To give a Dobos torte and spread the WikiLove, just place {{subst:Dobos Torte}} on someone else's talkpage, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend.
You don't seem to have a handle on the policy for editing the article about AOC, so here is my understanding:
1) Anything AOC says, no matter how ridiculous, ill-informed, or offensive, can be included, because she is AOC. 2) Any statement in support of AOC is of course allowed. 3) Any statement critical of her or her policies or positions is not allowed unless a) it specifically mentions her by name (not just refuting statements she made or positions she took), and b) was widely reported in liberal media. 4) Any edit which includes a cite to Fox News will we immediately reverted, despite Wikipedia listing Fox News as a reliable source. 5) If you take issue with the policy, some editor will cite a Wikipedia rule that has little if any relevance. I hope this clarifies things for you. -JohnTopShelf (talk) 17:58, 3 July 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Meanings of minor planet names: 500001–501000 AFD repeat
Greetings, Rusf10. Alansohn, who, AFAIK has been diligently abiding by his IBAN for far longer than the expected six months, has contacted me with concerns that you are stalking him. I do see you returned from a break of editing to immediately nominate two of his creations for deletion, plus Elizabeth Shin, a barely-edited article you showed up to nominate for deletion immediately after Alan expanded it. I find it unlikely that this is all a coincidence and that you were not going through Alan's contribs, and while I'm not saying your intent was to harass, stalking an editor who's IBANNED from you and nominating their pages for deletion is fairly likely to be interpreted as either harassing or baiting behavior. ~Swarm~{sting}02:03, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Swarm:As he has done frequently in the past, Alansohn is making false allegations again. Despite not being under an IBAN, I have attempted to not directly engage him in any way. I have not taken any break from editing either. I have just been editing less frequently than in the past. It is absurd that he would accuse me of stalking him over the Elizabeth Shin article. I just reviewed the editing history of the article now and see that his only edit in the 15 years that the article existed was to add a single sentence. Its just a bad article, it has absolutely nothing to do with him since he's barely edited it. As for the New Jersey government templates, there are many reasons to delete these, they fill NJ municipal articles with bloat and are far from the norm for city articles on wikipedia. The community has not taken up this issue for years and I think its time to bring the New Jersey articles in line with the articles from all other states. The core of the issue is that Alansohn believes he has WP:OWNERSHIP of all New Jersey articles.--Rusf10 (talk) 02:52, 4 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
You initiated three consecutive nominations for deletion for pages that Alan had either created or recently contributed to. The encyclopedic merits of your nominations aside, it is not really believable that it was a coincidence, particularly when you link at the history of Elizabeth Shin. I can't read minds, so I can't determine who's in the right, but you're well aware that this exact thing is part of a long-running issue between you two, to the extent that you accepted a TBAN from this specific thing. And that's the thing—you're not banned from this any more. And we can't know that your intent is to harass. But it can be reasonably construed as baiting. Surely you can understand that. As a neutral party, I think it's a pretty reasonable reaction, given the context, the timing, and the history. It would seem like the exact sort of thing I cautioned you against doing. One deletion nom isn't going to create an issue, but this looks like a "drive by". Not saying it was intended as such, just that that's how it looks. It's not some wild, unhinged allegation like you're saying it is. While you're not under sanctions, I'm sure you agree that we do not need the conflict to re-erupt because of unlikely "coincidental" interactions that may or may not be intentional, depending on who you choose to believe. "I'm not under sanctions" will not exactly be a great look if it re-erupts at a community noticeboard, you know? I'm not out here to give you a hard time because I'm somehow invested in this conflict. I'm purely here because I closed the discussion, which means that Alan is coming to me with his complaints. So I can pass it along that it seems like you're maybe pestering Alan in some way, and that it would be in everyone's best interest if you were more careful about not doing that, and tbh it doesn't really matter whether you have good excuses for the interactions or not. If the complaints keep coming over debatable interactions that Alan thinks are meant to bait him, we're going to end up with yet another protracted thread at AN/I about it and relitigate the existing sanctions. ~Swarm~{sting}22:25, 6 October 2019 (UTC)[reply]
An article you recently created, SPORTSfever Television Network, does not have enough sources and citations as written to remain published. It needs more citations from reliable, independent sources. (?) Information that can't be referenced should be removed (verifiability is of central importance on Wikipedia). I've moved your draft to draftspace (with a prefix of "Draft:" before the article title) where you can incubate the article with minimal disruption. When you feel the article meets Wikipedia's general notability guideline and thus is ready for mainspace, please click on the "Submit your draft for review!" button at the top of the page. CASSIOPEIA(talk)09:28, 4 November 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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You removed consensus wording that was established after several lengthy and broadly participated talk page threads. Please undo your recent edit to the text concerning the investigation and impeachment and share your views on talk to seek consensus for any text you feel is more appropriate. SPECIFICOtalk23:01, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It goes back literally months. You'd best review the talk archives before you're so quick to revert next time. Saves everyone time and trouble and helps you gain credibility. SPECIFICOtalk23:13, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
{YO|SPECIFICO}}You are wrong, the wording does not go back months, it was put in about a week ago, please review the page history.--Rusf10 (talk) 23:18, 19 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Revenge AfD?
Hi Rusf10, I hope you're having a splendid holiday weekend. I thought you should know that this looks an awful lot like a reaction to this. That's not a good look. - MrX 🖋 21:11, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Really? So you were new page patrolling? No, that can't be because I'm auto-patrolled so you would not have seen it in the queue. Given that the article has ample sources; its subject is notable; it's grammatical; it's properly formatted; and it had no maintenance tags, I'm incredulous that out of 6,940,695 articles you just happened to find this "poor" article right after I reverted you edit.
MrX, I sympathize with that sentiment. When an article, including a stub, passes the criteria for a new article, an AfD is seen as a bad faith action. Alternatively, it can also be seen as a competency issue. Which is worse? Either one is bad, and the combination even worse. It's generally best to leave it alone and wait, especially if one has a COI of the negative kind. Don't be seen as a censor of that which you don't like. -- BullRangifer (talk) 01:23, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Wow. I have this page watchlisted in case any one wonders about my comment here or elsewhere and have to say the threats, bullying and bad faith accusations and the questioning of an editors competency are all violations of numerous polices and arbcom decisions.--MONGO (talk) 16:13, 22 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Then take it to Arbcom, or just mind your own business MONGO. - MrX 🖋
I doubt much will happen at AN/I as ElC suggested it probably needs to be brought up at AE where the person you are complaining about has been previously warned not once but twice. It may get an unwelcome reception or little response what with the holidays upon many of us and seen as uncharitable. Or keep all this in your hip pocket for the next episode since this is a repeat issue.--MONGO (talk) 22:33, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MONGO:I have no idea why you are agreeing with ELC. AE has never been a fair process. No matter what, every time I bring I complaint there I am attacked by biased admins, including one in particular who is completely arrogant and refused to recuse himself despite multiple people telling him he was WP:INVOLVED. I do not see how personal attacks on my talk page are automatically an AE issue.--Rusf10 (talk) 23:54, 24 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Its all in the diffs Rusf10. If the diffs show what you claim (and I think they do) and the report to AN/I gained no traction then AE is the only other place it can go for now. Unless you want to file a full blown case at arbcom and that will be a slugfest, trust me. At AE they may sanction and they may blow it off but the AN/I thing is done and it won't be forum shopping since ElC said it belongs at AE. Or you could ask Awilley to examine the evidence but I prefer a plurality of admins on this matter. That editor once also said I had a competency issue...that and other things long overdue to be addressed are going to be real soon. But for now...its eggnog time.--MONGO (talk) 02:46, 25 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Rusf10. My advice that you take this to AE was wrong apparently but I was going by an earlier comment by El C that the complaint belonged at AE. Foolishly, I anticipated some justice might be had, alas, tis not to be so and I am a fool for thinking such a forum would be anything other than what it has always been. My apologies.--MONGO (talk) 23:11, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@MONGO:Not really your fault. This whole thing is a trap. BullRangifer basically interpreted user:Awilley's sanction/warning from last time to mean he can't personally attack anyone on an article talk pages, so that's means he now has a license to do so anywhere else he pleases(including user talk pages). Furthermore he refuses to admit he attacked me at all or apologize. Your diffs prove that his problem isn't just with me, but no one cares.--Rusf10 (talk) 23:19, 28 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
1. Don't pin this on bad advice from El_C. Yes, he said that AE was the correct venue, but he definitely didn't advise you to take it there. He said, "Rusf10 is free to relist this as an AE request, but I don't know if it is going to amount to much." and that was after saying he didn't find the content in question to be a personal attack.
2. BullRangifer didn't interpret...that's literally what the sanction says. Article Talk pages. But no, he can't personally attack anyone anywhere else, because WP:NPA applies everywhere.
3. If you really want an apology you could try asking for one. Or a retraction/strike. (That's what BR is supposed to do when he slips up on talk pages, and there's a good chance he'll do it here too.) But in my experience the best thing to do with personal attacks is to ignore them. They just make the attacker look bad. (See also meatball:DefendEachOther) ~Awilley (talk)01:51, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@Awilley:I understand WP:NPA applies everywhere, but BullRangifer has taken it to mean until someone comes to him to specifically say that personal attacks aren't allowed on user talk pages (like you did with the sanction for article talk pages), that's this is okay. This is why I don't think you sanction really made sense anyway. You basically told BullRangifer that he can't personally attack people on article talk pages which is something he never was allowed to do to begin with. I would not have filed a complaint against BullRangifer this time if not for two reasons: 1. I was not involved with any current dispute with him when he attacked me. 2. He attacked my competence, the same exact thing he attacked me for in the past and was warned about.--Rusf10 (talk) 02:17, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Awilley, no idea why we have NPA policies or expectations that editors are to refrain against commenting on other editors motivations, biases or mental capabilities of they aren't enforced. The occasional slip up is to be ignored yes but a constant barrage with multiple examples that are done even after being warned? There is no doubt in my mind that if I was reported with the diffs offered I'd be TB immediately. Instead we see the reporter being vilified for ah, reporting infractions and then being told to ignore those infractions.--MONGO (talk) 02:52, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
1. I'm not going to wait for Rusf10 to seek an apology. I'll strike it right now. It was ill-advised, and I'm sorry about that.
2. El C is an experienced administrator who made the right call. My comment was a criticism, not a personal attack. Not all unpleasant things that are said are personal attacks. They're just uncomfortable criticisms. If I had resorted to name calling, now that would be a personal attack. Civil criticisms should not be interpreted as anything other than that. They are not personal attacks. The civil expression of differences of opinion should not be punished.
3. To make sure there is no misunderstanding of what I meant, I consider it a bad idea to ignore the notability rules for article creation and start an AfD. If an article is based on RS, give it a chance. Wait a while. If it was created on a deceptive or false basis, or it lacks RS to document notability, then, after a few days, try an AfD.
4. Awilley is absolutely correct that NPA applies everywhere, especially on article talk pages. Differences of opinion and criticisms that are directed at editors should be dealt with elsewhere, such as on personal talk pages. In that regard, Awilley did not unfairly intend for me to live by a different or higher standard than every other editor, although that has been the effect of the sanction I live under. So be it. Many other editors regularly engage in very hard criticisms, swearing, name calling, ad hominem attacks, etc, without anything happening to them, and they do it in front of many admins, including Awilley. I just have to accept that they are judged by a different standard. Even before and without the sanction, I do not engage in such behaviors, so my "infractions" have been rare and mild compared to what other editors are regularly allowed to do all the time. Where things can get really dicey are drama boards, which are designed for especially nasty things to be said, and, if backed by good diffs, they are not considered personal attacks. It takes thick skin to survive around here.
5. Drama boards should be used as a last resort. The process is inherently disruptive. Conflict resolution should start on article talk pages, then personal talk pages, and then, if no mutual understanding or apologies are reached, bring others into the picture. One does not have to be a Christian to see the wisdom of Christ's advice:
"If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector." Matthew 18:15-17 (ESV)
If, after all that, a resolution cannot be achieved, only then should one go to AN/I, AE, etc. Those are nuclear options and very disruptive. They often create more heat than light.
That's why, in all the years I've been here (16 years), I have rarely used those measures, and never without having solid backing among a group of involved editors who agree on the nature of the problem. I'm not about to start a procedure where I'll end up standing alone looking like a fool. I don't trust my judgment that much, but if other editors have also been involved in trying to solve the same problem, then together we can accomplish something at a drama board.
We should seek to de-escalate, rather than escalate, problems. We should not try to get other editors into trouble. We should try to save them and maintain a collegial atmosphere. Seeking to escalate problems is battlefield behavior. It shows ill intent, a violation of AGF. By contrast, those who seek peaceful solutions are not engaged in battlefield behavior.
Only if an editor is recalcitrant and repeatedly refuses to collaborate or follow policy should we go to extreme measures, and then only to protect the project and defend our policies. We all make mistakes, and we should not be punished for occasional missteps. "Judge not lest you be judged by the same measure with which you judge." -- BullRangifer (talk) 03:09, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
That...ranks up there with one of the best non apologies I have read yet on this website. Ahem...you even questioned his competency twice in opening monologue over at AE. Above you call him disruptive for seeking an end to your attacks. Amazing.--MONGO (talk) 03:22, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@BullRangifer:I do not accept your apology because it is not an apology. Even now, you still refuse to acknowledge the fact that you personally attacked me. And i have no idea why you keep referring to dispute resolution when we were weren't engaged in a dispute. You came here to attack me completely unprovoked. And although I respect others religious beliefs, I am not religious myself and do not appreciate you coming here to preach to me when you can't even admit to your own wrongdoing.Rusf10 (talk)
Have you noticed that both of you keep using the word "attack" many times above, even though others have told you it wasn't an attack? Even after they have told you, you keep repeating it. Just think about it. Your perceptions need to be tweaked, and no one else can do it for you. You can decide to remain angry or not. It takes a conscious decision to see things in a more positive light.
And MONGO, for some reason you are always the one edging Rusf10 on and inciting them to go after me and take revenge, so you share in all this. That doesn't help them or anyone else. You too have a grudge against me. You didn't use to be like this.
If you both want to keep carrying a grudge against me, that's on you. It harms both of you more than me, and that's both a sad and unfortunate pattern that keeps repeating itself. A grudge is like cancer in the soul, just like being unforgiving. It will keep gnawing away within you. If you could let go of it you'd both find more peace. We don't have to have wonderful feelings about each other, but you'd be better off without that grudge. Really, just let it go, and take the high road. You're both better than this. -- BullRangifer (talk) 06:25, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
BullRangifer, keep up the good work. You just carry on as usual...dont change a thing. Keep doing exactly what you've been doing.--MONGO (talk) 08:00, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
Rusf10, I was told after a one day ban last summer that all non-complimentary personal commentary about another editor--even if you're simply repeating something the editor has said about himself--is considered out of bounds. I found this clarifying at the time, and I've tried to abide by it since then, and I do think it is helpful advice. At that time, on my talk page, there was something of a consensus to reject the distinction made above between personal criticism and personal attacks. We should really be making no such distinction in my view. You don't need to talk about other editors to edit content. But, as expected, I have seen that this standard is really only for people like you and me, and another standard is in place for others. Shinealittlelight (talk) 13:12, 29 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
"this standard is really only for people like you and me, and another standard is in place for others." This is precisely the problem. @Awilley: If BullRangifer were perceived as a "pro-Russian" editor, can you imagine admins at WP:AE making excuses for BullRangifer's atrocious Asperger's comment? I'm sure I'd be site-banned in short order for such a comment, and the very same admins now making excuses for BR would be leading the charge against me. This is what I meant by "ideological allies." It's obvious where the ideological sympathies of most of the admins active at WP:AE lie, and pretending this isn't an issue just perpetuates the problem. The Kafkaesque logic about banning Rusf10 from AE for making what almost everyone acknowledges is a valid complaint is just further confirmation of this ideological bias. The admins see a clear, egregious violation of Wikipedia's rules of civility (the Asperger's comment), but can't bring themselves to sanction an editor they politically align with, and instead propose a ban against the editor they politically dislike for the crime of bringing a valid complaint. It's so blatant, but the admins don't appear to care about even the appearance of impartiality any more. -Thucydides411 (talk) 20:19, 30 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
False edit summary against consensus
You removed the word "found" at Donald Trump claiming that you were implementing talk page consensus. Nobody would read the talk page, with many editors of all stripes advocating for "found", and believe that your edit or summary was appropriate. This is disruptive and it's concerning that you appear to have done similar things repeatedly in recent edits. SPECIFICOtalk22:13, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
@SPECIFICO:It's actually the opposite. Editors of all stripes are against using "found" (the word from the Democrats' partisan report and the quote from Adam Schiff). Only you, Mr. X, and one other person are insistent on using such misleading wording. A partisan report is not a statement of fact.--Rusf10 (talk) 23:57, 21 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
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Following up from several pings I got from AN/I the other day, yes the sanction is depricated, and sorry for not logging it. It slipped my mind at the time. In the absence of a formal sanction, you should still consider this a warning about filling vexatious requests for admin intervention against ideological opponents and recognize that if you continue to do so any admin is likely to hit you with a standard sanction like a topic ban. ~Awilley (talk)23:45, 26 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]
It would have been much easier to deal with current disputes had you not posted your "final thoughts." As hints for how to use Wikipedia procedure: 1)don't overgeneralize. Link to other instances if necessary, but don't draw conclusions 2) do not show animus. A plain objectivity works best. Rarely is someone out to get you in particular. If they are, rely on others to see it for themselves.
@DGG:Thanks for your advice and I can not thank you enough for being objective in this matter, but I call things the way I see them. MastCell's previous edit was on Dec 7th. He barely contributes to wikipedia at all anymore. Its pretty clear to me that someone (though I do not know who) summoned him to AE. MastCell wanted to topic ban me since June 2018 [1] over a dispute about using an opinion article as a reliable source. He called for a topic ban again here and said that questioning my "competence in this instance is arguably fair". Is he out to get me? You be the judge, but he is among the most biased admins and imo uses AE as a tool to ban people who's political beliefs do not align with his own. Another user has already documented his bias here.--Rusf10 (talk) 02:42, 2 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Notice that you are now subject to an arbitration enforcement sanction
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A pie for you!
I admire your tenacity in sticking to your position that MSNBC should be defined as the liberal organization that it is. I tried to insert language describing the network as liberal or left leaning, and was blasted out of the water each time. The overwhelmingly liberal editors here simply refuse to allow anything but their own POV in articles. Keep up the good fight! GlassBones (talk) 18:32, 21 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
William Barr
On the page, "William Barr," I added two lines of important information about the relationship between William Barr, his father Donald Barr, and Jeffrey Epstein. The edits were small, convey uncontroversial and biographically relevant facts, and were backed up with reputable journalistic news sources. You undid my revisions, noting that the article is about William Barr, not Donald Barr. Of course, this objection is irrelevant, since my edits were also about William Barr, and the mention of Donald Barr occurs in a paragraph that already contained details about Donald Barr, who is William Barr's father. If you believe that the article should contain *no* information about Donald Barr, then you should remove that entire paragraph and make your case for doing so on the discussion page. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2606:A000:1120:60:F8AE:4E8:E3C5:353F (talk) 20:39, 31 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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Hi. I was aghast to see that an article like Veracity of statements by Donald Trump exists on Wikipedia. You are absolutely right that it is an WP:Attack page. Trump derangement syndrome seems to have befallen Wikipedians. This is going to set a bad precedent. One could open up such an article just as well for US Presidents George W. Bush or Barack Obama who told untruths to the public that led to their military attacks against Iraq ("weapons of mass destruction") and Libya ("humanitarian") respectively. Not to mention for countless leaders of tinpot states. And then only people will realize that this is not the way to go, whatever their political leaning. So thanks for your delete proposal. You pointed to something that is rotten in the state of Wikipedia, its overt politicization. Gun Powder Ma (talk) 14:40, 23 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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It appears you have nothing to say about this AE report, such as its description of a user's behaviour, its diffs, or anything like that. To instead take the report as an opportunity to attack the filer over something completely different, as you did here is simply abuse of a noticeboard. What does your opinion that JzG ought not to be an admin have to do, even remotely, with the report? Did he file the report as an admin action, or has he acted as an admin in relation to the user Eternal Father? (I'll help you with the answer: no, certainly not.) Please consider removing your post. All it accomplishes is make you look bad. Bishonen | tålk18:34, 1 May 2020 (UTC).[reply]
@Bishonen: I did address the AE report, I said it was a content dispute. There really is anything more to say than that. Whether JZG took administrative action against Eternal Father is actually irrelevant except for the fact that administrator's should be held to a higher standard. How come in every other instance the filer's behavior is fair game, but here its not? Being an administrator JZG should have to address the very controversial opinions he has expressed. I am really sick of your double standards.--Rusf10 (talk) 18:47, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rusf10, which "controversial opinions"? That the Democratic Party is centre-right? That's an objective fact. This chart is representative, there are dozens out there like it. Sanders and Warren are centre-left, the mainstream of the Democratic Party is centre-right. Guy (help!) 15:35, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
@JzG:That is not an objective fact, but the opinion of an anonymous coward who won't even put his name to it. Such analysis are always subjective, but here we don't even know what criteria was used. As per the article "The website doesn’t disclose its exact methodology of how it places politicians and parties on the quadrant, but says it considers speeches, manifestos, and sometimes voting records." The only one calling the Democrats center-right is Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez[2] and she's a self-declared socialist.--Rusf10 (talk) 18:53, 3 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rusf10, https://www.politicalcompass.org/uselection2020, and others. The Democratic Party is to the right of parties like the Liberal Democrats in the UK, they align well with Germany's CDU. I have no idea why you would consider this remotely controversial. In fact the reason that Sanders and Warren stand out to such an extent is that they are centre-left candidates, whose policies are aligned with the European centre-left social democratic movement. And being centre-left puts them well to the left of the mainstream in the party, though the success of AOC and others does suggest that might be moving as younger voters become more engaged.
You mustn't view this through a lens of 2020 America. Of course the Democrats appear left by comparison with the 2020-era GOP. But a moment's reflection will show you that this will put Reagan and GWB in the centre, which is absurd.
This political compass website that you like simply is not a reliable source. It is a complete mystery where the came up with this scale.--Rusf10 (talk) 00:03, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Rusf10, and see the below as well. But there are two things here.
First: is the Democratic Party centre-right? That will depend on the specific analysis used. Straight left-right models give a different answer tot he more modern two-axis models, some of it depends on how you score individual questions, and some on how you define "the Democratic Party" (Biden's politics are to the right of Klobuchar's, for example). One might reasonably ask where the party's platform would lie if unconstrained by the need to be electorally acceptable, given that the Overton window is so far tot he right now. Reasonable people may differ. Centre-right, centre or centre-left, all will depend on how you define the terms and how you define the centre of gravity of the party. I would say centre-right (aligning with the CDU).
Second: is the view that the Democratic Party is centre-right, controversial? No, it is not. Politics exists outside the US as well. There are plenty of Keynesians in mainstream European politics, and precious few in the US. The Democratic platform remains, as of today, market-driven solutions. Adoption of a universal single-payer healthcare system and improved social security, funded by wealth taxes, would push them into centre-left territory for sure.
Now, the idea that the Democrats are centre-right might be wrong, by some measures of the various terms involved, maybe they are closer to the centre, but it's defensible.
As to AOC being a socialist, no, she is not. She calls herself a democratic socialist, which is a different thing, but even that is questionable: I don't think she actually supports universal social ownership, for example. But democratic socialist is as good a label as any for both her and Sanders. Both would be solidly in the mainstream centre-left in Europe, and both are acknowledged as being at the outer edges of the Democratic Party. Guy (help!) 17:11, 4 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Political orientation of the US Democratic Party
Hi. I just read this statement of yours. As a European I can tell you that, yes, in many other parts of the world the Democratic Party would be considered more centre-right than centre-left. Sanders and Warren would be considered centre-left but they don't represent the party mainstream, yet. And yes, the Republican Party would be considered far-right in many aspects. US politics are strange. Kind regards, Robby.is.on (talk) 20:55, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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I refuse to give wikipedia my email address for several reasons. I also think it is a very bad feature in wikipedia since it encourages stealth canvassing.--Rusf10 (talk) 05:09, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I'll ask you what I wanted to ask here in your user talk. I have recently been studying this page, but it isn't up to date. Several reports from the American Politics topic area, such as this one, are missing from that list. I would like to have a complete version of that page to refer to in discussions outside Wikipedia. I noticed you were one of the last users to update that page, so would you be willing to update it again and turn it into a complete list? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitreous humour (talk • contribs) 15:17, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I suppose I may update it in the future, haven't given much thought to it. Couldn't you just create your own list on another website?--Rusf10 (talk) 18:08, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know enough about the history of that topic area to adequately update the list by myself. But if you're willing to do it, I could try to help you. I can't update the list by myself, but I could provide links to some of the reports that need to be added. Would you like me to do that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitreous humour (talk • contribs) 01:34, 5 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]
re 'consensus to overturn'
Hi Rusf10 — and here, a 2/3 'consensus' that very arguably wasn't would seem to merit a 2/3 consensus to enforce — not a 1/2 'consensus' to overturn. Humanengr (talk) 00:20, 17 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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@Bishonen:I'm am very sorry that you see this as a hoax, that is not what I intended. I have seen the terms used to criticize CNN (an example of such criticism)as they have only recently begun to report on the Chinese government's poor handling of the corona virus (mainly the under-reporting of deaths). I'm not sure what the hoax actually would be, its just a term used to criticize the network (perhaps not as widespread as I thought), although I must say CNN is doing a much better job reporting this now than a few months ago.--Rusf10 (talk) 23:58, 1 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for your reply to the GOP RfC. I fell for the initial scoping of the question where it was implied that we had only these three options. You were correct that we didn't have to pick from any of the above. This isn't the first time I've seen a carefully crafted RfC where the choices end up being limited and all in one direction vs covering the spectrum of what prior discussions/consensus would support. Springee (talk) 15:50, 11 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Glad I could help. I'm just sick of people manipulating RFCs like that for political purposes. An RFC should be neutrally worded and then you express your opinion below.--Rusf10 (talk) 22:26, 12 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Do NOT attempt another completely moronic amount of vandalism like this again. Repeat this action and I report your account for vandalism and assure it is blocked. I shouldn't have to find the sources for this FOR you. You should find this YOURSELF. DON'T let it happen again!
@Neutralhomer: This borderlines on harassment. Do something like this again, I'll I report you! If you actually read the articles (not sure if you did), you would see that Sincaliar didn't actually purchase the station itself, just its other property. And I provided a source for my edits, it there on the page.--Rusf10 (talk) 07:27, 28 March 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Reverted and reported. You were warned. Do it again, I take it ANI. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 07:32 on March 28, 2021 (UTC)
Bally Sports website amd app
I'm posting this here because its definitely more of a forum-type post, but what the flying heck is going on with Bally Sports and their website and app? I was very surprised that the "Coming Soon" notice didn't appear on the Bally Sports website the day of the launch date announcement. Further, I'd have had sports stories on the website for a week before the launch, or at least a link to a Sinclair-owned website like Stadium. I'm Assuming Good Faith that this might not have been done for legal reasons, but there is absolutely no credible reason that the site should not have launched at Midnight on March 31. (I know I looked at it expecting a launch.) This looks to be a SNAFU of epic proportions. Heads should roll! BilCat (talk) 18:27, 2 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
The website went live today, probably some time this morning East Coast time. Hopefully the app won't be too far behind, and will actually work! BilCat (talk) 19:26, 12 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@LooneyTraceYT:I'm not sure exactly what you're asking. I'm going byTemplate:Infobox television channel. The owner clearly is Diamond Sports Group which is a joint-venture and not well-known. For the owner, the template says "(add the owner's parent company/companies if not a well known name)", so I did, the parents of Diamond Sports Group are Sinclair and Entertainment Studios. I hope that answers your question.--Rusf10 (talk) 03:32, 10 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, I'm Meters. I noticed that you added or changed content in an article, Sears, but you didn't provide a reliable source. It's been removed and archived in the page history for now, but if you'd like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. If you think I made a mistake, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Please do not source claims to contributor posts on Forbes.com Per WP:FORBESCON, unless the material has been written by a staff member or has been published in Forbes magazine this tis not a WP:RS. And please do not make claims that are not supported by the sources ."once these three stores close their doors, likely by May or June, there will be only 21 Kmarts and 28 Sears stores left in operation" does not mean that there are 28 stores now, or even that the number 28 is certain.Meters (talk) 23:44, 11 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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@Rusf10: Just to let you know that Three Angels Broadcasting Network, has sold all of there television stations. And I don't think none of them are notable anyway. Catfurball (talk) 16:16, 13 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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No worries. It really was a different time back then — mayors really were once considered "inherently" notable as long as the city surpassed an entirely subjective "regional prominence" test. But there weren't actually any specific standards for how "regional prominence" would be measured, so as long as a city's article made it sound regionally prominent there was no requirement to actually source its mayors beyond technical verification that they had existed as mayors. Yeah, it sounds stupid, given all that we now know about how determined some people are to fill Wikipedia with unsourceable junk — it was stupid, and I say that as someone who was there. But just because our rules have changed, and I've changed along with them, doesn't mean I've always actually remembered all of the old junk I created in the past for the purposes of getting rid of it myself. So, again, no worries. Bearcat (talk) 20:39, 25 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Fallbach (Inn, Innsbruck), which you proposed for deletion. A quick Google search already shows that there exist sources with significant coverage, although they are in German.. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Cyfal (talk) 21:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Lohbach (Inn), which you proposed for deletion. Significant coverage can be found by taking a look at the references present in the German version of this article, thus it is clearly notable.. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Cyfal (talk) 21:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Aldranser Bach, which you proposed for deletion. Although the article is still missing sources, with a quick Google search I've found some more information about this river, I expect that further sources in Austrian books do exist, especially because it is a protected area.. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Cyfal (talk) 21:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Weiherburgbach, which you proposed for deletion. Although the article is still missing sources, with a quick Google search I've found some more information about this river, I expect that further sources in Austrian books do exist, especially because it is in the town of Insbruck.. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Volderer See, which you proposed for deletion. Although the article is still missing sources, the text - which is taken from the German Wikipedia - with the myth etc. shows that significant coverage exists, I guess in in Austrian sources.. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Small Pond (Innsbruck), which you proposed for deletion. Although the article is still missing sources, significant coverage shurely exists in Austrian sources, especially because it is near a castle.. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks!
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Hi Rusf10, please note that WP:PROD is only for cases of uncontroversial deletion, it must only be used if no opposition to the deletion is expected. Most of your recent contributions do not fall into this category. It is a bit hard to improve all those articles within one week if you do nothing else than adding WP:PROD everywhere. --Cyfal (talk) 21:33, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyfal:I am familiar with the prod process. I do consider the vast majority of these uncontroversial. For example, Small Pond (Innsbruck) which I have been been forced to take to AfD. The incredibly small size alone is almost enough of a reason to delete, but with the lack of sources it becomes a clear delete. Yet, you object because there WP:MUSTBESOURCES and "because it is near a castle" (completely irrelevant). As for having only one week to improve the article, that's not true. For most of these articles, editors have had nearly 15 years and have failed to do so.--Rusf10 (talk) 22:04, 6 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe you can consider the Small Pond as an uncontroversial PROD case. However, if you take a look in your on the vast amount of {{Old prod}} you added, a quite large number was contested. So you should re-adjust your view of what is controversial or not. --Cyfal (talk) 21:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I want to add to this-- your prod statement on Margarita Cordova's article ("Does not meet WP:NACTOR, only had minor acting roles, no rs coverage") was incorrect. Even in its lean state, the article named two soaps on which she played for years; the external IMDb link (which is to be considered when deciding to prod or nominate for deletion) had a total of hundreds (184 + 289) of episodes credited for those two shows alone. That's hardly "minor acting roles;" it meets the acting notability criteria. It looks like you aren't much of a researcher, so it makes sense that you wouldn't find some of the things that I did, but a prod was inappropriate here. If it is controversial, nominate for deletion. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 00:04, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Cyfal:Maybe you need to re-adjust your view of what is notable. Every stream, brook, and drainage ditch does not qualify for an article. So I have now have taken these articles to AfD where I predict they will be deleted anyway (just like most others articles I nominated).--Rusf10 (talk) 02:06, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@DiamondRemley39: I do not intend to take Margarita Cordova to AfD. Sometimes sources are found and I change my mind. First, IAFD is not a reliable source. Second, it really is not all that hard to be in hundreds of soap opera episodes when they put out a new episode every single day of the week. She was not one of the main characters on either of those shows. Her stage career which previously was not even mentioned in the article seems to be more notable. Why doesn't the person who wrote this low quality article get any of the blame. The WP:ONUS is not on me. If the article was written correctly in the first place (even without proper sourcing), I would have been able to correctly ascertain her notability.--Rusf10 (talk) 02:06, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I never "blamed" you. I didn't write the article and I don't care who did. I just said not to prod an article about someone with hundreds of appearances on television--that would be controversial and this not a good reason to prod. Best to avoid subjects and eras out of your depth--where walked sources will do the trick. Stick to geographic locations--you seem rather successful in that sphere. DiamondRemley39 (talk) 02:14, 9 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
PSinPCAfD
I did read USEFUL and LISTOUTCOMES before I linked them. I was trying to be ironic. The frustrating aspect of the discussion is that I don't get responses to the particular points I present. You are much more responsive and I appreciate your thoughts. – S. Rich (talk) 05:31, 7 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the {{proposed deletion/dated}} tag from Grand Pond, which you proposed for deletion. Although the article is still missing sources, the text - which is taken from the German Wikipedia shows that coverage exists, I guess in Austrian sources - the history mentions Innsbruck Information. If you still think this article should be deleted, please do not add {{proposed deletion}} back to the page. Instead, feel free to list it at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion. Thanks! Cyfal (talk) 21:27, 8 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
Philip James Barraud
Thankyou. I somehow forgot the references. This is now fixed. Can I remove the deletion tag? Best regards Notafly (talk) 16:05, 13 May 2021 (UTC) Ps More on Barraud later.[reply]
a man who has the lowest title of honor that can be given in the U.K., below a baron but above a knight, and given from father to son A little explanation is obviously required. What that means is that baronet is the lowest hereditary title that can be passed on. However, below it are eleven grades of knighthood and damehood, which confer titles, and seven levels of companion and commander (of which CBE is the lowest), which do not but which have long been held to satisfy WP:ANYBIO #1. So baronet is indeed eighteen levels above CBE! It's really not a good idea to nominate for deletion any British or Commonwealth person with a title or a postnominal beginning with C! They satisfy ANYBIO. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:19, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Necrothesp:The reason the article was kept was because the subject gets auto-notability under WP:NPOL. With very weak sourcing (even now), it was not known to me that he was a member of parliament. Being a baronet had nothing to do with the article being kept. It does not matter how many levels of knighthood there are because knights are not given auto-notability either.--Rusf10 (talk) 17:25, 19 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(1) The article already said he was an MP and this was sourced; you just didn't read it properly before nominating. (2) Precedent and consensus is very clear that CBEs and above (including knights and 1st baronets) are considered notable per WP:ANYBIO, as I have shown; suggesting that this is not "a well-known and significant award or honor" is obviously ridiculous to anyone with any knowledge of the British honours system. (3) Listening to people who obviously do know what they're talking about on a particular subject is always a good idea rather than claiming you've researched it and then showing that you don't really understand what it is that you've read. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:08, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Necrothesp:1. If you actually bothered to look at the article I nominated, you'd know that it was completely unsourced so that is an outright lie. 2. As I said before, there is no policy to give every knight and baronet auto-notability (like there is for certain types of politicians) 3. I refuse to listen to arrogant people like yourself who feel they have WP:OWNERSHIP over a topic. I do not wish to discuss this further.--Rusf10 (talk) 14:33, 20 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
I fear you are the one being arrogant. But as you are clearly not prepared to listen to anyone else or accept that you do not know everything, I shall not comment further. -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:16, 21 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]
... putting this here rather than in the AfD location as it's a personal detail: if you like the idea of creating a page for the concept of launched-from-a-lifeboat inflatables, to replace the X-class, Y-class and any other mini-pages of dubious notability, and if consensus leans that way, then I do have a lifeboat enthusiast friend who might be able to draft appropriate text. No guarantee, I haven't asked... Elemimele (talk) 20:36, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
You changed the name of Fox College Sports
I couldn't find a source that Bally Sports is using their own branding on the former Fox College Sports networks. Do you have one? I'm wondering if changing the name on the article was the right move. Mannysoloway (talk) 18:18, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
@Mannysoloway:There isn't really a source, it only appears on a few channel lineups from small cable companies. The problem is these channels have been on the way out for a number of years. I don't have these channels anymore and neither do most people. What I do know is that they were included as part of the sale to Sinclair and it only makes sense that they would have had to rebrand since what little content they have would come directly from the Bally Sports regional networks. I know that doesn't help much, but we don't even have a source confirming that the channels still exist (other than their appearance on a few lineups).--Rusf10 (talk) 20:23, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
(talk page watcher) I had the same question, and also haven't been able to find anything either. Perhaps we can ask at one of the college sports projects and see.if someone has the channels on their cable system. BilCat (talk) 21:57, 9 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]
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Here's the MSG TV schedule for the next week, all the Bally Syndications: America Ninja Warrior, the French Open, Volleyball, airs on MSG or MSG Plus. The only Bally content that YES carries is the ACC on RSN package which is part of a seperate deal. Esolo5002 (talk) 04:32, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
@Esolo5002:MSG Plus is the primary affiliate (as it always has been), but YES also carries select Bally Sports programming. ACC is syndicated through ESPN+, so that's irrelevant. An example of Bally Sports programming on YES is the World Poker Tour, [3]--Rusf10 (talk) 04:36, 23 May 2022 (UTC)[reply]
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