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Bad bot behavior

As of this writing, the bot known as Yobot (talk · contribs) is replacing all instances of <em> HTML code it finds with '' wikimarkup, which is just plain wrong ('' is equivalent to <i> HTML code, not the <em> element). There are probably others, as there are certainly editors who do this semi-automatedly with AWB. — SMcCandlish Talk⇒ ʕ(^Õل^ō)ˀ Contribs. 10:08, 29 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

SMcCandlish, please explain to me the difference in final appearance to any reader between these:

1. "Contrary to reports, she was not dead after all." (em template)
2. "Contrary to reports, she was not dead after all." (wikimarkup)

Other than the (invisible and totally irrelevant to others) motivation of the editor, I don't know of any difference. Please explain why we should use this template rather than normal wikimarkup. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 19:14, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Read the HTML specs. It has little to do with visual appearance but rather with semantic meaning. Any WP content can be reused, in ways we cannot predict. Screen readers for the visually impaired can also be configured to treat this markup differently, e.g. by producing vocal emphasis on <em> and nothing special on '' (<i>). This is definitely bad bot and meatbot behavior, contrary to MOS:ITALIC, MOS:EMPHASIS.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:50, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the explanation about Semantic web. -- Valjean (talk) (PING me) 22:02, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

NP, but I have to point out that the template's own documentation already covers this in more detail.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  23:52, 12 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Template-protected edit request on 22 April 2016

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Remove the unnecessary <noinclude>s, because "onlyinclude" already takes care of it. See Template:Em/testcases.

But then again, this edit is extremely minor, and I would understand if this is declined :) — Andy W. (talk · contrib) 20:25, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

 Done, comletely superflous. -- [[User:Edokter]] {{talk}} 21:16, 22 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

"non-quoted sentences that end in an exclamation point"

From the documentation:

Usually avoid using {{em}} in non-quoted sentences that end in an exclamation point.

Such sentences should rarely exist in an encyclopedia, right? For what it's worth, They Call Me Mister Tibbs! uses an underline. ―cobaltcigs 05:44, 1 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Templates like this are for broader use than inside article content. E.g. in project pages.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  21:52, 10 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]