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Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Christianity in India/Archive 2
Coordinators' working groupHi! I'd like to draw your attention to the new WikiProject coordinators' working group, an effort to bring both official and unofficial WikiProject coordinators together so that the projects can more easily develop consensus and collaborate. This group has been created after discussion regarding possible changes to the A-Class review system, and that may be one of the first things discussed by interested coordinators. All designated project coordinators are invited to join this working group. If your project hasn't formally designated any editors as coordinators, but you are someone who regularly deals with coordination tasks in the project, please feel free to join as well. — Delievered by §hepBot (Disable) on behalf of the WikiProject coordinators' working group at 05:40, 28 February 2009 (UTC) Discussion regarding project organizationAny comments regarding the structure and function of Christianity related material are welcome at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum#Project organization. Be prepared for some rather lengthy comments, though. There is a lot of material to cover there. John Carter (talk) 17:36, 13 March 2009 (UTC) This is a notice to let you know about Article alerts, a fully-automated subscription-based news delivery system designed to notify WikiProjects and Taskforces when articles are entering Articles for deletion, Requests for comment, Peer review and other workflows (full list). The reports are updated on a daily basis, and provide brief summaries of what happened, with relevant links to discussion or results when possible. A certain degree of customization is available; WikiProjects and Taskforces can choose which workflows to include, have individual reports generated for each workflow, have deletion discussion transcluded on the reports, and so on. An example of a customized report can be found here. If you are already subscribed to Article Alerts, it is now easier to report bugs and request new features. We are also in the process of implementing a "news system", which would let projects know about ongoing discussions on a wikipedia-wide level, and other things of interest. The developers also note that some subscribing WikiProjects and Taskforces use the Message sent by User:Addbot to all active wiki projects per request, Comments on the message and bot are welcome here. Thanks. — Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 09:15, 15 March, 2009 (UTC) History of Christianity in IndiaFirst an article History of Christianity in India is badly needed. Plus while searching for Thomas Valpy French, I found this Boston University site with a vast archive of 18-19th century documents of missionary work in India. Here is one such link Our missions in India 1834-1924 , by Rev. E.M. Wherry. (Elwood Morris), 1843-1927. (Boston, Mass., Stratford Co., 1926., 1926 and [Other links related to India can be found here --Ekabhishek (talk) 06:44, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
There are many articles in this with history of Christianity of each state. Pamparam (talk) 01:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
Wikipedians at Talk:Roman Catholic Church/Mediation on Naming Convention are discussing the merits of changing the article name as such. Coordinator electionsAny parties interested in being one of the coordinators of WikiProject Christianity and its various related projects is encouraged to list themselves as a candidate at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/Coordinators/Election 2. It would be particularly beneficial if we had individuals from as broad a range of areas of the project as possible, to help ensure that we have people knowledgable about the widest range of content possible. John Carter (talk) 20:42, 5 August 2009 (UTC) About the articles on Saint Thomas Christians common historyThis is continuation of the discussion at Talk:Syrian_Malabar_Nasrani#POV There are Six articles which claim common history of Saint Thomas Christians out of this 4 have almost similar contents about the same period.
Earlier there were only two main articles about common history. Those were Syrian Malabar Nasrani and Saint_Thomas Christian tradition named as Saint Thomas Christians. Right now all of these 4 articles has mis quoted references with out any consideration of facts. I propose to keep two main articles about Saint Thomas Christians Syrian Malabar Nasrani and Saint_Thomas Christian tradition with a defined scope for each so that new articles with same scope are not created again. After the scope is defined and the article is formed, the other two articles scope History of the Saint Thomas Christians and Malankara Church can be defined and may be can be included as subpages for the main articles with defined scope.
Subpages can be used for lengthy sections. With this each of the seven churches can make a note about the main two articles for shared common history and the frequent changes and non sourced quotations can be avoided. User:Student7 has made few recommendations which can be read in Talk:Syrian_Malabar_Nasrani#POV Pamparam (talk) 00:53, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
As noted this will help each of Saint Thomas Chrisitan denominations to write about themselves in the article than quoting nonsense apologetics written in 21 st century in their respective articles.
On the early east Syrian influence – The earliest surviving local document is written in 13th century and this says Metropolitan of India under Catholicos Yahballaha III ( 1281-1317) in 1301 AD was Bishop Jacob. The title of Metropolitan was “ Metropolitan and Door of All India”. In the Vatican MSS of 1301, the bishop is also named as “ Metropolitan and Director of the Holy Church in India “. We have many reference from East Syriac sources about the relationship in earlier centuries.The Church was hierarchically dependent on the Church of Seleucia or Seleucia-Ctesiphon as noted from the documents.The Church obtained its own metropolitan see sometime in the 7th or 8th century. From 1501 onwards, there are many documents about current Metropolitans and reference to early metropolitans. After the death of the last Chaldean Metropliten Mar Abhraham Portuguese sealed the trade route to ensure that no Bishops will come.
Historical IndiaWhen Europeans referred to "India", they were denoting the region around the Indus River, or what we would today call "Pakistan." This should influence what readers see when they run across "India" in ancient texts. This does not mean the rest of what we today, know as India. This may influence the interpretation of remarks by European ancients about Thomas preaching "in India," and delegates being sent to Church councils "from India." Student7 (talk) 14:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC) Discussion of ancient Christian rootsA discussion of the actual Christian history prior to arrival of the Portuguese and a few years beyond, is taking place at File talk:Nasrani Evolution.jpg. We are trying to make decisions on WP:RELY references to use and the actual determination of facts as opposed to legend and myths. Please join us there if you are interested in being a part of the group that arrives at consensus on these determinations.Student7 (talk) 12:27, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
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