Hey, The Transhumanist. I always thought that per MOS:LAYOUT that Portals went in the See also section, if the article contains a See also section. I recently put some Portals in an article, in See also, and somebody moved them to the very bottom of the References section. Now I see there is not much Portal placement guidance in MOS:LAYOUT. I wonder why? Are you still interested in Portals? Cheers! {{u|WikiWikiWayne}} {Talk}19:11, 24 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
In answer to your question, I'm not too into portals these days. I haven't been very involved in Wikipedia development over the past few years, though I use it each day. I occasionally switch to editor mode to fix a typo, or grammar, here or there, and less frequently do some real editing. I also respond to requests or notices to rescue pages in danger of deletion, and am involved with a rescue effort now. Currently, I'm also involved with a discussion of the potential impact of large language models, and the AI chatbots powered by them, like Chat-GPT, on Wikipedia, and how Wikipedia should respond via policy and action. 07:36, 25 January 2023 (UTC)
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@François Robere: Nice! By the way, I've been monitoring related news, and I'm continuously blown away. See why in my latest addition to the discussion:
Firstly, I had problems even getting a message to you because in the latest "Vector" skin there is no "edit" button on your talk page. I had to revert the recent change just to post this message. Why not prioritise usability over prettiness and get rid of whatever silly formatting you have?
I do use preview, and save when I believe it is done. I have the compulsion to reread the post again after it is completed and saved. And if I find something wrong with it, I fix it. Then the cycle repeats itself. Sorry. I guess I can mark the revisit edits as minor. As for the formatting of this page, I was unaware of the edit button problem, as I use the old vector skin. It sounds like the new skin has ruined my formatting. I'll look into it. Thank you for the heads up. — The Transhumanist08:53, 29 January 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi, I like outlines. Did you request those draft outlines to be restored so you could work on them to move them to mainspace? —Alalch E.19:59, 8 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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I'm quite new to editing, but you should be able just to release this image (while still giving credit to the references) because you made it as seen with the blue barnstar you used as a source. Daryl76679 (talk) 22:46, 15 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jerium: That's like asking, "Were the barnstars you've created necessary?" Which leads to "Is art necessary?" Yes. Very much so. And in art, details matter. It's your new design (adjusted slightly by color), and is symbolically much more representative of outlines, due to its tree structure icon. Well done. And you've anchored that symbol nicely to the WikiProject by displaying it prominently on its main page. That was brilliant. Now, by default, in a sense, all instances of its smaller version (in the awards) point back to it. Bravo! — The Transhumanist23:38, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The Transhumanist Okay, when you removed the alt that I had made at your request, I was not upset. In fact, based on the discussion on my talk page, I was not surprised as you were clearly thrilled with a barnstar being introduced; But now that we've ended up to this point, your biggest mistake occurred, confusing my patients for kindness. I and members of WP:WPWPA do not oust pre-existing barnstars, we only remaster barnstars that do not use File:Original Barnstar Hires.png per WP:B2G and add them into the barnstar template as the secondary alternative option while the original still remains in the template as the primary option. That is a gesture of honorable-courtesy, to acknowledge their efforts, original makers, in creating the original barnstars. The thing that no one ever does though, even if you are not a member of WP:WPWPA, is replace the barnstar file-images in barnstar templates that were already-rewarded to editors for whatever reason. That is just a low-ball move, near equivalent to blanking a page. Everything you've done in the template, I am undoing, but I will fullfill your request; and as one who is as good as Antonu (Yes, I am making that comparison), you don't know what a high-quality barnstar is, and you especially don't know how to properly award other editors. Jerium (talk) 00:36, 18 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Jerium: First, let me say thank you for updating the alt image on the barnstar page. That looks even better than the one I hobbled together from your previous design. Very nice.
As for the awarding process itself, my opinion is that it's between the giver and the recipient. It's not like it's a physical award sitting on their mantle. This, being a wiki, provides more options. If a rewarder sees a way to improve an award they've given, especially one they customized themselves, the edit button is just a click away. Likewise, if a recipient prefers the earlier version, they are welcome to revert. And if they don't, then perhaps that's an indication that they at least didn't mind the modification. Note, that I changed the look of the award, not the message content. Though, I wouldn't hesitate to fix a typo, or awkward wording, in the text of an award I've given.
Regarding the other barnstar, let me ask some philosophical questions: What do lightbulbs have to do with outlines? Are you saying that we're stuck with a lightbulb representing outlines as a main award on the barnstar page forever? How did that happen? What's the procedure for getting it changed to something more relevant? No hard feelings here. Just scratching my head, wondering what can be done about it. No lightbulbs are going off, though. Except, maybe this one: Could you be talked into changing it to something that captures the essence of outlines? That way, you would still be the credited artiste, and I know you could come up with something mind blowing. You remind me of Penubag in that regard. (He created the medal for the World Developer Award).
Last, but not least, is that we can always talk things over, and I'm glad you feel free to express your feelings. I look forward to our continued sharing of thoughts and ideas. — The Transhumanist00:58, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
The lightbulb stays as it was the original upload. The new version also stays, so no one is taking a loss. It would be very difficult to get consensus to remove the newly updated barnstar, with the amount of effort I put in on quality, but I don't want to continue this discussion any further. Also, you're rude and insulting. We're done. Jerium (talk) 01:09, 19 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Well, you are on my talk page, and you did add the "rude" comment after you wrote that you didn't want to continue, thus continuing. So, I'm going to take those as cues to respond...
Then the light bulb stays. You met me half-way, which is willingness to compromise, and for that, I am grateful. And so, I guess I can do the same.
It seems a bit quirky, but, we can adapt to the light bulb barnstar. I imagine the award's prose could go something like this:
"I hereby award you this light bulb of excellence for creating such a wonderful outline and illuminating the world with its knowledge." Or maybe "Here is a light bulb to brighten your day, for creating such an illuminating outline." And this one: "You have illuminated minds like Edison illuminated the world. For this, you are awarded the outline light bulb!"
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Hi Transhumanist, I would like to take you up on your offer and ask you if you could find a few independent reliable sources sufficient to establish notability of the organisation "Diving Equipment and Marketing Association", When I tried perplexity it threw back Wikipedia, even after I told it not to.
Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood(talk): 09:33, 4 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbsouthwood: I ran into the same problem awhile back. Since it is a chatbot, which you can ask to do just about anything literary (so far, they haven't incorporated a robotic training data set into it, so it can't comply with requests to do physical things, yet), I asked it how to get it to return results without Wikipedia in them, and it instructed me to use "-site:en.wikipedia.org" in my prompts. I tried that, and it worked. I don't know if that is an ability that it adopted, or something they programmed into it.
Keep in mind that the chatbot's data lake is the Web, and there is a growing body of know how on how to use ChatGPT (which is essentially what drives this thing). So, as time goes on, perplexity.ai becomes more and more of an expert on how to use itself. As users, we can ask it to tap into that. It's counterintuitive, but, sometimes it works wonders.
I looked around for sources to establish notability for DEMA, and neither I nor perplexity could turn up anything of note. There is mention of DEMA commissioning a research study in Introductory Guide to Scuba Diver Species from University of Massachusetts Amherst, but I doubt that's enough to establish notability. (There's another source in there on DEMA—Buttner, C. (2007). DEMA and the public shouldn't mix. Published in Open Water Articles— but there's no copy of it online that I could find. It appears that DEMA's online footprint is primarily its own website. — The Transhumanist01:25, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks TTH, I was aware of the Amherst paper, and agree – not enough. It is quite weird considering DEMA has had quite a large influence on recreational diving over several decades, and not always a good one. So it goes. The tip about "-site" is useful, and makes sense to a degree (that it works, not that it is explicitly needed), Anyway, thanks for trying, Wikipedia will just have to go without an article for now. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood(talk): 04:24, 7 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]
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User:Alexander Davronov/HistoryHelper has now become stable with some bugfixes and features such as automatically highlighting potentially uncivil edit summaries and automatically pinging all the users selected.
To a lesser extent, the same goes for User:PrimeHunter/Search sort.js. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin is a rewrite of Ais's Watchlist Notifier with modern APIs and several new features such as not displaying watchlist items marked as seen (hence the name), not bolding diffs of unseen watchlist elements which doesn’t work properly anyways, displaying the rendered edit summary, proper display of log and creation actions and more links.
Alexis Jazz: Factotum is a spiritual successor to reply-link with a host of extra features like section adding, link rewriting, regular expressions and more.
User:Aveaoz/AutoMobileRedirect: This script will automatically redirect MobileFrontend (en.m.wikipedia) to normal Wikipedia. Unlike existing scripts, this one will actually check if your browser is mobile or not through its secret agent string, so you can stay logged in on mobile! Hooray screen estate!
Deputy is a first-of-its-kind copyright cleanup toolkit. It overrides the interface for Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations for easy case processing. It also includes the functionality of the following (also new) scripts:
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User:MPGuy2824/MoveToDraft, a spiritual successor (i.e. fork) to Evad37's script, with a few bugs solved, and a host of extra features like check-boxes for choosing draftification reasons, multi-contributor notification, and appropriate warnings based on last edit time.
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GANReviewTool quickly and easily closes good article nominations.
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User:Opencooper/svgReplace and Tol's fork replaces all rasterized SVGs with their original SVG codes for your loading pleasures. Tell us which one is better!
ArticleInfo displays page information at the top of the page, directly below the title.
/HeaderIcons takes away the Vector 2022 user dropdown and replaces it with all of the icons within, top level, right next to the Watchlist. One less click away! There's also an alternate version that uses text links instead of icons.
Hey, I've been trying to pare down unhelpful short descriptions onsite, and I've definitely unset a lot of outlines. Apologies for this, I will stop doing so, and start putting the ones back that I removed. Also, I really appreciate your work at the WikiProject, and I've actually started Draft:Outline of Chinese characters as a result. Cheers! Remsense诉05:55, 24 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Remsense: "Outline of" in the titles is just a format designation. It is not part of the subject of the article, which is what should be covered in the short description. The short description should briefly define the outline's topic. For example, describe "chess" rather than "Outline of chess". Therefore copying the short description of the corresponding root article works well. — The Transhumanist06:44, 13 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ahecht has created a fork of SiBr4/TemplateSearch, which adds the "TP:" shortcut for "Template:" in the search box, and updated it to be compatible with Vector 2022.
AquilaFasciata/goToTopFast is a much faster fork of the classic goToTop script that also adds compatibility for Minerva and Vector 2022.
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To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
Dragoniez/SuppressEnterInForm stops you from accidentally submitting anything due to pressing enter while in the smaller box, and works on almost anything... except the InputBox element itself, used in subscription lists and the Signpost Crossword! Oh, the humanity!
Doǵu/Adiutor(pictured) provides a nice, integrated interface to do some twinkley tasks such as copyvio detection, CSD tagging, and viewing the most recent diff.
Eejit43 has quite the aesthetically pleasing scripts, all made in TypeScript.
/afcrc-helper is a replacement for the unmaintained Enterprisey/AFCRHS and processes Redirects for Creation and Categories for Creation requests.
/ajax-undo stops the "undo" button from taking you to another page while providing a text box to provide a reason for the revert.
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/rmtr-helper helps process technical requested moves without being able to actually move them.
Guycn2/UserInfoPopup(pictured) adds a flyout after the watchlist star on userspace pages that displays the common information you might use about a user.
Jeeputer/editCounter, under userspace, adds a portlet link to count your edits by namespace, put them in a table, and put that table in a hardcoded subpage, all in the background.
Hilst/Scripts/sectionLinks converts all section links to use the § sign, which are known to be preferred over the ugly # by 99% of the devils I've met.
PrimeHunter/Category source.js adds portlet links to tell you where a category for an article comes from and supports those from template transclusions.
Sophivorus's MiniEdit adds some nice, li'l buttons next to paragraphs to edit their wikitext with a minimal interface.
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Dragoniez/ToollinkTweaks adds more and customizable links next to users in page history, logs, watchlist, recent changes, etc.
Firefly/more-block-info optimizes the display of rangeblocks in contribution pages. Doesn't work outside the English locale of any wiki, unfortunately.
NguoiDungKhongDinhDanh/AjaxLoader makes paging links (e.g. older 50, 500, newest) load without refreshing and makes you realize how slow your internet actually is.
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Ahecht/RedirectID adds the redirect target to all redirects. For all the WP:NAVPOPS haters. (Do these exist?)
Dragoniez/MarkBLockedGlobal: Remember the "strike blocked usernames" gadget? Now you can use a red, dotted line to highlight rangeblocks and global locks!
Jonesey/common(pictured) has some styles to overhaul your Vector 2022 experience. It reduces padding everywhere, and makes the top bar animation faster.
Aaron Liu/V22 is a fork that narrows the sidebars instead of upheaving them, reverts the January 2024 dropdown changes, and restores the old page-link color for links that don't go outside the current wiki.
Nardog: SmartDiff is a spiritual successor to Enterprisey/fancy-diffs. It makes the page title part of links in diffs clickable, along with template and parser function calls. Unnamed parameters can be configured per template to also be linked. All links are styled based on the normal CSS classes of rendered links.
For the paranoid: Rublov/anonymize replaces your username at the top of the screen with the generic "User page" text. Remember, it is your duty to persuade everyone that editing is an honor.
/AjaxBlock provides a dialog box for easy input of reasons while blocking users.
/Selective Rollback(pictured) provides a dialog box to customize rollback edit summaries and does them without reloading the page. Seriously, why doesn't MediaWiki already do this?
/flickrsearch adds a portlet link to search for uploadable flickr images about the subject.
/randomincategory adds a portlet link when on Category pages to go to a random page in the current category.
Vghfr/EasyTemplates adds a portlet link to automatically insert some of the most common inline {{fix}} templates.
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yours is phenomenal, I see why it belongs in the hall of fame! My only question is why the 'introduction' image is gra(e?)yed out when the mouse is hovered over.
I appreciate you reviving the User page design center! I used this when I was new. Also, everyone has a phases where they religiously obsess over their user page (especially userboxes), and this tool is a good way to show them how to have fun with it. Panini!•🥪23:59, 2 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Parsing of trancluded pages
Hi TTH, If a content page is transcluded without any parameters, is the wikicode of the transcluded page parsed during the transclusion, or is the already generated cached html just copied over? I suspect the former, but don't really know why it should necessarily be that way. I have a vague feeling there would be things like the ToC that would not work properly and would require the parser to work through the transcuded page's code.
Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood(talk): 13:40, 16 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbsouthwood: As I understand it, Wikiedia's servers parse wiki text as follows: everything that needs to be expanded is done first, then lua modules are performed, then the resulting wiki text is translated into HTML. That's why the TOC works properly even when there are transcluded pages. There may be some HTML processing after that, but I'm not sure what (inserting files?). I don't know where this stuff is explained, but someone at WP:VPT surely does. MediaWiki's parser is explained at mw:Manual:Parser, and may provide some insight, but Wikipedia's configuration is much more complex, including hundreds of extensions. I hope this helps. Sincerely, — The Transhumanist11:16, 18 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hey there, welcome to the 25th issue of the Wikipedia Scripts++ Newsletter, covering all our favorite new and updated user scripts since 1 March 2024. We've got a ton of wonderful editors taking back their pitchforks today. Don't worry, for they come in peace, to forcibly fix and extend existing scripts you use with sheer passion. There's so many, them forks have got what's basically their own column now! gift us with some rows before it's too late Aaron Liu (talk) 04:01, 1 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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To a lesser extent, the same goes for PrimeHunter/Search sort. I wish someone would integrate the sorts into the sort menu instead of adding 11 portlet links.
An easily configurable script to add a link to the #p-vector-user-menu-overflow portlet with a name, target, and icon. This one should be a relatively easier one. I would do it myself, but I'm too busy rotting away on Celeste (video game).
After the ＲＩＩＪ update, Aaron Liu: Watchlyst Greybar Unsin has a dismiss button that allows you to mark an item as read in one click and cycle to the next Watchlist item.
Lordseriouspig/StatusChangerImproved is just like Enterprisey's script, except you select your status from a dropdown instead of cycling through them with a button. The WMF operates out of car-centric infrastructure anyway. Shame!
Newly maintained scripts
Aaron Liu has created Duplinks from Evad37/duplinks-alt; his fork adds a config variable to automatically highlight duplicate links on the loading of any page where the portlet link would've appeared.
Tired of staring at a bunch of filtering text and waiting for darn filter logs to load? Msz2001/AbuseFilter analyzer can parse abuse filters into a visual syntax tree and evaluate locally on-demand!
Polygnotus/DuplicateReferences finds references with the same link and displays the number of them along with a button to add the {{duplicated citations}} tag under the references section. Being lazy has never been easier!
fastest gun on the net Ponor/really-quick-block really quick add to contribution lists three buttons awesome
Hi @The Transhumanist: How goes it? I came across your article Outline of dyslexia as part of the WP:NPP article review process. Is this an article? Its not references and seems to be arbitary list of information without reference present. You don't know if its valid or not. Are you planning to reference it. I see there is a whole other outline articles. Are they all in the same condition? Your not writing these for use off-wikipedia are you? scope_creepTalk19:05, 5 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Keep up the great work! Love the pictures you included in the article. Please continue to add more references when you find them. Cheers.
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Hi TTH, Just found a fine example of why annotations should be cited unless they are by annotated links. Take a look at Index of branches of science, lots of annotated redlinks with no refs, blue links with claims that don't hold up when checked, and redirects, which I have not even looked at yet. No refs in the lead, poorly defined scope. Talk page full of messages indicating confusion and disagreement with the content, mostly unanswered. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood(talk): 05:43, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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