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Knickerbocker Building

I'm trying to find sources for a Knickerbocker Building that had to have been built prior to 1886 in New York City. You can see the discussion here. If someone(s) here can help with locating sources to use for this, that would be awesome. I don't know where to start with older buildings in New York. Thanks! ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 23:15, 23 February 2018 (UTC)

@Nihonjoe: Maybe this search may help, or you can use this website to search. These articles are all in the public domain. Without a specific location, I can't really help you, though based on that talk page discussion, I did find an article about a Knickerbocker flat at 5th Avenue and 14th Street. epicgenius (talk) 22:49, 25 February 2018 (UTC)

Sorry for any confusion. The discussion I linked to in my original post gave the location as 5th Ave and 14th St. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 03:26, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

According to Special Notices in The New York Times, such as this one, there was a "Knickerbocker Building Association" which was organized in early 1852, but whether it built a "Knickerbocker Building" is not clear, nor is where that building is. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:28, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Finally. In this listing in The New York Times, the National Bond Association of New York is said to have its headquarters in the Knickerbocker Building at Fifth Avenue and 14th Street. The listing is from 1891, but it's the first indication I've seen in the Times of the existence of a "Kickerbocker Building". I think the "Knickerbocker flat" on the southwest corner of 5th & 14th that Epicgenius found from 1884 is clearly the same place.

Note that the current building at that location dates from 1908 according to the city's GIS map [1], but it takes its info from the Department of Buildings, and is sometimes inaccurate. For instance, an older building which had nothing on file with the city and then did some work which required filing forms in 1908 might well be list as dating from 1908. Thus it is possible that the building which is there now (at 80 5th Avenue) could be the same building that was there in 1884. I'm looking into it further. The building is neither landmarked or in an historic district, so there may not be a lot available on it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:46, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Here's the building that's currently there: [2]. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:51, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Actually, at 17 floors, it's unlikely that the current building was built before 1884, I don't think that the building and elevator technology existed to go more than 6 or 7 stories at that time. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:06, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

By 1901, there was a "Knickerbocker Building" at Broadway and 38th Street [3]. I believe Knickerbocker Building (disambiguation) shows this as being designed by Stanford White. Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:01, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks, the one at 5th and 14th is the one I'm looking for. I appreciate the help. ···日本穣 · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 03:26, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

• OK, take a look at this, a "Knickerbocker Building" at 79-83 Fifth Avenue on the south-east corner of 16th Street. Although the blog is "Landmark Branding LLC", thee is no indication at the NYCLPC website or in the city's GIS map that this building is landmarked. The GIS map says that it was built in 1906. [4]
  Just speculating here, it's possible that the owners of the Knickerbocker Building at 5th & 14th built a larger replacement building at 5th & 16th in 1906 and then sold their old lot. The new owners of the old lot then built the current building at that location in 1908. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:00, 26 February 2018 (UTC)

Categories on Commons

Over on commons, categories "X in New York" are being converted to "X in New Yori (state), usually without any consideration given to the fact that a large number of the elements in the category are actually in New York City, and ought to be in categories "X in New York City". I've been converting quite a few, but it would be helpful if the members of this project would take a look and do some of the conversions, creating the "X in New York City" categories and moving the appropriate files and sub-cats into them. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:34, 27 February 2018 (UTC)

Image needed: Frederick Douglass Memorial

Frederick Douglass Memorial is unillustrated, if a project member happens to be nearby and can take and upload a photograph. Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 02:25, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

There's File:Frederick Douglas Circle (Half).JPG -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:09, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

... although there are apparently some copyright concerns for that memorial: c:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Frederick Douglass Statue (Close Up).JPG. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:13, 28 February 2018 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll add to the infobox for now. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 07:23, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

RfC at New York Life Insurance Company

Hello! Letting members of this WikiProject know that there's a request for comment at New York Life Insurance Company about whether it's appropriate to have a section in the article based on a government report. Your input would be most welcome! Thanks in advance, 16912 Rhiannon (Talk · COI) 15:26, 21 March 2018 (UTC)

Manhattan

Manhattan, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for a community good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. AIRcorn (talk) 09:31, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

Triborough Bridge approach stone towers

I think there are four pairs of stone towers for the approach to the Triborough Bridge, placed one mile away from the major bridge ramps in Manhattan, Queens, and the Bronx (this self published source says that there are two approaches in the Bronx, so I'll take that with a grain of salt). The Manhattan pair is on the FDR Drive near East 92nd Street, pictured here. The Queens pair is on Grand Central Parkway at 71st Street, pictured here. I can't find info online about the Bronx pairs of towers, or for the other two pairs for that matter. If someone has a resource regarding these stone towers, it would be greatly appreciated. epicgenius (talk) 17:22, 21 April 2018 (UTC)

RfC notification

There is an RfC at the Sean Hannity article talk page members of this project might interested in taking part in here. -- ψλ ● ✉ ✓ 17:19, 22 April 2018 (UTC)

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Black and white "unidentified location"

Because it's presently categorized as an unidentified location within New York state.

Does this image look like it's in Central Park to anybody else but me? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:08, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that's in Central Park. I don't know exactly where, though. It's definitely one of the transverses. epicgenius (talk) 14:16, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Not a transverse -- which I believe are all depressed below ground level -- somewhere along the loop, probably on the West Side. Can;t pinpoint the spot, though. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:48, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Looks like the cover of Abbey Road. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:49, 4 June 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the correction. I meant "definitely not one of the transverses" but it looks like I missed a key word. I'll defer to your judgment on this one. epicgenius (talk) 15:44, 5 June 2018 (UTC)

Metropolitan Opera

The following sentences don't make sense to me, nor is it explained by linked subjects. The Met sold the property to Weiler, who razed the Old Met and built a 40-story tower to provide a steady income for the opera company? How does that work? And then the tower was sold (again) by the Met Opera? In that case, I have a Brooklyn Bridge I'd be glad to sell-- over and over again.

"The theater was purchased by Jack D. Weiler[2] and despite a campaign to preserve the theater, it failed to obtain landmark status and the old Met was razed in 1967. It was replaced by a 40-story office tower, 1411 Broadway, intended to provide a steady income for the opera company. Designed by Irwin S. Chanin and completed in 1970, the building was later sold by the Metropolitan Opera and today it is owned by 1411 TrizecHahn-Swig LLC, a partnership of the TrizecHahn and Swig real estate companies." Texxas (talk) 03:49, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

What's the problem? The land and the tower are owned by different entities. The steady income the Met gets (or got) is (was) from the lease of the land to the owner of the tower. Such arrangements are not unusual. Rockefeller Center, for instance, stands on land owned by Columbia University, and the Chrysler Building stands on land owned by the Cooper Union. Beyond My Ken (talk) 06:23, 7 June 2018 (UTC)

Pelham Bay GA Nomination

I am hopeful that there is an editor who would be able to do the WP:GA review of Pelham Bay Park. epicgenius, who has nominated it, and I did not agree during a recent GA review. Because of his good faith efforts, and the long wait time he experience prior to that review, despite being the one to have failed it I would like to make a personal pitch for someone else to conduct the review, especially if they have expertise in the subject matter. This was my second GA review with epic and I have found him to be a responsive and thoughtful editor. If you're interested in doing the review but are unfamiliar with the process you could read the review process instructions. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 07:58, 11 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Should the immigration section include material about Trump's family separation policy?

 You are invited to join the discussion at talk:Donald Trump#RfC: Should the immigration section include material about Trump's family separation policy?. - MrX 🖋 11:53, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

@MrX: How is this RfC connected to the subject matter of New York City? — JFG ^talk 12:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

@JFG: The subject article was adopted by this wikiproject, thus the notification.- MrX 🖋 14:03, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I see, thx. — JFG ^talk 14:35, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Broadway (Manhattan)#Requested_move_20_June_2018

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Broadway (Manhattan)#Requested_move_20_June_2018. epicgenius (talk) 18:59, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Discussion of interest

Members of this project might be interested in this discussion. Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:53, 24 June 2018 (UTC)

Sunday July 29: Annual Wiki-Picnic @ Prospect Park

I wanted to invite WikiProject participants to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Brooklyn's green Prospect Park, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck. See details at Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Wiknic 2018.--Pharos (talk) 17:08, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Police Telephone lighted sign

Does anybody remember signs like this? It's an old lighted sign shown near police telephones. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 23:15, 5 August 2018 (UTC)

Is there a commons category that would be perfect for these types of signs?

Editing dispute

Folks at this project might like to weigh in on this. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:31, 21 August 2018 (UTC)

Another unidentified pic glut

I hope I'm not the only one who realizes that back in the Spring of 2018, there was another glut of new pics of the city posted by User:OceanAtoll that wound up in the "Unidentified locations in New York City" category, and some of them are actually in New Jersey. How many people here have been sorting them out rather than tagging them for deletion? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:23, 2 September 2018 (UTC)

RfC: Should there be an article on Emma Sulkowicz?

Hello! At Talk:Mattress Performance (Carry That Weight) § RfC, there is an RfC on the question "Should there be an article on Emma Sulkowicz?". You are being notified because the page is tagged as being of interest to this WikiProject. :) -sche (talk) 21:36, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Resource request on Al Jourgensen and Co.

Hello, I'm looking for two books which would be useful for the article Ministry (band) and others related to it.

• Connelly, Chris (2007). Concrete, Bulletproof, Invisible & Fried: My Life as A Revolting Cock. Philadelphia, PA: Shipwrecked Industries. ISBN 9780946719952. OCLC 123114150. Pages needed are 168-170, which relate to the recording of "Jesus Built My Hotrod" and Psalm 69.
• Robbins, Ira A., ed. (1985). The Rolling Stone Review. Rolling Stone Press. ISBN 0-684-18333-1. ISSN 8755-6324. OCLC 12182031. There are two (at least) pages needed: one referring to Al Jourgensen's first marriage, and another regarding his dispute with Arista Records and later work with Wax Trax! Records.

Thanks from Russia with love, Gleb95 (talk) 15:21, 15 September 2018 (UTC).

September Mystery Pics

To add to the glut of unidentified pictures, User:Rodrigo.Argenton has added a small group of pictures, mostly titled "500px (Fill in the number)." Many of them have geotags which are out in the Atlantic Ocean far south of the Town of East Hampton, New York. Can anybody give the real locations of these buildings and other sites? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 01:44, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

WTC in popular culture

There are today at least four articles dedicated to appearances of the WTC buildings in mass media works: One World Trade Center in popular culture, World Trade Center in popular culture, World Trade Center in film, List of cultural references to the September 11 attacks. These articles appear to contain mainly passing appearances of the buildings: establishing shots and visibility in the background of a shot, without any significance in the work other than "being there." In the film article especially, there are dozens of examples for which only the title of the film is provided, and the appearance cannot be verified short of watching the entire film with eagle-eyes. There are exceptions (such as 9/11 tribute films), and I'm not proposing to delete these articles, but I believe their scope should be drastically narrowed at least to works in which the building's significance in the work can be explained and is explained. If that means they are reduced to a fraction of their length, so be it. It is against Wikipedia policies to collect information into articles "indiscriminately," which I understand to mean "without regard for educational value." I do not see what is educational about a list of examples that merely say "the WTC was there." If you have opinions on this please add them here or at the film article's talk page. 24.7.14.87 (talk) 21:24, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

Max Rose (politician): deletion of notable biography

Max Rose is a major-party candidate (Democratic) in a highly competitive election for national office - U.S. Representative of Staten Island and southern Brooklyn. As you can tell from the article, his campaign has received national coverage. Rose has raised more than $3.4 million for his candidacy, and at present, is predicted to receive more than 45% of the vote. See FiveThirtyEight.com's analysis of this district. Rose's article is needed before the November 6 election by people who want more information about how to vote.

However, the article about Max Rose has been repeatedly deleted. Please advise. La comadreja _{formerly AFriedman} RESEARCH (talk) 20:02, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

I was very surprised to notice yesterday that there was no Wikipedia article on Max Rose, given that he's a major party candidate in a competitive district, so I helped write the current version of the article with La comadreja. I didn't know anything about Rose until yesterday, but he's garnered significant coverage in major international newspapers (multiple NY Times articles, article in the Guardian, article in Times of Israel) for months (and even a year). He clearly meets the notability criterion of "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article." It's absurd for there to be no article about him. Philepitta (talk) 21:12, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

• Comment on the Deletion Review here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:48, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

720,000 photos from the 1940s

FYI: "720,000 Newly Digitized Historic Photos Show Where New Yorkers Lived In The 1940s", Gothamist; "Browse DOF: Manhattan 1940s Tax Photos", New York City Municipal Archives. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 02:06, 8 November 2018 (UTC)

East 238th Street/Nereid Avenue Bridge

Does anybody here think that the East 238th Street or Nereid Avenue Viaduct would be worthy of an article? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 04:33, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

Wellll... I don;t really think so. Not particularly historic, no architect of note, certainly nothing terribly interesting to look at. I doubt it would survive a notability challenge. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2018 (UTC)

The use of "affluent" to describe places

An RfC on this subject has been opened here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:01, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

New York City housing crisis

Hello, I split off New York City housing crisis from Affordable housing and thought I would drop a note here, if anyone is interested. Page needs lots of work. I also intend to work on it over the next month or two. Thanks! Seahawk01 (talk) 02:27, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

I’m surprised the name is not shorter and wider. Like, “Housing in New York City” to include times and places of non-crisis, if they exist. Jim.henderson (talk) 23:15, 28 November 2018 (UTC)

Grand Central lede image

There is a discussion that may interest members of this WikiProject, concerning the lede image of Grand Central Terminal: [5] . ɱ (talk) · vbm · coi) 18:14, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

Discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New York City housing crisis

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Draft:El Grito de Sunset Park

I have an entire page done and drafted for "El Grito de Sunset Park" if someone could help me publish it for this WikiProject for NYC would be appreciated. Navigating wikipedia is extremely difficult for me not very hands on. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Itzwhatever (talk • contribs) 18:33, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

You submitted it, and the reviewer commented that the references don't support the article, so you need to fix that. Get some references from reliable sources which directly support the statements made in the draft article. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:57, 12 December 2018 (UTC)

Roosevelt Street

It is entirely fallacious to claim that the NYC draft riots of 1863 began at Roosevelt Street. The draft riots started on the morning of July 13th when the 9th District draft office at 3rd Ave and 46th street was attacked by members of the Black Joke fire engine company. The colored sailors boarding house on Roosevelt Street wasn't attacked until 5pm that day after main rioting took place at the draft office and the armory at 2 ave and 21st street. What kind of history is the NYC history project writing ... anyway. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.182.11.10 (talk) 03:38, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Do you have a reliable source that says that? We require reliable sources to add information to our articles. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:41, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, I see the confusion. The article, and the source it's based on, isn't saying that the violence started there, it's saying thet Roosevelt Street was the place where the (to be) rioters assembled before heading uptown. In fact, the violence began along the way, so I don't think it's wrong to say that the draft riots started there. I'll make it clearer, though. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:54, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Location maps in infoboxes of places in Manhattan

I see that for many articles of places in Manhattan, the location map in the infobox provides options for Manhattan/Lower Manhattan and New York state maps. Surely a New York City map would be more useful for readers, right? Showing a reader where the place is located in New York City is more useful than where the place is located in New York state, because the latter would simply show as a point located where NYC should be. I propose adding New York City as an option, or replacing the New York state option with the NYC map. But which is preferred?

In other words: which edit is more useful: adding New York City as a map or replacing the New York state map with the New York City map?

Many thanks. feminist (talk) 13:26, 20 January 2019 (UTC)

@Feminist: Personally I'd prefer adding NYC as a map - more maps to choose from. However, there is a third option, adding an interactive MapFrame map. This allows the user to zoom in or out to different levels of specificity. The default zoom level can be set manually in {{maplink}}, as can the map width and height. However, I've noticed that a zoom level of 9 is suitable for a city view, and a zoom level of 11 is suitable for a borough view. And at a zoom level of 14, you can make out individual streets, etc.

This also works for every other locality in the world, and isn't constrained by whether a location map exists for that location. epicgenius (talk) 20:30, 21 January 2019 (UTC)

Buzz Aldrin in project scope?

Why would Buzz Aldrin be in this project's scope? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 15:19, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

No idea. I've removed it. Beyond My Ken (talk) 02:01, 31 January 2019 (UTC)

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Grant Square geographic anomaly

The commons description of Grant Square in Brooklyn describes it as being at Bedford and Rogers Avenues between Dean and Bergen Streets in Crown Heights. However, the Washington Temple Church of God in Christ (former Loew's Theater) is on the northwest corner of Bergen Street and Bedford Avenue which is said to be in Bedford-Stuyvesant, yet it's directly across Bedford Avenue from the "Grant Gore." So wouldn't that mean Grant Square is in both Bed-Stuy and Crown Heights? I need to know this, because I took a bunch of pictures of both sites back in October 2018. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 15:32, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

Well:

• As I'm sure you know, neighborhood boundaries in NYC aren't officially set, they are determined by usage;
• Google Maps shows the boundary between Bed-Stuy and Crown Heights at Atlantic Avenue, a few blocks north of Grant Square, putting the square in Crown Heights;
• The Encyclopedia of New York City lists the same boundary as Google Maps;
• However, The Neighborhoods of Brooklyn shows the boundary at Park Place, putting the square (just) in Bed-Stuy;
• Then again, the AIA Guide to New York City uses the Atlantic Avenue border;
• The NYCLPC's Crown Heights North Historic District has a northern boundary which is midblock south of Atlantic Avenue, meaning it, too, recognizes those blocks as being part of Crown Heights. (Grant Square itself is not part of the district, but the building at the southeast corner of Dean and Rogers, confusingly called the "Fort Greene Grant Square Center", even though it's nowhere near Fort Greene, is in the district);
• The website of the Washington Temple Church of God in Christ says it is "Located in the Crown Heights section of Brooklyn".

All-in-all, the usage appears to be very much on the side of Grant Square being in Crown Heights and not in Bed-Stuy - which brings up the question, where did you see the C.O.G.I.C described as being in Bed-Stuy? Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:12, 12 January 2019 (UTC)

JimHenderson's picture of the church. I have two of my own coming. Do you know what else I noticed? Google Maps also shows the western border of Crown Heights as being along Washington Avenue, which would place both Studebaker Buildings (Bedford Avenue and Sterling Place, as well as Dean Street) as being in Crown Heights! ---------User:DanTD (talk) 00:14, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

@Jim.henderson: Jim often takes his photos while on group bicycle rides, maybe he didn't realize he had crossed over a neighborhood boundary.

The NYCLPC clearly describes the Studebaker Building on Bedford as in Crown Heights. The other one isn't a landmark, but a lot of sites describe it as being in Crown Heights as well [6] -- and by the definitions of pretty most all of the sources above too. It's really too far south to be in Bed-Stuy, so I wonder why that designation got started? Beyond My Ken (talk) 01:45, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I believe it was the former Franklin Shuttle Station next door. Well, since both are officially in Crown Heights, we really need better names for both of them now. ----------User:DanTD (talk) 02:12, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

I shan’t claim to know; sometimes I’m not even sure whether I’ve crossed into Queens. Jim.henderson (talk) 03:16, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

Don't you see the "You are now leaving Brooklyn - Fugeddabouddit" signs? Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:57, 13 January 2019 (UTC)

In his defense, those signs can't be at every street that crosses the Brooklyn-Queens line. As far as the Studebaker Buildings, since both are officially considered to be in Crown Heights, how about renaming the gallery for the landmark "Studebaker Building (Bedford Avenue, Brooklyn)," and I'll rename the other one "Studebaker Building (Dean Street, Brooklyn)?" I'll even correct Dean Street (BMT Franklin Avenue Line).---------User:DanTD (talk) 19:20, 8 March 2019 (UTC)

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Help with a park article?

Hi! I didn't know if anyone was willing to work on a park article or not - a student of mine created the article on St. James Park (Bronx). The class ends this week and I'm not entirely sure if they will be back on to edit it, but at the present it lacks information and sourcing to establish how it's notable. I'm going to try to do as much as I can for it, but I'm admittedly kind of swamped with other classes so I wanted to see if anyone would be interested in this. 15:36, 7 May 2019 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Naming conventions (US stations)/NYC Subway RfC

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Rent control changes to be passed by the Legislature

I am not an expert on this, but the changes that are set to be passed are drastic and need coverage on wikipedia. The article Rent control in New York needs to cover this and could use some work done, but I am no expert on this. Any thoughts? Thanks.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 00:03, 13 June 2019 (UTC)

Midtown Manhattan and Lower Manhattan to be nominated for GA status

I plan to nominate Midtown Manhattan and Lower Manhattan for GA status soon. Comments, suggestions or other input are very welcome! -- Happypillsjr ✉ 17:16, 14 June 2019 (UTC)

Requested move

There is a requested move at Talk:WTC Cortlandt (IRT Broadway–Seventh Avenue Line) that could benefit from your opinions. Please come and help out. Paine Ellsworth, ed. ^put'r there  16:12, 16 June 2019 (UTC)

Proposed renaming - Community Boards to Community District

I would like to suggest the renaming of the Community Boards of New York City category to Community Districts of New York City. The rationale is that the community district is the administrative unit, while the community board is the appointed representative of said district. The rationale also applies to the individual community district articles, such as Brooklyn Community Board 2, which should also be renamed (i.e. Brooklyn Community District 2). --HugoHelp (talk) 22:08, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

This is an interesting idea. My whole life people have always called them "Community Boards", so I'm somewhat inclined to think this is a case of WP:COMMON and a valid use of metonymy like when "the Kremlin" refers to the Russian government. However, I was pretty impressed to see the in-depth portal for Community District Profiles on NYC.gov, so maybe that term is gaining more currency.--Pharos (talk) 23:10, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

NYC.GOV uses "community boards" consistently. Searches on "community district" bring results pointing to "community board" articles. No change in current usage is indicated. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:21, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

WikiProject NYC on the radio + Sunday annual wiki-picnic

I wanted to share this Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism radio piece about WikiProject New York City, interviewing myself as well as @Jim.henderson: and @Adjoajo:. I hope we can highlight more work from other WikiProject New YC members as other interview opportunities come up. Additionally, I would like to invite all you good members of the WikiProject to Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/Wiknic 2019 Sunday on Roosevelt Island, with potluck, tacos, and a great view of the first article I ever wrote, U Thant Island!--Pharos (talk) 17:30, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Request for information on WP1.0 web tool

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We'd like to collect information on how the current tool is used by....you! How do you yourself and the other maintainers of your project use the web tool? Which of its features do you need? How frequently do you use these features? And what features is the tool missing that would be useful to you? We have collected all of these questions at this Google form where you can leave your response. Walkerma (talk) 04:24, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Help with some Staten Island geography

Can anyone involved in this Wikiproject have a look at the historical map on this article Staten Island Quarantine War and try to pinpoint the historical location of this hospital? AugusteBlanqui (talk) 10:45, 15 November 2019 (UTC)

Staten Island quarantine hospital

It's in Tompkinsville. Roughly, the top left corner of the grounds is now Bay Street at Victory Boulevard, the top right corner is the new Richmond County Courthouse. Bay Street Landing (housing) and the Lighthouse Museum are now along the waterfront. Station1 (talk) 08:37, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

Thanks!!AugusteBlanqui (talk) 13:07, 16 November 2019 (UTC)

The mandarin duck has an article now

I have mixed feelings about having done this, but the coverage of the Central Park mandarin duck has, against all odds, managed to persist for 14 months, with abundant national and international coverage so I gave in and here we are: Mandarin Patinkin. Would be happy to have others add to it if there are sources I've missed. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 03:23, 7 December 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Coney Island#Whats this article about? The neighborhood or the peninsula?

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Coney Island#Whats this article about? The neighborhood or the peninsula?. epicgenius (talk) 05:32, 28 December 2019 (UTC)

Peggy Siegal

I created a (currently) brief new draft article for media promoter and/or socialite Peggy Siegal. Want to help?

• Draft: Peggy Siegal

—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 06:52, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

Categorizing New York-related images on Commons

As of this writing the following Commons categories are nearly empty, but a few challenging-to-identify images remain. Do any knowledgeable editors recognize these? Thanks in advance for your help.

• commons:Category:New York
• commons:Category:New York (state)
• commons:Category:NYC
• commons:Category:New York City
• commons:Category:Manhattan, New York City -- DanielPenfield (talk) 00:46, 13 January 2020 (UTC)

Unfortunately, it seems an editor has moved several images to the crowded Commons:Category:Buildings in New York City and Commons:Category:Buildings in Manhattan, New York City categories which runs contrary to the modularity principle (and kicks the can down the road). In the event someone else would like to take a try, here are the images in question:

Category:New York

Identified

West Village feel Identified as Commons:Category:Bedford Avenue (Brooklyn) Juice bar and açai bowls sign at left, parking garage at left. Have plugged "119" (from center building) into 1st through 20th Streets, several streets in West Village in Google Street View, but nothing matches Identified as Commons:Category:Bedford Avenue (Brooklyn) Same street as left Identified as Commons:Category:Bedford Avenue (Brooklyn) Same street as left Identified as Commons:Category:Bedford Avenue (Brooklyn) Similar to ring at 121-137 East 57th Street, but this is metal/plexiglass. Taken 48 seconds before File:500px photo (211407755).jpeg. Apple Store on Fifth Avenue? Identified as Commons:Category:Apple Store, 5th Avenue cube entrance Very similar to looking up at 111 Wall Street from Front Street, but number of columns and number of windows between columns don't match Identified as Commons:Category:One Chase Manhattan Plaza There is a small park left of center with a substantial monument in it that I hope triggers someone's memory East Village per Epicgenius

• 
  Can't read street number--is it 132? 152? Lower 8th Avenue feel
• 
  I have no idea but I hope the pattern on the building triggers someone's memory
• 
  End of Wikis Take Manhattan event in 2008. User:Pharos appears at center
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• 
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  Look and feel of Financial District
• 
  Coordinates indicate Chambers Street, but I can't see building featuring both the notched cornice and the statue looking down using Google Street View
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  Coordinates indicate near High Line at 23rd Street. Zoomed to 135mm, so I assume it's several blocks away. Photos from same photographer, same date, similar times indicate photographer was walking northward on the High Line from Washington Street
• 
  I have no idea

-- DanielPenfield (talk) 15:25, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

I also often kick a can from an overcrowded or clearly incorrect road, and down a narrower one, intending to kick it further when I get to diffusing that road a few days or months later. Sometimes the place to where I kick it is completely unfamiliar to me, so I'm only hoping someone who knows that place will handle it someday. It's a never ending process; categories now having half a dozen pictures may soon have hundreds and beg for splitting. Jim.henderson (talk) 16:53, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Since this was obviously a group request, I would have expected the courtesy of allowing editors (who may not see this request for days or weeks) the chance to identify each image in this relatively small set. Furthermore, I'd expect File:Desenfoque (141668967).jpeg, File:Car Window (46897770).jpeg, and File:500px photo (205553011).jpeg to not be categorized as "Buildings in" under the principle of least astonishment. BTW, do you recognize File:Fog City (133449823).jpeg? It strikes me as the kind of image whose place you've been able to identify in short order in the past. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 19:52, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

First row is Bedford Ave, Brooklyn. Only one I haven't categorized is this one, which is probably one of the streets right around there, but not Bedford Ave itself. BTW, DanielPenfield, why is is running against the modularity principle? If a picture primarily depicts a building, and we know it's in NYC, it should certainly be moved from NYC to buildings in NYC. The only time that's a problem is if it's depicting something else, too. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:30, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

Good catch! Regarding the categorization principles: I see--the modularity principle is essentially a vaguely-worded restatement of COM:OVERCAT. Well, I was hoping that there would be a principle that would express the goal of ultimately placing every image in leaf categories, but apparently there isn't one. Regardless, moving the images one level down in the category system basically thwarted my original request as pretty much nobody is going to track them down once they've been lost in the 400+ image Commons:Category:Buildings in New York City or 400+ image Commons:Category:Buildings in Manhattan, New York City. In other words, I'd expect editors to give others the chance to identify them more precisely in the coming days and weeks instead of unilaterally burying them in overpopulated categories. Also the fact that File:Sharp Lines (158011215).jpeg, File:Nuevas Alturas (141668059).jpeg, and File:Desenfoque (141668967).jpeg have found significantly more specific categories since my original request indicates that sweeping them under already-overcrowded category rugs was premature. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 19:52, 16 January 2020 (UTC)

As the aforementioned editor who moved the images to the "Buildings in..." categories, I don't think this is necessarily is a problem. Yes, it would get lost in the slightly-less-vague parent categories, but these would also need diffusion as well. Yeah, the can has been kicked down the road, but like Jim said, it's a narrower road than before. epicgenius (talk) 19:43, 17 January 2020 (UTC)

I'm definitely sure that File:Fog City (133449823).jpeg is of East Village, looking west from the roof of University Settlement, on 14th Street east of Avenue B. There are too many similarities, I just didn't notice them because I didn't realize that there is now a development in front of what originally seemed like a brick wall (East Side Community High School). File:Slanted Apartments (230663369).jpeg is on 10th Avenue and 18th Street. epicgenius (talk) 02:34, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

I think I understand what you mean, Daniel. It's not that you disagree that narrowing the category by one level isn't a useful edit (that seems uncontroversial), but that you had set up this identification project presuming the files would remain in those upper level categories until fully identified. That makes sense, but I think just displaying the images here and asking for identification is probably the best way (what's happening now). — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:05, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites and Jim.henderson: I think that for this project, we should create a dedicated page similar to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject New York City Public Transportation/Unidentified locations. There are a lot more unidentified images in the broader NYC WikiProject. epicgenius (talk) 14:56, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

Collapsing the identified images, and combining the others since the identification seems more relevant than which category they started in. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:01, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

@Rhododendrites: It's not that you disagree that narrowing the category by one level isn't a useful edit If I had asked someone to go through 1000 images and sort them into buildings, people, and other, narrowing by one level sounds reasonable. However, for a "project" of 16 images, if you can't get them really close to their ultimate leaf categories, I'm not really sure why you would think that's constructive editing. Also, isn't it a bit narcissistic to presume that nobody else can make a more precise categorization than you, so you're just going to "move it one level and claim victory"? I think just displaying the images here and asking for identification is probably the best way And the most labor-intensive for me, coincidentally. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 01:32, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Commons categorization certainly is a mess, in part because it has to be hierarchical, in a world that is not. Many picture sites use a more atomic, non-hierarchical system of multiple hashtags or similar short simple descriptors intended for use with a text search. There's no need to identify just a few categories that are relevant to the search at hand, or to see all the pictures that have a particular tag. Maybe Commons should try to go that way, either with or without the help of Wikidata. Presumbably it would be an addition rather than a replacement for categories, which of course means it's a complication to an already complex system of describing pictures. Obviously the question goes far beyond the world's most wonderful city or even geographical entities in general, which I guess makes it a big question of wikipolitics. Do you think there will be enough interest to put it on the agenda for Wednesday's Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC/January 2020? Jim.henderson (talk) 06:57, 18 January 2020 (UTC)

My impression is that what you're describing is exactly COM:DEPICTS which is too difficult for most editors to use, given their struggles with the present Commons categorization system, IMHO. BTW, if you want to propose (in your meetup) something both useful and practicable to implement in short order, a leading candidate is auto-identification of black and white versus color images. For example, Commons:File:Fog City (133449823).jpeg is was categorized as Commons:Category:Black and white photographs of skylines of Manhattan, New York City, yet my image editing software reports nonzero-height red, green, and blue histograms for it. A clever implementer should be able to autoparse the JFIF tags in the JPEG, determine whether chrominance channels are present, and if they are, whether they contain nonzero pixel values. It looks like a similar approach could be used for PNG. A more advanced feature would be to distinguish between black and white, color, and sepia/blue-tinted monochrome images. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 01:32, 19 January 2020 (UTC)

Automatic sorting out of B&W certainly ought to be easy; its usefulness is what I somewhat doubt. As for COM:DEPICTS being about simple tagging, I am surprised to agree after a moment's thought. I need more serious thinking to figure how that process might be improved. Anyway, I'll be meeting some of my fellow NYC photo wranglers less than an hour from now, and chat about this rather than present formally to dozens an idea that's far from fully baked. Jim.henderson (talk) 23:13, 22 January 2020 (UTC)

Judge Judy GAR

Judy Sheindlin, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Nole (chat·edits) 21:35, 25 February 2020 (UTC)

Requesting map of Assembly districts from the 1920s

Hello,

I have been working on old municipal elections for a while, particularly of the 1920s and 1930s, and would like to have maps of the Assembly districts from that time. I already have the boundaries from the 1919 World Almanac here (for those inclined, the individual election district boundaries can be found in the 1918 Almanac here; unfortunately upstate districts, which from what I could gather were drawn by the relevant county prior to the 1960s, are not found in either of them), but given my ignorance of the streets outside of Manhattan as well as how to make complicated shapes in SVG I would be much obliged if someone could make the map. If you make the map in SVG, please annotate which district is which in the source code as I use a text editor to manipulate vector graphics. (I also have a source for aldermanic districts from this time, but it's several days of the Brooklyn Daily Eagle that is lower resolution, and is less important.)

Thanks for your help. A barnstar awaits the person who takes me up on this.

– John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 02:58, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

@John M Wolfson: Have you tried asking Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop? They may be much better equipped to help. epicgenius (talk) 22:48, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I have not, but will do so. Thank you for the guidance! – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 22:53, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

• Unfortunately, I have not received a response from the maps lab. I have maps for all five boroughs (Manhattan, the Bronx, Brooklyn, Queens, and Richmond/Staten Island), and was wondering if anyone could use something like cage transform in GIMP/Photoshop to merge them into a single citywide map. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 16:32, 20 March 2020 (UTC)

• I have completed the map here. Cleanup, adding the Jamaica Bay islands, and conversion to SVG would be nice, but the map is pretty much done at this point. – John M Wolfson (talk • contribs) 19:25, 21 March 2020 (UTC)

Unidentified location in NYC

Resolved

 – Resolved the location problem (but we still need an "Unidentified locations" subpage) epicgenius (talk) 17:59, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Nothing here sticks out to me, but perhaps someone else can take a look? epicgenius (talk) 20:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

FWIW, I think it would be good to have an "Unidentified locations" subpage of this wikiproject.

In the meantime, does anyone with a good eye know where File:Closed playground in New York City on April 1st, 2020.jpg might be? All I know is that I've never seen this type of relatively-new play equipment, and it feels like one of the outer boroughs (or Upper Manhattan) with medium-density residential buildings. The big apartment building, the slanted structure at the top left corner, and the length of the name on the sign might also be a clue (it is about 5 or 6 letters and is one of these basketball facilities). Unfortunately, this is the only edit by Rockyman2021 and they have not edited since this upload. epicgenius (talk) 20:46, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

"Let's enhance the NYC Parks sign off in the left background. Enhance some more. Enhance!" ... didn't work. :) Agree that an unidentified locations section would be good. For this one, regardless, I have to think we have some better images depicting a similar subject that could be used, with better information available for them, too... — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:29, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Rhododendrites, I agree with your second point. The only other signs I found on this topic were File:Closed playing courts at Golconda Playground due to CoronaVirus.jpg and your pictures of a Brooklyn playground closed due to the virus (looks like South Brooklyn but I'm not sure). epicgenius (talk) 22:30, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Hmmm. Thought I saw more. Mine probably aren't going to be ideal, either, since I didn't really get much of the actual playground in the shot. :) I'll look around a bit later, I guess. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 23:00, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Rhododendrites, apparently AntiCompositeNumber found the location of this playground. It is Bowne Playground in Flushing, Queens. epicgenius (talk) 17:57, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

List of middle schools?

I noticed that there is List of public elementary schools in New York City and List of high schools in New York City, but there is no corresponding article for middle schools. Is there a reason for this? I'm not from the area so I know nothing about the topic.—Naddruf (talk ~ contribs) 23:51, 16 April 2020 (UTC)

Naddruf, it's really about the preferences of editors. I don't think anyone has been inclined to create a middle schools list yet, but you can do so if you wish. There is this for public middle schools. epicgenius (talk) 00:10, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

NYPD and race

While working on George Floyd protests in New York City and going through some of the sources and related Wikipedia articles, it's occurring to me that Wikipedia could really use an article about "NYPD and race". We do have New York City Police Department corruption and misconduct, but it's mainly a long list. What would be better would be not just spinning out race-based material from that page, but thoughtful organization and history. There's certainly enough sources. Not something I'll have time to work on in the near future, but figured I'd put it here in case it other people have the "wait, we don't have that?" reaction that I did. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:48, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

GAR notice

FinMkt, an article that you or your project may be interested in, has been nominated for an individual good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Eddie891 ^Talk _Work 14:32, 16 June 2020 (UTC)

Assessment section, "Popular pages"

Greetings, fyi I added wiklink to "Popular pages" - monthly bot, now working for this WP. JoeNMLC (talk) 17:09, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Need help with my article - Atif Afzal (composer)

Hi,

I am Atif Afzal, a music composer for films. Originally from India, I am now based in New York. I would like my page to be created. I did some research and found out that I qualify for Wikipedia inclusion under WP:MUSICBIO and WP:COMPOSER.

• I have been the subject of multiple, non-trivial, notable published works with references that comply WP:SIGCOV and WP:RS –

1. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/marathi/music/shreyas-welcomes-bajis-return/articleshow/45777452.cms – The Times of India

2. https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2fglyx - Dailymotion

3. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/atif-afzal-felt-bad-when-my-movie-with-salman-khan-got-shelved/articleshow/49581450.cms - – The Times of India

4. https://www.thestatesman.com/tag/atif-afzal - The Statesman (India)

5. https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/composing-music-for-global-films-is-exciting-atif-afzal-117080200117_1.html – Business Standard

6. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OdgUpLmtyM – Adgully.com

7. https://urbanasian.com/featured/2015/02/abhijeet-sawant-joins-hands-with-bollywood-music-director-atif-afzal-for-baji/ - Urban Asian

8. https://in.news.yahoo.com/prague-music-review-093313942.html – Yahoo! News

9. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/music/news/shalmali-kholgade-is-music-director-atif-afzals-lucky-mascot/articleshow/46041513.cms – The Times of India

10. https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/marathi/music/atif-afzal-sings-for-shreyas/articleshow/45533555.cms - – The Times of India

11. https://www.radioandmusic.com/entertainment/editorial/news/atif-afzal-lends-his-vocals-first-marathi-track-141215# - Radio and Music

12. https://www.glamsham.com/bollywood/news/atif-afzal-ready-to-fire-with-monsoon-shootout/amp/ - Glamsham.com

• I have had my albums on national music charts – https://open.spotify.com/search/atif%20afzal; https://www.jiosaavn.com/artist/atif-afzal-songs/IpND0zhNQgE_; https://music.apple.com/in/artist/atif-afzal/678929809; https://play.google.com/store/music/artist/Atif_Afzal?id=Abs4elwrrcqez5gt4neql6anacy&hl=en; https://gaana.com/artist/atif-afzal

• I have my albums released on a major record label – My movies Prague (2013 film) released on Universal Music Group and Times Music, Baji (film) released on Zee Music Company, Monsoon Shootout released on Saregama

• I has become one of the most prominent representatives of a notable style - World Music with notable work in Europe, India and the USA – https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5065411/; https://www.business-standard.com/article/news-ians/composing-music-for-global-films-is-exciting-atif-afzal-117080200117_1.html

• I have been nominated for a major music award – Mirchi Music Awards (Marathi) - https://www.radiomirchi.com/mma2013/marathi/nomination.html

• I have been a featured subject of a substantial broadcast segment on a national radio – Radio Mirchi - https://soundcloud.com/atif-afzal/radio-mirchi-21-sep-atif-afzal

• I have multiple credits for writing music for notable compositions – https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5065411/

You can find print newspaper/music magazines articles on my website - http://www.atifafzal.com/press/?mode=list. My name appears on multiple Wikipedia pages -

• Pune 52
• Prague (2013 film)
• Baji (film)
• Monsoon Shootout
• Abhijeet Sawant
• List of songs recorded by Shalmali Kholgade
• List of songs recorded by Neha Kakkar
• Bela Shende
• Chinmayi discography

I would be glad if someone can help me create an article for me. I have also posted a request here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requested_articles/music#Composer&nbsp

AAComposer (talk) 21:27, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

There are responses to this query at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#Need help with my article which may be of interest. Richard3120 (talk) 23:32, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you all for your suggestions. Taking some advice, I have created an article as per WP:AFC and have submitted here - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Atif_Afzal_(music_composer). Could someone please review it and expand/edit the article. I have kept it neutral, but please correct if something is wrong. --AAComposer (talk) 00:26, 23 July 2020 (UTC)

Speedy renaming to Category:Commissioners of of Health of New York City

I have submitted the category Category:Commissioners of the New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene for speed renaming to Category:Commissioners of Health of the City of New York. This would make the category consistent with the main article per WP:C2D. A notice has been placed on the category page. --HugoHelp (talk) 14:41, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Merger discussion for Bill T. Jones/Arnie Zane Dance Company and Talk:New York Live Arts#Merger proposal

Articles that you have been involved in editing—Bill T. Jones/Arnie Zane Dance Company and Talk:New York Live Arts#Merger proposal—have been proposed for merging with another article. If you are interested, please participate in the merger discussion. Thank you. StarM 22:08, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

OK, either this template doesn't work, or I did it wrong. Or both. Anyway, would love this project's input on this discussion I just started between the two organizations that merged to form New York Live Arts. Thank you. StarM 22:08, 4 June 2020 (UTC)

@Star Mississippi: Both the Bill T. Jones/Arnie Zane Dance Company and Dance Theatre Workshop (the predecessor to New York Live Arts) have a long history independent from each other. I recognize that the company and NYLA have a strong relationship now, but they are separate, evolving entities. Megs (talk) 20:05, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@Megs: I guess the latter was my question, are they still separate evolving entities, or are they now one? Thanks for the input StarM 21:10, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Photo request

Resolved

The gay bar Therapy is unlikely to reopen. If you find yourself in Hell's Kitchen and would be willing to snap a photo of the building's exterior, that'd be helpful for illustrating the Wikipedia article. Thanks! --Another Believer _(Talk) 22:36, 29 July 2020 (UTC)

We need a better process for Wikipedia:Requested pictures. This case was a bit more complicated because the Wikidata item had no coordinates or street address, hence did not appear on WikShootMe or Commons App. I live nearby and walked down that street a couple weeks ago, unknowing. WD now has rough coordinates, and I expect to get a pic within a few days. Jim.henderson (talk) 11:45, 1 August 2020 (UTC)

Jim.henderson, Thank you so much! Please to see the article illustrated now. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:08, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

Cbs2 HQ NYC.jpeg

Among the hundreds of photos needing categories in Commons:Category:Unidentified locations in New York City is now this photo, purported to have been "Cbs2 HQ" and "WCBS-TV studios" at the time. It seems to be a protrusion from a larger building, of a different design, on a well-travelled street. It has banners for The Early Show and The CBS Evening News with Katie Couric, and the camera date is April 2007. I've followed Black Rock (CBS HQ) and CBS Broadcast Center each all the way around the block on Google Street View and still couldn't find it, and they both look different than the big building in this photo anyway. What and where is this thing? --Closeapple (talk) 20:16, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

The style of the facade reminds me of the "new Rockefeller Center" on the west side of 6th Avenue, a little south of Black Rock. Tomorrow if weather is good I intend to walk on over there and try to identify it. Jim.henderson (talk) 14:43, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

It's the General Motors building. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:06, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

True; see Google Street view May 2009. Cartier moved in there between 2011 and 2013. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:11, 22 July 2020 (UTC)

So, should this image be liberated from "Unidentified …" and be categorized in Commons:Category:General Motors Building (Manhattan)? -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:28, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

 Done — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 03:54, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

Drat, I see that place frequently and should have identified it easily. All done. Jim.henderson (talk) 16:10, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

And with coordinates, no less. Thanks! --Closeapple (talk) 03:59, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Conversion of subprojects to taskforces

Resolved

Greetings to all, I recently noticed that WikiProject Chinese in New York City and WikiProject City University of New York are no longer active. I'm thinking it makes sense to transistion these into WPNYC as taskforces where all project members here can more easily maintain them, what does everyone else think?

I've already been helping in a few cases (e.g. WT:NY) to transition inactive WikiProjects to taskforces; so I'm willing to do the template sandbox work and write up any RM/TR or other requests needed if there is a consensus in favor.

Please be patient regarding responses; I may may be able to reply the next day, but it might also be a week depending on what's going on, thanks. (please ping on reply)

𝒬𝔔 01:09, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

Neutral ping to project creators (epicgenius—Megs) to offer the opportunity for input.

𝒬𝔔 22:52, 26 July 2020 (UTC)

@Quantocius Quantotius: Hi! While WikiProject CUNY is somewhat inactive on wiki, it's been very active at CUNY. I request that this remains a separate project. Its primary focus is to connect Wikipedians at CUNY, and not to edit article about CUNY or the surrounding areas. For this reason, it might make sense to remove it as a subgroup of WikiProject NYC. Megs (talk) 19:59, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

@Megs: Thanks for your reply. I'm still kind of finding my way around here and WPCUNY is the first WikiProject I've run across that is primarily about off-wiki activity; in fact I didn't even know there were any WikiProjects that had an off-wiki focus.

In any event, I have two thoughts about this. First, the idea behind a TASKFORCE is that it reduces bureaucratic overhead so in this case WPNYC would just start providing much of the procedural and technical infrastructure, but the taskforce could still have it's own discussions and pages, in fact there is no need to move any pages at all and indeed with the massive WikiProject New York merger we did not do so, just in case that is your primary concern. Second, it would be wrong to convert a project to a taskforce over the objection of its members, therefore as long as an objection remains WPCUNY should remain separate.

To your other point I'm unclear all the steps it would take to remove WPNYC as a parent project (although I can do the research if you feel strongly about this), it would most likely have to start with a discussion here, presumably in a separate thread to reduce confusion. But there's also other pages that document the larger WikiProject organizational scheme and some of those would need to be modified as well. It might be best to ask at WT:Council to get a faster reply as I'm not an everyday editor. On the note, it may be tricky for me to reply again for a few days, but I will try to get back to you by the weekend if possible.

𝒬𝔔 22:56, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

Just noting for the record that WikiProject Chinese in New York City (only) has been converted into a task-force and following bot runs we are at   Y Merger complete. I've decided to leave the pages in place for now to allow an easier spin out later if desired. Given the objection above WikiProject City University of New York will remain separate for the time being.

𝒬𝔔 22:59, 4 September 2020 (UTC)

Another photo request

Similar to above, Boxers NYC Washington Heights needs an image if any project members can help. Thanks, ---Another Believer _(Talk) 13:23, 5 October 2020 (UTC)

Independence Manor

Independence Manor needs some tlc, and would seem worthy of it. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 20:59, 14 October 2020 (UTC)

perhaps I'm missing something obvious, but I find no indication this is a notable building. StarM 00:07, 15 October 2020 (UTC)

Photo request: Women's Rights Pioneers Monument

Requesting photograph(s) for Women's Rights Pioneers Monument. ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:26, 16 October 2020 (UTC)

@Another Believer: I put a {{Photo requested}} on the talk page.

𝒬𝔔 16:41, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

Quantocius Quantotius, Thanks! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:42, 25 October 2020 (UTC)

New York Times articles (pre 1970's)

Hello! I am doing research on a topic that is discussed in older New York Times articles (pre 1970's). I can see some of the preview text and the date, but I cannot see the author's name. It seems that only current subscribers can see the author's name. Are there editors who are NYT subscribers that can look up the author information? This must be a frequent problem. The Times is such a valuable resource for citation. Thank you!Thriley (talk) 08:13, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

@Thriley: If you let me know which articles to check, I can help you out with this.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 11:09, 27 October 2020 (UTC)

Thriley, what Times articles are you looking at? Usually, articles before the 1970s don't have bylines, but I or Kew Gardens can confirm this. epicgenius (talk) 19:05, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Epigenius: I think you might be confusing the New York Times with Time magazine. In the modern era, the majority of NYT articles have had bylines. It was Time which never had bylines for anything from its creation in the 1920's until they changed their policy relatively recently (70's? 80's? 90's?). Beyond My Ken (talk) 00:38, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Beyond My Ken, I should probably clarify this. I wasn't thinking about Time when I commented, but I might have still been a little hasty. A lot of the NYT articles that I've seen before the 50s-60s don't have bylines (such as the 1934 source cited in the Negro Folk Symphony article). However, I think this is a minor point because KG already added the author for the 1964 source to the article. epicgenius (talk) 01:38, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for getting back to me so quickly. The Times articles I used are attached to this article I recently created: Negro Folk Symphony.Thriley (talk) 19:39, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Thriley Only one of the two older articles had a byline, which I added.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 20:22, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Kew Gardens 613 Thank you! Thriley (talk) 02:43, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Thriley No problem! If you need any more help with things like this, don't hesitate to ask me.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 08:53, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Online event invitation: November 21st ~ NYC COVID-19: Environmental Justice in Public Health Edit-A-Thon

November 21st, 11am-1pm E.S.T: NYC COVID-19: Environmental Justice in Public Health Edit-A-Thon - ONLINE

Hello WikiProject New York City! You are invited to join the Brooklyn based recycling organization Sure We Can for our 2nd NYC COVID-19 themed Wikipedia Edit-a-thon / translate-a-thon - ONLINE - this Saturday, Nov 21st, 2020 11am - 1pm. The edit-a-thon is part of Sure We Can's work with NYC Health + Hospitals to stop the spread of Covid-19. We plan to continue to work on translating the COVID-19 pandemic in New York City article into the many languages spoken in New York City; as well as, work on other ideas about how wikipedia could slow the spread of Covid-19. We’ve compiled, with the help of translators, translations of the first four paragraphs of the COVID-19 in NYC article into Swahilli, Malagasy, Yoruba, Hebrew, Hindi, and Tagalog. You can see the translations in the Meetup page. We are looking for help publishing this translated information onto the appropriate wikipedia projects. Please join us and spread the word, we'd love to see you all (online). Saturday November 21 NYC COVID-19: Environmental Justice in Public Health Edit-A-Thon - ONLINE (optional RSVP on-wiki). 11:00am - 1:00 pm E.S.T online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms available)

--Wil540 art (talk) 17:35, 2 November 2020 (UTC)

I-95 (Cross Bronx) location

This issue has been plaguing me for years, but I can't help but believe the image below is of the Cross Bronx Expressway between the Alexander Hamilton Bridge and the interchange for the Washington Bridge, which puts it between Highbridge and Morris Heights. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 19:32, 18 November 2020 (UTC)

DanTD, you would be correct. The stone bridge in the middle was reconstructed around 2010 and no longer looks like that. Epicgenius (talk) 15:30, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

But feel free to correct me if you think or know I'm wrong.

Bloomingdale failure

A few days ago in Quora I cane across a new editor who was unhappy because his draft of a new article had been rejected (umm, what do they call it, declined? Whatever) so with a little discussion I found that he was part of a small historical Society in the upper Manhattan Valley, Manhattan area, who want to make their little neighborhood its own separate article. And Bloomingdale Road, Bloomingdale NYPL, Bloomingdale School, etc. Apparently they've got some small degree of competence as amateur historians; just no Wiki wisdom, being for the most part, nearly as old and slow-learning as me. So, I've copied my last reply into User talk:Fuertebrazos and we could use some help from the experienced. Including, of course, showing where my advice has already gone wrong Jim.henderson (talk) 13:41, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Jim: Is there a draft article still around? Manhattan Valley is a legit neighborhood, so an article would make sense, and Bloomingdale Road has an interesting and complex history vis-a-vis Broadway. I'm note sure about the others, but looking at some drafts -- if they're still around -- would be helpful. If they were deleted, can you list the names so they can be requested via WP:REFUND. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:38, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Epicgenius This seems like it's right up your alley. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:39, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

Beyond My Ken, thanks for the ping. I haven't had time for much more than a cursory search so far. However, as a term it is probably notable, independently of Manhattan Valley. I do know that this designation extended to part of modern day Morningside Heights (i.e. Bloomingdale Insane Asylum), on top of the examples Jim mentions above. Epicgenius (talk) 22:47, 20 December 2020 (UTC)

By the way, the draft does still exist, at Draft:Bloomingdale. Epicgenius (talk) 16:21, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 16:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

C.f. old revision. ɱ (talk) 16:34, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Insight into a topic

There is a discussion ongoing at Talk:Tiffany glass#Grand Central Terminal that may interest WikiProject members. Was Grand Central Terminal's south facade clock made of Tiffany glass? Weigh in at the link above. ɱ (talk) 22:06, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Campbell's Soup Cans Featured article review

I have nominated Campbell's Soup Cans for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 21:42, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Coach USA Bus for New Jersey Transit

Is this Coach USA RTS bus with license plates from New Jersey, and a contract with New Jersey Transit, really in Manhattan, as I suspect? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 02:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)

Or is it on the other side of the Hudson?

@DanTD: you are correct the bus is on 42nd St, headed west, and just about to cross Broadway. 119.59.121.170 (talk) 20:19, 26 February 2021 (UTC)

Image for Duke Ellington Memorial?

Might a local be able to take a pic for the Duke Ellington Memorial? ---Another Believer _(Talk) 16:11, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

I think freedom of panorama is going to be an issue, unfortunately. The picture we have is probably safe because it's in the background. Is there more to the space than the central monument? We can certainly get photos of that, if so. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:39, 18 February 2021 (UTC)

Mine from the west on a cloudy day in another year, with a broader view of the plaza but still with about the same amount of detail for the monument, was killed last month. My guess is, an interesting foreground saved the Marathon one. Alas, this event was by far the most exciting thing I've ever seen there. The circular area around the monument is in theory a performance space, but nobody performs there. Anyway when good weather and widespread vaccination put me on the bicycle for more days, I'll try to visit more often. Jim.henderson (talk) 18:57, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:List of tallest buildings in New York City § RfC about list inclusion criteria

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:List of tallest buildings in New York City § RfC about list inclusion criteria. 119.59.121.172 (talk) 03:02, 3 March 2021 (UTC)

Discussion at Talk:Dyker Heights, Brooklyn § Compstat

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Dyker Heights, Brooklyn § Compstat. Epicgenius (talk) 00:16, 18 March 2021 (UTC)

Wikimedia NYC looking for community engagement roundtable facilitators

For those in the NY area or who knows someone in the NY area who might be interested:

Wikimedia New York City is seeking to contract for a four-month time frame with two community facilitators. Each facilitator will convene a series of roundtable discussions around a proposed focus area, report on the outcomes, and make community-building recommendations. For example, a roundtable of public librarians, museum curators, archivists, law school professors, doctors, or historians (or something narrower/broader than these). There is an honorarium available. For more information, see meta:Wikimedia New York City/Community Engagement Roundtables. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:40, 24 March 2021 (UTC)

Invest In Our New York Act

I recently created an article for the Invest In Our New York Act. It was recently nominated for deletion. Any assistance with the article would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 15:43, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Left a message on the article talk page. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:14, 11 April 2021 (UTC)

Proposed NYC collaboration: Stuyvesant Farm?

I've proposed doing a localized version of Wikipedia:Articles for improvement on the WMNYC Discord. It looks like Stuyvesant Farm is the leading candidate to focus on for the remainder of May 2021, we should have a more formal process for the next topic.--Pharos (talk) 23:43, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Flatiron Building RfC

This RfC may be of interest to the members of this project. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

AfD of interest

Members of this project may be interested in this AfD.Beyond My Ken (talk) 20:17, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Hudson Square RfC

This RfC may be of interest to the members of this group. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:56, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Green-Wood Cemetery RfC

this RfC may be of interest to the members of this group. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:08, 19 June 2021 (UTC)

Task Force: NYC Landmarks

Hi all, would there be any interest in forming a task force focused on NYC landmarks? The city is full of so many stubs that could be expanded upon, especially with a focus toward historic detailing. Intended scope would be structures that make up (or formerly made up!) the physical fabric of the city.. things like:

• infrastructure (bridges, tunnels, sea terminals, public utilities, etc.)
• parks & public spaces
• historic attractions/installations (world's fair stuff, zoos, beaches, etc)
• notable building categories (theaters/hotels/restaurants/venues/mansions)

Headphase (talk) 08:27, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

Headphase, that would be a great idea. On a purely technical basis, "NYC Landmark" (capitalized) refers to official designations by the New York City Landmarks Preservation Commission. I would suggest something like "infrastructure and places", as you are proposing a larger scope such as transport, buildings, etc, as well as green spaces and attractions. I've been working on tackling this over the last two years or so, but there is plenty much more to be done in this regard. Epicgenius (talk) 02:13, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

I actually forgot public transport (and honestly a little bit of other transport) goes under WP:NYCPT. Epicgenius (talk) 04:06, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Heath Freeman

I recently created an article for Heath Freeman, the managing director of the New York based Alden Global Capital which owns Digital First Media. Any help improving the article would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 03:50, 26 June 2021 (UTC)

June NYC collaboration: !Vote Today!

Following the May collaboration on Stuyvesant Farm (still ongoing)), we'd like to invite nominations and !voting for June. Please add your nominations below, and sign below all of the options that you like for this round.--Pharos (talk) 18:20, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

• A Trees of New York City

1. Pharos (talk) 18:20, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
2. DutchTreat (talk) 13:28, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
3. Wil540 art (talk) 13:59, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

• B Draft:Cartography of New York City

1. Pharos (talk) 18:20, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

My only comment is that we're talking about organizing a plant/nature themed photography event for July, so perhaps that makes sense to consider regarding the trees page. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:31, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Suggestions for future NYC collaborations?

Just opening a new section for people to suggest future articles. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 16:31, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

• The Bronx
• Coney Island (collaboration on Coney-related articles, not just the main one)
  • List of books about Coney Island
• Jewish Lower East Side
• List of museums and cultural institutions in New York City
• Asian Americans in New York City
• New York City waste management system
• Wildlife of New York City - see: 2018 Central Park Squirrel Census
• Template:Wildlife of New York City - see: Template:Wildlife_of_Pakistan
• Canarsie Park (Brooklyn)
• Washington Park (Brooklyn)
• Architectural photography of NYC buildings. For historic landmarks across various articles, improve quality of images and diagrams.

  This seems like an initiative we might want to involve Open House New York with. I'm not sure if they're planning to do an in-person OHNY Weekend this year, but in the past we've run photo contests with them focusing on architecture in NY. It typically brings new contributors to Commons. Also, bit of a tangent, but it would be useful to have a list of high-priority buildings that need better pictures. We have categories/templates, but they're pretty indiscriminate in terms of importance and very often outdated with regard to what photos are actually in the article. Might also be useful to have a list of NYC-based photographers with the gear/experience/interest to take good architectural shots. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:45, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

  I agree a partnership with OHNY would help us. I didn't know we had worked with them in the past. This effort sounds like a long-term project which I think is great! Could start with one or two focused monthly collab sessions before taking on a life of it's own. I am thinking that Historic Landmarks is a starting point for the list. Looking for input on several dimensions to rate the images used on these articles to encourage refinement. For example, evaluate age (contemporary vs. historic), need for higher-res, too many obstructions, perspective (aerial vs. street level) and others. Like your idea of collecting a set of photographers interested to rate and collect new images. - DutchTreat (talk) 15:23, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

  For architectural photography of NYC buildings, I think that would be great. There are a lot of historic landmarks that still don't have too many images. I've been tackling this issue recently, but most of my images so far have been in Manhattan. We really need more images on some of these subjects; for instance, until yesterday 666 Fifth Avenue barely had any images in its commons categories. Epicgenius (talk) 02:10, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

  Might there also be an opportunity with AIA's Archtober, which OHNY is also usually a part of? Star Mississippi 01:35, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

  @Rhododendrites: Sorry for the late response to your inquiry. Perspective is obviously difficult to handle, and I generally try to get as far away from the building as possible ideally without letting in distracting elements like traffic lights, power lines, etc. Even with a 14mm full-frame lens, you can sometimes struggle to include the entire building. For skyscrapers, a remote or aerial view would be best for the infobox, while a ground-level close-up (uncorrected for perspective distortion) would be a nice to have.

  One factor that is too rarely mentioned is the sun angle. If the building is east-facing, then it is best photographed during the morning; if it is west-facing, then afternoon. If it is south-facing, fall or winter can be better than spring or summer because the angle of the sun is lower, providing more dramatic lighting. If it is north-facing, then it can only really be photographed during the summer, during early morning or late afternoon (early morning is better for Manhattan given the grid angle). Though, direct head-on lighting is not necessarily the best, as having light come at a slight angle can make for a more dynamic image. For subjects with very tricky lighting and/or lots of shadows, it may be advisable to photograph them during times of soft light. A cloudy day can be good for scenes that have little or no sky in the background. Dawn/dusk (10 minutes before sunrise or after sunset) is a good way to get neutral, muted colors, while the blue hour (20-40 minutes into twilight) can make for a great contrast between artificial lights and the dark blue sky. -- King of ♥ ♦ ♣ ♠ 21:28, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

• Maybe this list/discussion of future ideas should be moved to a subpage. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:49, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

June is Tree Month

I hereby declare this month's NYC collaboration as Trees of New York City.--Pharos (talk) 03:42, 3 June 2021 (UTC)

200 West Street

This discussion may be of interest to the members of this WikiProject. Beyond My Ken (talk) 18:14, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Collaboration of the month subpage

• Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City/Monthly collaboration

As the section with possible collaborations begins to scroll up this page, it seemed like we should move it to a subpage. Of course the announcement of each month's collaboration and/or sharing of the result should still be here (as well as voting, I guess?), but the subpage can be for tracking past collaborations, brainstorming articles, and suggesting future topics. Thoughts? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 20:48, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

July NYC collaboration: !Vote Today!

Following the May collaboration on Stuyvesant Farm and the June collaboration on Trees of New York City, we'd like to invite nominations and !voting for July. Please add your nominations below, and sign below all of the options that you like for this round.--Pharos (talk) 00:41, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

• A Coney Island and everything in Category:Coney Island

1. (my #1 choice) Pharos (talk) 00:41, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
2. Also my first choice. I was thinking of coming back to some CI-related articles, like some of the old parks and official NYC landmarks, which I worked on a few years ago. Epicgenius (talk) 01:16, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
3. I want to help create articles for: Coney Island Creek Park & Kaiser Park --Wil540 art (talk) 01:58, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
4. DutchTreat (talk) 10:20, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
5. I'd almost rather see this be about everything in Category:Coney Island other than the main article, which is already a GA. Anyone have suggestions for specific topics? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 20:38, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

• B New York City waste management system

1. Pharos (talk) 00:41, 1 July 2021 (UTC)

July is Coney Island month!

Hope nobody minds my calling it, despite participating myself. It seems pretty clear. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 20:49, 2 July 2021 (UTC)

Coronavirus in New York City: Translate-A-Thon - ONLINE - January 23rd, 2021

January 23rd, 11am-1pm E.S.T: Coronavirus in New York City: Translate-A-Thon - ONLINE

Hello WikiProject New York City users! You are invited to join the Brooklyn based Sure We Can community for our 3rd NYC COVID-19 themed Wikipedia Edit-a-thon / translate-a-thon - ONLINE - Saturday, Jan 23rd, 2021 11am - 1pm. The edit-a-thon is part of Sure We Can's work with NYC Health + Hospitals to stop the spread of Covid-19. We plan to continue to work on translating the COVID-19 pandemic in New York City article into the many languages spoken in New York City; as well as, work on other ideas about how information on wikipedia could slow the spread of Covid-19. Thank you for RSVPing. Saturday January 23 Coronavirus in New York City: Translate-A-Thon - ONLINE (optional RSVP on-wiki). 11:00am - 1:00 pm E.S.T online via Zoom (optional breakout rooms available)

Wednesday: July 14: Virtual Coney Island Meetup + NYC monthly collaboration

You're all invited to join us on Wednesday, 7:00pm - 8:00 pm online via WikiConey on Gather, we'll meet on a proximity chat virtual Coney Island beach and share over topical articles and collaborations.--Pharos (talk) 17:45, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

I.D. This Bridge

Because I think I see the Spuyten Duyvil (Metro-North station) behind all those girders.

Is the photo below of the Henry Hudson Bridge, or someplace else? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 13:12, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's the view of the Henry Hudson Bridge from a trail intersection in Inwood Hill Park. Could've sworn I'd taken a picture from there, but apparently not. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:58, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

Confirmed: link. ɱ (talk) 15:24, 21 July 2021 (UTC)

 Thanks, I fixed it. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 02:41, 22 July 2021 (UTC)

Unidentified buildings

Yesterday I had the opportunity to go on a boat tour with Open House New York. I wasn't planning to make it a photography event, but the light was good and it's unusual (for me anyway) to get that perspective. So I took a few, but don't know what all the buildings are. Maybe folks can take a look here to see if they know any of the "Building in Manhattan" files? — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 12:48, 23 July 2021 (UTC)

• Rhododendrites I almost went on that tour myself but schedule didn't quite work. OHNY should have the list, but if it's the Titanic pier to our left I think this is the Standard Highline? Star Mississippi 13:07, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
  • While OHNY may be able to help, none of these were part of the tour. We just happened to pass them. It wasn't a typical landmarks-based tour; more about history and infrastructure. Yes, looks like you're right about the Standard High Line. Tdorante10 went ahead and identified several of them on Commons (thanks!). The only two leftovers are displayed at right. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 02:24, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    • A quick Google Maps search clearly indicates that both pictures are from the Chelsea Piers (Piers 60 and 61), but the second building is on 11th Avenue between 17th and 18th Streets. So while I don't know the names of the buildings, at least the location can be found. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
    • Yay teamwork. I didn't know how to fix them on Commons but figured if I left it here, someone who knew how would. Could the bottom one be the XI? Info here. Star Mississippi 17:10, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Where under the IRT is this?

I'm still trying to find the exact location of one image of a bus along US 9 (Broadway) beneath the elevated section of the IRT Broadway-Seventh Avenue Line. Assuming this is genuinely in Manhattan, the only two places this could possibly be are in Inwood or Marble Hill. Otherwise it's in Kingsbridge in the Bronx. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 14:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Sadly, attempting to identify the neighborhood by the storefronts has proven to be unhelpful.

Assuming this isn't a joke:

• Is this your pic? If it's not your image: ignore most of what follows:
  • Is this one image from a series?
    • Have you looked at the adjacent images?
    • What's the time differential?
    • Do you have gps data from any of these image?
  • I added a note re the streetlight, can you see the note?
  • The name of the business behind the bus is Discount Beauty Supply, but you already knew that.
  • Have you tried adjusting the exposure to pull data from what appear to be nearly completely blown out areas of the image for the two businesses on the right hand side of the image?

That's all I've got, --Dan CmdrDan (talk) 03:37, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

@DanTD: It isn't a joke, first of all. Based on searching for Discount Beauty Supply, I found that this is not on the IRT, but is on Broadway in Brooklyn here, under the BMT Jamaica Line, at Myrtle Avenue. This Google Maps streetview from 2007 shows this store.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 12:27, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

We have a winner!!!

✌🏿✌🏾✌🏽✌🏼✌🏻✌️

✌️✌🏻✌🏼✌🏽✌🏾✌🏿

Terrific work!

👏🏿👏🏾👏🏽👏🏼👏🏻👏👏👏🏻👏🏼👏🏽👏🏾👏🏿

What is up with that streetview imagery?

It's embarrassingly terrible. Focus...hello?

I've never seen streetview images out of focus; exposure: ok, the elevated tricked the cameras...

It's atrocious.

—CmdrDan (talk) 00:27, 14 August 2021 (UTC)

Essential Workers Monument

Project members might be interested in fleshing out the new stub Essential Workers Monument. Happy editing! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 14:48, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Image discussions

A discussion which may be of interest to the members of this group can be found here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:21, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

And another here. Beyond My Ken (talk) 22:30, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

Wanted photos page

Hi all,

We have Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in New York City, but that system is (a) cumbersome, (b) frequently outdated, (c) hard to navigate, and (d) includes a variety of requests, from photos of historic events to people and buildings that don't exist anymore. I've started a new page, Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City/Wanted photos, intended to be actionable photo requests. The idea is to request a new or improved photo of something that one of our members might actually be able to take themselves. There's a section for photo requests, difficult requests (e.g. if something requires special access, or if you just want a really high quality photo), and photo opportunities (like an upcoming event). Take a look, and add as you see fit. We'll see if it works. I haven't linked to it from anywhere else -- perhaps if others think it could be useful you want to add it to the main WikiProject page. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 14:58, 17 July 2021 (UTC)

Incorrect coordinates

The pushpin map for the article on Caffe Cino doesn't link to the United States, let alone the West Village. It actually links it to Southwestern Kyrgyzstan. I originally thought it was Tajikistan, but I was wrong. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 03:17, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Fixed; see edit at Wikidata. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:45, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Notice of Featured Article Review

I have nominated Malcolm X for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Z1720 (talk) 16:16, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

August monthly collaboration

It's time to pick this month's monthly collaboration. See Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City/Monthly collaboration#Ideas for future collaborations. Please add options and/or suggest a topic for this month! — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:57, 1 August 2021 (UTC)

• A Pizza of New York City (styles, pizzerias, etc.)

1. Pharos (talk) 20:38, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
2. Wil540 art (talk) 21:43, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
3. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:38, 3 August 2021 (UTC)

• B New York City waterfront

1. Pharos (talk) 20:38, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

• C Canarsie Park (Brooklyn)

1. Wil540 art (talk) 21:43, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

• D Grand Prospect Hall

1. Wil540 art (talk) 21:53, 2 August 2021 (UTC)

Pizza

In the interest of setting the topic before we get too far into the month, let's go with pizza of New York City. I've added some material to the monthly collab page. Let's get to work on some NY pizza articles! — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 01:58, 4 August 2021 (UTC)

Barry the Central Park owl

Hello, I recently created an article for Barry, a noted barred owl that lived in Central Park. Barry was recently killed by being hit by a car. Any help with the article would be appreciated! Thank you, Thriley (talk) 06:06, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:First Presbyterian Church (Manhattan)#Requested move 22 July 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:First Presbyterian Church (Manhattan)#Requested move 22 July 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject.  — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 22:47, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Black Lives Matter art in New York City

Black Lives Matter art in New York City: Improvements welcome! ---Another Believer _(Talk) 18:15, 18 August 2021 (UTC)

Democracy Prep Public Schools

Hello, I noticed that the draft for Democracy Prep Public Schools, a large charter school operation based in NYC was rejected at AfC. Any help in improving it would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 05:20, 23 August 2021 (UTC)

September monthly collaboration

It's time to pick this month's monthly collaboration!

Here are three options to vote on. Remember you can add possible future topics here.

List of New York City historical organizations and projects

1. an interesting new list that can be seeded with several existing articles — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
2. Pharos (talk) 17:57, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Flatbush African Burial Ground

1. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
2. --Wil540 art (talk) 21:21, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
3. -- DutchTreat (talk) 11:46, 5 September 2021 (UTC)

Grand Prospect Hall

1. not the most broadly interesting subject, but it's in the news now. Update: This is my first choice. Shortly after writing the above, another story came out about it. It would probably be useful to have a solid article about this place as people consider it as a landmark. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 17:17, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
2. It is too bad the petition and energy to save the building did not come about sooner. That said, I hope they put up a good fight. --Wil540 art (talk) 21:21, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
3. Pharos (talk) 17:57, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
4. Epicgenius (talk) 15:08, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

Grand Prospect Hall

Hope nobody minds, but as we're more than a week into the month already, I'm going to call it: this month's article is Grand Prospect Hall! — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:48, 8 September 2021 (UTC)

This morning I got there, both too early and too late. Too early in the day because the Sun was wrong. Too late in history because the building is already hidden in netting for the demolition. Two buildings actually; I couldn't remember which of the two was my target and was too disappointed and impatient to stay and check. Jim.henderson (talk) 22:29, 12 September 2021 (UTC)

Airport search

Is this corridor in JFK Airport, or LaGuardia Airport? Because somebody added coordinates for it at 75th Avenue and 75th Street in Utopia, of all places. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 20:18, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Or is it in some part of a JFK AirTrain station I've never been to before?

LaGuardia Terminal B baggage claim. Clues: apparent American Airlines name on the wall, flat rather than sloped carousels, and overall kind of dark and sad. :) see also pics here — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 21:20, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

Live near Prospect Park? Take pictures, upload to Commons, win prizes!

The Wikimedia NYC Prospect Park nature photo contest is underway, running through the end of September! Anyone is welcome to participate. No special gear required (there's even one prize for best picture taken with a smartphone camera).

We also have an event page on prospectpark.org (linked from their calendar).

Take pictures of birds, trees, flowers, insects, turtles, squirrels, the lake... anything "nature" and upload them using the campaign link on the contest page. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 04:52, 23 September 2021 (UTC)

Update: This event has been extended to 10/31! - Take pictures of foliage or other nature in Prospect Park and upload them using the Prospect Park campaign on Commons! — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 19:29, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

Plaque possibly at the Federal Reserve

I asked about this three years ago, and nobody has answered me; Is this plaque located on the Federal Reserve Bank Building? ---------User:DanTD (talk) 15:00, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Or is this on another building within the Financial District?

Ted Weiss Federal Building. You can actually see the seal in Google Streetview here. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 15:12, 1 October 2021 (UTC)

Ghost Forest

I recently created a draft for Ghost Forest, an art installation by Maya Lin currently on view in Madison Square Park. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 17:55, 12 October 2021 (UTC)

October monthly collaboration

It's time to pick this month's monthly collaboration!

Here are four options to vote on. Remember you can add possible future topics here.

New York City waterfront

1. .

Asian Americans in New York City

1. Wil540 art (talk) 23:38, 30 September 2021 (UTC)

stubs at Template:Public art in Manhattan

1. — Rhododendrites ^talk \\ 13:33, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
2. Pharos (talk) 17:27, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
3. Epicgenius (talk) 12:52, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

List of parks in The Bronx

1. Wil540 art (talk) 23:38, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
2. Pharos (talk) 17:27, 3 October 2021 (UTC)

• I hereby declare the October 2021 collaboration as {{Public art in Manhattan}} (stubs)!--Pharos (talk) 20:26, 14 October 2021 (UTC)

New York City Subway

There is currently a discussion underway to change the article name from New York City Subway to New York City subway. Cards84664 13:00, 15 October 2021 (UTC)

Two images of a Bee-Line bus to Bedford Park

There are these two images of a New Flyer articulated bus on Bee-Line's W21 route going to Bedford Park in the Bronx underneath what I suspect is the IRT Jerome Avenue Line. ---------User:DanTD (talk) 14:54, 16 October 2021 (UTC)

• 
  But just because it's going to Bedford Park, doesn't mean it's in Bedford Park.
• 
  For all I know, this could be in Norwood.

I believe the photographs were taken underneath the northwest end of the Mosholu Parkway station. The bus is southbound going to Bedford Park/Jerome Park. I would categorize the image as being in Norwood. --HugoHelp (talk) 19:07, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Lewis (baseball) Featured article review

I have nominated Lewis (baseball) for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 17:38, 30 October 2021 (UTC)

Elsewhere (music venue)

Elsewhere (music venue), a major independent music venue in Brooklyn is up for deletion. Any help with sourcing would be appreciated. Thank you, Thriley (talk) 00:28, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Requested move at Talk:New York City Subway#Requested move 14 October 2021

There is a requested move discussion at Talk:New York City Subway#Requested move 14 October 2021 that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. — Shibbolethink ^(♔ ^♕) 13:04, 3 November 2021 (UTC)

Louis Nizer

NYC lawyer and his article has been a little neglected despite having a very long and interesting career so I added a few sources and formatted it a bit. The NYTimes has a ton of articles on him. It's a common far right claim that he advocated genocidal approach to post-war Germany in his 1944 book What to do with Germany using cherry picked quotations from the book and reviews of the book. Since it's a low traffic page an IP added that claim in 2019 and it wasn't removed until Jan 2020. Using two book reviews I summarized what the book actually advocates. Harizotoh9 (talk) 19:28, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Linda Lee (politician)

I saw this article when patrolling CAT:CSD earlier, and it made a clear claim (more of that in a mo) to meet WP:POLITICIAN, so I removed the A7 tag and started improving it. I then got stuck, because the only sources I can find show that Lee is the projected winner of the New York City's 23rd City Council district election, not the actual confirmed winner. I'm not totally up to speed with local politics in NYC, but I assume this is analogous to a network "calling" the presidential race when they have good reason to believe it's mathematically impossible for anyone else to win, as opposed to an actual, final and certified result. This is important for this article, because it pretty much makes the case or not for Lee meeting WP:POLITICIAN, and hence deserving an article. Ritchie333 ^(talk) ^(cont) 19:41, 15 November 2021 (UTC)

Category:Women New York City Council members has been nominated for merging

I got this on my talk page today and felt that it might be of interest to this WikiProject:

Category:Women New York City Council members has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page.

--HugoHelp (talk) 00:32, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Assessment - importance standardization

Hello all,

At the moment, the project's assessment criteria is a bit vague on importance ratings; I propose some standardization be added to the 'importance grading scheme' table as follows:
Headphase (talk) 01:27, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

Article importance grading scheme

Label	Criteria	Examples
Top	Subject is a "core" or "key" topic for New York City, or is generally notable to the public at large.	Widely-famous landmarks (Statue of Liberty) The five boroughs Current major officeholders from NYC incl. POTUS, US Senator, NY Governor, NYC Mayor Current professional NYC sports teams (Yankees) High-level concepts which form the basis of the city, e.g. History of New York City
High	Subject is notable in a significant and important way within the field of New York City, but not necessarily outside it.	Significant historical events (Stonewall Riots, Battle of Long Island) Significant infrastructure (BQE, Verrazano-Narrows Bridge) Prominent natural features (Flushing Bay) Prominent landmarks (Unisphere) Current officeholders representing, or from, NYC (commissioners, councilmembers borough presidents, state assembly-members) City-wide agencies (NYC Parks) Citizens who have shaped the city in a prominent way, incl. former Mayors/POTUS/US Senator (Fiorello La Guardia)
Mid	Subject contributes to the total subject of the New York City WikiProject. Subject may not necessarily be famous. Many articles will be in this class.	Minor local historical events Minor infrastructure (Grand Street Bridge, Downtown Manhattan Heliport) Minor natural features (Gowanus Canal) Minor landmarks (Canarsie Pier) Most former officeholders who represented NYC Former professional NYC sports teams (Brooklyn Dodgers) NYC-centric organizations Externally-significant organizations/companies located in NYC (Condé Nast) Significant media or individuals tied to NYC (Seinfeld, Steve Buscemi) Products or items created in NYC and significant to the city (Bagel)
Low	Subject is not particularly notable or significant even within the field of New York City, and may have been included primarily to achieve comprehensive coverage of another topic.	Notable individuals with tangential connections to NYC (Alan Greenspan) Seasons of NYC sports teams Products or items created in NYC, but not significant to the city as a whole ([[

Hint: the current importance scale is shown at Wikipedia:WikiProject New York City/Assessment#Importance scale. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 03:55, 18 November 2021 (UTC)

All rated articles by quality and importance
Quality	Importance
	Top	High	Mid	Low	???	Total
FA	1,415	2,250	2,180	1,563	168	7,576
FL	165	609	670	622	107	2,173
A	303	624	740	503	87	2,257
GA	2,775	6,413	12,856	15,768	1,644	39,456
B	14,646	28,392	45,588	47,325	17,187	153,138
C	14,498	45,336	110,248	206,913	69,652	446,647
Start	18,688	88,267	379,668	1,267,562	377,803	2,131,988
Stub	4,419	32,459	277,467	2,530,390	846,655	3,691,390
List	4,366	15,077	46,019	148,776	78,053	292,291
Assessed	61,275	219,427	875,436	4,219,422	1,391,356	6,766,916
Unassessed	115	475	1,472	14,907	407,316	424,285
Total	61,390	219,902	876,908	4,234,329	1,798,672	7,191,201

@Headphase: This isn't a bad idea, though I don't think I would implement it exactly as suggested.

So WikiProject importance is WP:Vital articles for specific topics. Obviously projects don't have the time or participants to discuss things in detail the way they are there, so I don't mind standardization to make things easier even if we know it's not going to be perfect but we should still exercise care, especially with top importance stuff. In short the question we should be asking ourselves is if we were going to write an encyclopedia of New York City which articles would be most crucial. Looking at the stats for all projects it seems the aim is to have around 3/4 rated low, 1/5 rated mid, 1/20 rated high, and >1/100 rated top, as a rough guide.

My biggest concern is WP:RECENTISM, especially with the bios. I would not automatically include bios of current office holders at top, especially as we cannot yet predict their long-term impact, though all mayors should be at least mid. Notice also how there are no bios in vital articles until you get to level 3. I would use considerably more nuance with former sports teams, the Brooklyn Dodgers probably should be a high, but some short-lived teams, even if big-league by the standards of their day may end-up being low. Current professional sports teams outside the big 4 North American leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA, NHL) are probably not going to be top. Really when it comes to top-importance it might be a useful exercise to ask if we could only have ≈200 articles what would they be.

However, we don't have to get it perfect in advance, especially for high and mid stuff it might be best to try something that looks more or less right and then tweak it until the system is reasonably consistent and getting us in the neighborhood of the expected numbers. Ratings aren't permanent they can always be adjusted if major inconsistencies start to appear, or stuff just looks wrong. 81.177.27.61 (talk) 03:39, 28 November 2021 (UTC)