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Since the guide is in my userspace, no one else can delete it with out good reason. I have no intention to delete it either, though it may get moved one day into the Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games space. It should't be hard to find either way.
I'll try to get to Alien Crossfire's talk page sometime over the weekend or next week. As you may have noticed, I'm semi-retired. What that amounts to is that I do things very slowly. :-\
Ooh, it was a little while ago that I edited Alien Crossfire (and possibly Alpha Cent. as well). I did mainly grammar and touchup changes, but I'd be glad to look over what you write and help polish it once you've revised the articles.Peyre (talk) 18:08, 7 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You asked me what I wrote about SMAC. It was about base size being a signed char (or signed octet) which made it possible to overflow from base size from 127 to -128. You can reproduce this by assigning food sources and building the orbital food sources for a base. I found this with the patch that had the jungle installed. If you build a base in middle of the jungle, it will produce enough food that building as many orbital food sources as you can the base size will overflow. I don't know if this bug is in SMAX as I don't have it and so have never played it.
I edited that article 16 months ago just to link the page to MobyGames. What, are you copy-pasting messages to every single user that ever edited those pages? Kevin (talk) 03:51, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I notice you contacted dozens of people about this. Wasn't there enough feed back from editors already there? Why not contact recent contributors or whoever made large contributions? Of if its just about the external links, talk to those who added or changed them. Seems odd to contact so many people. Are you planning on working on anything but the external links section? DreamFocus05:56, 9 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've been making tiny tweaks to the language on SMAC -- I'm a fiddler and a polisher after others do the heavy lifting for the most part. Let me know if there are any specific areas where you want to see a little extra linguistic lacquer, in this article or others you are working on -- I'm pretty comfortable working with you on that level. Cheers! Eponymous (fnord) 16:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
RE:What is the process for promoting an article from Start Class to C Class?
Guidelines for assessments are located at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment. To have the article reassed, you can put in a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Assessment/Requests. In response to a request, an assessor will review the article and generally post notes about their decision on the talk page. If the article meets certain certain quality criteria, then notes may be sparse or unnecessary.
In regard to suggestions to improve the article:
I recommend fleshing out the "Reception" section first. I recommend checking other sources listed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Sources. These are considered reliable for video game articles. Find whatever reviews you can and paraphrase the writer's comments with proper attribution: writer's name, publication, and citation.
"[NAME] of [PUBLICATION] praised the graphical detail.[#]"
Once that's done, the "Development" section needs work. The process is similar to the reception section. Though instead of a writer's opinion, you're looking for news pertaining to production details: inspirations, processes, deadlines, time frames, etc. And again, the content should be properly attributed with citations:
"[DEVELOPER] spent X years/months developing the game.[#]"
The "Gameplay" section is too detailed. Trim it down to the bare essentials. Just keep in mind that the reader doesn't need to know how to play the game to understand how it works.
Remove unsourced statements and original research. Just keep Wikipedia:Verifiability in mind. Readers have to be able to verify content. Simple statements like "Alpha Centauri is a video game" do not need sourcing because this is very easily verifiable. But others like "Chiron is an homage to James P. Hogan's 1982 space opera novel Voyage from Yesteryear..." are very specific and require a citation to a reliable source.
Organization would be good to reduce excess sub-headings. Some sections can be combined into other sections to reduce undue-weight and give better context.
Factions → Stoyline or Gameplay
Fiction and Modification → Legacy
Availability → Development
Expansion → Legacy or Development depending on the content
I gave the article a quick sweep and it has greatly improved. I'll try to give the article a copy edit sometime this week. Once all the work is done, it might have a chance to reach Good article. Keep up the good work. (Guyinblack25talk21:19, 29 June 2010 (UTC))[reply]
If you're still working on the article, then I'll wait until you're done.
A few quick suggestions:
I think you'll be fine without citations in the lead. The rest of the article that is cited will be able to back it up.
Gameplay is probably too bare bones.
I'd combine short paragraphs to make larger ones. 1–2 sentence paragraphs are too short to stand on their own.
Just letting you know that I have not forgotten your request. Some project discussions and a GAN sidetracked me this past week. I'll look at the article as soon as I can. (Guyinblack25talk17:58, 12 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]
Vyeh hasn't been on in a couple months, so I'll try to answer. I don't know what he wanted copyedited, just that the article needs to be at GA level. I've never took an article to GA before, so do you see anything that needs to be fixed before I nominate it? Nolelover It's football season!17:58, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As you're already aware, "GA" on Wikipedia typically refers to a "Good article". To obtain this quality rating, an article must be nominated at WP:Good article nominations, or GAN, where it is reviewed by an uninvolved editor. Given the backlog on the page, nominations can sometimes sit for a while until a reviewer comes along. The reviewer compares the article to the Good article criteria and will either pass or fail the nomination. Should an article degrade over time or the passed nomination is contentious, editors can place the article up for reassessment at WP:Good article reassessment, or GAR. Depending on the reassessment discussion, the article will either retain or lose its GA status. To further add more to digest, there are also Good topics, which are collections of Good articles that are within the same scope.
You'll see these terms pretty regularly at the VG project because many editors there try to bring articles up to Good quality, partly as a badge of honor, but also because review by an outside party ensures that quality is actually there. Hope that explains everything. If you have anymore questions, please let me know. (Guyinblack25talk19:24, 12 July 2010 (UTC))[reply]
Re: Italics
Couldn't find it in the MOS, but things like Civilization's is just proper English- the title of the game is always italicized, but the "'s" isn't. If it looks strange to you, just change up the sentence structure- "Alpha Centauri uses a modified Civilization II's game engine." becomes "Alpha Centauri uses a modified version of the game engine from Civilization II. Also, the reason I said it was the sequel to the series, not the first game, was because it was sort of the sequel to both Civ1 and Civ2. That said, you're the one editing the article, so if you think it's just the "sequel" to Civ2 as it uses that engine and came out after it, go right ahead, it's your call. Good job on the article so far, I'm enjoying the improvements to it as I love that game. --PresN15:19, 31 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Clarification
You state here that in the archive link I gave, I came across as looking worse than the person I reported to WQA because I raised the issue of Cailil's prior history with me. I would like to confirm that you read my statements on that matter, and disagree with me that Cailil's prior and new actions warranted my mentioning the prior history. Thank you. Blackworm (talk) 01:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've been going to the gym a lot and being on the computer a lot less. Congratulations to both you and GiB for the GA status. I trust you have been keeping an eye to make sure it doesn't lose the GA status through careless edits. Is there anything in the article or its talk page you would like me to look at? Vyeh (talk) 01:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The article has been surprisingly quiet in the 50 or so edits that have been made since the GAR was passed. Please do look through that big diff though; you were always more knowledgeable in the more technical details of the game then I was and I'm sure I've missed something...I have so many other projects that I don't pay as much attention to SMAC as I should. Not much on the talk page either...one discussion back in April that led to the removal of the SMAX image, but other then that, nothing. NoleloverTalk·Contribs02:45, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I looked at both of your links and they're both good. The removal of the SMAX image is the final step in the merger of the SMAC and SMAX articles. That was one of the first steps taken toward GA status. I'm really glad that we took the journey together. Thank you very much. Vyeh (talk) 07:24, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The Original Barnstar
No, thank you. It may be a little odd to be saying this when you aren't really active anymore, but I don't think I ever told you how much fun I had working with you on SMAC, or that that collaboration is the reason I continue to edit Wikipedia. This barnstar is the least I can give you in return. NoleloverTalk·Contribs15:09, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the barn star! I had a lot of fun working with you. We had a great collaboration. I was confident that you would finish the article when my priorities changed and I am glad that it was a positive experience for you. Vyeh (talk) 21:06, 30 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]
It looks like I might be too late to say "hello", so I'll give you my best wishes for your current ventures. I just thought I'd let you know that I'll soon be able to devote time on the SMAC article. I had volunteered to work on various Titanic-related stuff in preparation of the centenary and the resultant flood of readers. In the wake of my frenzied activity, I left some loose ends that I still need to tie-up, but will devote attention to SMAC after that. I promise to be careful not to disturb SMAC's GA status, and give the page the TLC that it deserves. Good luck, best wishes, etc. ~Eric F 184.76.225.106 (talk) 19:15, 17 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]
RE: Could you refer me to some editors familiar with German and Romanian sources?
Hi Vyeh, thanks for your message! I can definitely introduce you to Romanian and German speakers, but they may be unfamiliar with Wikipedia. Wikitongues is a larger initiative that just recently started integrating with the broader Wiki movement, so many of our members are still learning :) We can talk more about this tonight. I'll be at Wiki Wednesday, so keep an out for me! If we do miss each, my email is danielwikitongues.org, so you can reach me directly there. Thank you!
I checked, and fixed one of, the quotes in the "Be My Boyfriend" section.
Kultusminister usually means minister for education and culture, but not worship.
Flitzpiepe, plural Flitzpiepen, is a word from beyond my native region, but I would think of it as a somewhat endearing (but here also patronizing) term for "fool", someone not to be taken seriously or who, in this case, did something (purportedly) unexpected. I don't think it's all that relevant here—it maybe could be if you did a separate article on the whole Indiggo–Bohlen collaboration.
Source reliability: The standards for articles about living persons are somewhat different, you might want to check. In general:
Bild is generally considered a tabloid newspaper/news site.
Die Welt should qualify as a reputable source.
openpr.de seems to be a website where anyone can post pretty much anything, not sure as to the reliability standard for that.
Also you might want to look into MOS:INOROUT as to the sequence of closing quotation marks and punctuation, in particular regarding song titles in quotes.
@BlaueBlüte: That does help! I found another Bild source: Biss, Malte (February 22, 2006), "Bohlens Sexy-Zwillinge zeigen ihr Zuhause" [Bohlen's sexy twins show their home], Bild (in German), Berlin, Germany: Axel Springer SE, retrieved September 4, 2018. I used the quotes in that source in this section: Indiggo#Indiggo's Childhood. I'll eventually integrate it with the following section, but for now, that section is solely supported by one source.
Could you check those quotes against the single source?
The quotes seem to be as okay as they probably can be, seeing that they were presumable translated from Romanian to German in the first place. Personally I would doubt that all of them are relevant, though. The view on Bild among German Wikipedia editors appears to be boiling down to this:
Can be used if no other sources available.
However, frowned upon by some on principle.
If no other sources are available, that’s considered suggestive of a lack of relevance of the topic.
It seems that the English Wikipedia is more strict here. While there is no categorical rule against tabloid sources in the German WP, WP:BLPSOURCES is pretty clear about that regarding English Wikipedia biographies of living persons.
@BlaueBlüte: Thank you for your prompt response! Indiggo speaks German. I'm currently putting in any material from sources that could be relevant. I'll make a judgment on relevancy/noteworthiness when I start cutting. At the meeting last week, David Goodman compared Bild to Life (magazine) and Die Welt to Time (magazine). Daniel Buddell has has promised to find a non-Wikipedian German for an opinion about Bild. Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources#Overview starts with the image and text below and to the right:
WP:BLPSOURCES states "Material should not be added to an article when the only sourcing is tabloid journalism." From Bild, 'Der Spiegel wrote in 2006 that Bild "flies just under the nonsense threshold of American and British tabloids ... For the German desperate, it is a daily dose of high-resolution soft porn".[1]'
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Indiggo—
Hello:
The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Indiggo has been completed.
I did not edit the section "Wicked Clone The Cinema Musical". As it stands, this should appear under the "Stage" heading, not on its own, with only a basic description-where, when etc... This is an article on Indiggo not the musical. I leave that to you to decide. The way it is written now it is essentially a stand-alone article. A number of the sources used in the article are in my estimation unreliable, or have provided information which reads very much like parts of a press release that have been reproduced. These need to be worked on.
I would recommend that you not submit this article for consideration as a Feature Article until these issues have been addressed.
Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.
Bernstorff, James (May 7, 2017), Indiggo (in Danish), Artico Dore, retrieved September 2, 2018, which I intended to use to support that they started studying guitar at the age of six. Is this for the specific use of the source or the source in general? (I saw your edit comment.)
Talent in Motion Magazine (2010), On the Cover: Indiggo Twins(pdf), vol. Winter, retrieved August 12, 2018, for appearances in shows, ads and music videos. Specific use or in general?
I did tag this one, but should have looked further. It looks fine for citing. Timmag appears to be a legitimate NYC magazine http://timmag.com/info/
Music News Desk (August 10, 2011), Imagem Music Signs The Indiggo Twins, Broadway World, retrieved August 12, 2018, for signing a deal with Imagem. Specific use or in general?
This still reads like a press release to me. I may be wrong, but if there are better sources I'd use those.
A second look, and Google translate, have me thinking this website is fine to use for specific citations.
Are these the sources that in your estimation are unreliable or read like reproduced press releases? I have other sources for some of these, which I eliminated after my FA mentor cited WP:Citation overkill. Anything you can say about the issues you have with these fourthree sources would be helpful as I choose replacement sources.
I greatly appreciate the effort you've already put into the article. I know you are very busy and I greatly appreciate your time. I'm currently having the article peer reviewed, in return for reciprocation. If there is an article you would like me to copy-edit, let me know. Vyeh (talk) 17:36, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
The Guild of Copy Editors can always use a hand. You're more than welcome to edit any article on our Requests list.
@Twofingered Typist: I'll take a look at your Requests list tonight. Thank you for looking again at the sources. I've given thought to the section "Wicked Clone The Cinema Musical." I think it makes more sense to use the information and sources in the "Music/Wicked Clone" subsection, perhaps retitling the subsection "Wicked Clone The Cinema Musical" in a fashion similar to the integration of the 2006 Eurovision Song Contest into the "Be My Boyfriend" and the 2007 Eurovision Song Contest into the "Love Struck" subsections. Vyeh (talk) 21:27, 18 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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Yes, I read your post at the ed noticeboard and it reinforced the idea that some kind of general warning for reviewers would be a good thing. I linked to your comment in the edit summary. I haven't checked if it's been reverted today. (I skeptically expect someone to reverse/decline any idea I have or action I take once I step outside my own little space on WP. Bonuses are when someone actually uses the thanks button or such, so thank you!)
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Hi, I'm archiving inactive PR requests to clean the page up a bit and I was wondering if you were still working on the Lana Turner PR? It's fairly thorough and I don't want to archive it if you're still using it. I'm also going to message the nominator. ♠PMC♠ (talk)06:46, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
@Premeditated Chaos: I can't speak for the nominator (although I hope to entice him/her to make additional comments on the Indiggo peer review), but I just added another section. I'm being thorough because Lana Turner stalled in FAN. Note that Fisa2702 has promised to "attempt" to add to the Indiggo peer review. I would appreciate it if you would consider the Indiggo peer review still active. Thank you. Vyeh (talk) 16:11, 18 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
No prob, I've been mostly closing stuff that's either well outside the inactivity recommendation or pretty sparse. The Lana one looked borderline enough that I thought I'd rather check first. I'll pass over Indiggo as well if I get there. ♠PMC♠ (talk)00:35, 19 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]
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You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for NYC Hacking Night at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. This event is a successor to our inaugural December 2023 Hacking Night. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well!
WikiWednesday is back this month! You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our WikiWednesday Salon at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan, with an online-based participation option also available. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person, you should be vaccinated and be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.
The event will feature lightning talks and a Wiki-fashion show, for which you are encouraged to dress in your finest Wikimedia clothing and accessories (bags, buttons, even books), or clothing connected to the topics you edit on wiki projects.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person you should be vaccinated and also be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct. In addition, to participate in person, you should be vaccinated and be sure to respect others' personal space, and we may limit overall attendance size if appropriate.
Additionally, you are invited to City Tech Library LGBTQIA edit-a-thon at the New York City College of Technology Library in Downtown Brooklyn! Join us in person on April 11th to learn about these great new materials at City Tech Library; to learn about editing Wikipedia; and to help increase representation of LGBTQIA individuals and issues online. All are welcome, new and experienced!
Interested in attending, but not a CUNY student or faculty? Please get in touch; we'll help you navigate City Tech building security. Email Jen: jennifer.hoyer18 (at) citytech.cuny.edu.
This special WikiWednesday will feature a welcome session and beginning of a listening tour by the newly appointed executive director of Wikimedia NYC, the first staff member leading our local non-profit.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct.
Meeting info:
You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our Hacking Sunday at Prime Produce in Hell's Kitchen, Manhattan. It is intended primarily for technical contributors, though newcomers are welcome as well! The event runs for the whole day, though you are welcome to come by for as little or as long as you'd like.
A documentary filmmaker will be in attendance, working on Rabbit Hole, which aims to document Wikipedia's community to showcase how our network tackles important questions about how history is recorded. They will be in attendance to film snippets of this gathering for the documentary. It is completely optional to be a part of the film and there will be protocols in place if you wish to not be filmed. If there are any questions about the filming please reach out to the filmmaker, Meg Vatterott (meg.vatterott@gmail.com).
This is a sequel event to the 2023 Governors Island Wiknic and will feature a workshop led by AfroCrowd at the ArtCrawl Harlem house. We'll also encourage collaboration for wiki-coverage of ArtCrawl Harlem's current exhibition at Governors Island.
All are welcome, new and experienced!
Bring a picnic blanket and some potluck, as well as some sunscreen! We'll also provide sandwiches for everyone, and maybe some NYC pizza too, but we encourage you to bring your own favorite dishes to share, especially for those food cultural topics you would like to improve on Wikipedia.
This special online-only WikiWednesday will be dedicated to the Wikimedia Movement Charter referendum, and also to exploring future options of other online-centric events for our Wikimedia NYC chapter.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct.
Meeting info:
You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the inaugural event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series at Civic Hall! All are welcome, and newcomers and aspiring editors are especially encouraged to attend.
Bring a picnic blanket and some potluck, as well as some sunscreen! We'll also provide a little something for everyone, but we encourage you to bring your own favorite dishes to share, especially for those food cultural topics you would like to improve on Wikipedia.
The Members' Meeting is similar to other WikiWednesday meetups, except that its primary function is to elect a new Board of Directors. We will elect three board seats, half of the elected seats on the board. After being elected, those elected can potentially appoint more seats.
We will also focus on the Wikimedia NYC Strategic Plan, our Financial Report, and Annual and Monthly event teams for the coming year.
Election info:
To run for election or to vote, you must be a dues-paying member of Wikimedia New York City, having renewed in the past 12 months.
Voting will be both online, via emailed ballots from the ElectionBuddy service, and in-person.
The poll will be open for the 48 hours between 8pm EDT on September 23 and 8pm EDT on September 25.
For additional information, please consult the Election FAQ.
You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for the "Editing to the Beat" event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series at Lehman College. This is the second event of the series, following the inaugural event at Civic Hall in July. Led by a 9-person live band demonstrating Caribbean and Latin musical genres, we'll engage with efforts such as WikiProject Latin Music, and will encourage editing on both English and Spanish Wikipedia. All are welcome, and newcomers and aspiring editors are especially encouraged to attend. Registration via Eventbrite is required for building entry, and is also encouraged on the event page on Meta.
The Wikicurious series is supported by Craig Newmark Philanthropies. Wikimedia NYC is an official affiliate and supported by the Wikimedia Foundation. Also supporting this event are Equis, The Celia Cruz Foundation, and the International Museum of Salsa. In association with WikiCari and AfroCrowd.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct.
Meeting info:
Date: Saturday, September 21, 2024
Time: 1:00–7:00 p.m.
Location:Lehman College (CUNY) 250 Bedford Park Blvd W, Bronx, NY
Equipment: Please bring your own computer. We are not yet able to provide loaner laptops.
You are invited to Wikidata Day in New York City at Pratt Institute School of Information in Manhattan, in celebration of Wikidata's 12th birthday. This event, held by our chapter in collaboration with Pratt and Girls Who Code, will be our third annual celebration of Wikidata Day. It will feature spotlight sessions, lightning talks, and the customary Wiki-cake, while those unable to attend in person will be able to watch a livestream.
All attendees are subject to Wikimedia NYC's Code of Conduct.
You are invited to Foundation and Friends' Free Culture Friday at Prime Produce on Friday, November 22. This event will feature a reception with Wikimedia Foundation staff in the afternoon, followed by a more informal salon and game night, utilizing Prime Produce's vast collection of board games. No experience of anything at all is required. All are welcome!
You are also invited to Wikicurious: Capturing the Moment, the third event of the beginner-focused Wikicurious series, at Jefferson Market Library on Tuesday, November 26, in collaboration with WikiPortraits and AfroCROWD. All are welcome to attend, especially those interested in photography or contributing to Wikimedia Commons. We will explore the art of capturing the moment through photography and learn the basics of Wikimedia Commons, and (weather-permitting) we are also planning a photo walk, so bring your camera (or use your smartphone)!
The special focus this year will be the launch of our "400 Neighborhoods" campaign for the city's 400th anniversary and WikiProject New York City/400 Task Force.
We'll also have a lightning talks session and you're invited to sign up for one, though space is somewhat limited.