Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Australian politics

Requested move at Talk:2024 Australian Capital Territory general election#Requested move 19 October 2024

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:2024 Australian Capital Territory general election#Requested move 19 October 2024 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. Alpha3031 (t • c) 13:39, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Should Party Faction go at the start of the article or another section

It's not clear or consistent throughout the Australian politicians wikipedia pages where the Faction they are part of should go in the article. Sometimes it's in the top section other times at in the 'Political Views' section. I am personally in favour of it being at the top as it is very relevant and arguably a big influence on the politician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlueMountainPanther (talk • contribs) 07:50, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's more of a second paragraph thing, being important but not "In X political party, From X location" kinda stuff.
If it is in the first parra it should probably be like "Member of the Labor party, sitting within the Left Faction" or something. DirectorDirectorDirector (talk) 11:14, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Unless a politician's political faction is an important facet of their biography, like they are a factional powerbroker or lost out on a cabinet position due to their faction or some other reason, no, the political faction should not be mentioned in the lead. Elsewhere in the article is ok though. Steelkamp (talk) 09:20, 24 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Notification of requested move: Alleged CIA involvement in the Whitlam dismissal

An editor has requested that Alleged CIA involvement in the Whitlam dismissal be moved to CIA involvement in the Whitlam dismissal, which may be of interest to this WikiProject. You are invited to participate in the move discussion. GeebaKhap (talk) 06:28, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Created Alluvial Diagrams for all seats on the Results pages for the 2022 election

Hi all, I have created alluvial diagrams for all seats and put them on the results page, for example Results of the 2022 Australian federal election in Victoria. This means most will show up on the seat pages as they are excerpted from the results pages, except those with by-elections since then, I haven't made any for those, it'd be slightly more annoying but possible to do that. Please tell me what you think and if the images or layout can be improved! This was done using a semi-automated process, so any updates would be relatively trivial to accomplish. Eventually, I'd like to do this via a fully automated bot, which is not that technically hard, but the approval process is somewhat lengthy. The one thing I think is missing is the flow values, however its very hard to fit them all in with a varying amount of candidates, I was thinking maybe just do flow values for the last round or two.

Alluvial diagram for preference flows in the seat of Brisbane in the 2022 federal election. checkY indicates at what stage the winning candidate had over 50% of the votes and was declared the winner.

</MarkiPoli> <talk /><cont /> 15:10, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Independents in Infobox

Several Australian governments have been propped up and supported by Indi over the years and they play a major role in Australian political history and how our government has worked.

The current RfC and Consencus on minor parties states that 1 member of a political party is enough for their inclusion. By a bloc of independents (The teals) despite in a minority government situation playing a larger role than parties such as the Greens or KAP they are excluded from many of the Info boxes.

I don't see them taking up much space at all, and if people think the large IND symbol is too large there are other creative ways of including that information in the info box like simply having "Number of Independents". I think for the average viewer and reader this information is important and not including them places WP:UNDUE on minor parties such as the greens. DirectorDirectorDirector (talk) 17:07, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Are you talking about the infoboxes on the election articles? I personally agree that independents should be included in the infobox somehow. If you could post a mockup of what that would look like here, then it would be easier for people here to give an opinion. Steelkamp (talk) 07:09, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The infobox metadata covers parties. Are independents a party or are they independent of parties and each other? Data on how many independents won seats is elsewhere on the page and information on the rare cases where independents contributed to the formation of a government is in the prose. Both of these are adequate at conveying this information without clogging up the infoboxes. A case could be made for groups of independents that campaigned together and co-operate afterwards like the teals in 2022 though.Kiwichris (talk) 11:42, 28 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe the purpose of the info box is for the average reader to look at and get a general idea on the election.
I think having for example in the 2010 Australian federal election, 2016 Australian federal election, 2019 Australian federal election, and 2022 Australian federal election Indis had more seats in the parli than many or sometimes every minor party combined. I think it's important to a reader to see em. Especially now when we have 10 Indis who also in some cases aligned like the teals.
Then for the 2025 Australian federal election/Rolling "Next Election" page it's important for a reader to know "Oh so if labor loses x number of seats they can still form government with Indis" DirectorDirectorDirector (talk) 15:46, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think the two ways would be one of these. User:DirectorDirectorDirector/sandbox. However I'm very much sure some one can think of a prettier option for the second option. But maybe that would require requesting to edit the template. DirectorDirectorDirector (talk) 15:23, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]