User talk:Spylab

Editing Lin "Spit" Newborn page

I have noticed that you have edited a historical page of someone who is no longer alive, who was killed by racist skinheads in the middle of the Nevada desert, by removing references to what groups he was involved in before his death by calling them "Trival" and "Off-Topic". There was a line in the previous page where Lin "Spit" Newborn's affiliation with N.T.S. (Nazi Terminator Skins) was removed as trivial and off-topic. He spent his life fighting racism and resisting prejudice everywhere. Now, that information is lost to history because there is no reference? There does not exist a reference to Nazi Terminator Skins as it is an underground anti-racist crew in the North Part of Las Vegas, Nevada. I believe that your edit was trivial, and that the information that was provided was far more important than anything that you had done or pointed out. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Earl E. Smith (talk • contribs) 17:17, 4 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]





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Deletionist behaviour

Reverting a contribution because "not referenced" while it is? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Rude_boy#Single_by_Desmond_Dekker If you have doubts please debate them on the Talk page of the article before obstructing the work of others. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaromil (talk • contribs) 11:10, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The sentence did not have a reference, so it can be deleted at any time, by anyone, as per Wikipedia policies.Spylab (talk) 13:41, 30 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Hardcore punk

Hi, I just wanted to let you know that the longstanding content about hardcore clothing (crew cuts, sneakers, etc) has been deleted from the hardcore punk article. The same editor also deleted a section on hardcore zines(MRR, Cometbus, etc). I have raised these two issues on the talk page. Also, musical characteristics has been relocated to later in the article. Just thought I'd let you know. OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 00:09, 6 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Inclusive Democracy

Please use the talk page at Inclusive Democracy before you make any sweeping edits, or alternatively do edits one at a time, so that each edit can be commented upon. What you did is not normal copy-editing, but re-writing the entire entry without providing valid reasons. User:John sargis 16:26, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]

False. I copy edited the article as normal and improved the organization. I did not rewrite the article or change the substance at all.Spylab (talk) 22:54, 31 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Since there have been sweeping changes in Inclusive Democracy entry, you would rather explain the need for them, or do them one at a time. Even if it was a complete restructuring of the entry, the scope and extension of the edits that you did show that you may should have started a dialogue in the Talk Page of the entry at the first place, and not do it all at once sweepingly. Also please do not use the word "Vandalism" for somebody's reaction to your edits arbitratily. I would advise you to use the Editing policy and Be helpful, Explain & Major changes guideline for making big changes in an entry, even if they are for "restructuring" purposes. Thanks. 77.49.224.227 (talk) 04:23, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I just noticed there is evidence you altered and deleted some of the sentences - this was stressed by User:John sargis in Inclusive Democracy's talk page - of the entry, so, it was not just a matter of restructuring, deletion, addition of spaces etc. as you claimed. This is another reason you should have used a step-by-step approach with comments for each one, if you really wanted to improve the entry and not distort it in effect. 77.49.224.227 (talk) 04:54, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Reinvoked my arbitratily deleted by User:Spylab comments, for which initially I had not signed in properly with my user name earlier. Panlis (talk) 19:14, 1 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Until now, the last time you posted anything on Wikipedia from the Panlis account was May 28, 2013. Interesting.Spylab (talk) 14:46, 2 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
There is nothing wrong with this. On the other hand I could be much more sarcastic about your general attributes in Wikipedia like your own "interest" and motive of improving Wikipedia as you declare them in your user page: "I Spy" ! But I try to focus on someone's deeds and activity and not be sarcastic. Panlis (talk) 12:11, 3 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]
Suddenly coming out of an seven-month hibernation just to post criticisms on another editor's talk page is a deed and activity. I didn't say there was something "wrong" with it, just that it was interesting.Spylab (talk) 00:18, 4 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]

POV Section on Capitalism

Hi, I was just passing by and observed your edit on Capitalism. Wondering why you believed that using Australia as an example is a POV when it is a factual comment, and could it have been the authors intent for other users to add examples of other countries? (58.161.220.210 (talk) 08:01, 10 February 2014 (UTC))[reply]

The section was full of opinions and spin, not neutral facts, thus it was POV. It was also undue weight to focus on one country.Spylab (talk) 04:09, 12 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Genocide definitions, Definitions of pogrom and Definitions of fascism for deletion

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Please stop deleting and reverting the restoration of comments on Right Wing Politics

Spybot. Several times now you have deleted and reverted comments from several editors on the TALK page for Right Wing Politics. This is beginning to appear like edit warring and trying to control the content of discussion that is taking place there. Instead of deleting the points people are making, please make your own points if you feel you have something to contribute to the discussion. It is ironic that the comments you are deleting themselves reference the dearth of opinion and balance in this article. Please assume good faith in other editors. This is a discussion page, not the article itself. I am assuming you do not intend this as vandalism hence my friendly note here hoping you will cease deleting comments you disagree with and allow the discussion to continue. 216.178.108.235 (talk) 17:36, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Article talk pages are for discussing improvements to articles. They are not forums to discuss the topic in general. They are not pulpits to rant from, and they are not spaces to post anonymous personal attacks against other editors. Comments that violate Wikipedia policies can be deleted at any time. The comments I deleted were not made in good faith. You are correct that my deletions were not vandalism.Spylab (talk) 23:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I will allow your deletions to stand, not because I don't believe you are attempting to control and censor the discussion there, but because your insistence on deleting this material proves my point that the article suffers from a lack of viewpoints and a one sided control of the presentation of the topic which is grossly POV. Your actions prove the point more than the deleted statements did. No doubt you will sanitize this as well... 216.178.108.235 (talk) 19:24, 11 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Right wing politics articles

I have noticed an increase in new editors changing 'far right' to 'far left' in various articles relating to Nazim and am beginning to think it isn't coincidence. I'll take the 2 new accounts at [{Far-right politics]] to SPI. Please ping me if you reply. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 15:45, 23 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hardcore punk

Hi Spylab, I just wanted to let you know that the Hardcore punk article is currently going through an IP user edit war, with repeated, unsubstantiated claims that there is a consensus that metal is one of the stylistic origins of HC. OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 18:30, 25 June 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Hategroup

IP is perhaps Jonesboro, changes to British English (mentioned by Jonesboro in an edit summary). Dougweller (talk) 13:22, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

See also Traditional Values Coalition. Dougweller (talk) 14:45, 6 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Leads

Hi, Leads are supposed to be a standalone introduction to the article, and in some cases the leads are too short and miss key content. I am trying to improve the leads with my efforts.OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 15:29, 6 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

In some cases, there will be a simply-worded sentence from the body of the text that summarizes a section, and I think that it makes sense to re-use this sentence from the body in the lede. I looked in the MOS:LEAD, and I didn't find an explicit prohibition of re-using text from the body. There are, however, statements that the lead should summarize the body's text and that editors should not add too much detail. In the case of the soul article, I don't think that listing the key subgenres (e.g., Motown) and saying a few words about each subgenre is too much detail. I am not trying to be difficult. I am just trying to improve the articles. I have re-attempted to add to the leads of some of the articles you reverted. In ska, I think it is a pertinent piece of info to tell the reader that 2 Tone mixes ska with punk, or that the third wave took place in a number of countries (the article body lists the UK, Germany, Australia, Japan and the US). I am happy to discuss this with you, and try to negotiate a middle ground between the two extremes of having leads be very vague and the other extreme of having too many details. I believe that pop punk's lead was too generic; it didn't name even the most prominent bands that are discussed in the article (e.g., Green Day and Blink-182)OnBeyondZebrax (talk) 14:30, 8 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Your addition of "alleged" in the Liberal Fascism article

I reverted your addition of "alleged" in Liberal Fascism. It is a problem because, to quote WP:ALLEGED, "words such as supposed, apparent, alleged and purported can imply that a given point is inaccurate". Using alleged without citing a source is editorializing on your part and an introduction of bias into the article. The sentence was "Liberal Fascism: The Secret History of the American Left, From Mussolini to the Politics of Meaning is a book by Jonah Goldberg on the origins and nature of fascist movements." This is an accurate sentence on its own. Adding "alleged" before origins does nothing but imply inaccuracy, so it introduces a bias. AmateurEditor (talk) 02:25, 21 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

The extremely biased book Liberal Fascism is full of editorlizing on the part of the author. Goldberg makes opinionated claims about the so-called origins and nature of fascist movements that are not based in reality. The premise of the book is innaccurate, so pointing out that fact is neutral, not biased.Spylab (talk) 02:25, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]
I've read the book, and I don't think we are going to agree on its accuracy, but as editors here we ought to be able to agree on neutral wording for the article. For example, I have no problem with your most recent edit and I won't be changing it. AmateurEditor (talk) 03:45, 22 December 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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antifa

the truth runs deeper than just "militant anti-fachism" and possibly not facism related at all despite the name. VICE just made a documentary trailer exposing them as a heroin cult stemming from a group named "HambergersAndHeroin." i'm also seeing connections between them and pederast heroin cartels that flurished under the obama administration. so "militant" might not apply as well as terrorist. saw your talk on the antifa talk page under Merging. 107.77.209.142 (talk) 04:57, 7 June 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Tell us about your experiences editing the English Wikipedia!

Hi Spylab!

I am conducting an interview study about how Wikipedia editors collaborate in the English edition of Wikipedia. The project description is on the WMF meta wiki: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Characterizing_Collaboration_Models_in_the_EN,_FR_and_ES_Language_Editions_of_Wikipedia.

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