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Questions on The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals

I've been looking into the notability for musicals produced by StarKid Productions and wish to double check one aspect of the article The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals. I still need to search for reviews, but what is the standard for notability with musical theater productions? The musical received awards from a site, but I am unsure of the site's reliability and general importance within this WikiProject, and whether these awards mean anything at all toward the subject's notability. I wished to double check before moving ahead with doing a deep dive of reviews so I can have a better-informed assessment of this subject's notability. Any help with this is greatly appreciated. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 06:03, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A musical's notability should be judged based on a combination (balancing) of these factors:

• 1. Does it have notable writers, composer, director, cast?
• 2. Did it run a long time (more than a year?) at a major venue?
• 3. Did it get reviews and feature articles in national or international media, like The New York Times, The Guardian, Variety?
• 4. Awards: Did it win any Tony Awards? Olivier Awards?
• 5. Anything else that makes the musical particularly interesting? For example, was it premiered on a network TV program in prime time? Did it have numerous revivals around the world? Has it had a lengthy (more than a year) US, UK or world tour to notable regional venues?

I looked at these StarKid productions and did not think their short-running, never-revived musicals, with no notable creatives, cast or crew were very notable. They do not seem to have attracted reviews in major media. -- Ssilvers (talk) 06:33, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ssilvers if reviews came from non-major media, but are still classified as reliable sources, would those be considered as applying to the GNG? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 06:57, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

GNG says: "significant coverage in reliable sources creates an assumption, not a guarantee, that a subject merits its own article." Let's unpack this. Does the coverage discuss the musical in depth? Does it discuss the writing, themes, societal, dramatic or comic impact or artistic merit of the musical? Can you tell from the sources that the musical has significant thematic, societal, dramatic or comic impact or artistic merit? Even if so, if the musical was only produced once for a short run, or in a small venue, with few or no notable people involved, as in this case, I don't think it really satisfies WP:MILL and WP:INDISCRIMINATE. -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:13, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ssilvers so things like local news sources would be relatively unviable for illustrating notability, is what I'm gathering? Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 14:36, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not sure if we should be looking at run time at venue for notability when YouTube release has been a large part of the "run". --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:35, 18 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sarek, I don't think posting something to social media is very significant, unless it got hundreds of millions of views, like The Unofficial Bridgerton Musical. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:00, 19 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

R.I.P. Marvin Laird

Conductor and composer Marvin Laird has died according to a lengthy obituary in The New York Times. We already have an article on his musical Ruthless! but lack an article on him. He was a frequent collaborator with Bernadette Peters, and was music director on many of her albums/concerts. Could make it on the main page "In the news" if someone wants to create an article in the next day or so.4meter4 (talk) 02:42, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion about Hugh Jackman

There's a discussion at Talk:Hugh Jackman#Singer in the lead revisited about whether or not to include singer in the lead of Hugh Jackman's page. I thought that people here might want to participate in it. JDDJS (talk to me • see what I've done) 03:17, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Holidays (musical)

This musical has been proposed for deletion at AfD. See WP:Articles for deletion/Holidays (musical). It got a New York Times review and quite a bit of other press, but it is hard to search for articles about it, because the name is a common word. I searched using the director's name and added a few more sources. Feel free to improve the article or comment at the AfD. -- Ssilvers (talk) 07:19, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/William A. Raidy

Editors may wish to comment at this discussion.4meter4 (talk) 02:08, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Input needed at Talk:Clay M. Greene#Issues

I would appreciate some other opinions at Talk:Clay M. Greene#Issues. The issue involves the interpretation of sources, and whether they have been accurately represented. All opinions are welcome.4meter4 (talk) 06:28, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]