User talk:Marshelec

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Foveaux Strait/GA1

Just letting you know that User:Ganesha811 has begun the review on the Foveaux Strait article. They noticed a couple of editors have been collaborating closely on the article. Feel free to respond to comments they provide. Thanks. Alexeyevitch(talk) 13:50, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Instrument photos

Hi, now that school holidays are over(!) I'm wondering if I should set up a project page, even if it's just a dairy of what I'm up to. Would that be appropriate? If so, where would be a good place - a sub page of the NZ notice board, or of my user page? I suppose I could make a start and then move it later. I'm hoping to gather the clans and get some photos organised for the last couple of weeks of August. — Jon (talk) 21:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonathanischoice How about setting up a taskforce as a sub-page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Musical Instruments ? You might end up with a great international collaboration ? You could always post about it on the WPNZ noticeboard as well. Marshelec (talk) 00:56, 23 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of shipwrecks of Southland

I've finished work on Draft:List of shipwrecks of Southland. As you started this draft, do you want to submit it for review, or do you think I should do so, or shall I simply move it to article space? I was thinking when I started work on it that I might create similar lists for other regions of New Zealand, but I've had my fill of the subject for now so I don't intend to pursue that idea in the immediate future.-Gadfium (talk) 03:42, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gadfium You have put a huge amount of work into this list - wow :). I am travelling at present and time is a bit limited. I will have a good look over the list article and get back to you with feedback (if any) within a few days, and then I suggest you move the article into mainspace. Once that is done, I will remove the existing list of shipwrecks from the Foveaux Strait article, leaving just a summary and a link to the new list article. Marshelec (talk) 05:51, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I'll be on holiday next week, but will respond after that.-Gadfium (talk) 08:53, 3 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gadfium Thanks for such a massive amount of work on this.:) Is there a need for any expansion of the lead ?? Apart from that point, I suggest you move the article into mainspace. I am happy to link to it from the Foveaux Strait article and then remove the list details from that article. The new list article could also be linked from other articles Stewart Island, Bluff Harbour, Fiordland, Southland Region and possibly Transport in New Zealand. I am happy to help with that if you want - just let me know._Marshelec (talk) 03:05, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved the article to List of shipwrecks of Southland and made links to it as you suggested. I haven't changed Foveaux Strait so you can do that.-Gadfium (talk) 00:59, 11 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Bushy Park boundaries - for map

@Prosperosity Hi, I have found what appear to be legal land boundaries for Bushy Park on the Horizons Regional Council GIS system. I have taken a screen shot and roughly marked up in red, my understanding of the outer perimeter of the Bushy Park property, including the homestead and its gardens. Here is a link to my screenshot: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1t1AxLZ2sQlS4kBFNyrF_gMYoc3nAM9HG/view?usp=drive_link I have previously looked into Open Street Map (and I have a user account). What steps would I have to go through to create a decent outline of the perimeter of Bushy Park in OSM, ie what approach is most practical for drawing/ tracing the boundaries ?_Marshelec (talk) 23:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oh! I stand corrected, Bushy Park is already on OSM and already between OSM and Wikidata (it just wasn't showing up when I searched for it). That means you should be able to display the area of the park in the infobox. --Prosperosity (talk) 23:29, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Aha - it's the infobox type which wasn't displaying the OSM polygon. How does that look? (we can also change the colour of the border). Prosperosity (talk) 23:33, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Prosperosity Yay, thanks for the help. I found another article with a template for including the OSM link into the map, and copied that, and bingo. I have an outline. Thanks so much :) See: Bushy Park (New_Zealand) now._Marshelec (talk) 23:43, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful! For the article, I'd suggest formatting the images slightly differently - splitting them up into 1 main image per section, with galleries for some sections such as the fauna/flora. At the moment on my screen they tend to run-on, which means some of the images aren't placed in the sections where they make the most sense (e.g. the main photo for the fauna section on my screen is the young nīkau palms image).
I've also noticed some repetition in content in the wetland/education/visitor centre sections - I wonder if some of these could be combined, or if some of the sections would flow better with a different format (the homestead section feels like it should be above the visitor centre section, since there are references to the stable there that make sense if the homestead is discussed first). Prosperosity (talk) 23:51, 8 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Prosperosity Thanks for the feedback. I have implemented those suggestions. See:Bushy Park (New Zealand)._Marshelec (talk) 05:09, 9 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hikurangi Trench

Ready for your input. Do you want to coordinate the page move to Hikurangi Trough when you have finished ? ChaseKiwi (talk) 17:05, 22 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carousels

@Canley Hi, I thought you might be interested in a couple of articles I have created about carousels in Melbourne and Geelong, after a recent visit.

Geelong Carousel ride - July 2024

We thought the Geelong Carousel was absolutely great - a fantastic restoration job, and a wonderful symbol of the revitalisation of the Geelong Waterfront that was undertaken from around 1996 to 2000. We were big kids and took a ride. Have a look at the video.:) I hope to get feedback on this article and new sources from the Geelong city authorities who own and operate the carousel. However, it has been two weeks since I emailed them and no reply so far.

After researching the Geelong Carousel, I found that there is an even older fully-restored and heritage-listed carousel at Melbourne Zoo (must see this on my next visit). I have created and published a second article: Melbourne Zoo Carousel. There is also a particularly fancy restored carousel at Luna Park in Melbourne, so I may carry on with this theme and prepare yet another carousel article.:)

The artist Patricia Mullins was heavily involved in the restoration of these carousels - particularly the restoration of the carousel horses. The article about her could do with some improvement, so I may give this a go. I found an email address for her and sent a message inviting feedback about the two carousel articles, but again I have not had a response. If you are interested, have a look at the two articles - I would love to expand these with more details of the restoration work, but I have not yet found suitable sources. (Hence my queries to the City of Geelong, and to Patricia Mullins.)_Marshelec (talk) 04:30, 3 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Women in architecture

Saturday 21 September 2024 Walking Tour and Wikipedia Edit-a-thon

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Kaikōura Dark Sky Sanctuary - creating a map

@Prosperosity Kia ora. I have another enquiry about a map. This morning I have created a draft Wikipedia article Draft:Kaikōura Dark Sky Sanctuary (It has just been formally accredited). I have also created a Wikidata item: [1] It would be great to add a map to the article, but I am still not sufficiently experienced in Open Street Map to do this without help.

Perhaps you can have a look at what might be needed, and if you think it should be possible for me to do this, please give me some pointers. This newspaper article shows a map of the sanctuary.[2]. As far as I can see, it is the entire Kaikōura District, less a small irregular shape shown in the illustration in the newspaper. See also the application document here:[3]. Apart from my general lack of experience in using OSM, I have a few questions:

  1. I see that there is a territorial boundary (Administrative Boundary in OSM) for Kaikōura District in Open Street map. Is there a way of producing a copy of this boundary that can be used for the map of the sanctuary, and can be edited to show the "take-out" for the town (and is that the most appropriate way to start) ? Being able to copy the existing district boundary would save a huge amount of time.
  2. What is the most practical way of tracing the "take-out" for the town ?
  3. Is it necessary to trace along the coastline ? I presume so, but am not sure.
  4. I would like to gain experience by doing some editing in OSM. Is this a suitable starting project, or is this one too tricky ?

Marshelec (talk) 02:45, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I think it might be possible if you create a way in OSM for the border around the town, split the Kaikoura District boundary way at those two points, then create a relation that's the new boundary and the remaining parts of the district, both labelled as "inner" for the relation. I've never tried this before, but in theory it'd work.
One thing is that you might not be able to see if the map's working or not if the page isn't a live Wikipedia page (i.e. after the draft has gone through).
It's beyond my experience (so I might recommend starting with something else), but I'm sure there are people out there who could help! Prosperosity (talk) 02:57, 13 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wayne Guppy - talk page

@Schwede66 Can you please have a look at this diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wayne_Guppy&curid=33405640&diff=1245898026&oldid=1245810266

It seems wrong that an IP editor has completely reverted a talk page comment. Even if you don't agree with something posted on a talk page, unless it is your own post, or is slanderous or otherwise illegal, then surely it should not be reverted ?? I wasn't quite sure what action to take ? Can you either action this, or recommend what I should do ? Thanks Marshelec (talk) 22:29, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hm. Not sure about that one, Marshelec. The IP says that they have no reliable sources. I'm not sure whether talk pages come under WP:BLP. If yes, then the statement must be removed. Maybe have a poke around for policy or guidance. Schwede66 22:38, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The IP uses both 2407:... and 49:... ranges (judging on similarity of edits, and they're both Vodafone mobile). They added that the mayor is right wing with one, and added a minor controversy with sources with the other. I removed the assertion he is right wing because it was unsourced, and the IP explained they don't have a suitable source on the talk page. The IP then removed their own talk page message. There's nothing problematic here if you accept this is one person using two different devices, or one device somehow connecting to the network in different ways, and they're obviously not trying to pretend they're different people.-Gadfium (talk) 01:04, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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This is what you want: User:Anomie/linkclassifier.js Schwede66 04:47, 15 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Macquarie Island

Noted your correct "Reworded/modified the claim about the uniqueness of the exposure above sea-level and added one citation. Another citation is probably required." I had noted this claim too and never got around to checking it in depth (so to speak). The Moho under Macquarie Island is 5–6 km as I recall while under Iceland 40-16 km due to sort of continental crust associated with the hot spot plume. Can I suggest to be even more pedantically correct you could phase it "only oceanic crust mid-ocean ridge, if you can find a suitable reference. Iceland does has hot spot contamination and the documented tendency for brief maturation of its basalts at holding reservoirs about 5 km deep but some seem to come very quickly up from Moho depths with minimal contamination so perhaps Icelandic geologists would disagree with the claims of Australian geologists, given say their recent hot sampling of the new Reykjanes fires. ChaseKiwi (talk) 13:07, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@ChaseKiwi Thanks for responding so promptly. I am on a subantarctic expedition cruise and we are anchored off Maquarie Island as I write this. I am keen to substantially improve the content about geography and geology in this article during my visit and while we make our way back to New Zealand. As and when you are available, I would greatly appreciate your feedback on any further content that I add._Marshelec (talk) 19:54, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So far all good. Doubt that I will ever see it for real. Seasons greetings. ChaseKiwi (talk) 22:12, 23 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Using cite Q and referencing pages

@Pigsonthewing Hi, I seek some advice about using cite Q please. In an article I am working on, it is convenient to use a cite Q template to form one of the "Sources cited", separately from the normal "References" where the inline cites appear. This works fine. My question is how best to deal with the inline requirement to cite the source and the page number. I tried using the Sfn template but it doesn't seem to work correctly with cite Q. An alternative is to change to using the cite Q inline, along with the Rp template to give the page number. What is the best approach ?_Marshelec (talk) 06:25, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please see Template talk:Cite Q#Citing pages and referencing bibliography. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 12:53, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I had already noted your issues at Macquarie Island. I have now rather than maintain reference style as I did with your Russ source changed to snf style solution for cite Q. You should change all those old references to sfn style however so article has one style. Otherwise revert to non Harvard style. ChaseKiwi (talk) 23:42, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Also, have a look at my GA articles e.g. serpent, I've been using Cite Q and sfn everywhere. The solution I found was to supply date and author name parameters to the Cite Q bibliography citations, so the Harvard templates pick it up automatically without having to use ref= everywhere. — Jon (talk) 01:47, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
User:Jons workaround duplicates data which shows one of the many imperfections of the wikidata concept as it can have different metadata constructs to those of the English wikipedia. ChaseKiwi (talk) 02:14, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Nothing is perfect. — Jon (talk) 06:39, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alps 2 Ocean Cycle Trail

I note there isn't an article for the Alps 2 Ocean Cycle Trail yet,[1] but if you start one, we could mention the very small Waitaki Valley wine region, which is nevertheless a proper geographical indication and probably should also have its own article. I stumbled upon the connection in an article in The Real Review about Valli wines, and their wine bar in Kurow which is a popular whistle-stop for cyclists on the trail.[2] Perhaps I'll make a start with stubbing out the wine region from New Zealand wine. — Jon (talk) 06:02, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Jonathanischoice_ Hmmm. I already have such a long list of "must-do" articles ! However, since you have suggested it, I will get underway. :) Marshelec (talk) 06:41, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonathanischoice Ah hah !! There is indeed an article already. See The_Alps_2_Ocean_Cycle_Trail. I will see what I can do to improve it. One point that needs review is why it has "The" in the title. I will aim to add an infobox and a map. I have already found that there is a full route mapped in OSM. See [4]._Marshelec (talk) 06:48, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jonathanischoice Have a look now. It now has an infobox and a map :). I am still wondering about the definite article in the title. I think it should be just "Alps 2 Ocean Cycle Trail", as per WP:DEFINITE. @Schwede66: am I right that the article title The Alps 2 Ocean Cycle Trail should not include "The" ? If so, I presume this would be a non-controversial move ?. Marshelec (talk) 07:25, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would just move it and ask questions later 😜 Meanwhile, Waitaki Valley wine region now exists. — Jon (talk) 08:01, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I've moved it. Schwede66 09:37, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ "Alps 2 Ocean Cycle Trail". Great Rides of New Zealand. Waitaki District Council, Mackenzie District Council. Retrieved 16 January 2025.
  2. ^ Wong, Stephen (15 January 2025). "An update on Valli and the Waitaki". The Real Review. Retrieved 16 January 2025.