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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Romania/Archive 4
This pretty long article isn't linked from anywhere. It seems a work in progress or something. Pcap ping 01:36, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
BLP articles in danger of immediate, no warning deletionFor those not following the WikiDrama, the arbcom and jimbo decided that it's okay to delete unreferenced BLPs on sight, without even applying a CSD tag. Here is a list of such articles on topics that interest this WikiPorject, courtesy of User:CBM: Monica Anghel - Please go through the list and strike out those articles that have been referenced. Some of these may be incorrectly tagged as unreferenced. Pcap ping 23:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC) Manually discovered: Adrian Copilul Minune, Călin Albuţ, Sebastian Achim, Cosmin Frăsinescu, Liviu Dorin Băjenaru, Ciprian Botoşer, I knew that looked too short to be the full list, so here is the result by category intersection: Monica Anghel -
György Kurtág -
Marcel Pavel -
Pcap ping 02:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC) WP 1.0 bot announcementThis message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the WP 1.0 assessment system. On Saturday, January 23, 2010, the WP 1.0 bot will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's summary table will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the WP 1.0 project homepage. — Carl (CBM · talk) 03:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC) Drama on RomaniaSee Wikipedia:ANI#Disruptive_edits.2C_nationalistic_POV_pushing.2C_removal_of_references_and_edit_war. Pcap ping 22:49, 29 January 2010 (UTC) A template language issueWikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2010_January_26#Template:Maros_.28Mure.C5.9F.29_County. Pcap ping 03:50, 30 January 2010 (UTC) GA Reassessment of Leonard OrbanLeonard Orban has been nominated for a good article reassessment. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to good article quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status will be removed from the article. Reviewers' concerns are here. --Malleus Fatuorum 15:49, 13 February 2010 (UTC) Bot request to add infoboxesI've made a request here for approval for a bot which will add infoboxes to articles on Romanian communes (obviously omitting those which already have them). Please comment on that page.--Kotniski (talk) 11:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC) Unreferenced living people articles botUser:DASHBot/Wikiprojects provides a list, updated daily, of unreferenced living people articles (BLPs) related to your project. There has been a lot of discussion recently about deleting these unreferenced articles, so it is important that these articles are referenced. The unreferenced articles related to your project can be found at >>>Wikipedia:WikiProject Romania/Archive 4/Unreferenced BLPs<<< If you do not want this wikiproject to participate, please add your project name to this list. Thank you.
Central notice not currently translated into Romanianmeta:Wikimania 2010/CentralNotice currently needs a Romanian translation. - Jmabel | Talk 22:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC) The ethnicity of Iancu de HunedoaraI've opened a thread about Iancu de Hunedoara's ethnicity on Fringe theory noticeboard: [2]. Iancu de Hunedoara is an important character in Hungarian and Romanian history, so maybe some editors will be interested (Umumu (talk) 07:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)) Alexandru MadgearuAnyone that has a little time to spare, may check this article I just created. It's not big but it can be expanded.Villick (talk) 14:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC) Bot request related to this projectThere is currently a bot request for a bot to create redirects to Romanian article titles containing the letters Ş and Ţ (S and T with cedilla) from the corresponding names using Ș and Ț (S and T with comma). If you have any opinion on this request, or any ideas on how to determine that a title is Romanian rather than Turkish, Kurdish, Zazaki, Azerbaijani, Crimean Tatar, Gagauz, Tatar, or Turkmen (based on the list at Cedilla#Use of the cedilla with the letter S), please comment there. Thanks. Anomie⚔ 12:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC) Ceauşescu's trial: request for further opinion.Hi. I came across the article about Nicolae Ceauşescu earlier today and removed a characterisation about his trial being in front of a "kangaroo court" for being unattributed and possibly politically motivated. This was reverted, and I've started a discussion on the talk page about the use of term. I really don't want to get entrenched in this fight again, so I plan so stay out of it and allow people with a greater knowledge of the subject, i.e. WP Romania, to discuss it among themselves. Thanks, Sceptre (talk) 21:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC) Hello! I have a question to inquire you with...As far as I understand, this project is concerned with the expansion and addition of Romania-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have seen many articles on ro.wikipedia not respecting the policies (biased, not keeping a NPOV, unverifiable) or much too short. Would completing these with translated information from reliable articles on the en wiki be a good idea ? Sincerely, NikitaUtiu (talk) 19:32, 29 July 2010 (UTC). Merging noticeboard hereI'm proposing to merge/move the archives of Wikipedia:Romanian Wikipedians' notice board and it's talk page here. Both worked as rather fragmented discussion areas. To the uninitiated outside this WikiProject, it wasn't/isn't at all apparent where to go. Those papge have also been inactive for a year, so I've marked them such a while back. A single archive search box would be nice too, it that looks more complicated than the WT:MATH one because the built-in search doesn't appear to handle multiple prefixes. So, we'd have to use the indexing bot like WT:MED. Pcap ping 17:13, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
BLP articles in danger of immediate, no warning deletionFor those not following the WikiDrama, the arbcom and jimbo decided that it's okay to delete unreferenced BLPs on sight, without even applying a CSD tag. Here is a list of such articles on topics that interest this WikiPorject, courtesy of User:CBM: Monica Anghel - Please go through the list and strike out those articles that have been referenced. Some of these may be incorrectly tagged as unreferenced. Pcap ping 23:52, 21 January 2010 (UTC) Manually discovered: Adrian Copilul Minune, Călin Albuţ, Sebastian Achim, Cosmin Frăsinescu, Liviu Dorin Băjenaru, Ciprian Botoşer, I knew that looked too short to be the full list, so here is the result by category intersection: Monica Anghel -
György Kurtág -
Marcel Pavel -
Pcap ping 02:17, 23 January 2010 (UTC) WP 1.0 bot announcementThis message is being sent to each WikiProject that participates in the WP 1.0 assessment system. On Saturday, January 23, 2010, the WP 1.0 bot will be upgraded. Your project does not need to take any action, but the appearance of your project's summary table will change. The upgrade will make many new, optional features available to all WikiProjects. Additional information is available at the WP 1.0 project homepage. — Carl (CBM · talk) 03:51, 22 January 2010 (UTC) Bot request to add infoboxesI've made a request here for approval for a bot which will add infoboxes to articles on Romanian communes (obviously omitting those which already have them). Please comment on that page.--Kotniski (talk) 11:06, 8 March 2010 (UTC) Unreferenced living people articles botUser:DASHBot/Wikiprojects provides a list, updated daily, of unreferenced living people articles (BLPs) related to your project. There has been a lot of discussion recently about deleting these unreferenced articles, so it is important that these articles are referenced. The unreferenced articles related to your project can be found at >>>Wikipedia:WikiProject Romania/Archive 4/Unreferenced BLPs<<< If you do not want this wikiproject to participate, please add your project name to this list. Thank you.
Central notice not currently translated into Romanianmeta:Wikimania 2010/CentralNotice currently needs a Romanian translation. - Jmabel | Talk 22:32, 1 April 2010 (UTC) The ethnicity of Iancu de HunedoaraI've opened a thread about Iancu de Hunedoara's ethnicity on Fringe theory noticeboard: [5]. Iancu de Hunedoara is an important character in Hungarian and Romanian history, so maybe some editors will be interested (Umumu (talk) 07:55, 9 April 2010 (UTC)) Alexandru MadgearuAnyone that has a little time to spare, may check this article I just created. It's not big but it can be expanded.Villick (talk) 14:12, 11 May 2010 (UTC) Bot request related to this projectThere is currently a bot request for a bot to create redirects to Romanian article titles containing the letters Ş and Ţ (S and T with cedilla) from the corresponding names using Ș and Ț (S and T with comma). If you have any opinion on this request, or any ideas on how to determine that a title is Romanian rather than Turkish, Kurdish, Zazaki, Azerbaijani, Crimean Tatar, Gagauz, Tatar, or Turkmen (based on the list at Cedilla#Use of the cedilla with the letter S), please comment there. Thanks. Anomie⚔ 12:56, 14 June 2010 (UTC) Ceauşescu's trial: request for further opinion.Hi. I came across the article about Nicolae Ceauşescu earlier today and removed a characterisation about his trial being in front of a "kangaroo court" for being unattributed and possibly politically motivated. This was reverted, and I've started a discussion on the talk page about the use of term. I really don't want to get entrenched in this fight again, so I plan so stay out of it and allow people with a greater knowledge of the subject, i.e. WP Romania, to discuss it among themselves. Thanks, Sceptre (talk) 21:28, 19 July 2010 (UTC) Hello! I have a question to inquire you with...As far as I understand, this project is concerned with the expansion and addition of Romania-related articles on en.wikipedia. I have seen many articles on ro.wikipedia not respecting the policies (biased, not keeping a NPOV, unverifiable) or much too short. Would completing these with translated information from reliable articles on the en wiki be a good idea ? Sincerely, NikitaUtiu (talk) 19:32, 29 July 2010 (UTC). Please for all of those interested add to this discussion. Nergaal (talk) 06:06, 1 September 2010 (UTC) Question about famine in WWI RomaniaAre there any online sources regarding famine in Romania during WW1 and its causes?--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 20:02, 3 September 2010 (UTC) Civilian deaths in Romania (1914 borders) exceeded the prewar level by 430,000, caused by food shortages, epidemics and the Spanish Flu Source Hersch, Liebmann, La mortalité causée par la guerre mondiale, Metron- The International Review of Statistics, 1927, Vol 7. No 1. This study published in an academic journal detailed the demographic impact of the war on France, the UK, Italy, Belgium, Portugal, Serbia, Romania and Greece. The total estimated increase in the number of civilian deaths during the war was 2,171,000, not including an additional 984,000 Spanish Flu deaths. These indirect war losses were due to the severe shortages caused by the disruption of trade. The article is available from Metron, the publisher I have the full text of the article and can read French --Woogie10w (talk) 20:19, 3 September 2010 (UTC) The territory of Transylvania was part of Austria-Hungary during World War I. The following estimates of Romanian deaths, within contemporary borders, during World War I were made by a Russian journalist in a 2004 handbook of human losses in the 20th century. Total dead 748,000: including military losses 220,000 with the Romanian forces and 150,000 with the Austro-Hungarian forces and POW deaths in captivity of 48,000. Civilian dead were as follows due to famine and disease 200,000, killed in military operations 120,000 and 10,000 dead in Austrian prisons Source Erlikman, Vadim (2004). Poteri narodonaseleniia v XX veke : spravochnik. Moscow. ISBN 5-93165-107-1. --Woogie10w (talk) 22:04, 3 September 2010 (UTC) Was the famine caused by confiscation of food by Central Powers? --MyMoloboaccount (talk) 22:55, 3 September 2010 (UTC) Here is a summary of what Liebmann wrote 1-data for Romania is incomplete and problematical 2-details the statistics on population are given 3-Epedimics of Cholera and typhus are mentioned as causes of increased mortality along with war in general 4-Enemy Occupation is mentioned as a cause in general. No mention of food confiscations However I do have a source on the Austrian occupation of Serbia that mentions mass starvation and famine caused by limited rations provided by the occupation forces and the forced confiscations of food and other materials. Also the Austrians subjected Serbia to a reign of terror that provoked a guerilla movement in Serbia. The Red Cross was in Serbia and reported on the horrific famine and epedemics during the occupation Source Serbias’s Great War 1914-1918 Andrej Mitrovic ( a great read very interesting)--Woogie10w (talk) 23:24, 3 September 2010 (UTC) Mitrovic was a respected Yugoslav scholar, the work is solid professional history.-- This is on Google Books see page 235
Balaur bondocCould someone from this project who speaks Romanian be so kind as to come over to the Balaur bondoc article and put a pronunciation guide on it? An IPA would be best. None of us who've been working on this article know how to pronounce it. [7] Thanks! -Ferahgo the Assassin (talk) 03:42, 4 September 2010 (UTC) Romania articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 releaseVersion 0.8 is a collection of Wikipedia articles selected by the Wikipedia 1.0 team for offline release on USB key, DVD and mobile phone. Articles were selected based on their assessed importance and quality, then article versions (revisionIDs) were chosen for trustworthiness (freedom from vandalism) using an adaptation of the WikiTrust algorithm. We would like to ask you to review the Romania articles and revisionIDs we have chosen. Selected articles are marked with a diamond symbol (♦) to the right of each article, and this symbol links to the selected version of each article. If you believe we have included or excluded articles inappropriately, please contact us at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8 with the details. You may wish to look at your WikiProject's articles with cleanup tags and try to improve any that need work; if you do, please give us the new revisionID at Wikipedia talk:Version 0.8. We would like to complete this consultation period by midnight UTC on Monday, October 11th. We have greatly streamlined the process since the Version 0.7 release, so we aim to have the collection ready for distribution by the end of October, 2010. As a result, we are planning to distribute the collection much more widely, while continuing to work with groups such as One Laptop per Child and Wikipedia for Schools to extend the reach of Wikipedia worldwide. Please help us, with your WikiProject's feedback! For the Wikipedia 1.0 editorial team, SelectionBot 23:33, 19 September 2010 (UTC) Two new stubsHiya, here are two brief articles which you might feel fall within your scope. Welshpool and Llanfair Light Railway steam locomotive number 19 & Remarul 16 Februarie. The second one I created using google translation of the (in Romanian) article - it needs some clean up by a bilingual Wikipedian. Railwayfan2005 (talk) 21:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC) Any comments would be appreciated. Nergaal (talk) 19:22, 25 September 2010 (UTC) WikiProject cleanup listingI have created together with Smallman12q a toolserver tool that shows a weekly-updated list of cleanup categories for WikiProjects, that can be used as a replacement for WolterBot and this WikiProject is among those that are already included (because it is a member of Category:WolterBot cleanup listing subscriptions). See the tool's wiki page, this project's listing in one big table or by categories and the index of WikiProjects. Svick (talk) 20:25, 7 November 2010 (UTC) WikiProject DaciaHi, WikiProject Dacia is looking for supporters, editors and collaborators for creating and better organizing information in articles related to Dacia and the history of Daco-Getae. If interested, PLEASE provide your support on the proposal page. Thanks!!--Codrinb (talk) 03:03, 11 December 2010 (UTC) Nomination of Dacian script for deletion The article Dacian script is being discussed concerning whether it is suitable for inclusion as an article according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted. The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dacian script until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on good quality evidence, and our policies and guidelines. Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article. -Anonimu (talk) 23:12, 7 January 2011 (UTC) Consistency in city/town namingFor cities, we have:
For towns:
I'm not sure if this is a problem, but if it is, for cities maybe we should do "city, Romania" and for towns, "town, county". This would require moves to Brad, Romania and Vulcan, Romania on the one hand, and to Amara, Ialomiţa, Deta, Timiş and Novaci, Gorj on the other. Thoughts? - Biruitorul Talk 16:37, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
PictureNot sure if it is the right place to ask but please add add the information who is the person in the painting above the two people on the picture: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:AntonescuYHoriaSimaOctubre1940.jpeg appears in the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Legionary_State should be added to the article too under the picture. Thanks - Nik — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.178.137.204 (talk) 20:24, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
Diacritics RfCDiscussion is underway regarding the use of diacritics in proper nouns from languages such as Romanian. Comments are welcome at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)/Diacritics RfC. Prolog (talk) 19:30, 6 July 2011 (UTC) How can I add a link to this page with some basic information for the public on The British School of Bucharest (BSB). There is already information there on 2 other international school: The American School of Bucharest (AISB) and The International British School of Bucharest (IBSB). Thank you any help you are able to offer. Mada 10:15, 8 August 2011 (UTC)Mada Liverpool vs. Dinamo Bucharest, European Cup Semi Final 1984Hi there, this article has just been deleted and the discussion surrounding its deletion can be found here. I would be interested to hear what your opinion is about this match's significance within Romanian football's history, and whether you can provide any refrences to bolster the article further. Best wishes, Jprw (talk) 17:40, 26 September 2011 (UTC) Romanian speaker neededGreetings all, I'm writing here to enlist the help of a Romanian speaking editor. Over the past few days, I and a few other editors over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Football hav been having trouble with Bad good dragosh98 (talk · contribs). All atempts to communicate with him in English have been ignored. I was hoping someone could explain to him in Romanian that many of his edits are disruptive, and that he may get himself blocked if the disruption persist. Your help is much appreciated. Sir Sputnik (talk) 14:10, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Template:Beceni, BuzăuYou may be interested in this deletion review. Thank you. Frietjes (talk) 16:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC) Expansion needed for Siguranţa stubI've only created the stub because Siguranta statului redirected to Securitate. I have no intention to further work on it in the near future, so if you have more information about the subject, please expand it. Thank you. Anonimu (talk) 20:37, 4 November 2011 (UTC) Romanian villagesThe general rule applicable in en:Wiki is that any settlement which can be localized on a map qualifies for an article. However, this rule has been unilaterally and heavy-handedly considered unapplicable to Romania and Moldova where the articles have been limited to communes, while villages are only accepted as paragraphs of the communes articles. I objected to this and opened a discussion on the matter in the Village Pump under the title Villages. Though the discussion reached no consensus, it has been swept under the carpet and archived, without any administrator drawing anz conclusion. That is why I am opening the discussion here, as it should be of more interest to WikiProject Romania. 1. While for other countries, for instance Germany, separate articles for even very small communities of around 30-50 inhabitants exist, for Romania articles for villages of several thousand inhabitants have been merged into the commune articles. There is no explanation why Wikipedia should consider Romanian villages less important than German ones. It casts an extremely negative image on Romania and Moldova. 2. Even more strangely, the rule does not apply to other countries in the region, such as Ukraine for instance. Therefore en:Wiki is now in the absurd situation in which a village in Southern Bucovina (Romania) does not qualify for a separate article, while a village in Northern Bucovina (Oblast Chervovtsy - Cernăuţi) can have a separate article. What makes these villages which have a similar history and culture so different, as to justify their being subject to different rules? Why is a village in Northern Bucovina more important than one in Southern Bucovina? 3.In Romania, communes are territorial units while villages are settlements. They are different entities. There is no reason to merge the articles on villages into paragraphs of communes. The history and culture of rural Romania is linked to the settlements which have existed for a long time before communes were established. The merging of the settlements with the administrative units presents a wrong image on the importance of the settlements in Romanian history and culture. 4. Villages are legal entities, which are established by laws, generally passed by the Parliament of Romania. If a village (not a commune) is important enough to justify a law, why is it not important enough to justify a separate article. I consider that the rule as presently applied for the villages of Romania and Moldova is arbitrary and discriminatory, that it reflects a negative view on the settlements of these countries, depicting them as less worthy than similar entities in other countries. I therefore suggest that the general rule of allowing separate articles for any geographically identifiable settlement should be applied to Romania and Moldova too. I do not consider that these two countries are in any way second degree countries whose settlements are less important and deserve less attention. Afil (talk) 20:50, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
RFC ar Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (use English)There has been a brewing issue at WP:RM over WP:HOCKEY recommendations and how they should be applied over WP:COMMONNAME and WP:UE. Basically the hockey recommendation is that Diacritics shall be applied to all player pages, where appropriate as for the languages of the nationalities of the players in question. This is in fact a mandate that does not allow consideration of any other policy on naming. I think we need to resolve the issue of which naming convention we use for ice hockey players. Is it the one for the names of everyone else based on existing policy and guidelines, or do we have a blanket exception for one project? Please go to Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(use_English)#RFC_on_hockey_names per Vegaswikian (talk) 00:53, 14 November 2011 (UTC) Mass page move requestA mass nomination to move articles about sportsmen based on diacritics in their name has been filed at Talk:Dominik_Halmosi#Requested_Move --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 03:50, 15 November 2011 (UTC) DobrujaEn:wiki uses the name Dobruja indicating Dobrudja as an alternative. I suggest that the main version should be Dobrudja and Dobruja as a secondary version.Afil (talk) 06:59, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
Question about Otopeni AirportAbout this picture: http://www.panoramio.com/photo/21966656
As the image description of the Flickr image says, it IS the int'l departures terminal. I know TAROM has its head office there (this says "International Departures Terminal, 2nd floor"). I assume the "TAROM" is there to mark the building as housing the head office So do we have a photo of it? WhisperToMe (talk) 22:45, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
A proposed change of article title is currently under discussion. Few comments so far. A bit more participation by other interested editors may be appropriate. RashersTierney (talk) 10:57, 2 December 2011 (UTC) Hello Romanian-speaking editors--please do us all a favor and have a look at this tenor's article, and at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ion Dacian. Please beef it up, and maybe combine it with the creation of National Operetta Theatre, for a double DYK. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:30, 16 December 2011 (UTC) Primary topicThere's a discussion at Talk:Dacia (disambiguation)#Primary topic over which article should be the Primary Topic for the name "Dacia". Comments welcome --Codrin.B (talk) 18:55, 15 January 2012 (UTC) There is a proposal and attempt to clarify, merge parts of and clean up the articles Romanians of Serbia and Vlachs of Serbia. If interested to help with the consolidation/clarification and/or if you want to make any suggestions, please do on there corresponding talk pages. Thanks. --Codrin.B (talk) 19:02, 25 January 2012 (UTC) Is this topic prominent enough to be included in the English Wikipedia? If you are widely familiar with this topic, please share your knowledge on the matter in the AfD which is currently taking place here. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 21:50, 27 January 2012 (UTC) WikiWomen's History MonthHi everyone. March is Women's History Month and I'm hoping a few folks here at WP:Romania will have interest in putting on events (on and off wiki) related to women's roles in Romania's history, society and culture. We've created an event page on English Wikipedia (please translate!) and I hope you'll find the inspiration to participate. These events can take place off wiki, like edit-a-thons, or on wiki, such as themes and translations. Please visit the page here: WikiWomen's History Month. Thanks for your consideration and I look forward to seeing events take place! SarahStierch (talk) 21:54, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
--Codrin.B (talk) 22:23, 3 February 2012 (UTC) Rewrite and salvage Flora of RomaniaI wonder if anyone be interested to contribute to the Flora of Romania article. It is currently proposed for deletion since in the current form it is just full of species. But I think it should be rewritten to focus on plant life and ecological zones in Romania instead. A good example is Flora of Ireland. Maybe some content can be taken from Romania#Natural environment and Protected areas of Romania to start with. But there is plenty of stuff to write about Romania's flora for sure. Romania is certainly lucky to have more diversity than many other countries. Thanks. --Codrin.B (talk) 16:49, 13 February 2012 (UTC) Companies and BucharestWhat sectors and quarters are these company head offices located in?
Thanks, WhisperToMe (talk) 22:01, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
If interested, provide your input at Commons:Deletion requests/Files in Category:Images from the Romanian Communism Online Photo Collection--Codrin.B (talk) 20:21, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
Romania-related categories for autotagging botsHi all! There are a number of WikiProject tagging bots out there which can help with the tedious task of adding WikiProject tags to the Romania-related article talk pages. As you know, having {{WikiProject Romania}} on relevant articles has many benefits, including the automatically generated Assessment table, Article alerts and so on. The mentioned bots usually operate based on a list of categories related to a certain topic. I compiled a list of Romania related categories and I would like to get the members' feedback/approval on this, before I submit it to the bots. Thanks!--Codrin.B (talk) 22:00, 14 February 2012 (UTC) Note: I used CatScan to get the list, but apparently it can only go 4 categories deep, resulting in just a subset of relevant categories. Anyone has some technical solutions for this?--Codrin.B (talk) 22:08, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
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