Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Yugoslavia/Archive 1
Minor correctionIn the last paragraph of the introduction, please correct the punctuation: Where it reads (...) On 4 February 2003. It was renamed to the "State Union of Serbia and Montenegro", (...) please correct to (...) On 4 February 2003, it was renamed to the "State Union of Serbia and Montenegro", (...) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wxyz1234 (talk • contribs) 19:40, 30 May 2008 (UTC) ShortcutUm, the shortcut WP:FY would be interpreted by most people as something quite unrelated 8-) – or is the ambiguity intended? Duja 07:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
Add Bulgaria and make this WikiProject South Slavic countries?Greetings! I'm pleased to see there's now a WikiProject on former Yugoslavia. Currently, Bulgaria doesn't have its own WikiProject and it would be quite difficult to gather people and start a separate one at this point, so I thought it might be a good idea to widen the outlook of this project to include my mother country and make it "WikiProject South Slavic countries" (as Bulgaria is the only South Slavic country not to have been part of Yugoslavia) or something like that. What do you think about it? → Тодор Божинов / Todor Bozhinov → 12:41, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
My 2 cents: given the turbulent history of former Jugo, I think it's a darn good idea to have this wikiproj to help people get past ugly things like differences and nationalism and focus on what the former Jugo republics have in common. So I'm strongly against expanding this article to include other Slavic countries thereby making this wikiproj South Slavic Countries. However, I think having a separate wikiproj South Slavic countries is also an awesome idea. It would be a great place for south Slavs to combine knowledge and whatnot, and we'd probably all be surprised by just how much we have in common. But only as a separate project.
Stop The Lies 07:33, 10 December 2006 (UTC)Stop_The_Lies
Project page designI'm not a fan of Creeping featurism, but I touched the bottom two tables to look a bit more vivid. With all due credits to the author's effort (Dijxtra?) the project page design now looks like the Former Yugoslavia in mid-90s – bleach and exhausted :-(. If you agree, I'd also edit the other tables (preserving the "Edit" links in headings as a must).
set MyColor="#E0E0FF" ... ...bgcolor={{MyColor}}... There. I think it's a bit nicer. I decided not to overuse colors, just to slightly improve the layout. Please test whether Edit links work as you intended – I tried to follow the principle. Duja 15:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Userbox designHere I propose new design for the userbox. The thing is: I like the "YU" thingy, but some people might find it overly nostalgic. Now, in real life I just don't associate with people which have problems like that, but on Wikipedia every help we can get is good, in my oppinion. I think that "WPFY" is more neutral and should replace "YU". But, if you guys think I exaggerate, I'll drop the proposal :-) --Dijxtra 18:12, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
Links to separate language editionsI think those should be added to the project's main page: http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glavna_stranica_/_%D0%93%D0%BB%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8%D1%86%D0%B0, http://bs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Po%C4%8Detna_strana, http://hr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glavna_stranica, http://mk.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D1%81%D1%82%D1%80%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B0 and http://sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glavna_stran. (I could only find those, maybe more apply?) -Missmarple 12:48, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
Voting for article improvement drive articlesOK, we better figure out how to pick 3 articles we'll colaborate on. We can put '+' by the name of the article, and the article with most pluses on Sunday gets elected? What do you think? --Dijxtra 10:12, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
Enemy offensivesI think there are already articles for some (most?) of them, like Operation Schwarz and Fall Weiss (1943). Zocky | picture popups 13:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
I think we should put all "enemy offensives" under more specific and neutral names, and use both German operation names (Weiss, Schwarz...) and "enemy offensives" only once we have enough material to warrant separate articles for the operations of each side. I think the names should be:
Plus any other redirects, especially from German codenames. Zocky | picture popups 19:24, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Oh, http://www.bosnjaci.net/aktuelnosti.php?polje=historija&id=193 is not a very good source for citations, but it offers a useful overview. Zocky | picture popups 19:27, 7 March 2006 (UTC) We could help out by fixing the links to, for example, Serbian. There are probably more that apply... --Missmarple 09:31, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Getting started with AIDShall we pick just one article from each AID category and proclaim them winners so we can start working on those? And as new candidates cristalize, we can add those to? I mean, we can start with just 1, 1, 1 winners, and then later make it 3, 2, 1, so we don't have to wait now, eh? --Dijxtra 18:48, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Admin workWe do have some admins here, right? Can somebody move Barbarez to Sergej Barbarez? I just don't feel like listing it on requested moves page and going through discussion as this is plain obvious. --Dijxtra 14:47, 12 March 2006 (UTC) A newcomerFinally the music that I like too. All of my friends here listen Svetlana Ražnatović, Severina and the new-style national music. I don't oppose them, but it's just not my taste (like Bijelo dugme). How do I join this project? --HolyRomanEmperor 20:43, 16 March 2006 (UTC) Welcome! You can join this project by clicking the 'edit' link besides the 'Members of WPFY' header and signing yourself. You can do this by clicking the third-from-right button below the edit box). I would also like to say that this project is open for all people, even those who listen to Severina :) --Missmarple 21:13, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
Svakoga dana u svakom pogledu sve više napredujemoOk, now that I got your attention, I need some info for the article Stjepan Filipović. First of all, does anyone know the date of his death? Second of all, the illustration there (Image:Stjepanfilipovic.jpg) is from 1942, apparently published in a newspaper. So, my best guess, it's public domain, since there was no state to uphold copyright at the time and nobody claims ownership now. Any other thoughts on that? --dcabrilo 07:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
Public domain resourcesI started a Wikiproject for using the Library of Congress Country Studies. These are public domain documents on various countries. I started the project to coordinate there use here. Please take a look at the subpage on the former Yugoslavia. This is an old study done before the break up, but I think much of the information would be useful. If anyone knows what would be useful, or would like to help import the texts, your help would be appreciated.--Bkwillwm 07:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC) WikiProject BelgradeI can't attract contributors to my WikiProject, so I'm gooing to have to advertise it. Is it OK here? Wikipedia:WikiProject Belgrade --HolyRomanEmperor 15:01, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Need some helpGuys, since we've not updated the article improvement drive page for a bit, let me get your attention here. BTW we do need to update it, but it does take input from all of us. Anyhow, I started Battle of Dražgoše today, as well as Kurentovanje. I just heard about Kurentovanje today, and googled for information, but I bet Slovenes here could help out improve that article. It's a rather interesting topic, imho. Pozdrav svima! --dcabrilo 07:19, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
Letters lj, nj and džHello everyone. As you all know, we got used to writing letters lj, nj and dž in Serbo-Croatian as two characters, so lj becomes _l_j_ (лј instead of љ). But, they in fact exist in unicode as lj, nj and dž (one stroke at the keyboard). Would it be smart at all to start using these characters in ex-Yu related articles? Perhaps in more technical stuff, like alphabet on language articles? Say what you think. I could help people who use Linux to get started with these characters, but I'm not sure about Windows. P.S. If I am not mistaken, Slovenian doesn't "recognize" lj, nj and dž as one character?--dcabrilo 05:01, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
Jebiga :) Still, it's probably a good piece of info to add to some of the articles. --dcabrilo 05:40, 7 May 2006 (UTC) Can people here please take a look at: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/El_kondor_pada and give their comment. Thanks! --dcabrilo 19:59, 8 May 2006 (UTC) New articlesI think that we should have more articles about historical states and provinces that existed in the territory of Former Yugoslavia. I will list here links to some articles that should be written. Currently, most of these links are redirects, but if anybody want to write real articles about these subjects, he can start them here. Also, the other people could to add links to more possible articles that should be written. Here is the list:
Redirect from title without diacriticsThere is a lot of work to be done with regard to {{R from title without diacritics}}. --Joy [shallot] 18:06, 4 July 2006 (UTC) ApplicationI want to join. I could possibly contribute (time is a factor) to (former) Yugoslav related topics that are somehow connected to my native country: such as ajvar, burek, Bushava Azbuka, Mizar (band), etc. --FlavrSavr 21:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC) Opća enciklopedijaI started the article and ran out of inspiration. Any help would be welcome: General Encyclopedia of Yugoslavian Lexicographic Institute. --Dijxtra 20:01, 12 September 2006 (UTC) Ha! We have a template now! If you use the encyclopedia as a referene, try using {{User:Dijxtra/GE-YLZ}} template. See how it works in Molat (island) article. --Dijxtra 20:27, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
WikiProjectsI've got an idea - how 'bout we mention links to the independent states' WikiProjects. Maybe we could make a brotherhood (or sisterhood) among 'em - Wikipedia:WikiProject Serbia, Wikipedia:WikiProject Montenegro, Wikipedia:WikiProject Croatia, Wikipedia:WikiProject Bosnia and Herzegovina, Wikipedia:WikiProject Slovenia, Wikipedia:WikiProject Republc of Macedonia. There was an attempt for a Kosovo WikiProject, but it collapsed due to WP:NPOV and don't feed the trolls! --HolyRomanEmperor 21:40, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
Project directoryHello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 17:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC) 1923 electionThis: Kingdom of Serbs, Croats, and Slovenes election, 1923 may interest some of you. It's pretty messy since I don't really have a comprehensive source, but it's a start. It could use some tender love and care from you Yugonostalgics ;D.--Thewanderer 18:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
A mere SuggestionI suggest all members take a look at the Order I've established at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Belgrade. It failed because there aren't many members, and those who are members are mostly inactive - but it could work here; this WikiProject has a lot more members (and luckly, they're active). It might also be a way to prevent the fate of Belgrade's WikiProject catching this one. Just a suggestion, any opinion on how I dealt with the situation? --PaxEquilibrium 17:56, 9 November 2006 (UTC) Well, I have a question about this Romanian city, and, unfortunately, there is no Wikiproject Romania, and this was the best I could do. If anyone knows: is this the same location as Buzău County, which is in the historical region of Muntenia? I probably won't be checking back here, but if anybody could leave a message on the talk page there, or redirect or merge it (or something!), please do. I appreciate your help (even though this isn't the Balkans, strictly speaking). -Patstuarttalk|edits 23:01, 13 December 2006 (UTC) Wikipedia Day AwardsHello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 21:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC) Tito - Stalin splitAnybody still alive here? We have three articles dealing with essentially the same topic: Titoism, Tito-Stalin split and Informbiro. Would anyone be willing to attempt to help merge these articles? Any ideas on how to go about it? --dcabrilo 20:02, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
HelloHi, I'm DIREKTOR from Split and I think I really might be of use to you guys.. so if you don't mind me joining I would like to help finishing up articles about the NOB and such WWII-related subjects. I'm allso interested in the breakup-wars and the period (uncharacteristic as that may be for a Yugo-nostalgic guy ;D ) DIREKTOR
Is there any way to join?Heya fellas, im just interested in if there is any way to join the former yugoslavia project...let me know, thanks. Zlatko 07:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
Yugo FilmsHow do I let people know that they can contribute to the List of Yugoslavian films? (no nationalistic crap :P only acclaimed/notable works.) Where do I put it on the project page, if it's even appropriate? :) Maîtresse 08:44, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
Agrokomerc ScandalHeya fellas, im thinking about starting an article on the Agrokomerc Scandal from 1987, anyone wanna help me out? Im thinking about doing it later this week? Please let me know. Zlatko 22:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC) Foča massacresYou guys might be interested in the discussion about the Foča massacres on that article's talk page.--Carabinieri 07:20, 25 May 2007 (UTC) Proposal: WikiProject EuropeHi, I was wondering what the relationship is between this project, Wikipedia:WikiProject Eastern Europe and Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern Europe. You all overlap on the Western Balkans so I was wondering if you guys had defined your scopes with that in mind. In addition, I was noting down the related projects for Wikipedia:WikiProject European Union and number of small European projects as I was going round. How do you guys feel about a parent "WIkiProject Europe" to link together as many European projects at the top (not merge, unless some fell the need to)? It could help discussion and cooperation between projects and possibly reduce overheads for the smaller ones. In addition for areas with no project of their own. Where a project has few members or is inactive, a common peer-assessment could help them move forward. Ideas? For central discussion, see WIkiproject EU talk page - J Logan t: 11:59, 12 August 2007 (UTC) RequestLeague of Communists of Bosnia and Herzegovina, it's listed under State control. I'm interested yet I can't find many sources on the matter. Can some one with more knowledge on this subject work on this? Premier Tom Mayfair 01:27, 23 August 2007 (UTC) Need a native speakerI'm working on the Red Link Recovery Wikiproject. List of Slovenian language poets lists a poet as Aleš Šteger (a red link). We have a page for Ales Steger, which refers to him in the text as "Ales Šteger". Please could someone tell me which spelling is correct ? thisisace 17:40, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
Gdje ste?Halo ljudi. Interesuje me, ko je ovdje ostao? Vidim edit-e sa Snake BGD i Boze pravde, ali ostatak vas nesto ne-vidjam. Interesuje me ko je ovde jos aktivan? Javite se, ponekad se osjecam ko da sam sam na ovoj wikipediji :(. Zlatko 06:47, 3 October 2007 (UTC) Notification of merge proposalI'm not sure it's within the scope of this WikiProject, but I have proposed that the articles BiH Croats 1991, Croatian percentage in Bosnian-Herzegovian municipalities 1971-1991 and Croatian percentage in Bosnian-Herzegovian municipalities 1953-1961 be merged into Croats of Bosnia and Herzegovina. You are invited to join the discussion, at Talk:Croats of Bosnia and Herzegovina#Merge proposal. AecisBrievenbus 15:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC) CfD nomination of Category:Yugoslav peopleCategory:Yugoslav people and its subcategories have been nominated for renaming to Category:Yugoslavian people (etc.). If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. – Cgingold (talk) 11:59, 3 March 2008 (UTC) USE of copyright permissions for Former YugoslaviaThe template suggested for all works from the Former Yugoslavia (pre-1941 and post-1943). Template: {{PD-Yugoslavia}}
Gaston200 (talk) 15:10, 29 September 2008 (UTC) QuestionA question: shouldn't we rename the WikiProject into "WikiProject Yugoslavia"? WikiProject Soviet Union does not have the word "Former" in it, neither does WikiProject Austria-Hungary. Come to think of it, I've never seen any former country WikiProject with the word "Former" in its name. Surely now that even Serbia and Montenegro is dissolved there is no question as to whether the country is "Former" or not. Indeed, I'd even go as far as to say it is very close to common knowledge among the general public. Apart from some meaningless (and unachievable!) goal of appeasing nationalist fanatics, I can't think of any reason why the WikiProject should keep this name. (Of course, I know little about WikiProject renaming, but I assume it is as simple as article renaming?) --DIREKTOR (TALK) 14:51, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Its a lot of work, no question, but its doable... --DIREKTOR (TALK) 15:13, 1 October 2008 (UTC) Made a few cosmetic alteration to the main project page. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 15:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
CatsCould use help with moving the project cats... --DIREKTOR (TALK) 17:35, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
Active UsersHow many active members are there on the Yugoslavia Forum? -- Gaston200 (talk) 18:25, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
Ironic. Btw, thanks a lot for all the good work you're doing on this project. Hopefully many more Wikipedians of such virtue will join the effort. -- Gaston200 (talk) 05:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC) UserboxesHere are three (new) UBXs for use by members:
Gaston200 (talk) 18:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
New BarnstarThe Yugoslavia Order of Merit is to be awarded to Wikipedians: ...for exceptional effort and dedication to articles related to WikiProject Yugoslavia.
NoticeI'll be busy for a few more days and won't be able to contribute. Thanks for the Barnstar, Gaston, excellent work on the templates. :) --DIREKTOR (TALK) 08:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC) All WikiProject templates are now listed here. These include new ones. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 11:11, 19 October 2008 (UTC) RedesignThe project page is now fully redesigned. Please see the to-do list for articles in urgent need of attention. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 11:59, 21 October 2008 (UTC) Yugoslav or Yugoslavian?What is the proper adjective for someone from the former Yugoslavia, Yugoslav or Yugoslavian? Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#Yugoslavia. Aecis·(away) talk 07:05, 3 December 2008 (UTC) Coordinators' working groupHi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators. All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 07:02, 28 February 2009 (UTC) This is a notice to let you know about Article alerts, a fully-automated subscription-based news delivery system designed to notify WikiProjects and Taskforces when articles are entering Articles for deletion, Requests for comment, Peer review and other workflows (full list). The reports are updated on a daily basis, and provide brief summaries of what happened, with relevant links to discussion or results when possible. A certain degree of customization is available; WikiProjects and Taskforces can choose which workflows to include, have individual reports generated for each workflow, have deletion discussion transcluded on the reports, and so on. An example of a customized report can be found here. If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the Message sent by User:Addbot to all active wiki projects per request, Comments on the message and bot are welcome here. Thanks. — Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:53, 15 March, 2009 (UTC) Pages Needing AttentionHello Direktor. If you would take a gander at this page: Mate Boban, I added some tags, just citations. If an article is citing references, good deal. If the article is POV, it is casting a shadow upon our mixed heritage as former Yugoslavians. I am willing to help on articles that have a POV slant when it pertains to the FROY, and others in between, which are finally starting to dwindle down. In your opinion, did the Mate Boban article merit the tags in put on teh page? Thanks Nathraq (talk) 21:25, 13 April 2009 (UTC) RfC on Talk:Serbo-Croatian languageThere are currently RfCs on Talk:Serbo-Croatian language which directly concern this WikiProject, I'd appreciate any input by knowledgeable Users. --DIREKTOR (TALK) 10:26, 2 June 2009 (UTC) Macedonia naming Request for CommentsA Centralized discussion page set up to decide on a comprehensive naming convention about Macedonia-related naming practices is now inviting comments on a number of competing proposals from the community. Please register your opinions on the RfC subpages 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5. -- ChrisO (talk) 00:56, 27 June 2009 (UTC) New TemplateTemplate:Urban Rail transportation in the former Yugoslavia , in case anyone's interested. (LAz17 (talk) 04:57, 15 September 2009 (UTC)). Can anyone help with this article? ChildofMidnight (talk) 23:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC) User Pim Rijkee asked: "Please consider renaming the article per WP:EN". Additional comments are welcome. --Kebeta (talk) 00:08, 10 December 2009 (UTC) |