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Hello, NoAm,

I have made a number of changes to the excellent article on Frank M. Ziebach, including adjusting the article headings again.

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  • Titles are generally nouns or noun phrases (Effects of the wild, not About the effects of the wild).
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I hope this clear things up for you. Thanks for your contributions. Ground Zero | t 13:53, 13 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please accept that the Wikipedia Style Manual applies to all Wikipedia articles, and do not go changing the section headings in violation of the manual. Thanks. Ground Zero | t 03:03, 14 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tongue River

Hi. Thanks for your note. I periodically monitor changes to Wyoming related pages (you can see the recent changes here), so I have been watching your edits from afar, you might say. I try to pitch in where I can, but since I saw that you were on a major effort to improve the article, I've tried to hold back and not step on your toes. We have very few active editors that edit Wyoming related articles, and most of our articles are in pretty poor shape, so when I see somebody take an interest in an article, I like to use the momentum and jump in and help if I can. As to the name of the article, the current name is used to differentiate it from other Tongue Rivers (such as Tongue River (North Dakota)). There are no hard and fast rules that say which state should be used in the case of a river that crosses state lines, but there are a number of alphabet soup guidelines that handling naming (WP:NAME, WP:MOS and Disambiguation) that would argue that keeping one state is best. Most of the river disambiguation names I see concentrate on the state in which the river is most prominent, though I wouldn't call that a rule by any stretch of the imagination. I don't think that the encyclopedia loses by keeping it named Tongue River (Montana) - the name is just used to make it unique the article itself is clear that the river originates in Wyoming. Also, on the Tongue River disambiguation page, the river is noted as being in both Wyoming and Montana. Like I said, there are no hard and fast rules that I am aware of; so if you want, you can ask at the Help Desk the best place to start a discussion about river naming guidelines. As for the picture, I can't see any reason why you can't use it if it was created by the USGS, all government works are automatically in the public domain. You can copy it to your computer and then upload it at Wikipedia:Upload making sure to indicate that it was a work of the US government, and the USGS in particular. Once it is uploaded you can replace the map in the infobox. I hope this helps - you can either respond here on on my talk page. Good luck. CosmicPenguin (Talk) 01:57, 5 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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York Article

Thanks for your help on the York article. No problem with the edit, but if you can add a source, that would improve it a lot. Many thanks. [[1]]Ebanony (talk) 23:29, 13 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for adding the citations. Good work on the article.Ebanony (talk) 03:23, 14 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Half Yellow Face, Crow Indian

Hello. Half Yellow Face, Crow Indian would seem to have way more information in it than can be verified by checking the two supplied references. Do you think you could cite the other sources? Thanks, Morwen (talk) 22:15, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Usernames

Hey. You've done some good work, but I've got a quibble re: your username. It implies that this account is being used by "the society" ("North American Geographical Society"); that's not permitted. Any given Wikipedia account is only to be used by one single person, and cannot be shared with other members of the NorAmGeogSoc.

I politely ask that you post a request to have your username changed, so as to more clearly indicate that you are one single person.

Apologies for the inconvenience. DS (talk) 14:08, 12 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know the mechanism to reply to you, but will try here. The NoAmGeogSoc is a single person, me. There are no other members of the NoAmGeogSoc. There are also no other users or members of the extended title, the North American Geographical Society, except me. I'm it. So my Wikipedia account, NoAmGeogSoc is used only by me, "one single person", and will be used only by me. I have filed to preserve my exclusive use of the North American Geographical Society name in my home state, but there is no other same named group out there. Anywhere. If you search the internet for "North American Geographical Society" you get nothing. By the way, I am also The Montana Geographical Society. Just me. I am thinking of becoming the Wyoming Geographical Society, soon. Neither of these is a Wikipedia account.

The notes above say to sign this with this: NoAmGeogSoc (talk) 23:36, 10 September 2013 (UTC). or maybe this: (NoAmGeogSoc (talk) 23:36, 10 September 2013 (UTC)). If that doesn't do it, well I am sincerely yours, the NoAmGeogSoc. Just me.[reply]

Good enough. I'd like to suggest, though, that you put a note on your userpage - "although my username means 'North American Geographical Society', the Society is just me" or words to that effect, so as to forestall any future mixups of this nature. DS (talk) 12:26, 11 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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Samuel A. Cherry

I recently found your article on Samuel A. Cherry (since Cherry County, Nebraska is on my watchlist). I've been going through it and cleaning it up to make it better conform to WP policies and guidelines.

Among other things, I note that you've used FindAGrave as a source. This is discouraged-- see Wikipedia:External_links/Perennial_websites#Find-a-Grave-- since there's essentially no vetting of the facts posted on the site. In this case, the FindAGrave contributor gave Cherry's West Point graduation year as 1877; a Google Books source, which I'll insert in the article, gives it as 1875.

As far as I know, it's quite legitimate to cite a FindAGrave photo of a tombstone as a source for the information on the stone. I've done this myself, in the case of Solomon Butcher. However, any other information on the site is suspect.

Thanks for the Cherry article; it's a nice addition to WP's coverage of Nebraska. Ammodramus (talk) 20:01, 12 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for your comments on my edits. I didn't know about the Ft. N. article until you pointed it out, but I've put it on my watchlist.
A question about the article: Why'd you add the parenthetical "(Nebraska)" in the article title? As far as I know, it's the only actual Ft. Niobrara that ever existed (although I'm not exactly a fount of information on the subject). My inclination would be to change the name to just plain "Fort Niobrara", with a hatnote to point to Fort Niobrara National Wildlife Refuge and to Fort Niobrara Wilderness (and I'm also inclined to think that the latter should be merged into the former, but that's getting outside of your area of interest). That seems to be the usage in other cases-- even Fort Kearney, which was actually one of several posts with that name. Would you object to my doing so? Among other things, that'd clear up the redlinks to Fort Niobrara in the Cherry County and possibly other articles. The alternative would be to keep your article title and create a disambiguation page at "Fort Niobrara"; but I'd say that Ft. N. is the primary topic in this case, so the article-with-hatnotes approach would be better. Ammodramus (talk) 00:15, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'll go ahead and do the page move. I'll probably wait till tomorrow-- my Internet time is drawing to a close, and since I haven't done hatnotes very often, I'll want some time to read up on them and correct any mistakes that I make.
Regarding references, I don't think you need to include a citation after every sentence, as long as they're not direct or indirect quotes, and/or potentially controversial in any way. This is especially true if a whole paragraph comes from a single source-- in that case, I just put a single citation marker at the end of the paragraph. If I use multiple sources in a paragraph, but I don't quote anybody or include anything that might come into dispute, I usually stick a string of citations at the end of the paragraph. To me, that makes the text a little more readable.
Also regarding citations, you can save yourself a few keystrokes on repeated citations where you're using a name. Once you've created a citation with a name, you don't have to type "<ref name=cherry></ref>"; you can just use "<ref name=cherry/>", with the slash at the end of the tag. That'll give you a tiny bit less keyboarding to do, and it also makes it a little easier to edit when there's a string of citations-- less risk of losing the closing "</ref>" tag. I've done this with the Lt. Cherry article, if you'd like to check it out.
If you want to get a little fancier, I like to use list-defined references, which is what I did with Lt. Cherry's article. Basically, that involves putting the citation information inside the {{Reflist}} in the references section. That way, it doesn't get eliminated by accident if somebody edits out a passage including citation information and doesn't check the edit summary to make sure that they're not orphaning a "<ref name=cherry/>" tag. It's also easier to read the text in the edit window if you don't have to wade through tangles of citation details.
By the "Ft. Table", did you mean the boxed business in the upper right? In Wikiparlance, that's known as an infobox, and you put them in using templates. The one you'd probably want to use for Ft. Niobrara is Template:Infobox military installation. If you'll follow that Wikilink, you can see how it works. You don't have to fill in all the parameters on an infobox-- if some of them aren't applicable or if you don't have the information, you can leave them blank.
Good luck with the Ft. N. article; leave me a note if I can be of help. I'll keep it on my watchlist and render what assistance I can. Ammodramus (talk) 01:31, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]
OK, it's now at Fort Niobrara. That allowed me to eliminate the orphan tag. Ammodramus (talk) 18:16, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Keya Paha County

I switched your citation to an online version of the LLF work, since that'd allow people to check the source more easily. In doing so, I noticed that LLF discusses the name both in the introduction (from which you got the quote) and in the section on KP County. I melded information from both, in preference to using a direct quote from LLF.

I pulled the etymology out of the lead, since the article's fairly short and the etymology section in the body text comes so quickly. It just seemed a bit redundant to have the same information occurring twice in such a short space.

No such thing as trespassing on another editor's turf (outside of their userpage): see WP:OWN. I sometimes like to give someone a heads-up before I make major changes to an article on which they've done the vast majority of the work, especially if I think that they're something of an authority on the subject area; but it's definitely not required. In fact, WP:BRD supports: edit, then discuss. Ammodramus (talk) 00:43, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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