I don't think builders and country of origin for the yachts are not as important for this list, but could be added. The table name could be something like: Yachts seized

Name	Owner	Status		Photo	Refs
		Date	Action
Amadea	Suleyman Kerimov	04 May 2022	Arrested	Picture of yacht
		27 May 2022	Seized

Let me know what you think. Ciao - User:102Legobrick 07:26, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Perhaps there could be additional cells for "country" (that seized the yacht), "released" (back to owner), "auctioned", (with date) "new owner", (if available), and "auction price" (if available). Also, you have any ideas for the page title, and the lead? No rush, the yacht grabbing and ensuing litigation will being going on for quite some time to come. Cheers - wolf 12:35, 30 June 2022 (UTC)[reply]

I think it would better if you do something like this:

Name	Owner	Status				Photo	Refs
		Date	Action	By	Result
Amadea	Suleyman Kerimov	04 May 2022	Arrested	Fiji	EXAMPLE Amadea was auctioned of on 1 July 2022 for $100.000.000 to (name new owner if known)	Picture of yacht
		27 May 2022	Seized	United States
		01 July 2022	Auctioned	United States

When you do a cell for every item a lot will stay empty because not every yacht will see the same actions taken against it. As for a title maybe something along the lines of Yachts impacted by the Russian invasion of Ukraine and as a lead perhaps the most basic explanation of what is going on with the war in Ukraine and why these yachts are sanctioned (basically to hurt the rich people around Putin so they will turn their backs on him). Ciao - User:102Legobrick 20:58, 01 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Thewolfchild:, Following our discussion I went ahead and created a page, Yachts impacted by international sanctions following the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Feel free to add or change stuff. Ciao - User:102Legobrick 19:54, 03 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi Onel5969, I've added a multiple sources to the article and put it up for review. It would be appreciated if you could review it again. 102Legobrick (talk) 21:03, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Nice job, I moved it back into mainspace. Still needs a couple of sources in the directors section. Onel5969 ^TT me 21:18, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi LordVoldemort728, I've added a source to the article and put it up for for review. It would be appreciated if you could review it again. 102Legobrick (talk) 21:01, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi LordVoldemort728, I've added a source to the article and put it up for for review. It would be appreciated if you could review it again. 102Legobrick (talk) 21:02, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Set Index pages

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Hi, English Wikipedia uses commas (","), or whatever you call it, as a thousands separator, not points, per MOS:DIGITS. The ship certainly displaces 16 thousand, 500 tons (16,500), not 16 and a half tons (16.5). See this source which you presumably used when writing the article. Note that the headline uses the comma: "The Italian Navy plans to purchase three new 16,500-ton amphibious ships". I actually did check the sources before making my corrections the first time. Please don't revert this again without discussing it first. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 22:22, 10 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]

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Aircraft carrier doesn't need hull number?

Hello 102Legobrick. There is a proposal at WP:RMTR to drop the hull number from USS William J. Clinton.

USS William J. Clinton (CVN-82) (currently a redirect to USS William J. Clinton) → USS William J. Clinton – Simplifying title, no need to have the hull number in the article name if no other ship has the name, per consensus GGOTCC (talk) 01:23, 15 January 2025 (UTC)

Do you have an opinion on this? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 04:53, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@EdJohnston: Hello, (tps here), sorry to barge in, but yes there apparently was a "consensus" by a small band of editors some years back that hull numbers, as opposed to being a part of the ship name, were merely disambiguators for ships that share the same name. Therefore names that have only been used on one ship don't need dabs and the hull numbers were removed. Now we have some ship articles with, and some without, hull numbers. IMHO it looks ridiculous, but this band is dug in, this has now been written into the rules and they vehemently oppose any change. I wasn't there for the initial discussion, but I believe BilCat was, and may have more info (or more accurate info). Hope this helps. - wolf 08:36, 17 January 2025 (UTC) (talk page stalker)[reply]

I replaced the copy of the move request above with the full HTML version so that the links work. The move has now been carried out as a technical request by another editor. If the hull number is not often used to look up any information it does appear to me to me to be lower priority for inclusion in the page title. EdJohnston (talk) 20:09, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

As the guy who moved the article, I did so per WP:NC-SHIPS, which is in line with the general rule that the article title should be as short as resonable. Currently, US ship names with only one vessel, such as William J. Clinton, would have USS [Name] (Hull #) redirected to just USS (Name). For ship names with several vessels, ie. Enterprise, the hull number is kept in the title. This is the same reason why the title of an HMS article would only contain the year of launch if there are several ships of the same name.

When it comes to looking up ships, the hull number is usually only relevant when adding context to a vessel or disambiguity between those of the same name. Today, any refrence to "USS William J. Clinton" would be to CVN-82.

I am not an absolutist, and I will be willing to undo my move if others object regardless of NC-SHIPS. GGOTCC (talk) 20:32, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]