User talk:LeGabrie

Barnstar with belated welcoming

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		For your outstanding work on Alodia which has brought the article from sketchy & unreferenced to readable & scholarly in 2017. Welcome back to Wikipedia and good luck with your efforts to delve into East African history. groupuscule (talk) 10:35, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you mister! While I still have plans on extending that entry, do you think it would already qualify for a "Featured Article"? LeGabrie (talk) 16:47, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It's headed that way. I'm no expert, but one way to get ready for "Featured Article" review is first asking for comments from other editors, maybe from interested Wikiprojects (Africa, History? you can post comments on their talk pages), and also from Wikipedia:Peer review. ~ groupuscule (talk) 22:04, 14 May 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey, I requested a Peer Review plus I made a section on the African portal, but absolutely nothing is happenening. Do you know why?LeGabrie (talk) 18:05, 22 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sometimes it just takes a while for someone to find it, especially in narrow topic interests. I'm happy to take a look, if you'd like. It appears to be written well at a glance, but without some source scans, I won't be able to vouch for any of the contents. Were you looking to shoot for FA status? It's grueling, but if so, I could help prep you for that. And if you might be interested, I'm also looking for feedback on an African art museum article: Wikipedia:Peer review/National Museum of African Art/archive1. czar 02:22, 22 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Hey. Sure, I would be glad if you could take a look. For now, I would like to have it a good article, because I still have to add some chapters, which I will do in some months. Concerning the sourcse just tell me for which statements you would like to see one. I can back most of it up (Still have to eliminate some original research though). I am not sure if I can help with your article, because I have never reviewed one and I am also pretty ignorant of the whole process. I can take a look though, just as trade-off.LeGabrie (talk) 15:44, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I've made a few comments at the peer review and can go more in depth once you've made basic fixes, incorporated your extra sources, removed original conclusions not taken from the sources, and reviewed against the GA criteria. Then you can nominate it for a GA review and I (or someone else) can pick it up. Feel free to take a look at mine or other articles if you have time, but no pressure. And re: ignorance, while it's helpful to be familiar with Wikipedia's manual of style, most reviews are done against some limited set of criteria that are easy to learn in a single sitting. czar 22:03, 31 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Ok great, I will continue my work on the entry during the next few weeks.LeGabrie (talk) 13:59, 9 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Please stop Canvassing (Medri Bahri)

It appears that you have been canvassing—leaving messages on a biased choice of users' talk pages to notify them of an ongoing community decision, debate, or vote—in order to influence Medri Bahri. While friendly notices are allowed, they should be limited and nonpartisan in distribution and should reflect a neutral point of view. Please do not post notices which are indiscriminately cross-posted, which espouse a certain point of view or side of a debate, or which are selectively sent only to those who are believed to hold the same opinion as you. Remember to respect Wikipedia's principle of consensus-building by allowing decisions to reflect the prevailing opinion among the community at large. Thank you. Please stop canvassing for Medri Bahri Uknowofwiki (talk) 00:57, 21 February 2018 (UTC) • contribs)[reply]

You can ignore the above. --NeilN ^talk to me 00:19, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I stand by Warning to LeGabrie about his Canvassing Violation per WP:Canvass. Uknowofwiki (talk) 01:22, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Pathetic. LeGabrie (talk) 11:42, 21 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion in the RfC

Please discuss in the RfC on the Medri Bahri Talk page before making anymore edits to the Dates of the article. Uknowofwiki (talk) 22:03, 25 February 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Daju kingdom

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Daju kingdom you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 21:21, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Several comments and suggestions on the review page for you to consider. It is looking good so far. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:11, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: Thanks mate. Just fixed the stuff as by your proposals.LeGabrie (talk) 22:31, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

That was swift. Thanks. A nicely put together article. One of my easier assessments. I will give it another look over in the morning, but it seems solid so far. Gog the Mild (talk) 22:39, 21 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

All done. Good work. Congratulations. An educational one to assess. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:05, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: Well, that was easy and quick. Motivates me to get more articles ready for a GA-nomination. Thank you very much for your time and effort! LeGabrie (talk) 11:00, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article Daju kingdom you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Daju kingdom for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 10:21, 22 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Sultanate of Dahlak

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Sultanate of Dahlak you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 16:21, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article Sultanate of Dahlak you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Sultanate of Dahlak for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 21:41, 23 March 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I have just started to look at this for DYK? and hit a problem! "today a popular destination for divers" is not in the article. Possibly you could add this as a sentence at the end of "Demise"? So long as you can reliably cite it. Or change the hook to leave this out? Gog the Mild (talk) 11:10, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Gog the Mild I took that part from the Dahlak archipelago entry. Is it required that the DYK is based just on one entry? Including the diving-thing in the entry for the Dahlak sultanate would be out of place. LeGabrie (talk) 11:34, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I had to check that. Unfortunately, no. From the "rules": "The hook fact(s) must be stated in the article, and must be immediately followed by an inline citation to a reliable source" Gog the Mild (talk) 12:08, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Gog the Mild But technically speaking, our hook could be applied to both the Dahlak sultanate as well as the Dahlak archipelago, right? LeGabrie (talk) 12:31, 5 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

User:Gog the Mild Reworked it. LeGabrie (talk) 17:27, 7 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

tIP

Authorityofwikipedia/unknwnwiki is a sock of otakrem [1] i suggest opening sockpuppet case so he can be banned. 201.1.194.105 (talk) 16:56, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a proof for that?LeGabrie (talk) 17:08, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

usually they tag authors in the edit summaries for ex. [2] Alexander butavich is what caught my attention [3] user:crumpplint sock of otakrem does the same author tag but mentions james bruce. if u keep looking u might find more things. 188.26.145.90 (talk) 17:48, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Let me add writing similarities, Otakrem/AuthorityofWiki like to bold quotes in talk page discussion see here, [4] ..... [5] 188.26.145.90 (talk) 18:26, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In the discussions I've had with Authority so far he didn't write bold quotes a single time. That Bulatovich-thing is suspicious though. If you can provide me two, three more of such examples I can open a sockpuppet case. LeGabrie (talk) 18:37, 1 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Otakrem here uses James Bruce [6] Unknownwiki does the same [7] They are both very protective of eritrea and medri bahri. 105.158.46.208 (talk) 13:42, 6 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

To the person using these IP addresses - see WP:SCRUTINY. As you violating our sock puppetry policy any further posts by you should just be reverted. --NeilN ^talk to me 14:47, 23 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Sultanate of Dahlak

On 24 April 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Sultanate of Dahlak, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Eritrean Dahlak Archipelago once housed a thriving trading kingdom, the Dahlak sultanate? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Sultanate of Dahlak. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Sultanate of Dahlak), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 12:02, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kingdom Of Axum

LeGabrie Let me Ask are you willing to dialogue? because I think what you are doing to the Kingdom of Axum page by using that image which is not credible is very disrespectful to Ethiopian and Eritrean people by displaying an image of a supposedly Axumite king which are Ethiopian or Eritrean with blonde hair when its clearly just a work of fiction by Europeans in the 20th century and who have never even been to Ethiopia or Axumite terriory, but I will allow you to say why you insist in using that clearly Europeanised image when it has no legitimacy on being on that page and then Il explain why it is problematic and why it should be removed. Wizeone2 (talk) 22:36, 24 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Wizeone2 Can your brain still not comprehend that the original painting from the 8th century shows him as blonde-haired as well? LeGabrie (talk) 10:21, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

LeGabrie Be honest now, you even admitted before that it could be a turban, not blonde hair. You doubted if it was blonde hair yourself, because it's not. And my question is if you are so insisting of using this 'historical source' despite no evidence to provide the fact that the Axumite king came into contact with them, could you not display the 8th century image instead of the 20th century copy? as that is the authentic representation of this historic source, and not a redrawn and repainted copy. Plus there's no relevance for the image on the page, it doesn't originate from the kingdom of Axum itself like all of the images on it's page does and it is random. Wizeone2 (talk) 16:03, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Wizeone2 "Be honest now, you even admitted before that it could be a turban, not blonde hair. You doubted if it was blonde hair yourself, because it's not"

There is no reason to believe that the painting is even supposed to be a realistic representation of an Aksumite king. Just his crown looks very fantastic already. Still an important and unique source.

"could you not display the 8th century image instead of the 20th century copy?"

No, because of copyright. I would gladly use the original, restored painting myself, but unless the original photographer uploads it on Wiki himself we are not allowed to use it.

"And my question is if you are so insisting of using this 'historical source' despite no evidence to provide the fact that the Axumite king came into contact with them"

The Umayyads were very certainly in contact with Aksum, see Timothy Power's "The Red Sea from Byzantium to the Caliphate: AD 500-1000".

"Plus there's no relevance for the image on the page"

Right, a contemporary painting depicting the king of Aksum has no relevance for the kingdom of Aksum. LeGabrie (talk) 16:30, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

LeGabrie But the image claims to be a copy of the King who came into contact with Muhammed about the Refugee of his Sahaba, the Umayyad's and the Painting is from the 8th Century and this is many centuries after that King, So no they wouldn't know what he looked like, even if they were in contact with the Kingdom of Axum, Secondly the Image does not seam to be an Accurate representation of the original, Do you not understand it shares more confusion and problems more than anything good as it shows an Ethiopian King as a White man with Blonde hair which we know is absurd but this is what early 20th century Europeans had on their agenda and were doing doing all over Africa and there is no evidence to support the absurdity of what the copy shows, and it has no relevance because it doesn't even come from Axum , doesn't seem to be an accurate, and is not considered as evidence of an Ethiopian king by those who study Ethiopian History. Wizeone2 (talk) 23:00, 25 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Wizeone2 Everything relevant has been said. Don't delete the image again. LeGabrie (talk) 10:31, 26 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

LeGabrie Blonde haired White man drawn in the 1907 by a European being shown as an representation an Ethiopian Negus and Wikipedia finds this acceptable and not as whitewashing of history and history revisionism, how pathetic. Wizeone2 (talk) 22:30, 27 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Alodia

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Alodia you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 21:40, 4 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. I have made a few preliminary comments on the GA review page. I note that you are still tweaking the article. Could you ping me when you think it is stable and I will go through it properly. I will mark it as on hold meanwhile. Thanks. Gog the Mild (talk) 12:05, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Copy edit of Alodia

I have marked the copy edit request as complete at GOCE. It's not standard practice for a copy edit to be done while the requester is still editing the article, but it wasn't a problem working around you. Blackmane (talk) 13:59, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Blackmane Ok thank you. Any last thoughts? For example do you think that the article is comprehensible for someone who doesn't know anything about the topic? LeGabrie (talk) 14:19, 18 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

I think it does alright. Given that there isn't a huge amount of archaeological study of this relatively obscure kingdom, the article does a sensible job of giving a taste of it. Any more risks wandering down the path of original research or synthesis. Blackmane (talk) 10:32, 19 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hard earned and deserved

		The Africa Award
		It is my great pleasure to bestow a small token of appreciation for the endless work you have put into African related articles and you are hereby decorated with this Africa Award. You have made Wikipedia a better informed place - thank you. Presented by Gog the Mild (talk) 17:23, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much. There is still more to come. LeGabrie (talk) 17:33, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Nice! czar 17:35, 20 May 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Kingdom of Fazughli

Hi there, I'm pleased to inform you that I've begun reviewing the article Kingdom of Fazughli you nominated for GA-status according to the criteria. This process may take up to 7 days. Feel free to contact me with any questions or comments you might have during this period. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 13:01, 23 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The article Kingdom of Fazughli you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Kingdom of Fazughli for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 15:21, 24 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you

Thank you very much that you didn't cancel my edits. I didn't added any new information. I have received this information since I was in school, when I was a child. I am actually Sudanese and I will correct any misinformation or insufficient information about my country. Kingston, CA (talk) 16:11, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Kingston, CA I am already working on reverting your edit. It provides no new relevant information except for the fact that Sudan's ancient history is interwoven with that of Egypt. The part where you elaborate the Anglo-Egyptian condominium is also too much detail for a lede. LeGabrie (talk) 16:24, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@LeGabrie Your edit are good but they do not adequately over my country's history regarding the history of Sudan and Egypt. This is due to the kingdoms and old actients. That was thriving along the Nile near Egypt. Kingston, CA (talk) 16:38, 16 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Kush

Hi LeGabrie! Regarding your edit [8] and your edit summary "The inscription of Darius also doesn't mention any conquest"... Actually, the Achaemenid inscriptions do mention Kush many times as an Achaemenid territory [9]. For example the DNa inscription of Darius mentions Kūšīyā (𐎤𐎢𐏁𐎡𐎹𐎠, pronounced Kushiya) in Line 30 [10] among the territories being "ruled over", translated as "Nubia" in the case of Lecoq. पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 17:45, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Mentioning it as part of the Achaemenid territory is different from mentioning it being conquered. Anyway, the Achaemenids didn't extend further south than the second Nile cataract, and even that far north archaeological evidence for their presence is very slim. LeGabrie (talk) 17:53, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Did you have a particular issue with the relief of a Kushan soldier from the tomb of Xerxes I as an illustration for the Achaemenid occupation? पाटलिपुत्र (talk) 18:46, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The image itself is ok, but we already have a, in my opinion more expressive and spectacular, Persian relief depicting Kushites ("Kushite delegation on a Persian relief from the Apadana palace (c. 500 BC)". No need to have two Persian reliefs. LeGabrie (talk) 20:43, 21 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Please use Preview button and leave Edit summary

On articles, including that of Alodia, could you please use the WP:PREVIEW button and leave an WP:EDITSUMMARY? Otherwise it is impossible to figure out what's been edited without going through them one by one, while cluttering up the page with an extremely excessive amount of edits. This is a really poor way of editing articles and makes verification very difficult.

You could simply use the Show Preview button and then publish once you have a substantial amount of content. DA1 (talk) 02:04, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

The reason why I make many small edits is because my computer sometimes crashes. Really not keen to make a very long edit just to loose everything I've written because of a crash. I can be more generous with my edit summaries though. LeGabrie (talk) 10:05, 22 October 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Kingdom of al-Abwab

The article Kingdom of al-Abwab you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Kingdom of al-Abwab for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of LeGabrie -- LeGabrie (talk) 20:21, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

For perserverence

		The Good Article Barnstar
		Awarded for the continuing pursuit of excellence in African history. You have now generated half of the pre-20th century African history good articles. Impressive. Please continue to educate the world on the history of the continent. Gog the Mild (talk) 20:26, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild Thanks! I also gotta give you props for reviewing my articles that fast, some people wait damn months for their GA getting reviewed. Would you like me to return the favour somehow?

Well barnstars are always nice, but on a practical level I have GANs which have indeed been waiting a while, so if you feel up to it an assessment of say Battle of Winchelsea would be appreciated. But if you're too busy or not feeling up to it, then don't worry. Just keep on producing those African history articles.

By the way, don't forget to answer here LeGabrie (talk) 22:02, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Answered.

Gog the Mild (talk) 23:01, 2 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Battle of Winchelsea

Hi LeGabrie. Many thanks for the drama free assessment. When you next have a GAN up don't hesitate to ping me. Gog the Mild (talk) 16:25, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: Sure. I will possibly write one more African-related article and then I plan to take care of a really precarious one. LeGabrie (talk) 16:57, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. Brave editor. That would be a challenge. I wouldn't even want to think about reliable sources. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:01, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: As long as one sticks to authorities of secular Islamic studies one should be fine. One thing, however, is for sure: it will be a crap ton of work (I expect it to take at least as long as Alodia, i.e. hundreds of hours) and will trigger lots of vandalism and heated discussions. Looking forward to the latter though, it's something I am missing when working on obscure African kingdoms. LeGabrie (talk) 17:10, 5 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Gog the Mild: This time a bit of architecture/archaeology, if you want: Throne Hall of Dongola LeGabrie (talk) 16:13, 12 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Your GA nomination of Throne Hall of Dongola

The article Throne Hall of Dongola you nominated as a good article has passed ; see Talk:Throne Hall of Dongola for comments about the article. Well done! If the article has not already been on the main page as an "In the news" or "Did you know" item, you can nominate it to appear in Did you know. Message delivered by Legobot, on behalf of Gog the Mild -- Gog the Mild (talk) 22:21, 15 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hi

I have uploaded the image (here). Cheers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nabataeus (talk • contribs) 14:23, 25 November 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Alodia

Concerning the clarification tag: the Beja language is a Cushitic language. Do you mean to say: "In the eastern territories lived the Beja, who spoke their own Cushitic language, as did the Arabs and the Semitic Tigre."? - which does make sense. If so, please feel free to fix it. I'm going to do a final check and will let you know when it's completed. Twofingered Typist (talk)

@Twofingered Typist: I will rephrase it. LeGabrie (talk) 17:09, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello:

The copy edit you requested from the Guild of Copy Editors of the article Alodia has been completed.

Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns.

Best of luck with the FAN.

Regards,

Twofingered Typist (talk) 20:56, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for your work. LeGabrie (talk) 21:03, 2 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Throne Hall of Dongola

On 12 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Throne Hall of Dongola, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the Throne Hall of Dongola (pictured) is the oldest preserved mosque in Sudan? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Throne Hall of Dongola. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Throne Hall of Dongola), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

— Maile (talk) 12:04, 12 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

DYK for Kingdom of al-Abwab

On 20 December 2018, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kingdom of al-Abwab, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that as an ally of the Mamluk Sultanate, the Kingdom of al-Abwab provided an Assassin to watch over the Mamluk puppet king in Dongola? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kingdom of al-Abwab. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Kingdom of al-Abwab), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Alex Shih (talk) 00:01, 20 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

	Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
	Hi LeGabrie, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your help and thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia,    –Davey2010 ^Merry Christmas / Happy New Year 14:23, 25 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Better source map

Originally I had misinterpreted this map (MedievalEthiopia.png) as showing the various peoples of the Showa sultanate upon further analyzation and reading the various sources used on this article (Citations 1-5) I had chosen to drastically fix the map. thank you for your criticism. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aldan-2 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

@Aldan-2: I asked you to provide the source for your map so we have confirmation that your map is not original research or, even worse, just some random stains. Please refrain from re-adding it unless this academic source is provided. LeGabrie (talk) 10:37, 30 December 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Dont mistake the name Shewa for modern Shewa province. Look at these sources [11] page 15 [12] page 21 [13] Page 56 Lokiszm7 (talk) 19:52, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@Lokiszm7:1) Stop edit-warring. 2) Read Bouanga. 3) Provide a trustworthy source with an alternative map. LeGabrie (talk) 21:47, 10 January 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism

Look I get you point calling us Nubian yes we have intermixed with nubians and I clearly stated that in the page in origin and lineage However the shagiya originally came to sudan as full arabs I do not consider myself arab but afro arab. So can you please stop editing this incorrectly. Ahmed ibn Khalid (talk) 22:04, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

@User:Ahmed ibn Khalid Read Spaulding's "The Old Shaiqi Language in Historical Perspective" and "The Chronology of Sudanese Arabic Genealogical Tradition", both available online. Continuing your edit-warring wasn't really smart btw, now you will most likely be banned yet again. LeGabrie (talk) 22:49, 10 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Alodia scheduled for TFA

This is to let you know that the Alodia article has been scheduled as today's featured article for April 25, 2019. Please check the article needs no amendments. If you're interested in editing the main page text, you're welcome to do so at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/April 25, 2019, but note that a coordinator will trim the lead to around 1000 characters anyway, so you aren't obliged to do so. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 14:48, 6 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Precious

precolonial African history

Thank you for quality articles such as Alodia, Kingdom of Fazughli and Throne Hall of Dongola, pursuing your mission to "popularize obscure precolonial African history", for service from 2015, including map making, - you are an awesome Wikipedian!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:34, 25 April 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A year ago, you were recipient no. 2191 of Precious, a prize of QAI! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:16, 25 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Makuria

Hello LeGabrie! I'm translating your article about Makuria to Portuguese and I saw that some paragraphs don't have sources. Would you mind helping me provide the necessary sources? I helped with some points in the article, maybe you would like to check. Cheers!--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 06:46, 19 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk · contribs) Thanks for translating. I haven't finished the rework of the Makuria article yet, that's why there are still many old, unsourced paragraphs. I will continue to rework it (I am currently working on the role of islam as well as the unification with nobatia), but as of now the speed with which I can do so is limited. Regards, LeGabrie (talk) 01:03, 20 March 2019 (UTC)[reply]

A paper on Nubia?

Hi LeGabrie. I have come across a paper on "The Monasteries and Monks of Nubia" by Artur Obluski and thought of you. If you would like a pdf of it, let me know. Gog the Mild (talk) 10:29, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) Funny thing: i just started the computer to download that very book, together with a few other papers on Nubia. Looking foward to include content from them in the Makuria article. LeGabrie (talk) 11:33, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

That one seems to be in great shape. I look forward to seeing it as a GA. Gog the Mild (talk) 11:38, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

Gog the Mild (talk · contribs) The first look is deceiving, I still have a lot of work to do :) LeGabrie (talk) 11:59, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

I am sure that it will get your usual thorough treatment. Gog the Mild (talk) 14:27, 19 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

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	Just came across your work at History of Sudan. Great work on that article!! Calliopejen1 (talk) 23:21, 12 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! LeGabrie (talk) 00:33, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello LeGabrie! How are you doing? I hope you are fine and safe. I continued translation Makuria and I had a problem with a name mentioned in the paragraph "After a period of peace, King..." It uses Karanbas in the beginning, but ends using Keranbes. Which one is correct? Both?--Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk) 06:44, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Renato de carvalho ferreira (talk · contribs) Thank you, I am fine. The traditional Arabic transliteration is Karanbas, while a Greek inscription called him Kudanbes. Since the Greek inscription was most likely executed by a Nubian it would be more accurate to go with Kudanbes :) LeGabrie (talk) 07:35, 23 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Hello, LeGabrie! May I ask for your assistance regarding recent edits by an anon on the articles of the Ja'alin tribe and Shaigiya tribe? Both articles have been repeatedly edited by various anon and sockpuppet accounts over years, changing the tribes' origins. These were generally simple vandals. However, a new anon has now begun editing the articles and also insists that both tribes are ethnic Arabs. Unlike the other anons, they actually provide sources in order to support their view. However, I believe that their sources are either colonial-era-nonsense or only talk about the tribes as Arabs in regards to self-view and identity, not ethnic origin. Seeing as you are one of the most proficient editors relating to ancient Sudanese history, I want to ask for your view on the matter. Applodion (talk) 17:38, 9 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

@Applodion: Hey Applodion, thx for letting me know. He clearly has an agenda, i.e. presenting the various Sudanese tribes as "Arabs". See also how he edited the page of Danagla (who traditionally considered themselves as part of the Ja'alin group), claiming that they are of "mostly Arab descent" although parts of them are literally still speaking Nubian to this day and that 19th century sources confirm that the overwhelming majority of them spoke Dongolawi only (Waddington & Hanburry (1822): "Journal of a Visit to Some Parts of Ethiopia" or Rüppel (1829): "Reise in Nubien, Kordofan und dem peträischen Arabien"). Most authors, and in fact many Danagla themselves, agree that they are Nubian and Nubian only. He apparently did the same with the Ababda people page, claiming that the tons of 19th-century travelogues mentioning the pre-Arabic Ababda language are "misconceptions" lol). The thing with the Shaqiya and Ja'alin is, however, that they are more Arabized than the Danagla, speaking overwhelmingly Arab by the 19th century. There are also more than enough authors, be they from the 19th century or the 21st century, simply agreeing with their tribal claims of a supposed Arab descent, so he has more than enough literature to cherry-pick from. Literature dealing with their pre-Arabic language is rare, like for example Jay Spaulding's "The Old Shaiqi Language in Historical Perspective" (https://www.jstor.org/stable/3171817). Concerning the pre-Arabic language of some Ja'alin tribes I once posted something on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/Sudan/comments/iozxyy/the_nubians_of_the_5th_cataract_dar_berber_dar/ . Let me know if you have further questions. LeGabrie (talk) 17:20, 10 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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Hi, At WP:ANI I was required to restore the edit summary at 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine that I had previously removed. Instead, I hope you can accept my apology for writing something that (quite reasonably) offended you. Zero^talk 15:22, 28 December 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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