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Caught by a colocation web host block but this host or IP is not a web host. My IP address is _______. I'm sorry this might be my fault. I keep getting logged out for some reason. I think I can fix this problem. Can I have my editing privileges back, please? You'll see that I've nominated the Eureka flag article for a-class staus. But there might be more work to do as it's being looked at presently. The number of hours I've already spent on that article is substantial and I'd really like to see it upgraded. Robbiegibbons (talk) 01:17, 9 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

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I have had a look at this issue. I don't deny the content looks very similar. But I think you'll find that the author of this page <https://bootcampmilitaryfitnessinstitute.com/2020/12/03/what-was-the-eureka-rebellion-1854> has plagiarised the Wikipedia article in question rather than me having plagiarised them. I think there is something called the way back machine that would allow Wikipedia to make that determination.
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My mistake, I definitely should have looked more closely. However, material copied from other Wikipedia articles should be attributed, and I've done so in an edit summary and on the talk pages of both articles. I'm sorry about leaving such a menacing template on your talk page without doing my due diligence. — SamX [talk · contribs] 05:55, 19 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Eureka Rebellion

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Eureka Stockade (fortification) and Eureka Stockade Memorial Park

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:13, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of List of notable public officials in the Eureka Rebellion for deletion

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of List of detainees at the Eureka Stockade for deletion

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:14, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Chartism and the Eureka Rebellion for deletion

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Loyalism and the Eureka Rebellion for deletion

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Republicanism and the Eureka Rebellion for deletion

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Nomination of White nationalism and the Eureka Rebellion for deletion

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 21:17, 15 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ways to improve Vexillology of the Eureka Rebellion

Hello, Robbiegibbons,

Thank you for creating Vexillology of the Eureka Rebellion.

I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:

Very high quality article but the lede is very short for the casual reader? thanks

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Aszx5000 (talk) 13:38, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Vexillology of the Eureka Rebellion for deletion

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:23, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 14:26, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Bibliography of the Eureka Rebellion for deletion

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:46, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of Nationalities at the Eureka Stockade for deletion

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 17:47, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some Thoughts

Hi Robbiegibbons, I just wanted to touch on a few things with all the AFDs. First off, I know this can be a little demoralizing, but your depth of research and knowledge on this topic is really quite impressive. I think the main thing that you could benefit from is focusing on WP:NOTABILITY. You mention the Alamo a few times, which I often try not to compare things (see WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS) but even with the Alamo, take a look at {{Battle of the Alamo}}, the level of depth you are getting into is just too deep for Wikipedia. A good idea could be wrapping a lot of these articles and lists into larger grouping and then focusing on just providing the key information. As an example, you could create Legacy of the Eureka Rebellion and group a lot of these standalone articles into it (like the Chartism, popular culture, vexillology, Republicanism, White nationalism, etc). Regarding the lists, maybe a higher level list of people related to the Rebellion or the Stockade, with a focus on only the people who have Wikipedia articles. Again, I think the main issue I see imhop is splitting up a topic that would be better served as a higher level summary of just the key points. I hope this helps. « Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 18:00, 16 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

  • I want to second this. It's a matter of style. You obviously have the depth of content, but it needs to be styled like an encyclopedia article, and in particular to follow Wikipedia style. For example, the topics of all of the separate articles about the Rebellion need to be included in the main article, perhaps in abbreviated form. Look at Alamo-Legacy as an example. Each of your separate articles needs to be introduced in the main article, so think of it as an outline to the entire project. I might be able to find some time to help. Ping me at User talk:Lamona. Lamona (talk) 14:17, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Thank you I'm sure you are an experienced editor it's all good feedback. I'm going to have a good think about it and get back to you in the deletion threads. If I am going to continue as a wikipedian a great and general debate about where the series is at and where we go to from here is exactly what we needed. Robbiegibbons (talk) 03:04, 19 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    Hi - I'd mostly like to (somewhat) echo the comments above. I don't quite agree that all the Eureka articles you've created are deletion worthy, there are some where the problem is content related rather than notability related. Nevertheless, while I've taken a delete perspective regarding the White Nationalism article, looking at how that article has been written, if you're not already using it, I would encourage accessing the Wikipedia Library. I mention this, because much of the sourcing that you've placed in that article is significantly dated and when combined with the use of WP:PRIMARY sources this reinforces the SYNTH/OR issues. Discussion on issues related to Eureka and nationalism, race, gender, and ethnicity has moved significantly on since the first waves of popularisation of Eureka. I'd also recommend utilising high quality sourcing (ie academic presses or peer-review journals) rather than journalistic reports (eg Peter Fitzsimons is an opinion writer, rather than a trained historian). Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 01:22, 23 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eureka

Hi - thanks for your message. I am no longer a very active Wikipedian. I think some of your articles are excellently researched and very interesting but am not sure if they are not too detailed for an encyclopaedia.

At present I am working on a Eureka project at WikiTree and my areas of current focus can be seen at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Eureka_Stockade_todo

The difference between Wikipedia and Wikitree is expressed at https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1055378/contrasting-wikitree-and-wikipedia

  • Wikipedia only makes articles about notables, and notables are people where there are "secondary" publications debating various aspects of peoples' lives etc. Wikipedia editors are not supposed to focus too much on raw evidence, nor to make new hypotheses. So they should mainly gather published commentaries.
  • Wikitree, in contrast, (1) has mainly articles for non-notable people (2) specializes in listing out and analyzing the raw evidence and even adding comments about new hypotheses.

WikiTree is a genealogy site that records everyone regardless of notability. In line with the maxim "History remembers only the celebrated, genealogy remembers them all", I think Wikitree is a great place to remember all those caught up in the rebellion and by doing so allow people to connect to those who were there in different roles. So there is a list of police officers being developed at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Eureka_Police, a list of those arrested at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:Eureka_arrests and then witnesses called also on that page ... Timothy Hayes, who pleayed a leading role in the rebellion, is not notable to gain a Wikipedia article butresearch about his life is appropriately gathered at Wikitree https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hayes-3915 : that level of detail would not be appropriate on Wikipedia in my view.

Feel free to email me or otherwise contact me off-line.

Regards Matilda talk 05:23, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Thoughts about Eureka

Hello Robbiegibbons,

I've just seen what happened to those Eureka articles. I'd like to get in touch off-wiki. If that's possible for you, email me at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:EmailUser?wpTarget=Renerpho. Renerpho (talk) 05:09, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I will. But at this stage I've seen a few things during this process that makes me think I don't want to be involved with wikipedia any longer. Robbiegibbons (talk) 13:24, 8 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Nomination of British army in the Eureka Rebellion for deletion

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« Gonzo fan2007 (talk) @ 16:21, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Monty Miller

Hi User:Robbiegibbons - thanks for your work on the Eureka articles (which I've only just discovered), you've done a fantastic job in expanding Wikipedia's coverage of the topic. I'm wondering if you have come across any contemporary coverage of Montague Miller being present at the stockade? He is not listed in List of Eureka Stockade defenders, but in later life (around 1900 onwards), he was apparently quite adamant in claiming to have fought and been injured as a teenager. I'm a little dubious about this, given the passage of time between the rebellion and when his claims are first mentioned. I T B F 📢 03:03, 17 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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