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Perhaps break up the template by period?

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The template, like the list of massacres of Jews, is very large. Would it be easier to use if it were broken down by time period, in alternating color bands? The first band could be from 1 through 1000 CE, perhaps, the second band from 1001 through 1600, the third band from 1601 through 1900, and then by decade after 1901, with a single band for the Holocaust? I think this could be done fairly easily by using group1, group2, etc. See Template:Navbox for additional information. If others are interested, I can draft a sandbox copy of what I'm proposing. — Malik Shabazz ^Talk/_Stalk 02:25, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-24T02:25:00.000Z","author":"Malik Shabazz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Malik_Shabazz-2017-08-24T02:25:00.000Z-Perhaps_break_up_the_template_by_period?","replies":[]}}-->

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Original research?

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Where do you get these names from? Certainly not from the English Wikipedia: **[[Międzyrzec Podlaski Ghetto|Mezeritz D'Lita massacre]]. "Mezeritz D'Lita" is not mentioned in our Międzyrzec Podlaski Ghetto article even once. Please explain. What is the purpose of changing real placenames into their Yiddish equivalents?
It looks to me like this whole template is being turned by User:Gruzinim (296 edits) into a sort of political arm-wrestling, with gross exaggerations dressed up as "massacres of Jews" such as the 2015 Copenhagen shootings where a single Jewish security man (among its two victims including a non-Jewish filmmaker) was shot in a firefight by a Dutchman. Poeticbent talk 14:16, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-26T14:16:00.000Z","author":"Poeticbent","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Poeticbent-2017-08-26T14:16:00.000Z-Original_research?","replies":[]}}-->

Yeah, I kind of regretted the "Massacre" title, it should have been titled "Pogroms targeting" Jews. As far as the Yiddish equivalent, I guess there is no real purpose other than to respect what the people who were killed called it. Usually they had their own name for the Shtetls or Towns, so it made more sense to call it by that name then by whatever it's called today. It was a work in progress, I will try to remove any that wouldn't fit. I'm definitely not trying to push an agenda, the main purpose was to sort through the pogroms/massacres that don't have specific Wikipedia pages for them. Gruzinim (talk) 21:24, 26 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-08-26T21:24:00.000Z","author":"Gruzinim","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gruzinim-2017-08-26T21:24:00.000Z-Original_research?","replies":[]}}-->

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21st century section

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Since when is an antisemitic hate crime the same as a massacre or a pogrom? A massacre should have at least four people dead to qualify. And it's not like most of these incidents were pogroms either. The Monsey Hanukkah stabbing, Poway synagogue shooting, and Seattle Jewish Federation shooting all had only one fatality and only one perpetrator. These were hate crimes and not massacres or pogroms, and would best fit into a category like "Antisemitic attacks and Incidents in the 21st century" or something along those lines. Somebody even put the Colleyville synagogue hostage crisis even though not a single Jew died (or even probably injured). I had to revert that edit immediately.

Hate crimes are something different than pogroms. If we include every antisemitic event, we would end up including material like the Goulston Street graffito. Dunutubble (talk) 17:28, 18 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-01-18T17:28:00.000Z","author":"Dunutubble","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dunutubble-2022-01-18T17:28:00.000Z-21st_century_section","replies":[]}}-->

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More needed

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Can someone please add more such as 2023 Djerba synagogue shooting, and as well as Siege of Banu Qurayza and events from Antisemitism during the Israel–Hamas war. This needs to be updated to recent events as well as not enough inclusion of pogroms against Mizrahi jews. I also have a possible source from pogroms against Ethiopian Jews [1]https://lilith.org/articles/pogroms-in-ethiopia/. I apologize if I do not appear proficient in Wikipedia, because I am not proficient. Also Fajja bus attacks and Damascus affair. Sol Hachuel's execution perhaps as well 74.71.4.108 (talk) 22:37, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240516223700","author":"74.71.4.108","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-74.71.4.108-20240516223700-More_needed","replies":[]}}-->