Zombie Hunter Smurf (talk) 17:11, 29 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]
In regards to your edits to Bitter Gold Hearts, I probably wasn't clear when I reverted your first edit. What I meant is that for an article about a work of fiction, in this case a fictional novel, the only reference for that work is the work itself, and therefore, we don't actively put references to the work itself because they become superfluous and they clutter the article.
To put it more simply, you don't reference a book to itself, it's just standard policy. If you want to read more, check out: Wikipedia:These are not original research#Works of fiction. Thanks, Runch (talk) 18:00, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Please stop adding bogus "references" and "plot" tags to articles about works of fiction. They don't help. Xanthoxyl < 09:31, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- It has already been explained to you, above, that "references" tags are not used on fiction articles unless the article contains non-trivial assertions on matters of fact of which the provenance is uncertain. If you cannot read and understand the policy then you will have to stop until you do, or contribute to the Wikipedia in your own language. Xanthoxyl < 12:45, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- There is nothing wrong with adding a "citation needed" tag to surprising or debatable claims. However, the "plot" tag is only used when the plot summary is huge and unhelpful. Xanthoxyl < 12:54, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Okay, but bibliographical info and story info is not subject to the need for specific references unless there is room of debate about what is correct. If I say that Return of the King is the third book in The Lord of the Rings, it doesn't need a citation unless it is a controversial statement, because the source of the information should be obvious. Xanthoxyl < 12:58, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- Thank you for taking the time to respond. Have fun. Xanthoxyl < 13:04, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
- If you are doubtful about the existence of a particular book, it should be present on Amazon or in a bookseller's catalogue, or in a library catalogue. Google the title and author. However, on Wikipedia, it is rare for an article on a book to be fake. Phony biographies are more common.
- You can continue replying here if you wish. Xanthoxyl < 13:10, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi there again. I'm afraid that the three taggings made to Convergence (novel), Core (novel) and Counter-Clock World aren't correct. Can you identify the surprising non-bibliographical factual claims that need support? Xanthoxyl < 14:19, 17 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
The date syntax is: {{Unreferenced|any other arguments|date=May 2010}}, but if you leave the date off it will be added by a WP:BOT. Rich Farmbrough, 00:00, 25 May 2010 (UTC).[reply]
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