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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles/Archive 6
Archives: August 2008 – May 2010 New article which may be of interest to you good peoplePhillips' Sound Recording Services is a new article by a new editor, which may be of interest to members of this Wikiproject. DuncanHill (talk) 16:04, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
It is now up for a GA review.--andreasegde (talk) 22:53, 5 September 2008 (UTC) It passed.--andreasegde (talk) 23:00, 12 October 2008 (UTC) Another new article which may be of interestSeltaeb (merchandising company).--andreasegde (talk) 13:54, 7 August 2008 (UTC) The portalThe redesigned portal is up and running - Portal:The Beatles (or P:TB). I'll try to update it every week, but feel free to fiddle...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 10:59, 10 August 2008 (UTC) According to two editors (Zephyrad and Justin (koavf)) the article should remain as Magic Alex, and not "Alex Mardas (Magic Alex)". This despite the fact that
The mind boggles.--andreasegde (talk) 14:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
I did want to take it to GA, because I put a lot of info into it, and it was "Almost There", as Andy Williams was wont to warble. It's the one that got away, but the world will turn... Back to Phillips' Sound Recording Services and Seltaeb, I suppose.--andreasegde (talk) 15:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC) the Beatles The BeatlesThe furore is hopefully winding down (thanks to Dendodge's intervention) although it will inevitably flare up again at some point. No matter which side anyone is on (the or The) I'm sure it has been a very unpleasant experience.--andreasegde (talk) 13:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Peer review pageI've just set this up. This would allow us to peer review Beatles related articles without clogging up the main Wikipedia peer review page. It will mean a faster review, and one by someone more familiar with the topic. It doesn't stop us from using the main peer review page, and I can't really think of a downside ¡ Dendodge|TalkContribs ! 17:29, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
Looks very nice indeed.--andreasegde (talk) 19:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
Not many people about at this time of year. As long as you think it's good, that's all that counts. Well done, Dendodge| :)--andreasegde (talk) 17:37, 25 August 2008 (UTC) Just so you know, Yellow Submarine (song) is up for an internal Beatles' project peer review. Dendodge|TalkContribs 20:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
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...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 11:44, 10 July 2008 (UTC) QuizPlease go to Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/Quiz for a quiz about The Beatles in general. No inheritance to WikiProject AlbumsAlbums with the Beatles talk page banner {{WPBeatles}} do not currently get categorized in Category:WikiProject Albums articles, the categorization used by Wikipedia:WikiProject Albums. Could someone add the functionality so The Beatles albums are also categorized in the albums categories (namely Category:Album articles by importance and Category:Album articles by quality). At least one extra parameter is needed for the importance rating, since the importance of the album to this project may be different than the album's importance to the albums project. — Twas Now ( talk • contribs • e-mail ) 02:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
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AfDPlease see AfD for The Dissenters. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 04:19, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
BarnstarI just made us a barnstar. {{Beatles barnstar}}. It's a normal barnstar with Paul's Moptop and The Beatles logo. It's crap, I know, but I've never been good at images. Dendodge|TalkContribs 20:13, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
Beatles for Sale imageThe Beatles for Sale cover image was lost (see [1]). Can anyone upload one? I think there are some restrictions on how good the resolution can be. . . (John User:Jwy talk) 18:50, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
TemplateCould someone go over and check out Template:The Beatles. I've attempted to fix a problem, but not sure I've succeeded. (John User:Jwy talk) 18:20, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
First Live RecordingsI'm trying to figure out which template is most appropriate for First Live Recordings. Should it go on Template:The Beatles or Template:The Beatles compilations? Neelix (talk) 22:27, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
Original research on Shakespeare in I Am the Walrus articleI have expressed some concerns about original research in this passage from I Am the Walrus: In an amazing coincidence, Lear IV.6. is the only scene in all of Shakespeare (out of more than a thousand) that features both English homonyms for "Beatle" (only one other scene, II.1. of Henry 6 II, features either of those words more than once).[2] [3] In other words, the Beatles randomly added, in "real time" "found art," in "found art,"[4] the only scene from Shakespeare that features both the words "beadle" and "beetle".[5] [6][7] The first two citations are to a Shakespeare concordance that only produces statistical results by searching for words in Shakespeare's works. It does not discuss anything; it does not note the "amazing coincidence" between the song and Shakespeare. That is clearly original research and/or or synthesized research. Likewise, the remaining sources do not discuss "found art" in relation to this specific song, making the the second sentence also original or synthesized research. An anon editor has persistently re-inserted this information with no substantive change, despite being given an explanation of original research and Wikipedia's policies about original research. Ward3001 (talk) 17:47, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
Canonicity of The Beatles at Shea StadiumThere is a minor spat at Magical Mystery Tour (film) as to whether it's preceded by the Shea Stadium documentary; certainly it is a film about The Beatles but it does not seem to have been officially released. Do we regard this as "A Beatles film" or not? Comments welcome. --Rodhullandemu 20:55, 21 December 2008 (UTC) Is anyone brave enough to fill out the intro to three paragraphs, and then take it to a GA nomination? It's very well referenced, and is very interesting.--andreasegde (talk) 19:00, 22 December 2008 (UTC) George Harrison or George Harold HarrisonThere is some uncertainty over whether Harrison had a middle name. Dispute arises from a claim on shawstar.com that there is no Harold on Harrison's birth certificate, yet reliable sources give Harold as Harrison's middle name. I have set up a discussion point at: Talk:George_Harrison#George_Harold_Harrison. Does anyone know anything about this? SilkTork *YES! 23:28, 23 December 2008 (UTC) File:The Eastman Familyjpeg.jpg listed for deletionAn image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:The Eastman Familyjpeg.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. howcheng {chat} 22:04, 23 December 2008 (UTC) An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:Linda Eastman McCartney.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. howcheng {chat} 22:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC) They're at it again... Can anybody reading this please reply on the discussion page? --andreasegde (talk) 15:15, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
Peer reviewCan somebody please check out WP:TBPR - I've listed all 3 of the peer reviews listed there myself, so can't review them, but nobody ever visits the page. I'm just trying to raise awareness of this important part of the project. Dendodge TalkContribs 16:09, 29 December 2008 (UTC) CollaborationSince nobody seems to bother with it, I thought I'd publicise it here - we have a monthly collaboration. It is selected monthly by a bot, and I would appreciate any efforts to improve the article. The current article is (automatically updated): January 2025 Clicking the article name will, obviously, take you to the article page. Clicking 'talk' is also self explanatory - it takes you to the article's talk page. I have set aside a special page for collaboration, which is a subpage of the main COTM page; clicking 'collaborate' takes you there. 'To do' is a quick link to the article's todo list. Please help improve the article every month - it is currently (as I write this) If I Fell. Thanks! Dendodge TalkContribs 18:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC) The Beatles All WorksA "complete" discography article has been created at The Beatles All Works. Seems redundant with The Beatles discography. I've tried to start a discussion at Talk:The Beatles discography#The Beatles All Works. (John User:Jwy talk) 18:59, 22 January 2009 (UTC) New B-Class assessment scale!Please check that all articles classified as B-Class have |b1 = yes |b2 = yes |b3 = yes |b4 = yes |b5 = yes |b6 = yes as part of their {{WPBeatles}} banner - it doesn't do anything yet, but when all have been assessed, I will implement the scale. The criteria do not have to be too strict, just check that they pass WP:1.0/B. Thanks! Dendodge TalkContribs 16:33, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
Standardise importance?We currently rate articles at whatever importance we feel like, so we have things everywhere. Here's my suggestion for a standardised scale - feel free to offer your own:
I did this in about a minute, so it's probably not as well thought out as it could be - please suggest alterations before we implement this. Dendodge TalkContribs 11:57, 1 February 2009 (UTC) Milestone Announcements
I thought this WikiProject might be interested. Ping me with any specific queries or leave them on the page linked to above. Thanks! - Jarry1250 (t, c) 22:23, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
Hofner Bass InfoI added a brief blurb to Hofner about the Icon B-Bass limited edition colors. Does someone want to have a look and make any suggestions? Montypics (talk) 20:27, 5 February 2009 (UTC) Featured portal considerationPortal:The Beatles is being considered for Featured portal status. Comments are appreciated, here: Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:The Beatles. Cirt (talk) 02:40, 9 February 2009 (UTC) How honoured is short-form citation style for books?Regarding Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles#Citations, how active and/or honored is this guideline for short-form cites for books, ie what is covered at Wikipedia:Citing_sources#Shortened_footnotes? The recommended short form of "<ref>Lewisohn 2003 p23</ref>" is a bit harsh in having no space between the 'p' and the page number, and I notice a lot of variation/deviation away from that in The Beatles and in the four members' articles. Also I see some use of short titles rather than years, which to me has more mnemonic value if slightly less compact. I've looked through the archives for past discussion on this, but didn't see any, unless I missed it in all the "the/The" drama. I'm about to go through and get all of George Harrison's book cites in short form, so I want to know what's the best form to use. Wasted Time R (talk) 02:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
Potential good topicHi, everyone. I am not a contributor to articles related to The Beatles, but I think I should let this project know that there are a few potential good topics you guys can nominate. The following one is pretty close as 4 out of 5 have already achieved good article status: —Chris! ct 02:50, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
American editions of albumsI would guess this has been discussed before (but I didn't find it), and I don't want to create an inordinate ruckus, but in looking at The Beatles navigation template and individual album pages I am very much bothered by the omission of the US album releases from the template. Prior to the release of cds, millions of American fans' knowledge of the Beatles came from their battered copies of Meet The Beatles!, The Beatles' Second Album, Beatles '65, etc. Of course they are not the "official" Beatle albums (and I have to say how exciting it was for me to buy vinyls of the "real" Beatles albums the first time I went to London in 1971), but I think we are doing a disservice to American fans and to the world of knowledge by not including these American editions in the nav box. If I'm looking at Please Please Me (the album), I want an easy way to navigate to the equivalent American album(s) and I want to see how they lined up and what their chronology was. I know the nav box is big, but I think adding a couple of lines won't hurt it, and it will be a significant improvement to our fine set of Beatles articles which right now tend to minimize the fact that the US played at least some tiny part in the fame and success of the band. Thoughts? Tvoz/talk 20:01, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
Coordinators' working groupHi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators. All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:30, 28 February 2009 (UTC) Edit warring on Hey JudeIf anyone wishes to weigh in on a discussion I started on at Talk:Hey Jude#Jeremy and Marc Sinden in an attempt to avert an edit war, please take a look. Crowley666 has repeatedly added Jeremy and Marc Sinden as participants in the promotional video, claiming that they are the only two "positively identified" and "notable in their own right", which is true of other participants in the video. This clearly violates WP:WEIGHT and WP:N. He has edited a lot on articles for Jeremy and Marc Sinden, and I believe he's POV-pushing. He's not quite a WP:SPA, but it's close. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 03:12, 19 February 2009 (UTC) Legitimate Consensus on Hey JudeA valid and interesting discussion about including or not including recently published facts (http://www.liverpooldailypost.co.uk/liverpool-life-features/liverpool-special-features/2009/03/06/marc-sinden-on-john-lennon-we-were-in-the-presence-of-god-92534-23077241/) in the Hey Jude page seems to have ground to a halt on a side-issue on sockpuppets, IP users (such as me!) and warnings over perceived personal attacks. Two editors feel that the facts presented and sourced are either not vaild and/or trivial and seem unwilling to justify their exclusion and repeated deleation. However, I have never seen this information published before and in spite of one editors assertion that other participants in the video have been identified previously, but will not say where or who (apart from insisting, without any proof, that Twiggy was in it - untrue according to the new source), I feel that it is important historically to include the information so that other Wiki community users can at least get to read it and make their own mind up, as opposed to having it made up for them. Can we please have a consensus of editors to make a decision on this issue? 94.194.100.228 (talk) 18:49, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Note that the much larger issue here is sockpuppetry and vote-stacking, regardless of whether the information about the Sindens should be included. This particular information was subject to extensive sockpuppetry by Captainclegg by use of numerous sockpuppets. Once this was discovered Captainclegg was initially blocked, but the blocking admin agreed to unblock after Captainclegg promised to never be a puppetmaster again. Then, after a new discussion began on the issue, Captainclegg promised to stay out of it (which he did not do), and comments from multiple IPs with few or no other edits beyond that issue, all located in a restricted geographic range, began appearing in the discussion. Some of us have become very concerned that there might be ongoing sockpuppetry. Another editor and I have suggested restricting any consensus decision to registered editors. I welcome comments on Talk:Hey Jude from registered editors involved in WikiProject The Beatles. And once again, I emphasize that the larger issue (sockpuppetry and the integrity of Wikipedia) is of much greater concern than the specific contents of Hey Jude. If sockpuppetry can sway a discussion on this article, it could then spread to other Beatles-related articles. Thanks. Ward3001 (talk) 19:35, 15 March 2009 (UTC) and once again, we are discussing items not relevent to the article... 94.194.100.228 (talk) 19:39, 15 March 2009 (UTC) and it should be pointed out that Ward3001's "restricted geographic range" is LONDON! Quite "restricted"! 94.194.100.228 (talk) 13:49, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Right, I'm getting seriously ticked off here. I am being accused of being behind everything. Any moment now I fully expect to be accused of being behind Kennedys assassination! On 9 March I admitted to having "multiple accounts". I had made a mistake, I apologized publicly and gave my word that I would not repeat such a stupid action. I was unblocked the following day. I have kept to my word. Now (15 March) I read that Ward3001 is STILL going on about it. If I register my legitimate vote (as I did) on the Hey Jude matter I am accused of getting involved and if I stay silent (which I had done) I am accused obliquely of being behind every IP user who has an opinion on the subject at hand on Wikipedia. I can't win. I am NOT a puppetmaster. I am NOT running any sockpuppets. I do NOT have multiple accounts any more. I have NEVER edited other than through my account. I am NOT, as I have said before, Mobydick or any IP addresses shown in this debate. I am NOT responsible for anyone else’s opinion on this debate. If someone could please tell me how I can prove that I am not anyone else, I would be very grateful. Ward3001: On the 11 March you responded to the administrator Lucasbfr that you “don't have it in for Captainclegg”. Your subsequent and continued attacks show this not to be accurate. This is grotesquely unfair, unwarranted and now getting to the point of a personal attack and harassment. I am sure that this must be an offence in the Wiki community. If anyone knows the specific offence, will they please let me know? In any other media I would have recourse to the law... Some of the community seemingly disagree with your standpoint. Don’t impotently blame me for that. It’s not my fault. Get over it - please! It is a distraction from what should be being discussed. Captainclegg (talk) 20:55, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
Clegg, get ticked off all you want. You have a lot brazen insolence just saying something like that about issues on Talk:Hey Jude, the very article that you decided to commit some of the worst policy violations possible on Wikipedia. I don't consider you a part of that discussion, and as I have told you on your talk page, you hung yourself; no one did it to you. You want to know what is "grotesquely unfair": Your horrific sockpuppety. "Get over it"? You get over it. Stop whining and move on to something else. Take your own advice and stay out of this. You didn't get your way by your incredible sockpuppetry, and you're not getting your way by complaining here. And that's my last comment to you here unless you violate other Wikipedia policies. In my opinion, you don't exist here or on Talk:Hey Jude. Ward3001 (talk) 21:22, 15 March 2009 (UTC) Anyone reading this can see how pathetic and puerile this tit-for-tat so-called debate has become. To the last two editors: You are sounding like a couple of schoolyard bullies ganging up on the new boy and I am waiting for one of you to stick your tongue out and go 'ya-boo-sucks'. Let it go! When you boys have finally finished throwing your toys out of the pram, perhaps we could get back to the real discussion? It is somewhat more interesting... 94.194.100.228 (talk) 13:32, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
I said at the top of this article, when asking for a wider consensus, that the main issue on the Talk:Hey Jude page was being muddied with peripheral arguments that two editors were apparently unwilling to leave aside and I see that they are just proving my point on this page as well, plus the note Ward3001 has now left on my talk page warning that he will block me. I am not going to waste time and lower myself to respond to his peculiar statements, beligerent attitude, threats and inaccurate insinuations regarding me and/or Clegg (who, for the final time I am NOT connected with) but his constant, obsessive fixation with sockpuppetry conspiracy has yet again meant that he has not read what I had written in the Talk:Hey Jude page. Namely, that I am not interested in the Sinden’s inclusion per se, but the knowledge that the source brings us (and no, I am NOT connected with the Sinden’s or the Liverpool Post either). Other editors seem to have appreciated this and agreed. Do please check the detail before you make any more erroneous accusations. If however he does see his threat through and block me from participating, which I believe to be his intention, I trust in the integrity of other Wiki users to keep up the fight to allow accurate, sourced knowledge to be published. Some have already contacted me and that fills me with hope and pride. 94.194.100.228 (talk) 15:13, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
as someone who was also 'pistol-whipped' by Ward3001 for being a IP editor (my choice) and a sock-puppet to the universe im pleased this is "out of the bag" too. something is very wrong here and if 94.194.100.228's prediction happens i,ll be on the case. ps im sending a note to your other ip address 86.133.199.210 (talk) 16:06, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
I have just included a factual, uncontentious, compromise version of the Promo film paragraph to suit all tastes. The Sindens name has been removed but the source retained, just as 94.194.100.228 suggested. All editors: Please watch to see what happens next and if it is just the facts that are being suppressed for unexplained reasons. I say no more. 65.48.132.153 (talk) 12:46, 6 April 2009 (UTC) I thought I'd nip over from the Michael Jackson WikiProject and ask you guys for a favour. I've cleaned and sourced the above article, and would really appreciate somebody adding the credits for this song. Thanks in advance, Pyrrhus16 12:47, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
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Sony/ATVFor those of you who have the Beatles For Sale book by John Blaney, could you please tell me on which page is Sony/ATV valued at $30 billion? I would have used this, but a blog is an unreliable source. Thanks. Pyrrhus16 12:12, 8 April 2009 (UTC) Ticket to RidePlease provide your opinion about moving "Ticket to Ride" from The Beatles song to a disambiguation page. The dispute is about whether or not the song is the primary topic. See Talk:Ticket to Ride (disambiguation). — John Cardinal (talk) 00:05, 20 April 2009 (UTC) Hello There are references to The Beatles Complete On Ukulele all over the place; this seems non-notable. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 22:16, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm still waiting for The Beatles on didgeridoo.--andreasegde (talk) 21:50, 10 May 2009 (UTC) Does your WikiProject care about talk pages of redirects?Does your project care about what happens to the talk pages of articles that have been replaced with redirects? If so, please provide your input at User:Mikaey/Request for Input/ListasBot 3. Thanks, Matt (talk) 02:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC) "And now over to Dendodge in the studio..."--andreasegde (talk) 18:09, 12 May 2009 (UTC) FAR on Yesterday (song)I have nominated Yesterday (song) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Cirt (talk) 21:32, 12 May 2009 (UTC) GA Sweeps invitationThis message is being sent to WikiProjects with GAs under their scope. Since August 2007, WikiProject Good Articles has been participating in GA sweeps. The process helps to ensure that articles that have passed a nomination before that date meet the GA criteria. After nearly two years, the running total has just passed the 50% mark. In order to expediate the reviewing, several changes have been made to the process. A new worklist has been created, detailing which articles are left to review. Instead of reviewing by topic, editors can consider picking and choosing whichever articles they are interested in. We are always looking for new members to assist with reviewing the remaining articles, and since this project has GAs under its scope, it would be beneficial if any of its members could review a few articles (perhaps your project's articles). Your project's members are likely to be more knowledgeable about your topic GAs then an outside reviewer. As a result, reviewing your project's articles would improve the quality of the review in ensuring that the article meets your project's concerns on sourcing, content, and guidelines. However, members can also review any other article in the worklist to ensure it meets the GA criteria. If any members are interested, please visit the GA sweeps page for further details and instructions in initiating a review. If you'd like to join the process, please add your name to the running total page. In addition, for every member that reviews 100 articles from the worklist or has a significant impact on the process, s/he will get an award when they reach that threshold. With ~1,300 articles left to review, we would appreciate any editors that could contribute in helping to uphold the quality of GAs. If you have any questions about the process, reviewing, or need help with a particular article, please contact me or OhanaUnited and we'll be happy to help. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 22:10, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
Sub-articlesThese are great, but they need a really good polish for dates, style and info. They should all be brought up to GA standard. It's early days, but there is much to do.--andreasegde (talk) 18:34, 25 May 2009 (UTC) Magical Mystery Tour article titlesI suggest we do the following:
Roll on up to Talk:Magical Mystery Tour (album)#Article titles to discuss (don't start a thread here, please). (John User:Jwy talk) 20:57, 28 May 2009 (UTC) I need an Amazing Race partner
Hey Jude (album) needs loveThe Hey Jude (album) article has some excellent and detailed background information, but it remains mostly unsourced, so the article is currently rated as a Start-class. It need some love to bring it up to at least a C (although I'd bet that it wouldn't take too much effort to bring it higher). —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 15:12, 2 June 2009 (UTC) This is a (very) new article, but it will be very detailed, which should ease the load on the main Beatles' article, and also provide a lot of info (Lennon and the nuns will also be included). Please contribute, when you feel the urge...--andreasegde (talk) 20:22, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
GA and FA articlesOne more and this project will have 50 articles.--andreasegde (talk) 10:23, 3 June 2009 (UTC) Please put the articles that have been nominated for a GA on this list.--andreasegde (talk) 17:05, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
It's on the project page, so only us lot will see it.--andreasegde (talk) 10:18, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Now that's what I call brilliant. :) Enjoy your well-deserved Barnstar.--andreasegde (talk) 12:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
Can we please keep a track of these nominations by posting them here, or here? Keep in step, little piggies...--andreasegde (talk) 20:44, 15 June 2009 (UTC) removal of adopted articlescan i have permission to remove the crossed-out articles from this section Zobango (talk) 19:58, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
Bill HarryBill Harry is coming along nicely, although I'm having trouble with a certain editor who is on my case about photos.--andreasegde (talk) 14:36, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
Done it.--andreasegde (talk) 18:04, 29 June 2009 (UTC) McCartney in Iranhttp://www.iranian.com/Jan96/Articles/Beatelha.html This link claims McCartney made an appearance on Iranian television, but I cant find anywhere else that states this Zobango (talk) 00:06, 4 July 2009 (UTC) I've been working on this article on and off for about three weeks, doing a major expansion, fact check, and clean-up. I tried to keep GA criteria in mind as I was editing, but I don't want to presume that it's anywhere near ready for GA nomination. I'd appreciate someone taking an informal look-see to determine the next steps that would be appropriate. Thanks. —Mainstream Nerd (talk) 02:16, 5 July 2009 (UTC) P.S. Love Me DoI was just going through the MPL catalog to see what kinds of songs they have the publishing rights to, and I came across a song called "P.S. Love Me Do". It turns out to be a medley of "Love Me Do" and "P.S. I Love You", performed TranslationsHi, fellow Beatles fans! I'd love to translate some articles from the English wiki to the Dutch one, since there are a lot missing. But can I translate it without interfering copyright rules? Perhaps it's also a nice idea to create a Dutch wikiproject for this. --ArnoBeatle (talk) 23:53, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
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-- Mr.Z-man 23:51, 11 July 2009 (UTC) GA reassessment of Astrid KirchherrI have reassessed the above article and found a few concerns which are at Talk:Astrid Kirchherr/GA1. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 16:14, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
Genre ChangesHi everyone. I recently started to edit here, and I've noticed that there's been a lot of contention over the genre(s) listed in the infobox for The Beatles, various songs and albums, and also the members of the band. You're probably all aware of this, but this page may be a good place for a centralized discussion of the issue. Deserted Cities 15:53, 16 August 2009 (UTC) GA reassessment of Cynthia LennonI have conducted a reassessment of the above article as part of the GA Sweeps process. I have found some concerns with the article which you can see at Talk:Cynthia Lennon/GA1. I have placed the article on hold whilst these are fixed. Thanks. Jezhotwells (talk) 00:26, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
I have cleaned it it and have nominated it again.--andreasegde (talk) 09:15, 12 October 2009 (UTC) Archive BotsI'm upset with whomever decided to make use to the archive bots to archive the talk pages, both here and at Talk:The Beatles. Strangely, they're not even the same bots! Either way, though, the bots do incremental archiving, which just makes things really hard to follow because they don't do it in any logical grouping. They simply wait for some threads to get old or some archive pages to get to a certain size threshold, and then they just archive random bits. Because it's an automated system, it makes mistakes when guessing where one section starts, and another one begins. And, as if that weren't bad enough, at least one of the bots went back and "consolidated" the archives that I had done by hand. This just screws up the history even more. I don't know what to propose to make things better, as it would be quite a burden to go back and fix things by hand. I know how tedious it is to do it by hand, and I know that I'm obviously not always around to do it, but I am here to express my disdain for the new status quo. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 21:04, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
Apple Records discographyI notice the Apple Records discography is listed here as requiring a cleanup. I recently did a complete revamp of the article and would be interested to know what the WikiProject members think about it. Can anymore be done to improve it? Would be interested to know what your thoughts are. Jordansongs 00:40, 2 September 2009 (UTC) Current events portalI've added a note the to the current events portal entry for today. It may need to be spruced up with more direct wikilinks or better verbiage or sources. —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 18:08, 9 September 2009 (UTC) No controversy over omitted material in the Mono set?I posted the following at The Beatles in Mono and am cross-posting it here, too: Considering the costs of the box sets, I'm surprised there's no controversy over the fact the Mono set omits the DVD bonus, as well as the remaining albums. Stereo or mono notwithstanding, it forces people to spend hundreds more if they want a complete canon, or having to deal with the stereo versions and skip this one if they want the full set plus the DVD. (I know when the boxes were announced I assumed the Mono set would include the mono mixes where applicable both otherwise be complete; when I found out otherwise I didn't bother buying either set). And in some places - Amazon.com for certain - the mono set is more expensive. Hasn't there been any criticism as to how this was handled? If so, it should be noted. On a related note, I have heard anecdotally that the Beatles releases are being called the last hurrah for the CD format. This too needs to be included in both this article and the Stereo set article, if a source can be located, of course. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 15:07, 22 September 2009 (UTC) Side selectionsSomeone is screwing up the side selections for the individual Beatle albums. For example with Magical Mystery Tour an editor insists on making the first track of side two selection 7 when it obviously should be selection 1. I have never seen a side two label which lists the first track as number 7. Please monitor the album articles to make sure each side begins with track one. Steelbeard1 (talk) 16:27, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
Someone is trying to make MMT an original British LP.Despite a warning given to User talk:96.250.145.195, he is still counting Magical Mystery Tour as an original British LP. Please monitor the individual British Beatle album articles to make sure he does not correct the album numbering sequence again. Steelbeard1 (talk) 11:24, 18 October 2009 (UTC) The article has been assessed for GA status and simply needs the lead expanding to meet the requirements in WP:Lead, and some additional background information to explain more fully the presence of The Beatles in Hamburg. I am putting the article on hold for seven days to allow this to be done. The nominator and main contributor has not logged Wikipedia since 16 September. If I get time I will do the work myself, but I am currently quite busy on and off wiki, and any assistance would be welcome. SilkTork *YES! 12:48, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
A new edit war.User talk:Das Ansehnlisch is edit warring concerning content he is trying to change in the Past Masters (The Beatles albums) by removing critical details essential to the article about the songs in this compilation double album. Please investigate. Steelbeard1 (talk) 14:26, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
Currently these seem to be overlapping and the scope of these article collections are ill-defined. Should one be merged with the other? Should they be renamed to something which makes their scope clear? Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 05:18, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
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If you are interested in watchlisting all of the unreferenced articles once you install Cleanup_listings, contact me, User talk:Ikip Ikip 05:20, 26 January 2010 (UTC) AfDPlease see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/The Beatles Complete On Ukulele The project's to-do box doesn't list AfDs, so I figured I would post it here. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 00:59, 4 February 2010 (UTC) Most of this article's text appears to be lifted from the third reference (Calkin) which has a copyright notice at the bottom of the page. I'm not in a position to fix it myself, so I'm bringing it up here for anyone who can. Thanks! ReverendWayne (talk) 17:10, 13 February 2010 (UTC) GAR notificationLetting you know that an article under this project's scope (Julia Lennon) is undergoing an individual good article reassessment. You can read the list of concerns at Talk:Julia Lennon/GA1. Thanks, Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 20:28, 13 February 2010 (UTC) Mimi Smith GA Sweeps: On HoldI have reviewed Mimi Smith for GA Sweeps to determine if it still qualifies as a Good Article. In reviewing the article I have found several issues, which I have detailed here. Since the article falls under the scope of this project, I figured you would be interested in contributing to further improve the article. Please comment there to help the article maintain its GA status. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 06:41, 16 February 2010 (UTC) I've started a discussion here on whether to include more articles in a history section. Regards, --Pawnkingthree (talk) 22:53, 24 February 2010 (UTC) FAR: Real Love (John Lennon song)I have nominated Real Love (John Lennon song) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. --Plotfeat (talk) 19:27, 12 April 2010 (UTC) Copyright violation: File:Lennon&mccartney.pngAn admin has determined that File:Lennon&mccartney.png appears to be a copyvio of a photograph by Linda McCartney, and has nominated it for deletion. Having looked at the evidence provided by the admin, I have to say I agree, and I've responded to that effect. If anyone has evidence to the contrary and wishes to contest the deletion, please do so. PL290 (talk) 17:34, 4 May 2010 (UTC) Get rid of article to-do lists?Is it time to clear out the article to-do lists? Unless used regularly and kept current, they're likely to do more harm than good when well-meaning new editors look at them for the first time. There's such a lot of random old stuff on there from days gone by. For instance, these excerpts from Talk:Paul_McCartney/to_do:
I question how many editors actually look at the to-do list anyway. The transclusion means it doesn't automatically get watchlisted with the talk page. Are there any articles where the to-do list is actually put to good use? I propose we clear them out and simply use the discussion pages to progress any improvement suggestions that come up. PL290 (talk) 19:23, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
"*'Keen football fan' - hardly. None of the Beatles were big football fans. Macca has suggested he's a fan of both Liverpool and Everton, but this is more local diplomacy rather than a genuine enthusiasm for the game. Sentence needs removing." "It was well known that McCartney was a supporter of Everton Football Club, and that his father and relatives used to take him to matches.[196][197]" Two references. Yes, two. The sentence does not need removing. "Lennon and McCartney were present to watch the 1966 FA Cup Final at Wembley, between Everton and Sheffield Wednesday, and McCartney attended the 1968 FA Cup Final (18 May 1968) which was played by West Bromwich Albion against Everton.[203] After the end of the match, McCartney shared cigarettes and whisky with other football fans.[202] The ex-Liverpool player, Albert Stubbins, was the only footballer shown on the Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band cover.[197]" Stop putting your own spin on it. It was as it was. If you were British, you would know what football means, and it's not called soccer. "this is more local diplomacy rather than a genuine enthusiasm for the game". Don't make me laugh. --andreasegde (talk) 19:38, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
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