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Just wanted to say that all of your time is valuable, and no one should feel pressured to contribute any more than they want to Kowal2701 (talk) 08:26, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would be glad to see Oral history renamed and redefined, as I think there are a lot of incoming links to Oral history that more likely refer to traditional storytelling. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 00:53, 29 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, @Kowal2701, I came up with this, please take a look and maybe @Johanna Wood might want to look too.
Oral tradition is the means by which information is transmitted from one generation to the next through speech and storytelling. It is a dynamic and ever-evolving process that encompasses a vast array of human expression. From myths, legends, and folktales to historical narratives, genealogies, and legal precedents, oral tradition serves as a repository of cultural knowledge, values, and beliefs. This taskforce explores the relationship between oral tradition and anthropology, literature, and other scholarly fields. We aim to improve Wikipedia's coverage of oral traditions from diverse cultures, including indigenous and contemporary societies. Our scope includes the study of oral performance, transmission, and reception; the interplay between oral and written traditions; and the influence of oral tradition on cultural identity, social structures, and historical narratives. We will examine oral genres such as myths, legends, folktales, epics, ballads, proverbs, and riddles. We will also look at the role of oral tradition in preserving cultural heritage, transmitting knowledge, and fostering social cohesion. Additionally, we will explore the impact of the digital age on the documentation, preservation, and revitalization of oral traditions. Through collaboration, we aim to create a comprehensive resource on oral tradition. Our work involves identifying gaps in coverage, improving existing articles, and creating new articles on underrepresented topics. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:19, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Wow, great work! One thing I'd add is "the institutions crucial to oral tradition". The frequency they are told and climate they are told in have big impacts on the quality of preservation Kowal2701 (talk) 15:27, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Kowal2701 Something like Oral tradition relies on institutions and practices for its preservation and transmission. The Griot and similar roles in other cultures serve as oral historians and storytellers. Memorization, practice, and performance are necessary for the transmission of oral narratives. The frequency and context of storytelling influence the evolution and preservation of these traditions. could be incorporated? Vanderwaalforces (talk) 15:37, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes that looks good, also maybe say While oral tradition is largely found and emphasised in societies that revere the oral word in contrast to the written word, it is commonplace in some form within all societies worldwide.Kowal2701 (talk) 15:42, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We should also consider present-day connections like rap and other forms of popular music which came from oral traditions somehow. JohnDVandevert (talk) 06:49, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Oral tradition is the means by which information is transmitted from one generation to the next through speech and storytelling. It is a dynamic and ever-evolving process that encompasses a vast array of human expression. From myths, legends, and folktales to historical narratives, genealogies, and legal precedents, oral tradition serves as a repository of cultural knowledge, values, and beliefs. Oral tradition relies on institutions and practices for its preservation and transmission. The Griot and similar roles in other cultures serve as oral historians and storytellers. Memorization, practice, and performance are necessary for the transmission of oral narratives. The frequency and context of storytelling influence the evolution and preservation of these traditions. This taskforce explores the relationship between oral tradition and anthropology, literature, and other scholarly fields. We aim to improve Wikipedia's coverage of oral traditions from diverse cultures, including indigenous and contemporary societies. While oral tradition is largely found and emphasised in societies that revere the oral word in contrast to the written word, it is commonplace in some form within all societies worldwide. Our scope includes the study of oral performance, transmission, and reception; the interplay between oral and written traditions; and the influence of oral tradition on cultural identity, social structures, and historical narratives. We will examine oral genres such as myths, legends, folktales (gossip and jokes), epics, ballads, proverbs, and riddles. We will also look at the role of oral tradition in preserving cultural heritage, transmitting knowledge, and fostering social cohesion. Additionally, we will explore the impact of the digital age on the documentation, preservation, and revitalization of oral traditions. Through collaboration, we aim to create a comprehensive resource on oral tradition. Our work involves identifying gaps in coverage, improving existing articles, and creating new articles on underrepresented topics.
What a wonderful draft my friend. Perhaps we can add something, albeit brief, about music specifically and its forms like the epic and the ballad? JohnDVandevert (talk) 17:31, 7 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
hi @Vanderwaalforces, That's an excellent draft. One minor point: the sequence "myths, legends, folktales (gossip and jokes)" gives the impression that gossip and jokes are subtypes of folktales - which is surely not what you intended. -- Womtelo (talk) 18:17, 7 August 2024 (UTC).[reply]
Mid = specific pieces of oral tradition that are predominantly recorded orally, such as Ural-batyr, BLPs and works that have been crucial in the study of oral tradition such as the Homeric epics
Low = specific works that used to be recorded orally but are now predominantly written, such as Pali Canon, articles to do with oral history like Oral History Association, and articles that discuss and mention oral tradition in at least a few sentences, like Albanian paganism
@Kowal2701 You know what you just did? This is the best and clearest classification of articles I’ve seen so far. The definition is just the way it should be, and this would make sorting out the importance of article very easy. Kudos ;) Vanderwaalforces (talk) 10:59, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
High = specific pieces of oral tradition, genres of different peoples' traditions like izibongo, roles such as bard, and articles such as Salishan oral narratives
Mid = specific works that used to be predominantly oral but are now predominantly written such as Pali Canon, articles that document an oral tradition or discuss oral tradition in reasonable depth
Low = articles which mention "oral tradition"/"oral literature"/"oral poetry" etc. without discussing in depth
Thank you, we have been in close contact with that WP and some members have joined. We could copy the format of their main page? Kowal2701 (talk) 11:05, 31 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Possible move to a WikiProject?
Is it worth having a discussion about moving this to its own WikiProject? Out of the 150 so articles currently tagged, practically none of them had the {{WikiProject Anthropology}} banner priorly, and we're sort of bloating their categories with articles outside of their scope. We've also got a lot of members, the recommended number is 6 to 12 per Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Guide. It's just about whether this project would be sustainable Kowal2701 (talk) 14:27, 18 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Tagging's done (had to cast a very large net in order to catch all the relevant articles as the categories like Category:Oral tradition are far from complete, I'm unsure whether to tag pages including the text "oral history" as there are loads that are obviously not within the scope). Assessment to do now if anyone wants to help? No worries if not, I'm happy to do it Kowal2701 (talk) 20:40, 14 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fulesta
Hey guys, I've submitted the draft for the article Fulesta, which I translated from the Italian. It's been a few weeks now, have a look and see how we can make it more likely to be accepted when/if you get a chance, thank you! Pincermitosis (talk) 11:24, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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